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Ellen Feiss Interview

An anonymous reader writes "The Wait is over! Ellen Feiss's interview is up! And she really was on drugs, (well, allergy meds.)" She's, like, going to be traumatized about this forever, like.

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  1. Damn right she's traumatised! by Dr+Thrustgood · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hell, the server's been slashdotted within minutes of posting! How much more pain can you take?

    1. Re:Damn right she's traumatised! by m4ik · · Score: 1

      Damn. And this was an article I really wanted to read.

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    2. Re:Damn right she's traumatised! by operagost · · Score: 5, Funny
      HTTP Error 403 403.9 Access Forbidden: Too many users are connected This error can be caused if the Web server is busy and cannot process your request due to heavy traffic. Please try to connect again later.
      It was like, errrragh! They should run it on a Mac!
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    3. Re:Damn right she's traumatised! by hatchet · · Score: 1

      How much more pain can we take? Well... what doesn't kill you, makes you stronger.

    4. Re:Damn right she's traumatised! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She even interviews like she's stoned. She must keep Benadryl in business all on her own.

    5. Re:Damn right she's traumatised! by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      I knew this link would be on Slashdot even before I looked; other sites were mentioning that the server was swamped. It's probably on Fark.com, too, and that's another type of DoS.

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    6. Re:Damn right she's traumatised! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God, I hope you never have kids.

      "I don't understand the way you kids talk these days! You're all on drugs!"

    7. Re:Damn right she's traumatised! by martyn+s · · Score: 1

      It's not slashdotted, it's just blocking slashdot referalls or whatever you call it. Just open up another window and copy the link into there.

  2. Maybe a Brown student by mithras+the+prophet · · Score: 4, Funny

    can type in the article from the 'paper paper', since that will probably be faster than waiting for this server to recover?

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  3. Slashdotted already! by Wedge1024 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    mirrors anyone?

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    1. Re:Slashdotted already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The apple of apple's eye: ellen feiss
      her pc crashed, she made the switch, and now she's famous. meet the internet's latest it girl.

      By Zachary Frechette

      Ellen Feiss is a lot like most 15-year-olds, with one notable exception: Some guy in Holland is wearing a T-shirt with her face on it right now. Actually, a lot of people are wearing that shirt with her picture or drinking coffee from a similarly themed mug purchased on one of Ellen's numerous fan sites. After appearing in a "Switch" ad for Apple computer (www.apple.com/switch/ads), Feiss quickly became an Internet celebrity, spawning stories in newspapers from coast to coast and sparking discussion in chat rooms across the world. There was even a look-alike contest held outside Amsterdam, although most of the entrants were men. Some have argued she seems a bit too, um, light-headed in her commercial, but that hasn't stopped Leno and Letterman from trying to book her (actually, it probably helped). As a sophomore in high school, Ellen still isn't quite sure what to make of her 15 minutes, but between meetings with her agent and MTV executives, she took some time to answer questions for Post-.

      How did you get involved with the Apple switch campaign in the first place?

      It's kind of a funny story. I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.

      Is the story you told true?

      Oh yeah, it's definitely true.

      What was the paper about?

      It was about Chinatown, and the formation of Chinatowns in America. I lost like three pages of it; it was terrible. It was a really, really good paper.

      Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?

      I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.

      What was the initial response of your friends and family to the commercial?

      They all freaked out. I called my dad while I was at the set because I had to get him to say that he was my guardian and it was OK for me to do it, and he didn't believe me that I was going to do it. So they all freaked out when they found out I got the ad.

      Did you get a lot of phone calls after it aired?
      Yeah, a lot of old camp friends, actually.

      When did you start getting the sense you were becoming a celebrity beyond the commercial itself?

      I was on vacation in Arizona this summer, and when I left everything was fine. It was kind of like, "Oh this is cool, I'm in a commercial," but that's it. And so we left. When we get back two weeks later, it's like a bombard, it was so big. I have like 20 messages on the answering machine from different people telling me about this, random people like people who work with my parents and all these other people. I get back and I'm in The New York Times, and I'm in the L.A. Times, and Letterman wants me on his show, Leno wants me on his show. I'm like, "I just got back from vacation!" It's funny because I get back, and the New York Times is like, "Ellen is unreachable for comment because she's supposedly on vacation," and I was like, "How do they even know this?" It was really kind of scary, actually, a little overwhelming at first.

      So do you have any interest in doing Leno or Letterman?

      I was offered to, but I decided not to because I thought it wouldn't be so much "Who are you, Ellen Feiss?" It would be more like, "Are you a stoner?" blah blah blah. I did get other offers besides that that I'm getting into. MTV wants to talk to me. They're doing a pilot on me. The guy's going to come to my house in two weeks and interview me, and then show it to the CEO of MTV. I got a lot of crazy offers. I thought if I went on Letterman, it would be like I go on Letterman, and then I go on "Regis and Kelly," and then I go on Channel 5 News, and then it would kind of fizzle out pathetically. MTV's a little cooler.

      Any idea what the MTV show would be about?

      No, he has no idea. He just said he liked the ads and said I was a cute kid.

      Do you think this has the potential to jump-start a career in entertainment?

      I don't know. I also got a call from the Farrelly Brothers. They were like, "You know we really like your ad," so they wrote down my name or something. I have an agent now. This guy writes me down -- the producer of all the Farrelly brothers movies -- and he's like this kid is whatever whatever, this ad is pretty funny, so he writes my name down and he's trying to get in contact with my agent. Since I didn't have an agent at that point ... well it's a kind of confusing story, but anyway, they wanted me to be in one of their movies, but since they found out how old I was they don't think I can be in one. Supposedly, though, my agent is "floating my image," quote unquote. I don't know what the hell that means.

      So have you made a bunch of new friends at school?

      No, it isn't that weird. I get a lot of really obvious comments from people like "Did you know that there are mugs with your face on them?" and I'm like, "No I didn't; why don't you tell me about that?" Just comments like that. It's like, "Thanks for telling me about that."

      Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?

      Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives. I don't know, it was kind of bizarre at first. I went to my Web site but I decided not to read any of the comments because I thought it would be too weird. I heard about some of them, though, so I was like, "Weeell, I'm not going to read those."

      Did you hear about the look-alike contest in Holland?

      I did! I saw the pictures, too. It was really funny.

      Did you have a favorite picture?

      The toothless old man was hands down the best, but no one actually looked anything like me.

      Has Apple tried to contact you since all this happened?

      They contacted me to supposedly advise me. They were like, "We don't really want you to take this anywhere," but I decided to get an agent anyway. I went to Macworld in July. It seems like the kind of thing where if you're not in the biz .... I thought it was the most boring thing. I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld." I met Steve Jobs. He called me by my first name -- clever, huh? It was brief.

      Do you have a favorite switch ad besides your own?

      Probably Hamilton, just because I know him, and I saw him make it. It was so funny. Me and Hamilton have decided that our new nemesis is Jeremiah Cohick. He's our age, and he's trying to steal our limelight! We decided we don't like him. We're out to get him.

      Does it bother you at all that some of your fame might be related to your perceived state of sobriety in the commercial?

      It doesn't really bother me. I do admit to looking pretty out of it in that commercial -- I think I look horrible. It was after school, but I was the last person to make the commercial, so by the time I made it it was like 10, so I was really tired. The funny thing was, I was on drugs! I was on Benedryl, my allergy medication, so I was really out of it anyway. That's why my eyes were all red, because I have seasonal allergies. But no one believes me.

      Do you feel any connection to the Dell dude?

      No, none whatsoever. That guy's a doofus. I get a lot of "What if you guys had kids?" And I'm like, "What if we had kids?" Why would you ask that? What a weird question. They'd probably be blond.

      zach frechette '04 forgot to ask if ellen knows janie porche's phone number.

    2. Re:Slashdotted already! by T.E.D. · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      her pc crashed, she made the switch, and now she's famous. meet the internet's latest it girl.


      Apparently, her Mac isn't doing much better.
    3. Re:Slashdotted already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, that's not a mirror, that's just the water in the bowl!

    4. Re:Slashdotted already! by Kenshin · · Score: 3, Insightful
      "I lost like three pages of it; it was terrible. It was a really, really good paper.

      Something tells me her teacher didn't buy the excuse, and she's obsessing over it...

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    5. Re:Slashdotted already! by dswan69 · · Score: 1

      Apparently, her Mac isn't doing much better.

      What a surprise. My Mac crashes far more often than my PC.

    6. Re:Slashdotted already! by boy_afraid · · Score: 1

      I bet her paper read like this:

      People is China, like, have really really, like, ucky hair, and, like, are kinda short too, huh?

    7. Re:Slashdotted already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because, despite all the things a mac can do, there are some it can't. And if you look at the instructions it specificaly says

      "Not to be used as auto-pilot for a moving vehicle"

      See. If you payed attention to the instructions you wouldn't have any crashes.

    8. Re:Slashdotted already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And appaerntly you don't know what you're talking about.

    9. Re:Slashdotted already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did she really sound that unintelligent to you? Man, I hope you don't have a teenager at your house.

    10. Re:Slashdotted already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They later fixed this to more accurately reflect the state of the system:

      "Not to be used"

    11. Re:Slashdotted already! by khuber · · Score: 1
      She actually sounded rather intelligent to me. I was surprised.

      -Kevin

    12. Re:Slashdotted already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Upgrade to OS X. You won't have this problem anymore.

    13. Re:Slashdotted already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. Not only intelligent, but also mature.

      You have to be able to see through the "likes" and other staples of being a teenager of course.

    14. Re:Slashdotted already! by boy_afraid · · Score: 1

      She sounded soooooo unintelligent. I never used "like" at all. No, I do not have ANY children. I do have a teenage niece who is very intelligent.

  4. wow /.'ed already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seems this interview has already been slashdotted. It was like a server. And then it went beep. beep. beep. And all the webpage was gone. It was a really good server too.

    1. Re:wow /.'ed already by forgoil · · Score: 3, Funny

      They should have switched to a better server ;))

    2. Re:wow /.'ed already by McCart42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It was... ... ...a bummer.

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    3. Re:wow /.'ed already by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      You mean they weren't using an XServe?
      BTW, it looks more like a user limit than a true /.ing, so if you reload often you might get in to the page.

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    4. Re:wow /.'ed already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It might have been a really good server, just running really bad software

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      [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Too many client tasks. /post/stories.asp, line 21

    5. Re:wow /.'ed already by Lars+T. · · Score: 2
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    6. Re:wow /.'ed already by Tassleman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, that's fine, I'll just hit Refresh over and over and over again, that should help.

    7. Re:wow /.'ed already by s.a.m · · Score: 1

      Ellen: "So I like took this pregnancy test and it was like *beep* *beep* *beep*!"
      Dell Dude: "Dude, you're getting an abortion!"

    8. Re:wow /.'ed already by the+Man+in+Black · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on mods. That's fucking FUNNY.

    9. Re:wow /.'ed already by Hermanetta · · Score: 1

      this is funny

      you gave (#4731273) funny, but not this one?

    10. Re:wow /.'ed already by Myco · · Score: 2

      I am so with you on this one. And this is coming from the guy who came up with that thing about a spider clinging on for dear life as you pull silk out of its ass. Um, it was on another recent Apple story on /. Too lazy to go get the link -- funny how lazy I am about that kind of thing since numeric Karma went away.

    11. Re:wow /.'ed already by stux · · Score: 2

      That was damn funny :)

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    12. Re:wow /.'ed already by Myco · · Score: 2

      Thanks. I'm still basking in the warming glow of adulation.

  5. Gotta be a record... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not a single comment already and the site is /.ed.

  6. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    That site was, like, kinda totally slashdotted before anyone had posted a reaply, like /penhead

  7. Wow. by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Slashdotted already... *beep beep beep*

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  8. Give me karma by BinBoy · · Score: 4, Informative

    the apple of apple's eye: ellen feiss

    her pc crashed, she made the switch, and now she's famous. meet the internet's latest it girl.

    By Zachary Frechette

    Ellen Feiss is a lot like most 15-year-olds, with one notable exception: Some guy in Holland is wearing a T-shirt with her face on it right now. Actually, a lot of people are wearing that shirt with her picture or drinking coffee from a similarly themed mug purchased on one of Ellen's numerous fan sites. After appearing in a "Switch" ad for Apple computer (www.apple.com/switch/ads), Feiss quickly became an Internet celebrity, spawning stories in newspapers from coast to coast and sparking discussion in chat rooms across the world. There was even a look-alike contest held outside Amsterdam, although most of the entrants were men. Some have argued she seems a bit too, um, light-headed in her commercial, but that hasn't stopped Leno and Letterman from trying to book her (actually, it probably helped). As a sophomore in high school, Ellen still isn't quite sure what to make of her 15 minutes, but between meetings with her agent and MTV executives, she took some time to answer questions for Post-.

    How did you get involved with the Apple switch campaign in the first place?
    It's kind of a funny story. I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.

    Is the story you told true?
    Oh yeah, it's definitely true.

    What was the paper about?
    It was about Chinatown, and the formation of Chinatowns in America. I lost like three pages of it; it was terrible. It was a really, really good paper.

    Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?
    I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.

    What was the initial response of your friends and family to the commercial?
    They all freaked out. I called my dad while I was at the set because I had to get him to say that he was my guardian and it was OK for me to do it, and he didn't believe me that I was going to do it. So they all freaked out when they found out I got the ad.

    Did you get a lot of phone calls after it aired?
    Yeah, a lot of old camp friends, actually.

    When did you start getting the sense you were becoming a celebrity beyond the commercial itself?
    I was on vacation in Arizona this summer, and when I left everything was fine. It was kind of like, "Oh this is cool, I'm in a commercial," but that's it. And so we left. When we get back two weeks later, it's like a bombard, it was so big. I have like 20 messages on the answering machine from different people telling me about this, random people like people who work with my parents and all these other people. I get back and I'm in The New York Times, and I'm in the L.A. Times, and Letterman wants me on his show, Leno wants me on his show. I'm like, "I just got back from vacation!" It's funny because I get back, and the New York Times is like, "Ellen is unreachable for comment because she's supposedly on vacation," and I was like, "How do they even know this?" It was really kind of scary, actually, a little overwhelming at first.

    So do you have any interest in doing Leno or Letterman?
    I was offered to, but I decided not to because I thought it wouldn't be so much "Who are you, Ellen Feiss?" It would be more like, "Are you a stoner?" blah blah blah. I did get other offers besides that that I'm getting into. MTV wants to talk to me. They're doing a pilot on me. The guy's going to come to my house in two weeks and interview me, and then show it to the CEO of MTV. I got a lot of crazy offers. I thought if I went on Letterman, it would be like I go on Letterman, and then I go on "Regis and Kelly," and then I go on Channel 5 News, and then it would kind of fizzle out pathetically. MTV's a little cooler.

