I'm not sure if you went to a prison or jail. Its possible you ended up in whats commonly known as a "white collar prison", which might make my question lame, but...
I'm curious about how your time was spent during your years behind bars. Did you take to reading to pass the time? Pick up crafts or lift weights?
I'm also curious about relationships you might have made. I think we are all familiar with the common inmates profile - some career criminals, some violent, some drug related - in *general*, poor and uneducated americans. I don't know what sort of background/upbringing you had, but i wonder if you had trouble making connections to people within the system, and in the connections you made - did you find it difficult to explain exactly why you were there? Did you get any respect for your talents in the computer field?
but, i would argue that the usa (as i assume thats whom your speaking of) is infact not imperialistic, my evidance to support this theory is the rather obvious lack of territorial gain since its inception (this is of course setting aside the indian/mexican points).
some of my friends would argue that the "take-overs" are economic and political and that it is in this way that we bully other countries into a posture which is to our liking (or friendly because they have no choice).
my arguement to this usually starts by pointing out that we dont collect taxes from countries which they might point to as examples, and from there i would point to examples of wars in which we "won" but didnt take territory.
Its always a heated debate, and much to long and complex to dig too far into here - but i do think i have a interesting point to make of this which does reach back to the topic.
Very few games have i seen where political *unity* is a frequent solution (by solution i mean end game). Alpha Centari (a great game, and runs on linux) allows for successful completion by unity but i believe i've only come to that end a couple times.
Usually one wins by oblitherating all enemies, and maintaining strategic control of allies (weather by resources or otherwise). Granted, within the context of a *game* the strategic and tactical portions tend to feed the entertainment.
Ah crap... i lost my train of thought, damn.
well - i suppose i've said enough already - i'll just end with:
Fool, your use of the word successful doesn't include its criteria.
This project created a "Successful Program", it *program* is not attempting to be a "Successful Company".
You need to think of programs as poems, there are both good and bad poems. The objective of these poems is to deliver a particular message or concept (functionality), and if the poem does this, and does it well - it is a success. The best poems known to humanity made very little money (for the writer).
great idea - lets circumvent the right to bare arms.
I dont even own a gun (cept for a early 20th century relic), and have only fire them on a couple dozen occations. but come on, i would not have even been able to do that without purchasing one.
I don't have any - and I didn't take any time to look into who you are before I asked this question. I currently have one project I'm working on which I have released under the GPL and I have several projects more which I intend to do the same thing with (but im holding off till they are a little more finished before I do) - but my projects don't pay the rent, and so althou im looking to use my own code to profit in services in the future, my workload puts me in a situation where i just dont have time to push my "brainchildren".
Mabye it is that your living arangements were fertile soil for NetSaint, or perhaps you were in a position to put all of your-out-of work hours into it? Did an early embrace from the community help give it momentum?
I'm sorry - i dont even know if your the original author or inherited it.
This would be overkill in the situations im talking about. I believe a simpler example would better illistrate what i meant.
I have a perl routine which i use in many many scripts i've written, its called file_to_array, and im fairly certain you can ascertain its function.
I'm not going to be using libs for something like this. This is just one *example* of where i could see the usefulness of a program like fvs - for those small programs which use specific user defined functions.
overall the benifit of something like 'fvc' would be truly harnessed by programmers that find them selves always writing little programs and scripts for which they tend to resuse stuff they've already written.
Being that CVS is OSS, perhaps someday i'll get the time to use it to write such a program.
it uses bitkeeper now - but afaik, it used CVS up until ~2001.
I could be wrong - im excepting corrections =)
But even if it did use bitkeeper the whole time - the functionality behind bitkeeper is essentialy the same as CVS - it maintains and assists in the process, allowing hundreds, if not thousands, of developers to work on one project while all staying on the same page.
This was my point - that version control programs is the "improvement" that earnest_deyoung asked about.
I've been using CVS for some time now - even bought a _great_book_ to assist me in understanding it better.