    Any idea what the MTV show would be about?
    No, he has no idea. He just said he liked the ads and said I was a cute kid.

    Do you think this has the potential to jump-start a career in entertainment?
    I don't know. I also got a call from the Farrelly Brothers. They were like, "You know we really like your ad," so they wrote down my name or something. I have an agent now. This guy writes me down -- the producer of all the Farrelly brothers movies -- and he's like this kid is whatever whatever, this ad is pretty funny, so he writes my name down and he's trying to get in contact with my agent. Since I didn't have an agent at that point ... well it's a kind of confusing story, but anyway, they wanted me to be in one of their movies, but since they found out how old I was they don't think I can be in one. Supposedly, though, my agent is "floating my image," quote unquote. I don't know what the hell that means.

    So have you made a bunch of new friends at school?
    No, it isn't that weird. I get a lot of really obvious comments from people like "Did you know that there are mugs with your face on them?" and I'm like, "No I didn't; why don't you tell me about that?" Just comments like that. It's like, "Thanks for telling me about that."

    Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?
    Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives. I don't know, it was kind of bizarre at first. I went to my Web site but I decided not to read any of the comments because I thought it would be too weird. I heard about some of them, though, so I was like, "Weeell, I'm not going to read those."

    Did you hear about the look-alike contest in Holland?
    I did! I saw the pictures, too. It was really funny.

    Did you have a favorite picture?
    The toothless old man was hands down the best, but no one actually looked anything like me.

    Has Apple tried to contact you since all this happened?
    They contacted me to supposedly advise me. They were like, "We don't really want you to take this anywhere," but I decided to get an agent anyway. I went to Macworld in July. It seems like the kind of thing where if you're not in the biz .... I thought it was the most boring thing. I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld." I met Steve Jobs. He called me by my first name -- clever, huh? It was brief.

    Do you have a favorite switch ad besides your own?
    Probably Hamilton, just because I know him, and I saw him make it. It was so funny. Me and Hamilton have decided that our new nemesis is Jeremiah Cohick. He's our age, and he's trying to steal our limelight! We decided we don't like him. We're out to get him.

    Does it bother you at all that some of your fame might be related to your perceived state of sobriety in the commercial?
    It doesn't really bother me. I do admit to looking pretty out of it in that commercial -- I think I look horrible. It was after school, but I was the last person to make the commercial, so by the time I made it it was like 10, so I was really tired. The funny thing was, I was on drugs! I was on Benedryl, my allergy medication, so I was really out of it anyway. That's why my eyes were all red, because I have seasonal allergies. But no one believes me.

    Do you feel any connection to the Dell dude?
    No, none whatsoever. That guy's a doofus. I get a lot of "What if you guys had kids?" And I'm like, "What if we had kids?" Why would you ask that? What a weird question. They'd probably be blond.

    1. Re:Give me karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think maybe she enjoys using the word 'like'? damn..

    2. Re:Give me karma by Peyna · · Score: 1, Funny

      In the year 2000:

      What if Ellen Feiss and the Dell Dude mated?

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    3. Re:Give me karma by alta · · Score: 2, Funny

      No crap, put "like" in your google bar and hit highlight. It's scary!

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    4. Re:Give me karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh ye gods that would be scary..

      Poses an interesting question:

      Would the child(if one could call it that) run PC x86 or Mac OS 10.2?

      eww... shudders

    5. Re:Give me karma by hype7 · · Score: 5, Funny
      What if Ellen Feiss and the Dell Dude mated?


      Seems like you're not the first to ask this. From the interview, and I quote:
      "What a weird question. They'd probably be blond."

      -- james
    6. Re:Give me karma by Jaysyn · · Score: 1

      It would be illegal in most states? I'm pretty sure the Dell dude is over 18. Could be wrong...

      Jaysyn

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    7. Re:Give me karma by rherbert · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's a reference to Conan O'Brien's "In the Year 2000" segments where they photochop people's pictures to make some hideous rendition.

      Actually, I don't know if that's part of the ITY2k segment or not... But anyway, it's a reference to Conan O'Brien.

    8. Re:Give me karma by byolinux · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Dude, you're getting a CELL!" ?

    9. Re:Give me karma by teeker · · Score: 5, Funny

      I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld."

      That's how everybody feels at Macworld, sweetheart...

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    10. Re:Give me karma by dinkum · · Score: 1

      That was, like, too scary. Like.

      It is amazing how things can take off for no reason.

    11. Re:Give me karma by echeslack · · Score: 1

      actually, its just a segment called "what if they mated"

    12. Re:Give me karma by Peyna · · Score: 2

      It was a combination of the 2 segments where they do "In the Year 2000" predictions with guests on the show (even though it's 2002), and they also do "If they mated" which is what you mentioned.

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    13. Re:Give me karma by checkyoulater · · Score: 1

      What if Ellen Feiss and the Dell Dude mated?

      I believe the movie is already in the works.

      Dude...

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    14. Re:Give me karma by leecho · · Score: 0

      Even in this interview, she like... she like talks like, like, like, like like... every single like word is like... intermixed like, with like...and stuff...like...and it's like...a bummer.

    15. Re:Give me karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      highlight? What is this highlight button you speak of?

      I really don't have it on mine... ? Does it work in Linux, or is this an explorer extension? Or I could be brain dead. Which is why this post will be AC... ;)

    16. Re:Give me karma by FireballFreddy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ellen: "So I like took this pregnancy test and it was like *beep* *beep* *beep*!"

      Dell Dude: "Dude, you're getting an abortion!"

      -FF

      (Going to hell for that one...)

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    17. Re:Give me karma by xmutex · · Score: 1

      Wow! Error Morris directed all of those ads.. I had no idea. That's cool.

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    18. Re:Give me karma by RubiX^3 · · Score: 1

      on the google bar:
      starting from the left there is a google button,
      a search form,
      a "Search Web" button,
      a "Search Site" button,
      a "New!" button,
      a page rank "scale",
      a page info button,
      an "up" button (parent dir),
      and finally the "Highlight" button.

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    19. Re:Give me karma by statichead · · Score: 1

      risc based dells?

    20. Re:Give me karma by bsharitt · · Score: 1

      Like, what do you say?

    21. Re:Give me karma by superyooser · · Score: 2, Funny

      it's like, a bummer :-)

    22. Re:Give me karma by Kong+the+Medium · · Score: 1

      Maybe i've got another googlebar on my Mozilla, but a "NEW!" button isn't there. The "Search Site" is followed by a 4-leaf clover for "I'm feeling lucky".

      The "up" button is followd by the search terms. Is this the Highlight function?

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      ... whenever a text is transmitted, variation occurs. This is because human beings are careless, fallible, and occasiona
    23. Re:Give me karma by Polo · · Score: 2

      I think these moderation totals on this post are almost (but not quite) as funny as the article...

      I've never seen a total of 28

    24. Re:Give me karma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      g'damn!

    25. Re:Give me karma by jimbolaya · · Score: 2

      Any true switcher would never get near the Dell dude.

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    26. Re:Give me karma by wirelessbuzzers · · Score: 1

      I've never seen a total of 28

      Did you see The Post?

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  9. Enlightenment, anyone? by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Since the server seems to be slashdotted there's not much chance of me educating myself on who she is...

    Anyone care to enlighten me?

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    1. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Arker · · Score: 5, Informative

      Go here to see her ad and you can make your own decisions. Warning - if you have a soft place in your heart for cute goofy stoner chicks you just might become obsessed. :)

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    2. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quicktime ads on Apple's site about 'normal' people who "switched to Apple (from Windows/PC inferred) because the PC crashed and I lost the document" and other equally implausable reasons.

      You weren't really unenlightened or uneducated at all ;)

    3. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by peter_gzowski · · Score: 3, Informative

      From your comment title I thought you were advocating a switch of your own... Anyway, Ellen Fiess is a girl who made a commercial as part of Apple's switch campain, where real people (some famous, some not) talk about why Windows sucks (which is kind of like talking about why water is wet), and why Macs rock. She happened to be to have a stoney disposition in the commercial, though, which sets her apart from the other commercials. Now she's the main obsession of Mac enthusiasts.

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    4. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by The+Original+Yama · · Score: 2
      Warning - if you have a soft place in your heart for cute goofy stoner chicks you just might become obsessed.
      According to Ellen, "These people don't have lives." That was the funniest part of the interview. It reminds me of Bill Shatner telling fans to "get a life" (I think it was on Saturday Night Live).
    5. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i wish i had read your warning first, it needs to be modded up much much higher. oh well, another wasted friday. cant wait til my ellen shirt and mug arrive in the mail.

    6. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 2

      Thanks for the info everyone :)

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    7. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Tet · · Score: 2, Troll
      Go here to see her ad and you can make your own decisions.

      Oh. At least I can now see what she looks like, even if I can't watch the ad (pesky Quicktime). Yes, I know I could theoretically use some mix of Wine and the appropriate Windows DLLs, but to be honest, I can't be bothered. I haven't yet found anything in Quicktime that was sufficiently worthwhile to motivate me to waste enough time to get it working. It's much easier to just do without...

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    8. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Kierthos · · Score: 1

      I'd have to go there to see it. I have never seen that particular ad on TV... seen the De La Soul one several times, and it seems I can't escape the Yo-Yo Ma one....

      Kierthos

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    9. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Walterk · · Score: 1

      Try the crossover demo, and just hit pause when you get that nagscreen :)

      Smooth like a shaven peach.

    10. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Arker · · Score: 2

      Gack, no Sorenson for linux, I forgot that (I'm on a Mac currently.) That's annoying. I wonder if Apple would sick their lawyers on someone for converting them to .mpegs and making them available that way. Technically a copyright violation, but it would be one that helps, rather than hurts, the copyright holder...

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    11. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by merlin_jim · · Score: 5, Funny

      Warning - if you have a soft place in your heart for cute goofy stoner chicks

      Doesn't everyone have a soft place for cute goofy stoner chicks?

      I just assumed that was a universal maxim, like how art on sci-fi magazines and novels has nothing to do with the stories to be found inside, or how mice, no matter how optical, self cleaning, nanotech, will always need to be cleaned at the crucial moment of the game winning frag...

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    12. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1

      Well, for what it's worth I couldn't convince myself to buy a Mac until I saw that stoned out droning goofy stoner chick in an ad and then immortalized on fark.com. :-) Now I have a lovely iBook to play with and it actually, amazingly, is quite useful and stable. OS X is pretty nice but waiting for fink to compile and install many of my open source apps on a G3-800mhz processor is a killer. ;-)

    13. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by bsharitt · · Score: 1

      So these ads actually do work. Although, I don't think this is how Apple intended for them to work.

    14. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by BigBir3d · · Score: 2

      rather than hitting pause, grab the quicktime window and move it to the other side of the screen. the nag screen doesn't follow!

      doesn't work for bigger stuff, but the embedded small stuff it is perfect.

    15. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      side note: 90% of those who use a Mac (not for the unix side of it) are complete morons.

      that makes sense since 90% of the population are complete morons...

    16. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that makes sense since 90% of the population are complete morons...

      Leaving only 10% to be incomplete morons? I'm not entirely convinced by your statistics.

    17. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Arker · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://apple.com/switch/ads/momokokikuchi.html

      Mmmm yummy. Not sure I agree she's MUCH cuter than Ellen, but she's definately quite scrumptuous in her own right.

      I usually feel cheated after reading a troll, but that little nugget made it worthwhile. Thanks.

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    18. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Dahan · · Score: 2
    19. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Arker · · Score: 2

      Woot! You probably should post that as a reply to the parent of my post though, he was the one that could use it.

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    20. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even the goatse man did an ad. Everybody loves Apple Computers.

    21. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry, Quicktime will soon be known as mp4, Apple already stream stuff in mp4 and QT, obviously its the way forward.

    22. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geez, I hope your under 18 years old, at the most. Otherwise, your just another PC using, mac bashing, porn trolling pedophile loser.

    23. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by Doug+Neal · · Score: 1

      Ah, but MPlayer uses WINE to play SVQ3, so it's no good to "Arker", who's using Linux on a Mac, as WINE needs you to be on an x86...

    24. Re:Enlightenment, anyone? by freaq · · Score: 1

      yes, it was SNL. they were doing a spoof of the Horta episode.

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  10. And it was a really good website too... by ellem · · Score: 1, Redundant

    But I just tried to login and my computer went beep beep beep beep and like everything was gone. And I was like, "Duh." And so I had write new HTML but I had to rush so it wasn't as good. And it was a really good website too...

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    1. Re:And it was a really good website too... by Zeddicus_Z · · Score: 2

      ...Bummer...

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    2. Re:And it was a really good website too... by stevey · · Score: 1
  11. Because... by BoomerSooner · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was on the Mac sites first. All the mac people beat you there.

    Posted Nov 22 3:20 AM

    Keep up or get left behind.

    1. Re:Because... by hype7 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      don't get me started!
      2002-11-22 10:31:22 First ever Ellen Feiss interview (articles,humor) (rejected)
    2. Re:Because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That pic is always good for a laugh!

      RU?

    3. Re:Because... by mark_lybarger · · Score: 1

      all four of them?

    4. Re:Because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every time I see your sig I click on the link...too funny.

  12. Who? by mikeymckay · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:Who? by ehiris · · Score: 3, Funny

      And quicktime like, crashed my Intel PC. Safety through tight control is bad and that's what Apple is all about.

    2. Re:Who? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And, like, your operating system would have nothing at all to do with that. It must be like, all Apple's fault.

      Ass!

    3. Re:Who? by duren686 · · Score: 1

      I'm running Windows XP. I am on my 23rd day of uptime, and the only reason it's that small is because 22 days and a few hours ago, Quicktime froze. Since I restarted, I have been using a bunch of software (including: GTA3, Word, Excel, IE, Outlook Express, Kazaa, Rhinoceros 3D, Photoshop, and some minor non-system-heavy stuff), and it has managed to stay up without a bit of performance loss.

      I've also been using quicktime, but I'm being careful with it. The best way I've found to ensure that Quicktime doesn't crash is to only close your browser window (for embedded video in the browser) after the video has finished playing completely, and to not use the standalone player at all.

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    4. Re:Who? by mabinogi · · Score: 1

      If you need to reboot, it's the operating system's fault.

      When an application crashes or freezes, you should be able to kill it off without affecting anything else. If that's not the case, then either your shell (which is usually explorer, which MS considers to be part of the OS) has problems, or your OS has problems.

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  13. Right... by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 4, Funny

    An anonymous reader writes "The Wait is over! Ellen Feiss's interview is up! And she really was on drugs, (well, allergy meds.)" She's, like, going to be traumatized about this forever, like.

    This is Slashdot. Now that the server is down, the wait is just beginning...

    Oh wait, it's still (sluggishly) responding. I'll repost it (somewhat) anonymously.

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  14. I'm a little disappointed... by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...That they weren't real switchers.

    I am also amused that they were able to pick people at random from their friends, and say "Tell us a windows PC horror story" and then that somehow equalled a series of TV commercials...

    What does that tell you?

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    1. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by SubtleNuance · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...you mean, that the the advertisment DIDNT use real people telling real stories ?! My god, they should fire all those advertising types because they mislead people...

      Hello? McFly?

    2. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, they were real switchers. If you read the article (when it's recovered from the nasty /.ing) Ellen says her story in the ad is completely true.

    3. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Huge+Pi+Removal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But she says in the article, it was a true story...

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    4. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Isle · · Score: 1

      Dpn't you think Apple would sue her if she broke her contract and said it was something she made up?

    5. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by sg3000 · · Score: 2, Offtopic

      > But she says in the article, it was a true story...

      Whoop! whoops! whoops!

      I was moderating this article, and I originally choose your comment as "insightful", but somehow this changed to "overrated" when I used my scroll wheel to move down the article. I didn't notice this until I got the confirmation. Sorry, if this hurt your karma! Don't worry, I'll get mine when someone metamoderates me as "unfair".

      Hopefully, when I post this message, slashdot will remove the points I awarded to this article, and your comment will be back to normal.

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    6. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Huge+Pi+Removal · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      It's annoying that, I've nearly made the same mistake several times. Don't worry, I'm maxed out on karma, and your modding has been undone anyway :)

      Best wishes,

      Oliver.

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    7. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 3, Funny
      That, since its worked so well, we need to do the same thing for Linux?


      Hey, when you can't beat em...

    8. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well its clear Apple tried to mislead us. Look at this url http://www.apple.com/switch/stories/ellenfeiss.htm l . Its a supposed letter ellen feiss wrote to apple explaining her whoas. It is clearly intended to make the viewer thing she is some random person who wrote in and then they picked her for the ad. Why would she write a letter to apple AFTER she made an ad?

    9. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by TomHandy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Have you considered that she wrote a letter for the switch campaign as part of the requirement for BEING in the commercial? All it says is that they probably wanted her to write a letter detailing the same story she described for the ad. Nothing to indicate the story isn't true, nor any reason for it to be.

      -Tom

    10. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...you mean, that the the advertisment DIDNT use real people telling real stories ?!

      Somebody didn't read the article.

    11. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was in a documentary once (or more). One of the Discovery channel type ones. Lets say that it was "based on a true story."

      Then again, I'm from LA and work in special effects. I know what's real and what's not. Easy formula: if you like it, it's not real.

    12. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geez.. some moderators really are on crack. Why mod this down? Don't you have better uses for your mod points?

    13. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that was Damn nice of you!

    14. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scroll wheel, huh? Too confusing for you?
      Maybe you should switch to a Mac; I understand the Mac mouse only has one button...

    15. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It tells me that there are lots of PC horror stories.

    16. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Skiboo · · Score: 1

      I was moderating this comment. And then it went *beep* *beep* *boop*. And my moderation had changed. It was a really good moderation too. It was kindof a ... ... ... ... ... bummer.

    17. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by donutello · · Score: 2

      Hopefully, when I post this message, slashdot will remove the points I awarded to this article, and your comment will be back to normal.


      Don't forget that in Slashdot math, 50 + 1 - 1 = 49

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    18. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by dbrutus · · Score: 2

      Read the article. She was a random friend of the son of the commercial's director looking to scarf free munchies on the set and see what the process of making a commercial is like. It's not like she earned a paycheck from an ad agency who counted the company running the campaign as a client.

    19. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were, like, to!

    20. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      Well, it tells me that Windows PCs suck. What do your Windows horror stories tell you?

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    21. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, what if I like _you_?

      Hmmm.....

    22. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by MalleusEBHC · · Score: 2

      Hey, when you can't beat em...
      ...copy them?

    23. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Don't forget that in Slashdot math, 50 + 1 - 1 = 49

      No, you're just a fucking idiot. Serialize the statements and remember there is a cap.

      50 + 1 = 50' (due to cap)

      50' - 1 = 49

      It isn't rocket science.

    24. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That all you need to do to find out how much Windows sucks is to pick random people off the street?

    25. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by MattCohn.com · · Score: 1

      And in that story, the WHOLE paper is gone? On the ad it's only half, and then in the interview it was three pages. Hmmmmmmm... Well, she WAS high on alergy meds at the time so who really knows? It was like beep beep beep beep beep beep and then some unknown amount was gone.

      It was like...

      ...

      ...

      ...

      a bummer.

    26. Re:I'm a little disappointed... by donutello · · Score: 1

      Einstein, do you want a cookie for figuring that out? There isn't anyone over here who doesn't know that, dumbass.

      We all know WHY it happens. It's still stupid that someone with karma 50 can make a post, have it be modded up to 5 and then down to 4 and then still end up with less karma than they started with.

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  15. In the long term by Hulver · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I really think that this is going to be bad for Linux as a whole.

    Everybody now is talking about Apple. Sure, It's pretty cool that Macs run Unix, but well, it's not Linux is it?

    Geeks are now starting to get Macs, instead of developing for Linux they're playing with all the cool stuff on their mac.

    Even Taco has got one! What next, will Linus get one? Will he decide that getting stuff done on his mac is more important than trying to get the next kernel out the door?

    Bah. Mac running unix might sound like a good thing, but all we're going to end up with is Apple as the new M$ instead.

    I just think it's a really bad thing for the whole Linux community.

    1. Re:In the long term by MilesBehind · · Score: 5, Funny

      I agree! Apple has Ellen Feiss, linux people have Alan Cox and Richard Stallman, neither of whom are too appealing.

      What we need to do is wait until Ellen's mac goes bleep, bleep and then shove a slackware cd into her hands. Then she can do commercials for linux.

    2. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Look, Linux's worst enemy isn't MacOS.

      Linux's worst enemy is the average linux advocate.

    3. Re:In the long term by terraformer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but I wouldn't run a server on a Mac when I can get the same thing, minus the memory hogging GUI for free. One will be in the server closet and one out on the office floor. I give that union a better chance than any marriage proposal on "The Bachelor"!

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    4. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What next, will Linus get one? Will he decide that getting stuff done on his mac is more important than trying to get the next kernel out the door?

      IIRC, Linus didn't quite fancy MacOS X, mainly because of what he sees as design flaws, mainly in MACH.

      So, basically, all your penguins are safe for now.

    5. Re:In the long term by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Have you used Mac OS X? (Particularly in it current incarnation?) It's ... a really, really good OS. That's why a lot of geeks use it. Good UI + Unix power is appealing to a lot of people.

      How is this bad for Linux? This is called healthy competition. Until Mac OS X, there really was no good UI for a desktop Unix-y OS. Linux desktops have improved dramatically since OS X was released, at least partly due to the fact that the developers have OS X as a benchmark of how good a Unix desktop can be. (Granted, they'd be improving even faster if so many developers weren't trying to clone the awful Windows interface, but that's another matter ...) And Apple is engaging in a frutiful give-and-take with the Open Source world. Microsoft has never done anything like this, and never will.

      Mac OS X and Linux are good for each other. More Unix-y OS users out there to provide a market, more developers writing software that can be ported to each other's platforms, more people getting the idea that Unix is not something scary and dangerous ...

      If Apple ever has 90% market share -- hell, if Apple ever has 50% market share -- you'll have something to worry about. Right now, Linux and OS X are natural allies.

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    6. Re:In the long term by RealityProphet · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I'll give you a hint: in business, you have to be ruthless. You won't last five seconds in such a rabidly competitive environment without being ruthless. Microsoft gets such a bad rap not because they are an "evil" company, but because:

      a) they are #1

      b) they get much more publicity than other companies

      c) they are #1

      ever wonder why none of the major computer companies, like Sun, MS, or Oracle, give away their source? People love to hate the top dog. Knock MS off, and what you'll get is another MS with a different name, that is all.

    7. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a little more concerned about people fawning over ad campaigns. You look the problems in society and wonder just how we arrived at this place. The you occasionally have a good look at the people around you and realize few don't think abuot much beyond what is within arm's reach. Little, tiny, worlds unconcerned about the forces that drive their lives. Is it television that reduces them to such a stupor, or does television simply appeal to people who were born that way?

    8. Re:In the long term by pigeon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I have to agree. I run Linux on all my servers, and love it, but OS X on the desktop really rocks.. I haven't had so much fun with my machine (A dual G4 powermac) since my Amiga 1000. It's also quite depressing when I have to work on a windows machine again, but I am very enthousiastic about OS X, it's easy, but if you want to do more complex stuff, that is also very well possible.

    9. Re:In the long term by galego · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I just think it's a really bad thing for the whole Linux community.

      And???...
      So...is that because Apple or someone else somehow cheated linux out?

      I have used Linux and probably will again some day. I'll run a web/file server or firewall on a home network with it and 'play' with it in general. Because I think Linux is better than OS X? No...because it's cheaper for me to set up and I can't afford a lot after paying for desktop equipment/SW. If Macromedia (and other SW makers) make their products on Linux (not just players), maybe I can go there some day.

      Apple beat Linux to the punch by creating a good consistent GUI over top of a unix (or unix-like) core. Linux's strength still isn't the desktop. Apple is marketing usability...Not the Linux world's traditional strength.

      Apple reaching M$'s market-share is long off and everything related to it is complete speculation.

      Change happens bro...

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    10. Re:In the long term by hype7 · · Score: 2
      Everybody now is talking about Apple. Sure, It's pretty cool that Macs run Unix, but well, it's not Linux is it?


      No, just like Linux isn't Apple. I mean, that's like me turning around and saying "Linux is bad for Apple as a whole".

      Maybe. But as long as neither of the two try predatory tactics (aka everyone's favourite Redmond software Co) then all it is is healthy competition. And that's a good thing, isn't it?

      I know where you're coming from - because I see it in reverse. When it boils down to it though, if we're both happy with our respective platforms, isn't that what counts?

      -- james
    11. Re:In the long term by Zathrus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd be interested in using OS X -- I've only played with it at CompUSA, but I have to say it looks slick. That and the Unix underbelly interests me.

      Shame the hardware is 2-3x the price of equivalent PC stuff. It's not worth that, particularly when my home PC is mostly for playing games. It'd be nice for development work at work though.

    12. Re:In the long term by Longshottek · · Score: 1

      It's not the average Linux advocate, (or is it) - but rather the average Linux Zealot.
      No one likes a religous nut...except for other religous nuts.

      I was told once that Linux is a teenager going through puberty... I must agree.

    13. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ellen feiss is nasty-ass stupid 15-year-old. please. i'll take cox or richard over her anyday. stallman is a crazy hippy which is soooo sexy.

    14. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OSX sucks. user friendly? I couldn't even figure out how to open up a shell.

    15. Re:In the long term by Kierthos · · Score: 1

      So, I was using a Mac, and I got "Error of type -1" and I was like.... hunh?

      Kierthos

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    16. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Shame the hardware is 2-3x the price of equivalent PC stuff.

      No, it isn't.

    17. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft got a bad rap because they put out endless amounts of bad software before they got it somewhat right, but they still owned the desktop market with their bad software (win3.x/95/98/ME). People hate MS after being practically forced to use their crappy OS with its BSOD's, memory leaks, and the web browser which crashed all the time. With Win2k/XP people started to hate less. But we haven't forgotten 3.x/95/98/ME. Though, now with 2k/XP we're stuck with GUI, why can't Windows have some decent CLI?

    18. Re:In the long term by nelsonal · · Score: 1

      Larry Ellison is much more ruthless than Bill, although he is usually pretty funny when he does a keynote, it's just that he is focused only on large enterprises, rather than consumers so he doesn't affect the average /.er. Wait until mySQL or PostgreSQL begins to approach Oracle's functionality, and you will have his fury unleashed. Sun only seems friendly because, like IBM, they see Linux as a way to sell more computers. Until opensource hardware arrives, they will only benefit from open source software.

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    19. Re:In the long term by Mononoke · · Score: 1
      It's ... a really, really good OS.
      You didn't learn much from the interview, did you. You should have said "It's ... like ...a really, really good OS."

      You're welcome.

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    20. Re:In the long term by Single+GNU+Theory · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I really think that this is going to be bad for Linux as a whole.

      How so? Linux is free. It doesn't matter what anyone else does. Linux will always be an available choice.

      Also, the Unix-type operating systems are all designed to work with open standards. Want to share files with a Sun box? Go right ahead with NFS! Want to share files with a Windows box? Lucky for us the Samba Team is reverse engineering the SMB protocol. You can add Mac OS X and Linux and BSD boxes to a Solaris NIS domain. You can add them to an NT domain only because of the Samba Team's work.

      Also, Apple doesn't have a monopoly on the desktop. They even have a different architecture for their computer systems, which means they cost more to make. Therefore, to be successful, Apple has to compete with commodity beige-box PCs on features alone to get people to pay more for a Mac. Is this a bad thing? Not if it makes the computing experience worth it for Mac users.

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    21. Re:In the long term by Melantha_Bacchae · · Score: 2

      Hulver wrote:

      > Everybody now is talking about Apple. Sure, It's
      > pretty cool that Macs run Unix, but well, it's not
      > Linux is it?

      Macs run Linux too, either natively (Linux for PPC) or via emulation (Linux for x86). Between dual booting and emulation, I read somewhere that it was possible to get 11 operating systems running on a Mac.

      > Geeks are now starting to get Macs, instead of
      > developing for Linux they're playing with all
      > the cool stuff on their mac.

      Geeks are developing on their Macs, especially since the development tools (including a cool IDE) are free. They are also porting many Linux programs to give them a far wider audience.

      > What next, will Linus get one? Will he decide
      > that getting stuff done on his mac is more
      > important than trying to get the next kernel out
      > the door?

      Linus should not have to spend the rest of his life on Linux if he doesn't want to. If he wants to move on to some other project and there is still big demand for Linux, he will find someone else to take his place. Just be thankful for what he has done (which is a lot for something he did for fun as a student), and appreciate him while you have him.