I was recently discussing this sort of thing with some friends and got into what I would love to start as a project - something to the effect of "fvs" or function versioning system - which would allow me to keep tabs on "just-a-box" functions which i use throughout my programs.
I think any programmer who sees the benifts of CVS would understand where im going with this concept. We all have functions we use again and again - and realizing that there is a potential flaw in a given function at one point is always followed by exasperation because one realizes that the function needs to be changes in X number of programs.
Lets just stop calling this "voting" and start calling it scoring - "MIT gets paid to score for Dolby!".
Whats even worst is that they took them to _court_ over it - am i the only one that things this is disgusting? what the fuck is the point? where are we headed if we can clearly, publicly buy off votes and even bring people to court when the bribe isint paid?
I read the lyrics for the song and my reaction was "huh?", perhaps the song makes exclusive reference to OpenBSD so much that you would have to be familiar with it to get it?
from slashdot - or perhaps i saw it somewhere else - but being that everyone is asking where the linux song is, i thought you all might find this... funny
to hear the voice of god: cat/vmlinuz &>/dev/audio
Slashdot Mirror
How often are the other 95% crashing?
34% of statistics are false
I'm not sure if you went to a prison or jail. Its possible you ended up in whats commonly known as a "white collar prison", which might make my question lame, but...
I'm curious about how your time was spent during your years behind bars. Did you take to reading to pass the time? Pick up crafts or lift weights?
I'm also curious about relationships you might have made. I think we are all familiar with the common inmates profile - some career criminals, some violent, some drug related - in *general*, poor and uneducated americans. I don't know what sort of background/upbringing you had, but i wonder if you had trouble making connections to people within the system, and in the connections you made - did you find it difficult to explain exactly why you were there? Did you get any respect for your talents in the computer field?
i remember when they were a $1 a mb
certainly, ask any roman emperor.
but, i would argue that the usa (as i assume thats whom your speaking of) is infact not imperialistic, my evidance to support this theory is the rather obvious lack of territorial gain since its inception (this is of course setting aside the indian/mexican points).
some of my friends would argue that the "take-overs" are economic and political and that it is in this way that we bully other countries into a posture which is to our liking (or friendly because they have no choice).
my arguement to this usually starts by pointing out that we dont collect taxes from countries which they might point to as examples, and from there i would point to examples of wars in which we "won" but didnt take territory.
Its always a heated debate, and much to long and complex to dig too far into here - but i do think i have a interesting point to make of this which does reach back to the topic.
Very few games have i seen where political *unity* is a frequent solution (by solution i mean end game). Alpha Centari (a great game, and runs on linux) allows for successful completion by unity but i believe i've only come to that end a couple times.
Usually one wins by oblitherating all enemies, and maintaining strategic control of allies (weather by resources or otherwise). Granted, within the context of a *game* the strategic and tactical portions tend to feed the entertainment.
Ah crap... i lost my train of thought, damn.
well - i suppose i've said enough already - i'll just end with:
"I hope Bush isin't a WarCraft fan!"
i realize you're just making sort of an "off-the-cuff" remark/statement, but isolationist and imperialistic are almost complete opposites.
your formula is flawed, we never learn
yea, now he just spanks it to porn
Fool, your use of the word successful doesn't include its criteria.
This project created a "Successful Program", it *program* is not attempting to be a "Successful Company".
You need to think of programs as poems, there are both good and bad poems. The objective of these poems is to deliver a particular message or concept (functionality), and if the poem does this, and does it well - it is a success. The best poems known to humanity made very little money (for the writer).
atheist?
by law enforcement?
great idea - lets circumvent the right to bare arms.
I dont even own a gun (cept for a early 20th century relic), and have only fire them on a couple dozen occations. but come on, i would not have even been able to do that without purchasing one.
I don't have any - and I didn't take any time to look into who you are before I asked this question. I currently have one project I'm working on which I have released under the GPL and I have several projects more which I intend to do the same thing with (but im holding off till they are a little more finished before I do) - but my projects don't pay the rent, and so althou im looking to use my own code to profit in services in the future, my workload puts me in a situation where i just dont have time to push my "brainchildren".