      OS X's success would not have been possible if Linus hadn't made Linux. He took the Unix world from the mortal wound Microsoft had inflicted back to interest, health, and even popularity. All of us, Linux users and Mac users alike, owe him a debt of gratitude for that!

      > Mac running unix might sound like a good thing,
      > but all we're going to end up with is Apple as
      > the new M$ instead.

      Apple wants their ancient 40% marketshare back. We don't talk about world domination, just being different (and possibly better ;). If Apple got their 40% back, and Linux got 20-40%, Microsoft would not even have a majority of the market, and there would be no monopoly. Just a bunch of operating systems happily cooperating and competing, which is how it should be.

      > I just think it's a really bad thing for the
      > whole Linux community.

      Remember, Mac and Linux have different niches. The Mac is easy to use, and has commercial software readily available. Linux may not be so easy to use, but the GUIs available resemble Windows and Linux can be installed on existing PC's, making for a less expensive corporate "switch" from Windows. It has little commercial software readily available, but has a wealth of open source software. Linux is also scalable from embeded systems like PDAs all the way to mainframes, whereas Macs are desktops, laptops, and the XServe.

      The Mac and Linux complement each other, and they work well together due to open standards. The only threat they pose is not to each other, but to Microsoft.

      "Your way of thinking is completely different from mine!"
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    22. Re:In the long term by proj_2501 · · Score: 2

      Open source hardware won't catch on as much because it's NOT free as in beer.

    23. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like Cox or Stallman are not nasty.

    24. Re:In the long term by Zane+Edwards · · Score: 1

      OK, this is getting off topic, but I couldn't resist since I have finally turned my gentoo partition into mp3's. :(

      Yes macs are great and I love mine, but instead of developing opensource programs, people realized that they can now make money by creating a cocoa version of top.

      I don't know the last time I have compiled a program, but I don't see a huge visible open source community growing out of the largest group of unix users.

    25. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sun gives source--dumb ass.

    26. Re:In the long term by Zathrus · · Score: 2

      Funny. I just comparison shopped. Yes it is. Partially due to idiotic moves by Apple like making the only expandable system be dual CPU. But even the base model system is well over 2x the price of an equivalent PC system.

      Yeah, I could go for one of the eMacs, which are less expensive. And I can put together a PC for under $500 too (again, half the price of the eMac). Neither of which are options I'd go for.

    27. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IIRC, Linus didn't quite fancy MacOS X, mainly because of what he sees as design flaws, mainly in MACH.

      Or it could be his massive ego that won't let him admit that Apple has achieved in 2 years what Linux people couldn't do in 10: making a UNIX that nontechies can use.

      Maybe if Linux guys didn't fetishize the command line, and refuse to design programs according to decent UI standards, Linux would be remotely close. Maybe if they weren't more interested in promoting "open source" instead of cultivating mature and accountable developers it would have happened.

      But alas, it isn't to be. Mac OS X is already bigger than Linux, soon it will become the de facto UNIX for all professionals, while Linux be relegated to where it belongs: your parents' basement.

    28. Re:In the long term by dhuff · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What next, will Linus get one? Will he decide that getting stuff done on his mac is more important than trying to get the next kernel out the door?
      That's exactly the point - getting stuff done (instead of jacking with the computer). I am so sick and tired of messing around with either Windows or Linux just to get them to do something useful with a minimum of hassle.

      Mind you, I'm a Unix admin at work, and use Linux as my desktop OS there, but at home it's just increasingly frustrating to try & get useful work accomplished. Yes, sometimes it's fun to just hack around at things, but why do so many home computing tasks need to be so obtuse and overly complicated to implement with these Intel-based OSes ? My next Unix box for the home will run Mac OSX...

    29. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sheesh, just in how many ways can you say the plural of unix?? unices, unixes, and now unix-y

    30. Re:In the long term by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Everybody now is talking about Apple. Sure, It's pretty cool that Macs run Unix, but well, it's not Linux is it?

      Geeks are now starting to get Macs, instead of developing for Linux they're playing with all the cool stuff on their mac.

      I know it might seem like that from reading Slashdot, buy my experiences in the Real World don't bear it out.

      Back home, my best mate was a massive Mac advocate. When I went round to his house, he'd always show me a Mac advert. He loved the Switch campaign of course. He was always telling people, even strangers, how great Apple hardware was. I used his Mac quite a bit, all my circle of friends used it at least once, many more times for me. Out of my friends who were geeks (about 4 or 5 of us :) they have all installed Linux at some point. Did they all stick with it? No. Andrew tried a live CD but his disk was all NTFS so he was a bit stuck. Ken set it up as a small server to allow net connection sharing (he's now using it also at university). Hugh used it because his brother used it. Even Paul, the huge Mac advocate, has installed it 3 times (he got pissed off at the poor PPC support each time though ;).

      Then I moved away from home, I got a job at a research company. It used to be Ministry of Defence research before it was privatised. Inside the department, Linux is slowly taking over. There are about 25 of us who joined together, they are my new friends now. I use Linux on the desktop all the time, several others use it part time (rebooting for games and such). Now Dave is getting interested, he was enthusing to me today about Knoppix (he didn't want to disturb his current setup). The company I work in is full of geeks, some of them not badly off at all.

      How many Macs have I seen since I left Paul behind? None. Zilch. Zero. How many Linux boxes? Loads.

      It's easy to forget that it appears that MacOS is losing market share, and by Apples own admission a few months ago, Linux has nearly double the desktop market share of OS X. Hard to believe isn't it, but outside of Slashdot, there are millions of people with PCs, who don't like Windows and want to try something different. It's easy to try Linux, it costs nothing, and isn't a huge decision. Install it in an evening, try it, if you don't like it, remove it and go back to Windows. Try again in a year or two.

      That last sentance is the crucial one, I've seen lots of people try Linux and go back to Windows. But they always try again. And again. I tried Linux 3 times before dropping Windows.

      Bah. Mac running unix might sound like a good thing, but all we're going to end up with is Apple as the new M$ instead. I just think it's a really bad thing for the whole Linux community.

      Don't worry :) It's alright, Linux is chugging along just nicely. The Mac isn't, and never was, a realistic proposition for most people. That's why it has 4% of the market (far less if you only count os x machines), when it originally had more like 40%. In much the same way that the PC won out over the Mac in the early/mid 90s because the PC was economically if not technically superior (competition drove down margins, powered massive speed increases and so on), Linux gains from the same effect. The presence of competition is usually beneficial to a market as a whole.

      For the small number of geeks that decide to stop kernel hacking in favour of writing a new Cocoa IRC client or whatever, they will be replaced 2 times over by newcomers and business. There aren't any flash adverts about it, but the statistics stand.

    31. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "...Shame the hardware is 2-3x the price of equivalent PC stuff..."
      Depends what you're looking for. Price out their laptops and look at what's included with them and you'll find they're very competitive. Remember that you can't do a simple MHz to MHz comparison between x86 and PowerPC.

      Also of interest to developers is that development tools are free and even included on a CD with each machine, and the NeXTStep derived IDE is pretty good. Right there that's a few hundred bucks worth of software you'd have to buy from Microsoft to develop for Windows. A Linux equipped x86 box may more economical than an Apple system, but a Windows development system certainly isn't, at least not in the laptop systems I priced out.

      Ah, but...
      "...It's not worth that, particularly when my home PC is mostly for playing games..."
      If gaming is your interest, then OS X isn't the right animal, not now, anyway. Choose the right tool for the job, I say.
    32. Re:In the long term by sheldon · · Score: 2

      I run Windows XP and haven't had this much fun on a computer since my Amiga 500.

      Maybe you just aren't using it right?

      Or could it be that you missed Dark Castle?

    33. Re:In the long term by Richiemann · · Score: 1

      What about burying her under a ton of Slackware floppies? bleep,bleep,blee...

    34. Re:In the long term by lost_n_mad · · Score: 1

      I've gone through this before on Yahoo!. And your comment really draws me back to the point I made there many many months ago.
      Apple will never get more than 20% of the market. Their time to gain more than that has past, and their total control of the hardware is what makes their OS so great and stable (Unix definetly helps, but it's their control of both sides of the equation)and that is what is going to hurt them in the long run. I am an Apple user and I can see the truth of that.
      It's honestly up to Linux to gain the greater marketshare. They (the distro's) are the ones who must replace Window's in people's homes and workplaces. I would love to see Linux as a choice on every major manufacturer's ordering list (HP, Dell, Gateway, NEC, et al) and when people see those $500 pc's become $300 pc's they'll make the switch. And Linux is getting there with their UI, and Linux is getting into people's minds thanks to Apple and Open Source. It's a good relationship for just the PR (yeah I know Linux is not Unix, but the names are close enough to mix the *nix, lol).
      What I would like to see in the next 5-10 years is a 10-15% Apple marketshare, a 30-40% Linux marketshare, and Window's fighting every step of the way to hold onto their dwindling empire.
      And, oh yeah, Ellen can call it cold medicine if she wants, but somehow I doubt it was benydryl.

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    35. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      So, I was using a Mac, and I got "Error of type -1" and I was like.... hunh?


      That's because you aren't using OS X. That error doesn't exist in OS X. Update that Mac before attempting parody!
    36. Re:In the long term by bnenning · · Score: 2
      Partially due to idiotic moves by Apple like making the only expandable system be dual CPU.


      Yeah, I hate it when computer manufacturers try to shove additional CPUs into my boxes.


      Seriously, the reason for this is that Motorola has displayed amazing ineptitude in PowerPC development, so duals are the only way to stay competitive with 3GHz x86 processors.

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    37. Re:In the long term by mark_lybarger · · Score: 1

      Or it could be his massive ego that won't let him admit that Apple has achieved in 2 years what Linux people couldn't do in 10: making a UNIX that nontechies can use.

      it could be that massive ego. after all the linux folks took other's tools (gnu) and ended up building a OS kernel. these apple folks took an existing operating system, slapped a "pretty" gui on top, port a few applications and call it a day. i can see how they've got the linux kernel developers beat on that one.

    38. Re:In the long term by benedict · · Score: 2

      Crap. Microsoft breaks the law. Repeatedly,
      consistently, unapologetically, with serious
      consequences.

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    39. Re:In the long term by dbrutus · · Score: 2

      You can type >console into the longin box to kill the gui on a per boot basis and you can edit the startup files so aqua never loads if you don't want it. OTOH, the value proposition for the Xserve is that you get a very nice Unix based server that's cheaper than Windows (unlimited client licenses) and is at least as easy to administer as Windows for your average 20-50 seat small company.

    40. Re:In the long term by dbrutus · · Score: 2

      Actually, there's a lot less need for slots in the Mac world because they tend to have more functionality integrated in. If you're limiting yourself to a system with slots, you really should make sure that it's not just for useless warm fuzzies.

    41. Re:In the long term by dosh8er · · Score: 1

      What you don't realize is that the majority of linux users, at SOME point or another, love linux because of its SIZE and the fact that it runs on the not so new, slower machines that most of the population suffer with. From the grievings of a friend of mine, I don't think OSX can even touch that realm.

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    42. Re:In the long term by drinkypoo · · Score: 2
      You know I don't keep trying linux over and over again, I know I want to use linux but I sometimes forget which distribution I want.

      What I keep forgetting is that Redhat Is Crap and every time I install it I vow never to install it again. Then they bring out a new release which is supposed to be better, and have a better installer, and it still sucks.

      Now if I could just stop trying redhat every year or so, I'd be okay.

      (ObligatoryDisclaimer: I have been using linux since kernel 1.1.47 and I now use gentoo on my firewall and XP on my desktop. Aren't you sorry you read this far, zealot?)

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    43. Re:In the long term by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2
      sheesh, just in how many ways can you say the plural of unix?? unices, unixes, and now unix-y

      I wasn't using it as a plural noun. It's an adjective: "like or related to Unix." Thus covering Linux, BSD (including OS X) etc.

      I would have just said "Unix OS" but I didn't want a bunch of "Linux/BSD/OS X isn't One True Unix" flames.
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    44. Re:In the long term by medscaper · · Score: 1

      You're French, aren't you?

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    45. Re:In the long term by MobyTurbo · · Score: 2
      Andrew tried a live CD but his disk was all NTFS so he was a bit stuck.
      Partition Magic can resize NTFS partitions. PM 7.0 even supports Windows XP's NTFS partitions. Unfortunately, the product is closed source. It worked well on my system resizing an NTFS partition however.
    46. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Though, now with 2k/XP we're stuck with GUI, why can't Windows have some decent CLI?"

      I feel you. I actually like Win2K and am loving .NET server, but I long for something as simple, elegant, and efficient as my bash shell on 'nix. Cmd.exe is just crappy, though with tweakui you can enable tab completion of files / directories. I know about cygwin, but it still does not feel right and is often times buggy as well. If windows would give me a complete shell, stop putting spaces in file names, and stop using godforsaken BACKWARDS slashes, I would be a very happy camper. Multiple desktops would be nice too. While I am at it, I would like to see their licensing / EULA improve. I can dream I suppose. As it is now, I use a mix of BSD, Linux, and Windows to meet my needs. I am still faster and more productive in Linux than anything else, but I really like some aspects of Windows. I should probably just buy a Mac and be done with it. Prettier / better interface than windows, BSD guts and real shell, and Fink for all of my Linux apps. Perfect combo, if only I had the cash.

    47. Re:In the long term by Brian_at_Work · · Score: 1

      Repeat after me.. Apple is a hardware company...
      The have no huge intrest in beating out Linux, they just want a good solid OS running on Their computers... They made OS X to drive hardware sales.

    48. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ... I got a job at a research company.......I use Linux on the desktop all the time, several others use it part time (rebooting for games....

      A game partition at work! Damn, is your company hiring?

    49. Re:In the long term by be-fan · · Score: 2

      Until Mac OS X, there really was no good UI for a desktop Unix-y OS
      >>>>>>>>>>
      KDE is a great desktop. Suck it Mac-bitch!

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    50. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Unlimited client licenses?" Beg your pardon, but so fucking what? This is the Mac OS we're talking about, and a version that only runs on very recent Macs. So Apple doesn't charge them for the $50/seat bug fix that companies wouldn't have bothered getting anyway, but only because they've already made a killing selling them pretty hardware at 10% over market value. If that isn't enough to make it more expensive than a comparably equipped Windows network, you have to deal with an OS where things like the entire printing subsystem change from release to release. Talk about admin nightmares; I'd rather administer a Linux 2.4 network with a different VM for every day of the week. Come to think of it, Apple probably had to give away client licenses to get the computers to even talk to each other.

    51. Re:In the long term by pthisis · · Score: 2

      Seriously, the reason for this is that Motorola has displayed amazing ineptitude in PowerPC development, so duals are the only way to stay competitive with 3GHz x86 processors.

      I'd much rather have an expandible box even if the CPU were a single P3 500 Mhz. Nothing I do comes close to pegging that, and I do plenty of video playback, mp3s in the background, etc. Sure, for video editing or high-end gaming a faster CPU may be nice, but I'd rather save the money on that and put it into more of Apple's cool industrial design, better screen, more hardware, and more expandibility in general.

      Sumner

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    52. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I run AmigaOS and haven't had this much fun on a computer since my... No wait, umm...

    53. Re:In the long term by ivenus · · Score: 1

      You should be in a Switch ad. A lot of people seem to miss the point that something can be both powerful and simple.

    54. Re:In the long term by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2

      He didn't want to pay for Partition Magic. He was curious like most of them, but was happy with Windows and didn't want to pay for another OS, including utilities

    55. Re:In the long term by mixama · · Score: 1

      O'please, KDE is a joke.

    56. Re:In the long term by charon_on_acheron · · Score: 1

      Well, now that the Harry Potter folks are looking for a replacement for Professor Dumbeldore, maybe Mr Stallman should go for the role. He would have a great advantage over others, 1,000,000 people waiting to slashdot the movie theaters on opening night. ;^)

    57. Re:In the long term by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will be like, "Whoa, I tried to install this Linux thing, and it was all texty and a pain, and then I read a bunch of HOWTOs, and I tried to recompile the kernel, and I got it to boot, but then X Windows would only draw in 640x480 in black and white, but finally I got it to display in Gnome, but there was no sound, and then I couldn't run Photoshop or iTunes or iMovie or any good games and I tried to plug in my video cam to firewire and it was like, no beeps or anything, just didn't even see it. It was such a ... bummer." ;-)

    58. Re:In the long term by dbrutus · · Score: 2

      If you'd rather administer a Linux 2.4 network guess what, you're not in the target market for this solution. You probably want to use Linux over Windows as well. Guess what, XServe isn't targetted at you and probably never will be.

      Give it a rest.

      As for printers, they screwed up, were man enough to fix it and are likely to stick to CUPS from here on in. What would you rather have, that they stuck with some proprietary solution that didn't work as well? Silly boy.

  16. Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    For the 234892 of you who will inevitably post 'the server was already slashdotted', the interview was a lot like a standard interview, with questions and answers. Ellen thinks your fascination with her is unhealthy and you should get lives. She doesn't like that she's on your coffee mug. The toothless man in the Feiss look-a-like contest was the funniest. The Dell dude is a doofus. She's friends with the son of Errol Morris and that's how she really got her part. And her ad was filmed at around 10pm and she was on Benadryl, so of course she seems out of it. Also, her really really good paper was about Chinatowns appearing in cities across America. She was asked to appear on Letterman/Leno but declined because she figured her fame would dry up quickly, like going from Leno to Regis to some local public access deal... but she's in talks with MTV and possibly the Farrelly brothers.

    That's all from memory and I read it a while ago. Stop complaining about the server being slashdotted or CmdrTaco will come to your house and eat your children.

    1. Re:Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was this modded up as Informative because it summarized the article, or because it told us that CmdrTaco eats children (which before I did not know)?

    2. Re:Summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's because of his amazing memory!

  17. Like, typical Mac user? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Like, if you're a brain dead-teen, like, with the linguistic skills of a Klingon, like, and, like, you hit the delete button at the wrong time, like, cause you're thinking about what your girlfriends are gonna wear to school, like, and you write papers on the use of the word like, like, then
    maybe you are the typical Mac user, like?

    Interesting market demographic....

    1. Re:Like, typical Mac user? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like, I was really into her and secretly wished she was my girlfriend. But then, like, I read the article and found out she thinks I need a life. So, like, now I'm going to make fun of her!

      Go home to your mama, cry baby.

    2. Re:Like, typical Mac user? by nutshell42 · · Score: 2, Funny
      So, we can choose between brain-dead teenies, a dancing paper-clip and the real-life version of dust-puppy who's always rambling about GNU/Freedom

      Great

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    3. Re:Like, typical Mac user? by TomHandy · · Score: 1
      Don't be daft. There's nothing about the apple switch ads that say they represent typical Mac users.........they are a wide selection of different kinds of people with different careers, personalities, etc. (even a few celebrities like De La Soul and Yo Yo Ma).

      Of course it's funny to ignore the ad campaign as a whole to make a snarky comment about how this ad is somehow supposed to be representing the entire "market" of Mac users, but fortunately most people are typically intelligent enough to understand the campaign as a whole. That all you can take from it is that you think this one ad as part of a larger campaign is somehow supposed to represent the typical Mac users says a lot about your own intelligence.

      -Tom

    4. Re:Like, typical Mac user? by quacking+duck · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, you're saying the majority of people using Dells fall into the category of the irritating Dell dude?

      Dude, interesting market demographic!

  18. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Nice one.

    I'm at work, too...

  19. Mr. Troll says.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It *is* hosted on a Mac

    1. Re:Mr. Troll says.... by clarkcox3 · · Score: 1

      Actually, according to netcraft, it is running Windows: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.brown dailyherald.com&submit=Examine

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    2. Re:Mr. Troll says.... by Walterk · · Score: 1

      Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80040e4d'

      [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Too many client tasks. /post/storylist_feature.asp, line 5

    3. Re:Mr. Troll says.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So? All the better? Get a sense of humor, Mac zealot.

  20. elen feiss's popularity by pamri · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems others are noticing elen feiss's popularity with the geek crowd.

  21. damn like by squarefish · · Score: 0

    I was sooo excited to read this, now I'm going through withdrawels... damn /.

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  22. Mirror! by Arker · · Score: 1, Funny

    Here's a Mirror for you!












    Sorry, couldn't resist. Can someone post a mirror of the article please? ;)

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  23. Like, thats a lot. by deathcloset · · Score: 5, Funny

    She says "like", like 28 times. I like counted.

    1. Re:Like, thats a lot. by BlueGecko · · Score: 4, Funny

      Since you have pointed that out, to save you time, I will assume the responsibility of counting the number of times "Get a Life" appears in the following threads.

      (It's a joke!)

    2. Re:Like, thats a lot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a life.

    3. Re:Like, thats a lot. by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 3, Funny

      But do you like it? I think it's like, most likely, you and her seem like very much alike to me :)

  24. "Bendadryl" my butt by revscat · · Score: 5, Funny

    The funny thing was, I was on drugs! I was on Benedryl, my allergy medication, so I was really out of it anyway. That's why my eyes were all red, because I have seasonal allergies. But no one believes me.

    Mmmhmm.

    Look, Ellen, I've done a lot of dope during my day. Bunch. Used to grow it, in fact. And I've taken Benadryl, too.

    Not once has Benadryl made people think I'm high. Never. I've taken Benadryl, gone to work, nobody even knew. Weed makes people think I'm high. The bloodshot eyes, the lazy movements, the relaxed jaw and speaking style. Fuck, you're wearing a cotton pullover with a hood. Comfy clothes, man. Comfy clothes are all you care about wearing when you're stoned. Detective Rev. says that you were high as a fucking kite but can't admit it because you'll get in trouble.

    Can't blame you, but can't believe you, either.

    1. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine this... certain meds affect people differently. Who'd've thunk it?

    2. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bendadryl, as alot alergy meds, can effect people that way.

      I can't take it cuz it trips me out. A cheap high, but beer is cheaper....

    3. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by vrt3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think she means her eyes were red because of her allergies, not because of the Benadryl.

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    4. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by burts_here · · Score: 2, Funny

      actually Benadryl has a very similair effect to me as weed, guess i have low tolerance, but if i take Benadryl i have less chance of making it through the day without falling asleep at work or sitting their for twenty minutes playing with a paper clip and elastic band then dissapreaing for an hour in search of doritos. if i take weed ok so i zone but i can actually get stuff done, admitadely not what i'm meant to but you no what i mean, still reckon she was stoned though.

      --
      Burt "Out of my mind back in 5 minutes"
    5. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by deathcloset · · Score: 5, Funny

      Like, I crushed the benadryl and sprinkled it on my bowl and it was like, flick..bubble bubble bubble...

    6. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by suffocate · · Score: 0

      Benadryl knocks me the hell out whenever I take it. If Claritin isn't doing its job I take a Benadryl... and them I'm worthless for the rest of the day.

    7. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Good Lord! A teenager in a hooded sweatshirt who says "like" all the time! How unusual! Must be on drugs.

      Divot.

    8. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by twocoasttb · · Score: 0, Troll

      Well, good for you. Probably the reason Benadryl doesn't affect you is *because* you've done a lot of dope. Give the kid a break. Just because you're a stoned loser, it doesn't mean she is.

    9. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by NFNNMIDATA · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Folks who disagree with the parent, watch the ad. It's hard to tell if it's for apple or if it's an anti-drug ad or even if it's a Conan O'Brien-style parody. You keep waiting for her to say she microwaved the baby. She's obviously stoned, question is can you really get that stoned on Benadryl? Consider also that she admits she was only there for the free food in the first place (*cough* munchies *cough*)...

    10. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by karlandtanya · · Score: 1

      This chick is surely as stoned as a rock garden.

      Lotsa OTC drugs can make you stoned, including benadryl.

      Now, 'bout the eyes...Umm... yeah. I don't think benadryl will put those skinned tomatoes in your eye sockets!

      --
      "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
    11. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by chinakow · · Score: 1

      Dude, maybe for you but the last time I took Benadryl, it was space cadet time, bad, I was gone, anyway the point being that medications affect everyone differently.

    12. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by revery · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've worked in plenty of hospitals, and seen plenty of people on allergy medication. Some people have such a strong reaction to benadryl that they sleep for days from the effects. Her behavior and appearance is conclusively indicative of nothing. But since you're a stoner, you must be right.
      I mean look at your proof. She was wearing comfy clothes. Comfy. What could influence an individual to wear comfy clothes but the gentle ministrations of marijuana? Comfy clothes. Thank you. I now know that my grandmother is a stoner. My friend's little sister, also a stoner. Hundreds of people, who I used to think maybe they just liked soft cotton, all stoners. Comfy. clothes. Joggers beware. I'm on to you.

    13. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by terbor · · Score: 1

      I've got the same problem with Benadryl. I can be wide awake. Take a Benadryl or two, and Boom! I'm out of it or just plain out.

    14. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by stuntpope · · Score: 1

      2 benadryl will make me useless for an entire day, and even into the next. It makes me bleary and listless... much like Ellen looked in the ad. It's not like a high, but definitely a low.

    15. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by kuiken · · Score: 1

      Just freaks me out she uses the same "excuse" as i used to

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      42
    16. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

      Maybe that's the image they want to project - a computer so friendly even a stoner can use it.

      We still need to educate the public and their legislators about cannibis use and stop the criminalization of casual users, esp. when a far greater health hazzard in the form of alcohol is legal and available.

      --
      try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
    17. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only problem with this rebuttal is that she is probly right and you are probably wrong. You forget what Benedryl can do to a 15-year-old waif. She was probably VERY drowsy especially that late at night. And the red eyes? Well, as an allergy sufferer myself, the red eyes are from the allergy not the drugs. Every allergy is different.

      As a side note, in high school, all my friends were stoners for two reasons. One, they were the most interesting crowd to run with. (It was fun to mess with their heads when they were stoned.) Two, everyone always thought I was a stoner, because my allergies were so bad. (This is the days before claritin and other newer meds that don't have the same side effects.) So it was harder to make friends with non-stoners even though I never touched anything except for alcohol.

      Take it from someone who knows. Allergies suck and can make you a stoner even when you don't want to be.

    18. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wants even more convincing is that her friend Hamilton Morris looks/acts pretty baked, too. It seems like too much of a coincidence that he would have allergies and be on benadryl, too.

      So putting it all together:
      They smoked a fat one before heading over there to eat free food. And they were so toasted that they actually agreed to being in the ads and forgot to ask how much they're getting paid.

    19. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by twocoasttb · · Score: 1

      Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things, but you've got about half of what I've got, except for the two acres. I've got one. Good for you. I don't give a rat's ass if you've done dope. I've done dope. My point was to give a kid a break.

    20. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Making that much money and having a degree makes you a better person then, huh? I don't think I'd hang around somebody that would brag about that.

    21. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hey Detective Rev...

      Just for the record, You and I have a lot in common, 'cept Benadryl does make me look and act stoned. Even more so than weed actually.


      In the past this has led to some really funny ironies... My GF or co-workers asking "Are you stoned?" on one of the occasions when I'm NOT because my allergies had been killing me.


      Smoke + Allergies never mixed well with me, so the first thing I used to do was stop smoking during allergy season. Then if things didn't improve after a couple of weeks I would reluctantly take Benadryl... I say reluctantly because it makes me slooow, bloodshot eyes and all.


      Then later in the year when I really was stoned nobody could tell. Odd, eh?


      just a counter perspective. Really only Ellen knows what Ellen was taken, and I don't think any of us really care when it comes down to it. It is, like, a reall good commercial though. I wonder how much outtake footage there is?


      (That look on her face when she says "and half of my paper was gone, and I was like..... uhh..." is classic!)

    22. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Theaetetus · · Score: 1
      >Well, good for you. Probably the reason Benadryl doesn't affect you is *because* you've done a lot of dope. Give the kid a break.
      >Just because you're a stoned loser, it doesn't mean she is.

      I have a master's degree, make &70,000 a year and have a 4 bedroom house on 2 acres of land. Fuck you.

      You make 70 thousand ampersands a year? Wow! You're no stoned loser!

      However, that whole 'Fuck You' thing... Maybe you need to relax, smoke a doobie or something and chill out. Have you forgotten your stoner roots so easily, man?

      Heh

      -T

    23. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by dildatron · · Score: 2

      Wow, I hope if you have kids they aren't such pompous fucks like you, that would be sad.

      You really are a loser. Go take a ride in your corvette.

      --


      If you had nuts on your chin, would they be chin nuts?
    24. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'You really are a loser. Go take a ride in your corvette.' I would, but the new $10,000 motor took the transmission out.

    25. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by BeeShoo · · Score: 1

      Perhaps not, but the allergies she was taking the Benadryl for could.

    26. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn Glad I didn't stay in school then.
      I'm a high school dropout making 100G a year with a 4 bedroom house on a half acre.

    27. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by elmegil · · Score: 2

      So obviously benadryl doesn't work for her. Why would she be taking it then?