Mabye it is that your living arangements were fertile soil for NetSaint, or perhaps you were in a position to put all of your-out-of work hours into it? Did an early embrace from the community help give it momentum?
I'm sorry - i dont even know if your the original author or inherited it.
Ah well - back to work
This would be overkill in the situations im talking about. I believe a simpler example would better illistrate what i meant.
I have a perl routine which i use in many many scripts i've written, its called file_to_array, and im fairly certain you can ascertain its function.
I'm not going to be using libs for something like this. This is just one *example* of where i could see the usefulness of a program like fvs - for those small programs which use specific user defined functions.
overall the benifit of something like 'fvc' would be truly harnessed by programmers that find them selves always writing little programs and scripts for which they tend to resuse stuff they've already written.
Being that CVS is OSS, perhaps someday i'll get the time to use it to write such a program.
it uses bitkeeper now - but afaik, it used CVS up until ~2001.
I could be wrong - im excepting corrections =)
But even if it did use bitkeeper the whole time - the functionality behind bitkeeper is essentialy the same as CVS - it maintains and assists in the process, allowing hundreds, if not thousands, of developers to work on one project while all staying on the same page.
This was my point - that version control programs is the "improvement" that earnest_deyoung asked about.
The next big step you can watch for is true AI, and as Jaron Lanier points out in his article ONE HALF OF A MANIFESTO, we're a long way from it.
New programming languages can be clever and sophisiticated - but the next step - regardless of the language, is programs that can write programs.
(mind you im quite sure these programs will use CVS!)
I've been using CVS for some time now - even bought a _great_book_ to assist me in understanding it better.
I was recently discussing this sort of thing with some friends and got into what I would love to start as a project - something to the effect of "fvs" or function versioning system - which would allow me to keep tabs on "just-a-box" functions which i use throughout my programs.
I think any programmer who sees the benifts of CVS would understand where im going with this concept. We all have functions we use again and again - and realizing that there is a potential flaw in a given function at one point is always followed by exasperation because one realizes that the function needs to be changes in X number of programs.
Programs that assist programmers in the development process by handling who changes what when, etc - are - IMHO - a huge improvement.
I seriously doubt that a program like Linux could flourish without programs like CVS.
furthermore - many of the programs that do this sort of thing can be used for any programming language... you could even use it for simple documents.
as slashdotted as it would seem they have specifically restricted the number of possible accesses.
I've always see the slashdot effect as literally bringing a system to its knees, here we're just being turned away at the door.
Lets just stop calling this "voting" and start calling it scoring - "MIT gets paid to score for Dolby!".
Whats even worst is that they took them to _court_ over it - am i the only one that things this is disgusting? what the fuck is the point? where are we headed if we can clearly, publicly buy off votes and even bring people to court when the bribe isint paid?
I read the lyrics for the song and my reaction was "huh?", perhaps the song makes exclusive reference to OpenBSD so much that you would have to be familiar with it to get it?
from slashdot - or perhaps i saw it somewhere else - but being that everyone is asking where the linux song is, i thought you all might find this... funny
/vmlinuz &> /dev/audio
to hear the voice of god:
cat
eventually, according to Gate's Law, you'll need a Dual 3Ghz with thousands of megs in RAM just to run a word processor.
wow, bad programming would _REALLY_ cost you!
there goes the wintendo TCO
My 30th birthday was the night before - i got so muckin tanked that i slept right through thursday.
Pisses me off that i missed it, but i will be looking to attend the next one for sure.
Anyone have the skinny on the Rochester, N.Y. meeting?
he's just in it - making a buck.
this article at salon.com sheds some like on arnolds perspective, and his relationship to the movie.
im no huge arnold fan - but katz shouldnt dump on arnold for being *in* a movie
whats the directors name katz? who did the casting? did you know harrison ford was supposed to play the part?