      --
      7 November 2006: The day Americans realized corruption and incompetence weren't addressing 11 September 2001
    28. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by BeeShoo · · Score: 1

      I blame society ;-)

    29. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She is 5 you pedo idiot.

    30. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Cyno · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but I know an alcoholic CCIE. Hell, I'm a pothead Sr. Unix Admin myself. Drugs are not the problem, the government is. And capitalism, but that can be controlled.

    31. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by benedict · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd just like to stand up here and say that I've
      been stoned on antihistamines. I mean, everything
      from slightly floaty to completely immobile. And
      no, I don't take them recreationally, this is just
      what I've noticed when I've taken them for legit
      reasons.

      This does not constitute an opinion on the veracity
      of Ms. Feiss's claim.

      --
      Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems."
    32. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by benedict · · Score: 2

      I dunno, it looks like it worked for her pretty well. :-)

      --
      Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems."
    33. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      forget the little sister... let's talk about the grandma. she easy?

    34. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      5, huh? Damn, too old.

    35. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought benadryl was supposed to get rid of allergy symptoms

    36. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But she's got the body of a 3 year old!

    37. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Funny
      Joggers beware. I'm on to you.

      Uh no. THC is a CNS depressant. Joggers are obviously on some kind of stimulant to get up at oh-dark-thirty, put on their jogging suit with racing stripes, head out into the freezing cold and destroy their knees. I suspect crack.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    38. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by ProfKyne · · Score: 2

      In the interview she did admit that it was free food which drew her to the film studio.

      --
      "First you gotta do the truffle shuffle."
    39. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      Windows PCs: so sucky even a stoner can't find any redeeming features.

      --

      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

    40. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by revery · · Score: 1

      My bad.
      This only goes to show that comfy clothes is a
      positive indicator for at least two different types
      of drugs. Astounding!!! My grandmother: stoner or
      crackhead? Only her German Shepherd knows for sure.

    41. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      I always suspected that there was something wrong with those joggers. Heck, the crack of dawn is when I usually fall asleep!

      --
      "Common Sense Ain't" -Unknown
    42. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      maybe not you, but everytime -i- take benedryl for seasonal allergies, people think i'm high. in high school, everyone in my classes who didn't know me thought i was a huge stoner. my junior year, i started getting compliments from the pot heads:

      "dude! you have some fuckin' balls to go to class baked, man!"

    43. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by HamNRye · · Score: 2

      I'm with the Rev. on this one. Further more, the ads were shot in succession, and another one of Ellen's friends was interviewed. Hamilton Morris here looks pretty baked too. Or maybe he just picked up Ellen's "Allergies". Perhaps he mistakenly drank her benadryl thinking it was her GBH...

      So, if they all went out and got toasty before Hamilton's commercial, Ellen must have been going down for the weed nap just about the time of the commercial. She ain't stoned, she's crashing.

      Was there an Ellen Feiss on the Grassy Bowl?? The conspiracy of 2003...

      ~Hammy

      The fact you disagree with what I'm saying proves you do not understand it.

    44. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by nakaduct · · Score: 2

      You have an 8-bedroom house?

    45. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I have a master's degree,

      In what and from where? Education MS degrees are a _dime_ a dozen. Where'd you go also? Devry? hehe

      make &70,000 a year

      So do garbage men in NY

      and have a 4 bedroom house on 2 acres of land.

      The guy was baiting you. Do you really thing it was necessary to try and defend your honor on slashdot? You are a loser.

    46. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well you can also get that way by taking Depakote and Risperdal. Not that I would have any experience with that, but if I did have any experience taking those drugs I would have sounded very stoned at the time.

    47. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by libertarian · · Score: 1

      Her comment about going there for the free food won my vote for "stoned".

      "Hey, man, let's like, go over to my Dad's shoot...they've got free food!"

      "Like, OK.."

    48. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Benadryl is a kick in the ass. I'm not certain if anyone ever took Benadryl then went and put in a fruitful day at work. When I first started getting allergies, I purchased a box of Benadryl, and each pill was an altered experience in the making. The first time I took it, I was having a dinner party. I had started become allergic to my cat, I took two pills. One of my friends commented, how it was the first time she had ever seen me drunk (I had no alcohol, that night). Before the dinner was even over, I was out cold on the couch, while my friends enjoyed themselves around me. It was highly recommended by my doc, that I avoid using Benadryl in the future, and stick to more benign allergy medicines.

    49. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt by HTTP+Error+403+403.9 · · Score: 1

      Benadryyl - my butt? It's not a suppository. No wonder nobody knew you were on it.

      --
      I'm not a Troll, it's reverse psychology.
  25. Ellen fiess merchandice link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  26. Allergy Medication? by Frosty+Inc. · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Yeah right! Like, I'm so sure that allergy meds make you totally seem like you just smoked a fat joint. Own up to it already. You were stoned. Besides, confirming you were baked could only IMPROVE your image among your fans :-D .

    --


    Move along...nothing to see here.
    1. Re:Allergy Medication? by erlenic · · Score: 1

      I've actually gotten about half as fucked up as she did off of Benadryl. I've only taken it a few time in my life, and each time it made me incredibly tired, but I insisted on staying up, so I ended up with the sleep deprivation high.

    2. Re:Allergy Medication? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh, yes, if you read early on in the interview, she also mentions that they were going to the set for free food..

      Munchies, red eyes, her general slothful tone, and yes, comfy clothes (not to mention she's a 15 year old in CA)..

      Stoner!

  27. shes only 15?? by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 5, Funny

    damnit, now im gonna have to go back to chasing Natalie Portman with a bowl full of grits.

    Pay attention now mods, this is an attempt at HUMOR, not a troll, or flamebait, or offtopic. Thank you.

    --
    All Troll + "offtopic" mods are meta moderated as "Unfair", because you abused the system.
    1. Re:shes only 15?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      haha, first thought in my head too. (not trolling)

    2. Re:shes only 15?? by zapfie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How are troll and offtopic mods an abuse of the system?

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      slashdot!=valid HTML
    3. Re:shes only 15?? by beq · · Score: 1

      Naw, if you were really trying for humor, it would have been a bowl full of lutefisk.

      Grits humor hasn't been generally accepted as funny since the mid 1940s (although it survived in pockets until at least the 70s, as witnessed in the carreer of Martin Mull).

      --
      -Brendan
    4. Re:shes only 15?? by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      --And don't forget Flo on the old sitcom "Alice", who always said "Kiss mah grits, Mel!"

      --
      .
      == WolfriderV6 == I'm willing to admit that *I just might* be wrong... Are you??
  28. Slashdot Poll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
    Ellen...
    • I'd Hit It!
    • Jailbait
    • Jailbait...but I'd hit it!
    • She breathed on me and I got so high
    • Only if Cowboy Neal hit it first
    Vote now, vote often because the results are as dubious as Ellen's sobriety anyway.
  29. Seems nice enough by GT_Alias · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Seems like a nice enough kid to me, if not a bit like a rabbit caught in the headlights of instant fame.

    At least she can laugh about all of the crazy stuff, like dress-up contests. Too many other people would, "like, freak out because that's really, like, wierd."

    Ah to be 15, ignorant, naive, on Benadryl, and an instant celebrity.

    1. Re:Seems nice enough by minitrue · · Score: 1

      Seems like a nice enough kid to me, if not a bit like a rabbit caught in the headlights of instant fame.

      Yeah, but how many rabbits are media savvy enough to realize her own novelty, avoid the talk show circuit, and hold out for a possibly more lucrative deal with MTV - despite having a major corportation [Apple] tell her to do otherwise?

      That's what gets me is that she seems neither naive nor ignorant.

    2. Re:Seems nice enough by Chazmati · · Score: 2

      But not ignorant and naive enough to go on Letterman and Leno. I tend to agree with her, an appearance like that could have burned out her fame--maybe because she IS just a nice-enough kid, and Leno or Letterman would have revealed that.

      She's got enough character/looks/style to stand out from the other 15-year-olds (even on Slashdot, ha ha). Once her image "floats" for a while maybe she'll hook up with something bigger that a single late-night talk show appearance.

    3. Re:Seems nice enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Ah to be 15, ignorant, naive, on Benadryl, and an instant celebrity.
      you mean like again?
    4. Re:Seems nice enough by n3m6 · · Score: 2, Funny

      why do i have this weird feeling that Benadryl is gonna be out of stock from marts very soon .

  30. Can she like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    stop, like, using the word like? It's so, like, so 1980s.

  31. I don't think I'd like to be in her place by vadim_t · · Score: 1

    I just find it odd. It's not like she's the only one of her species, is she? If I got filmed for an ad and looked like a fool in it I could understand if people laughed a bit, but this is just excessive. Can't people find something better to do? If I was in her place I think by now I'd be wishing to hide somewhere until people forgot about it.

  32. Lies! Damned lies!! by seanmeister · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to Ellen in the interview:

    It's kind of a funny story. I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food. So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.

    According to Ellen at Apple's site:

    I'm writing to share a tragic little story.

    My Dad has a PC that my sister and I used to use for our homework assignments. One night, I was writing a paper on it, when all of a sudden it went berserk, the screen started flashing, and the whole paper just disappeared. All of it. And it was a good paper! I had to cram and rewrite it really quickly. Needless to say, my rushed paper wasn't nearly as good, and I blame that PC for the grade I got.

    I'm happy to report that my sister and I now share an Apple PowerBook. It's a lot nicer to work on than my dad's PC was, it hasn't let me down once, and my grades have all been really good.

    Thanks, Apple.

    Ellen Feiss


    So which was it - an email to Apple, or a hookup with the director's son?

    1. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by nordicfrost · · Score: 5, Informative

      But what about: (From the article)
      Post:Is the story you told true?
      Ellen: Oh yeah, it's definitely true.

      Post:What was the paper about?
      Ellen: It was about Chinatown, and the formation of Chinatowns in America. I lost like three pages of it; it was terrible. It was a really,

      If the story is true, it doesn't matter if she knows the son of the director.

    2. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by WildBeast · · Score: 2

      You know, it's called an ad. She did get paid though, unlike what the others said.

    3. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Zathrus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How are the two mutually exclusive?

      She was writing a paper, lost it, and had to rewrite it. This lead to the purchase of an Apple PowerBook.

      She was later picked for the Switch ad by pure chance and happy (?) coincidence. Apple asks her to write the "letter" to share the story behind her switch.

      Thus they're both true. You misapplied cause and effect to imply an effect that wasn't there.

    4. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by stratjakt · · Score: 1

      Bah, who cares.

      If she couldn't reproduce it, her paper sucked in the first place.

      Milton, the blind bard, wrote Paradise Lost in his head, and dictated it to a scribe. Ellen can't remember some dumb-ass high school paper about Chinatown.

      It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools for his work.

      Her paper would have sucked if she wrote it on a Cray.

      --
      I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
    5. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by seanmeister · · Score: 2

      I never said her story was in question, just the circumstances under which she came to tell it.

      To me, there's a difference between having your PC sob story selected from other submissions (like Apple implies) and being picked because you happen to be hanging out with the director's son at the right time.

      No big deal, it's just another ad. :-)

    6. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Asprin · · Score: 2

      NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

      Next, you're going to tell us Janie Porche is an athiest!



      (Psst.... pay attention to the *last* line of the ad!)

      --
      "Lawyers are for sucks."
      - Doug McKenzie
    7. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      If she couldn't reproduce it, her paper sucked in the first place.

      I'm not so sure. According to the interview:

      It was a really, really good paper.

      But she like said it was really, really good! Like how good is that Milton dude anyway. He's probably just, I don't know, only like really good.

    8. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      and...

      15 yr olds need their parent/guardian permission IN WRITING (not the phone) BEFORE the shoot. The minor also has to sign the contract themselves, which has the fee in BIG type so you can't miss it.

      benadryl is a cough syrup. (sure it'll get you stoned....) "I have Allergies" is a not very original cry of the busted stoner...

      I think it's all retro too, which was apparently a bad thing for MS last week....

    9. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by nosphalot · · Score: 1

      Actually I like the line at the end of Janie's email.

      But when was the last time your computer got YOU a date?

      I'd love to hear the /. answers to that question.

    10. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      You missed the smoking gun entirely!

      In the commercial she said that "like, half of my paper was gone" (visualize karate chop across the screen to emphasize that the paper was divided)

      In the note she is emphatic that the whole paper was lost (all of it)

      Is this just another benedryl induced inconsistency, or is it proof that the whole story is a lie? (since she can't even keep the basic facts straight)

    11. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, but in the comercial she says she lost all of it, now she says she lost three pages of it (implying that there more than three and she lost only three). I have no idea how you can lose three pages and not all of it.

    12. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by banzai51 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What makes me laugh about her story (besides her, of course) is the opposite could be true of every student of the University of Michigan in the early to mid nineties. U of M had all of it's non-engineering computer rooms stocked with Macs. The Macs were notorious for crashing. The wail or sobs of some unlucky bastard that just lost a 10 page paper were pretty gruesome and common. That experience made me swear off Macs.

    13. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, good for Milton. Perhaps comparing Ellen to other high school students would have been more appropriate?

    14. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by punkass · · Score: 2

      Actually, I interpretted it as she lost the three pages she had typed so far, and had to retype them. The actually paper that she completed on the powerbook probably ended up being longer (after revision and what not).

      --
      "Nobody owns the fucking words man." - James Dean
    15. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by punkass · · Score: 2

      For it to be released, yeah, she'd have to get her parents to sign a release/contract. She could have shown up, done it, and once it was chosen she could have signed a release.

      --
      "Nobody owns the fucking words man." - James Dean
    16. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by daviddennis · · Score: 2

      The fee is generally paid by the number of times the ad is aired. It's very rarely a flat fee.

      So it's likely that she didn't know what the total would be. The iPod was probably a signing bonus.

      D

    17. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Espectr0 · · Score: 2

      Anyone noticed that in one place she says she lost just 3 pages and in other she says she lost the whole thing?

    18. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2
      She was later picked for the Switch ad by pure chance and happy (?) coincidence. Apple asks her to write the "letter" to share the story behind her switch.

      I read the article for once, and nothing in it supports your statement. She said that the guy (I was better at retaining information when I was younger) said that they could do commercials, she didn't say why. From the material provided it is entirely possible that all three of them had lost homework due to a crappy wintel PC which was probably from compaq and so the problem wasn't windows' fault anyway.

      All of you are speculating wildly in the absence of additional information, thus making it still more important that we get an Ellen Feiss slashdot interview. However since that is currently more or less the same as getting a Natalie Portman interview in terms of the questions which will be asked, if she has a clue and it is offered she will turn it down.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    19. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by soulsteal · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it was only 3 pages long. She's only 15 you know.

    20. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 1

      From the material provided it is entirely possible that all three of them had lost homework due to a crappy wintel PC which was probably from compaq and so the problem wasn't windows' fault anyway.

      I don't think the advert even mentions Windows. So far as I can see Apple is competing with PC manufacturers in general and is trying to suggest that their product has advantages over PC systems in general, in this instance reliability. Macs may not actually be more reliable, I haven't used one in years so I don't know, but in using that as a selling point I think it's relevant whether the (perceived) deficiencies of the PCs arise from Windows.

      Apple has an advantage in product differentiation since there products seem erm... more different :) because their main competitors have a fragmented common brand ("the PC") that they can attack but other than that any PC manufacturer could use a similar campaign to suggest that people should switch from other brands to theirs, whether they use Windows or not.

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    21. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 1

      ermmm "think it's relevant" should be "don't think it's relevant", of course.

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    22. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by drinkypoo · · Score: 2
      I don't think the advert even mentions Windows.

      Uh, it's a "Switch" ad. It's all about switching from Windows to MacOS.

      Macs may not actually be more reliable, I haven't used one in years so I don't know, but in using that as a selling point I think it's relevant whether the (perceived) deficiencies of the PCs arise from Windows.

      Well the Mac hardware has always been top-notch in its market. It has pretty much always (with the notable exception of performas and similar) been a better-built computer, though with a slower processor. The only time it had as much CPU as the competition was the amiga, which had pretty much identical levels of horsepower, but with all the custom chipping, emulating a mac on the Amiga actually run faster than the mac itself, given the same CPU. IIci has a 25MHz 68030, for example, so did my Amiga 2500, but rumors are (I never bothered) that the emulation was faster than a real IIci.

      The IIci is a great example of the quality of their old school hardware. First of all it's got 8 30 pin SIMM slots, which is about as many as any intel board from the same era (I know there are a few with more, but they are fairly rare.) It's got a cache slot, supposedly adding cache speeds things up by 50-100%; It's got three nubus slots, which is a pretty good bus with autoconfiguration, and a great connector. It uses SCSI, and though it only supports Fast SCSI-II, that was par for the course at the time. The power supply was basically an ATX supply with the connector on the bottom; Obviously the pinout is different from modern ATX, which didn't exist, but it's the same idea, and a similar connector. The power supply was not bolted in; It was held down by the case lid and it simply slides down and connects to the system board. The whole case is like this, as was typical for Macs.

      Well 2000 has come and gone and Macs are still built more or less like that, they're a little more ATXish but obviously they aren't ATX or apple could make a mint selling cases (both bondi blue and graphite) to PC users. The slots are on the wrong side. As far as I can tell their manufacturing quality is top notch, the systems have the features people really want like IEEE1394.

      And of course Apple retains their largest advantage, which is that they control both hardware and software. All the Unix vendors have been doing this for years which gives a big bonus in stability. I haven't tried solaris x86 in a while (they never even sent me the solaris 8 CD they were supposed to, and now solaris x86 is commercial-only again, they can stuff it anyway since linux kicks its ass on x86 nine ways from sunday) but last time I tried (2.5.1) it was super-unstable. Solaris is normally very robust and reliable, because Sun controls the hardware. They know exactly what is going on. Apple has (and has literally always had, since its conception) this advantage and they have always made good use of it.

      Unfortunately every version of MacOS prior to 10 was a piece of crap. Most of them didn't even use the MMU for addressing. Once they did, they still didn't use it for memory protection, which we know (and have long known) to be essentially mandatory for any kind of reliable computing environment in which you have more than one process, especially if those processes are written by different programmers :) The last MacOS worth using prior to X (IMO) was 6.0.7 which had no major bugs that I'm aware of and didn't try to do too much. Of course, the multifinder was pretty crappy, you were better off single-tasking on that OS. I did a lot of multitasking anyway, and crashed it quite a bit on... A IIci :)

      Anyway to illustrate the quality of Apple hardware; I still have that IIci which my mom bought new when it was its time, and used up until about a year ago. During that time I increased the hard drive space and juggled various SCSI peripherals, and added memory, and it ran pagemaker and illustrator (!) for her pretty reliably over the years with 40mb ram and never more than ~4gb disk.

      Now I use it for netbsd, though I haven't actually turned it on in a while, I'm waiting for native boot. It's not like I need it for anything. I got the cache card, but I haven't done any benchmarks on it. The machine has only gone down when I took it down. It's a great little box. Also, consider that my first Unix system was a Sun 3/260, a 12 slot SunVME deskside case. It featured a 68020 at 25MHz; That's right, a generation behind the chip in the IIci and at the same speed. The difference really is that SunVME features a dedicated memory bus on the first... six? slots. I think it's six. So the memory is on big cards instead of being on SIMMs. That probably hurts performance instead of helping it :)

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    23. Re:Lies! Damned lies!! by welshsocialist · · Score: 1

      I love to know how she got the dough for the TiBook. If she had a minimum wage job (the current wage is $5.15 USD) and wanted the high end TiBook (which is 2,999 USD, according to Apple), it would have taken her 582 years to save up the cash...

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  33. The funniest part of the interview by MarkGriz · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?"
    "Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives..."

    What's that sound? Ah yes, the sound of 1000 slashdotters being stabbed through the heart.
    Well, at least Natalie Portman still loves you.

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    1. Re:The funniest part of the interview by hype7 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you feel any connection to the Dell dude?
      No, none whatsoever. That guy's a doofus. I get a lot of "What if you guys had kids?" And I'm like, "What if we had kids?" Why would you ask that? What a weird question. They'd probably be blond.

      I had to clean my screen after reading that comment - I laughed so hard saliva went everywhere

      -- james

    2. Re:The funniest part of the interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had to clean my screen after reading that comment - I laughed so hard saliva went everywhere

      I thought that you had to clean your screen because
      it was so dirty that you saw her as a brunette... >:-E

      __
      Theo

  34. T-Shirts? by silvaran · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you OK with all the Web sites, and people walking around wearing your face on their T-shirts?
    Oh, whatever, I think it's kind of funny. These people don't have lives.

    That's it, I'm taking this T-shirt off. And you can have my mug back.

  35. Re:A "brown" student? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was quite puzzled as well and came to the same conclusion....

  36. Try As I Might... by BlackBolt · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just can't get into the swing of the whole "Ellen Feiss" thing. I've invested WAAAY too much time, money, and effort into the "Natalie Portman/Hot Grits" movement to switch now.

    Natalie Portman Forever!!! (*waves pennant feebly*)

    BlackBolt

    1. Re:Try As I Might... by ellem · · Score: 1

      Dude Natalie Portman is so _old_

      It's like digging your Mom...

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    2. Re:Try As I Might... by Natalie's+Hot+Grits · · Score: 1, Troll

      I'm with you man... this chick isn't even hot. I don't see what is the big deal, especially since she uses a fucking POS mac. get real.

      NOTE: NATB (not a troll, bitches)

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    3. Re:Try As I Might... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hah! I've been around /. long enough to have been through the "Mae Ling Mak/Naked and Petrified" era.

    4. Re:Try As I Might... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps if you imagine Ellen Feiss *WITH* Natalie Portman....well, I think we'd have to wait a couple of years for that film (at least here in the US).

    5. Re:Try As I Might... by verch · · Score: 5, Funny

      I used to like Natalie Portman, and I spent all this time stalking her, but then like, she was like, beep beep beep, restraining order. And I was like all like man, that like sucked, I was a really good stalker and stuff. So then I like switched like to Ellen.

      Ellen, Stalk Different

    6. Re:Try As I Might... by Alex+Thorpe · · Score: 1

      Old? Natalie is 20. She's probably got a fake ID for bars. If she's old, I'm a senior citizen at 31.

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    7. Re:Try As I Might... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See Ellen is 16 so Natalie... oh nevermind

  37. It's NT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't pat yourself on the back yet, the reason it went down so fast was because it's an NT server. Look at the .asp!

  38. Who cares? by ellisDtrails · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'm sorry but the whole Apple / counter-culture / cult of personality thing is weird, paradoxical, and dysfunctional. Weird because any shitstain of a marketing event brings out the droves in a hive-mind fervor not seen since the Cultural Revolution (1970's China). Paradoxical because it is paid for and driven by self-interested advertising and technology millionaires that present an image that the company is driven by anything but. And dysfunctional because it continues the cycle of keeping people who would otherwise use free technologies spending away, year after year, and now attempts to suck even Grandma and Aunt Bee into the fold. In short (and I say this a bit tounge-in-cheek), it seems the Apple community has no class consciousness.

  39. That everyone hates PCs? by loggia · · Score: 4, Funny

    What does that tell you?

    That everyone hates their PC?

    1. Re:That everyone hates PCs? by RzUpAnmsCwrds · · Score: 2

      "That everyone hates their PC?"

      I don't. Your statement is incorrect.

  40. Hey! by HoldmyCauls · · Score: 1

    She's, like, going to be traumatized about this forever, like.

    Hey! I will *not* have you ridiculing my future wife!

    For that matter, the following are also off-limits:

    Natalie Portman
    Jena Malone
    Leelee Sobieski
    Amy Smart

    I will update this list as I see fit. Thank you for your kindness.

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    1. Re:Hey! by CoolVibe · · Score: 2
      Well, since Ellen feiss is a little too young for us past-20 old gitty folk...

      What about Kirsten Dunst? Can we ridicule her? I dunno... I have something with redheads, dyed or not.

      She looked pretty hot in Spiderman though....

    2. Re:Hey! by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 4, Funny

      She looked pretty hot in Spiderman though....

      Yeah, her nipples were like two stacks of dimes....

      Don't mind me. Too much Benadryl...

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  41. Re:Full Interview text by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any idea what the MTV show would be about?
    No, he has no idea. He just said he liked the ads and said I was a cute kid.


    Porn.

    (As soon as she reaches the age of consent..)

  42. I dont think (5cre: 4, Informitive) by voudras · · Score: 1

    as slashdotted as it would seem they have specifically restricted the number of possible accesses.

    I've always see the slashdot effect as literally bringing a system to its knees, here we're just being turned away at the door.

  43. Yeah by autocracy · · Score: 1
    I was expecting something a little more... it was kind of like... (wait for it)

    A bummer...

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  44. did she ever hear of "autosave"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She says she lost 3 pages of her paper. Word autosaves every 10 minutes by default. I know when I was her age, I would sure as hell not be writing a page every 3 minutes. Perhaps she should have used vi or emacs and had the temp file always saved. I haven't tried OS X, but previous Mac OS implementations have had apps crash often enough (I administered 70 of them a few jobs ago).

    What's Linux' "switch" campaign going to be? RMS talking about the wonders of Open Source while John Lenin's (sic) "Imagine" plays in the background?

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    1. Re:did she ever hear of "autosave"? by Peyna · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd say it's highly likely she could type 3 pages in 10 minutes; however, chances are if you're typing that fast you're doing it off the cuff and it isn't that good anyway, so the second time around after the crash might be a better version anyway.

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    2. Re:did she ever hear of "autosave"? by sqlrob · · Score: 1

      From the way she describes it, I'd call it an HD crash. Autosave every freaking second isn't going to help there.

      Of course, a Mac wouldn't have helped in that case either.

    3. Re:did she ever hear of "autosave"? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2
      She hadn't heard of autosave, which is why she needs to use macs and not PCs. MacOS is famous for doing things for you, remember?

      I believe in the "save early, save often" theory. Hell I even ^A^C to save my slashdot comments since this site is so fucking obnoxious about throwing them away and then reloading the page when I hit the back button so the form is cleared... thanks, slashdot!

      Of course, I didn't learn until about the fifteenth time I typed a page or so of text in less than two minutes. And it was, like, a bummer.

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    4. Re:did she ever hear of "autosave"? by Peyna · · Score: 2

      You should be able to just hit 'refresh' at the 2 minute warning page and tell it to resend the form data. Works fine with Mozilla and IE.

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    5. Re:did she ever hear of "autosave"? by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2
      Of course, I didn't learn until about the fifteenth time I typed a page or so of text in less than two minutes. And it was, like, a bummer.

      The clipboard is your friend.

  45. Mirrored by grub · · Score: 3, Funny


    Brown Daily: Good morning Ellen.
    Ellen Feiss: yo mannnn...
    BD: How was your time working with Apple?
    EF: Do you.. like.. have any crack?
    BD: umm..
    EF: Apple gave me crack.. it was.. like.. really good crack.
    BD: Let's talk about your upbringing.
    EF: It was.. like.. gone..
    BD: Your upbringing was "gone"?
    EF: nooooo.. the crack at Apple.. it was like.. really good crack..
    BD: OK, well then let's talk about Apple. Did you meet Steve Jobs?
    EF: It was really.. good crack.


    [the above story is fictional..]

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    1. Re:Mirrored by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      my beer came out of my nose!!

    2. Re:Mirrored by the+COW+OF+DOOM+(tm) · · Score: 4, Funny

      ahahhahhahahhaha IT IS SOOO FUNNY BECUZ U SED "CRACK" LIEK 6 TIEMS!!!!! CRAK IS GAURNETEEED 2 BE FUNNI!!~! LOLOL!!!!

      stuff like this makes me punch kittens.

    3. Re:Mirrored by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      better than you punching the clown, again.

  46. YHBT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cocksmoocher.

    1. Re:YHBT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So I was on slashdot, composing the greatest troll in the world, and the post comment form was like "slow down cowboy", "invalid formkeys", "you're using too many caps, it's like yelling", "lameness filter encountered, post aborted", and I was like "hunhhhhh?"
      And then when I hit the back key to try to repost my whole troll was gone.


      And it was... like.... a bummer.


      I'm A. Troll, and I /switched to kuro5hin.

    2. Re:YHBT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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  47. Drugs are bad mmmkay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The screen going beserk and flashing is typical of some GOOD SHIT MAN!

  48. shutdown -h now by davmoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I quote from the interview:

    ""We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there."

    So I get the impression from this that the ad was made up. Didn't the majority of y'all just finish trashing Microsoft for doing that a few weeks ago?

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    1. Re:shutdown -h now by terraformer · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Is the story you told true?
      Oh yeah, it's definitely true.
      No it was not made up. It is just that easy to find people who have Windows horror stories.

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    2. Re:shutdown -h now by stratjakt · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      It's just that easy to find Mac horror stories too.

      A friend of mine who runs (or trys to) a web design business does most of his artsy-fartsy crap on his mac.

      And it crashed. No hardware problem, just one day it stopped booting, and he lost everything that hadn't been burned to CD.

      You can find 'horror stories' about any damn platform that exists, has existed, or will exist. Thats why this campaign is such a load of crap.

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    3. Re:shutdown -h now by Mononoke · · Score: 1
      No hardware problem,
      Bullshit.
      just one day it stopped booting,
      So, just replace the motherboard battery. Easy to do.
      and he lost everything that hadn't been burned to CD.
      So, he doesn't have a friend that could move the harddrive to a new machine to save the work? Must not have been worth much.

      Nevermind the battery. Sounds like a drive crash. Damn Macs; How dare they use hard drives!

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    4. Re:shutdown -h now by KirkH · · Score: 0

      Also from the interview:

      "Is the story you told true?

      Oh yeah, it's definitely true."

      So you're impression is wrong.

    5. Re:shutdown -h now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You missed his point: It's just that easy to find Mac horror stories too.

      I've been admin to both PC and Macs and find they have almost exactly the same problems (this was before OSX and Y2K).

    6. Re:shutdown -h now by veddermatic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Get 1000 Mac users and 1000 Winblows users together in the same room. Ask people to raise thier hands when you ask questions like "Have you ever had to reinstall the OS?" and "Has your computer ever suddenly crashed for no apparent reason?"

      Yes, there will be people on both sides of the aisle that raise hands, as Mac OS isn't perfect either... but I can gurantee you that the folks on the Windows side will have sore arms well before the Mac users do.

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    7. Re:shutdown -h now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, there will be people on both sides of the aisle that raise hands, as Mac OS isn't perfect either... but I can gurantee you that the folks on the Windows side will have sore arms well before the Mac users do.

      That's because the PC users see their computer as a computer, and not a lifestyle choice that they need to defend and justify the extra cost, so they won't be lying to protect Lord Jobs like the Mac users will.

    8. Re:shutdown -h now by Rimbo · · Score: 2

      Like the girl said -- if you read the interview -- she didn't make the story up.

      The reason it's believable that she did NOT make the story up is because so many of us have had that same experience on a PC, and because so many Mac users made the switch for similar reasons long, long before the "Switch" campaign began.

      Granted, the hardcore Mactivists don't like the campaign, because they like feeling like they're members of an ultra-elite club, and that somehow suffering through the abortions of the pre-Steve-Jobs-Returns years makes them better than all of these nouveau macintosh types they suddenly see around them.

      One of the more brilliant features of this campaign is that Apple doesn't have to work hard -- AT ALL -- to find people who switched for good reasons. They probably could just go find anyone who owns a Mac, ask them, "Why do you use it?" and as long as the person isn't one of the rabid single-mouse-button-humping set, they'll probably find someone who used to use Windows, and is now a very happy Mac user.

      Disclaimer: I'm not a Mac user and have no affiliation with Apple or anything.

    9. Re:shutdown -h now by spruce · · Score: 1

      And be sure to ask them if it was XP, and what version of a Mac OS. My roomate has an imac running OS 8.6, which is obviously dated, but crashes like people claim Windows does. It often goes back to that Set up you Mac screen with the crappy music playing. And he's had to use his system restore CD once already.

      And try this. Do the same test you used, but instead ask the questions "How many of you have not been able to accomplish a task with software the way you wanted to."

      There will be hands on both sides, but I guarantee you there will be more on Mac users.

    10. Re:shutdown -h now by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 1

      And try this. Do the same test you used, but instead ask the questions "How many of you have not been able to accomplish a task with software the way you wanted to."

      There will be hands on both sides, but I guarantee you there will be more on Mac users.


      That would tend to suggest that the PC users would include a greater number of people who'd never tried to push the limits of what they'd already been told how to do. Realistically, anyone who's tried to do much with a computer is going to have been unable to accomplish some task with software in the way that they wanted to (probably true of pretty much any other device as well).

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  49. She's not the one. by duckpoopy · · Score: 1

    Give me that Janie Porche anyday.

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    1. Re:She's not the one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, it's like, you know, I'd do'm both like, whatever man.

    2. Re:She's not the one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm with you.. She's a cutie

    3. Re:She's not the one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I personally think the Japanese chick is hotter than Ellen Feiss, Janie Porche, AND Natalie Portman!

    4. Re:She's not the one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't mean to burst your bubble, but Janie lives her in San Antonio (not Austin)...and let me just share the same thought everyone here had when they saw her commerical:

      "WHAT THE HELL DID THEY DO TO HER?!?"

      Makeup, film angles, editing works wonders so it seems.

  50. She Seems OK... by mcflaherty · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I mean, she seems to take this rather well. Were I a 15 year old girl who just wandered onto a set and told a story, and then discovered that there were thousands of rabid slashdotters drooling over me, Natalie Portman, and hot grits... Well maybe that Benadryll might start to come in handy.

    I hope she gets an acting career. When everyone forgets this is where she started, it will be fun to burst the bubble of some fan boy. (Sort of like Alanis Morissette and "You Can't Do That On Television")

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  51. She's traumatized? by xyote · · Score: 1

    What about the poor slashdotted server? I think there's a whole consulting industry built up now for dealing with slashdot victims.

  52. Apple "switch" campaign... by LordYUK · · Score: 4, Insightful

    PA said it best about these stupid people and their stupid commercials.

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    1. Re:Apple "switch" campaign... by TomHandy · · Score: 1
      Would be funnier if there was even one Apple switch ad that featured a so-called "elitist" Apple user. As it is, it's a stupid and ignorant parody based on the false stereotype of elitist Apple users, just about the same level as all the other stupid parodies of the switch campaign based on the false stereotype that all Mac users are idiots.

      -Tom

    2. Re:Apple "switch" campaign... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ignorant bigot.

    3. Re:Apple "switch" campaign... by spruce · · Score: 1

      Actually, a lot of people do think the commercials have a bit of elitisim in them. My roomate has a Mac and he hates the switch campaign for that reason. I personally would like to punch the bitch in the "I saved Christmas" one, and the dude "Get out of your windows world" is annoying as well.

  53. FOX TROT!! by autojive · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know when you've become a geek icon when you've become a reference in Fox Trot

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    1. Re:FOX TROT!! by mjolnir_ · · Score: 1



      all your feiss are belong to us!

    2. Re:FOX TROT!! by Myco · · Score: 2
      Oh no you didn't!

      Alright, so be it.

      1. Ellen Feiss
      2. Huuuunh????????
      3. Profit!
      Now look what you've made me do. I feel so dirty.
  54. You people are pathetic. by mns · · Score: 0, Troll

    First off, your precious slashdot isn't the only site on earth to link to the Brown University school newspaper for this article, and it's certainly not the first. Even Wired beat you to the punch. Don't be so quick to assume that the 403 you see has anything to do with you.

    Secondly, I see by the intellectual level of commentary here that, as usual, you are all a bunch of retards. Between people repurposing quotes from an advertisement made months ago, and people claiming that Ellen is "lying" about whether or not she was using pot at the time of filming, I can't help but wonder WHY THE FUCK YOU ALL AREN'T DOING SOMETHING MORE PRODUCTIVE, like, say, WORKING right now. Oh yeah, I forgot, it's slashdot. Fucking hell. Don't you all have stuffed penguins to fuck or something?

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    1. Re:You people are pathetic. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Even Wired beat you to the punch. Don't be so quick to assume that the 403 you see has anything to do with you.

      You must be new here huh. They call it the "Slashdot effect" right?? Not the "Wired Effect". We've been launching legal DOS attacks since 1999. Get with the times buddy.

    2. Re:You people are pathetic. by mns · · Score: 0

      They call it the "Slashdot effect" right??

      Incorrect. YOU call it the slashdot effect. Outside this insular world you get your "news" from, no one knows or cares. Reread what the fuck I wrote, bitch.

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    3. Re:You people are pathetic. by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Funny

      WHY THE FUCK YOU ALL AREN'T DOING SOMETHING MORE PRODUCTIVE, like, say, WORKING right now

      After you? Or do you work as Slashdot Troll Master?

      Don't you all have stuffed penguins to fuck or something?

      No, it's much more funny to let them drink until they pass out.

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  55. Don't get the wrong idea by ekrout · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    It's fun to joke about marijuana use, but the joke may be on you if you ever try to get a nice job some day.

    I have an on-site interview with a top defense contractor here in the U.S. in two weeks, and it concludes with a comprehensive drug test. If I was a user of marijuana (and I have never tried the stuff), I would most definitely fail the test, even if trying some method of flushing the drugs out of my system.

    It may seem cruel to any drug users here, but the bottom line is that no one trusts a druggie. Glazed-over, bloodshot eyes are not the kind of things that the United States government reps want to start into while signing a $5 billion contract for a new anti-missile defense system.

    I'm a lucky guy in that I have been able to withstand peer pressure and remain drug-free.

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    1. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How nice for you, dick...

      There will always be a few who toe the line, no matter how absurd and misinformed that line may be...

    2. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello President Bush. How is everything with Iraq going?

    3. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm. FYI, I think you are exaggerating the contractor's ability to test for pot use. I have a "friend" who smoked daily for years, but now he works for a defense contractor because he was able to stay clean for a couple months before he took the test. No big deal.

    4. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a conditioned idiot if you think that peer pressure is the only reason to do drugs. What about fun? Adventure? Excitement? (ok, a jedi craves not these things...)

      Point is, *some* people don't want/need jobs that require the level of certainty that drug tests can be used for. Furthermore, many companies use drug tests for reasons other than trust (can we say liability? Lawsuit? Privacy?).

      For some, drugs make a wonderful enhancement to their lifestyle. For others, drug use is a destructive influence in their lifestyle. There is no *right* answer about drugs, and (wait for it)

      drug usage != immorality

      So get off your high horse, dude. When I fooled around with the stuff, it wasn't on account of peer pressure. It was a more basic emotion. Curiosity. Is that such a bad thing, then? Curiosity?

    5. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by kuiken · · Score: 1

      euh Marijuana is only tracable for about 14 days.
      I know lots of ppl who took drug tests for their job and passed.
      Didnt mean they didnt smoke pot, just means they where smart enough to stop for a few weeks.

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    6. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      There's no test in existance which will detect that you smoked some dirt weed when you were 15, or will find those bong hits you did in college.

      Piss tests require anywhere between a few days and a few weeks clean, depending on how much you smoke, and hair tests require a few months. Go remove the stick from your ass.

    7. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yea, and that's why the FBI has loosened their outlook on people that have used marijuana in the past.

      and yes, that tidbit of knowledge came from two directors of the FBI offices out in chicago, that I had an interview with back in 1998. the reason I say two is b/c the one was retiring with the other assuming his position. I was lucky enough to talk to them b/c my uncle is an ex-fed (although he still does contract work for them, and im sure he still does do assignments for them as well)

      and yea, im leaving names out, if you do research I'm sure you can figure out about whom I am talking.

    8. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dork.

    9. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh heh. It's obvious you know little about "comprehensive" drug tests. There's only one test that goes back into your drug history (if you have one): hair follicle analysis

      Anything else can be beat, and most companies don't do them because they're very expensive.



      I suppose if you were interviewing for a high enough level position, a clearance would justify a hair analysis but I digress...why would anyone think of working for some war-mongering defense company as a "nice job"?



      I'd rather work for a software company (or even a state gov't, heh heh), write some good code, and go home smoking a fat bowl...yeah, maybe the job is only 60K/yr, but isn't that good enough for most people?



      People with your air of "superiority" frustrate me greatly.


    10. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one trusts a druggie

      Wrong. For certain types of low and midlevel jobs, pot smokers specifically are great employees. You wouldn't believe how many stoners babysit NOCs at night. Many of them fit the following stereotype:

      Mellow and predictable.

      Loyal, once they figure out they have a "cool boss".

      Idealistic, with a strong sense of morality, meaning they generally won't steal from or sabotage the company - if you treat them right.

      They have an (unfairly) diminished market value, so they tend to stay for a long time and work hard to keep their job.

      I would never encourage anyone to smoke pot - I think it leads to a less fulfulling life than you could otherwise have - but it's unfair to trash these people. It really does take all types.

    11. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2

      Defense contractor? Let's see how long you think that's a "nice" job. You'll be burning an ounce a week by your second month.

    12. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget that drugs are a big topic of interest when it comes time for a security clearance background check. You'd be suprised of the names from your past that can come up during the process.

    13. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Drug tests are often easily bypassed. Just don't give them *your* urine sample (like in Gattaca).

    14. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow. Seeing how uptight that post was, I'm sure you've never smoked before. Oh, and btw, you're right: flushing drugs out of your system doesn't work well. And neither does masking them (you can just test for the mask). But holding them in your system works perfectly well. I (and many of my friends) have bought GHF (we get it at GNC). One works at a powerplant as a government contractor. A cousin works _for the government_. And it's not just for weed, either...

      Do a bit more research next time. They work.

    15. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To quote Pres. Bush: "...cocane, marijuana, I don't talk about things I did as a child." Thats an actual quote.

    16. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've been a stanch non-drug user for as long as I can remember. However after reading your post, and how lame your life has become, to the point where you'd be willing to work for the government to kill innocent people, and see that as a good thing, I think I'll go get some LSD tabs pronto.

    17. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Snardly+Dinkerton · · Score: 1

      Who's really on drugs here? People like me who have both tried drugs and recognized their benefits, or.. People like you that a missile defense system will actually work. Thanks for pissing away our tax dollars. -Semper Fi

    18. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by krylan · · Score: 1

      Is this an argument or just an excuse to flaunt your amazing will-power to withstand against peer-pressure?

      For your information there are plenty of "nice jobs" that do NOT drugtest. In fact, more employers are relizing that drug testing potential employees is a waste of company resources.

      1) The ``drug epidemic'' does not pose the huge threat to public health and safety that some many claim.

      2) Currently legal drugs cause more problems than illicit drugs.

      3) Even if it were desirable to address casual drug use as a problem, urinalysis is not the way to do it.

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    19. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      George W. Bush is a drug user, you idiot. Idiot idiot!!!

      I can't emphasize it strongly enough:

      Nothing really matters if you know the right people.

    20. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember kids, if you want to be involved in the creation of new and more horrible weapons, don't do drugs! Those of us who like to help people instead of finding more ways to kill them will continue smoking as much pot as we like.

    21. Re:Don't get the wrong idea by Twirlip+of+the+Mists · · Score: 2

      There's no test in existance which will detect that you smoked some dirt weed when you were 15, or will find those bong hits you did in college.

      A background check will. You have to allow a moderately thorough background check when applying for a Secret clearance, and a brutally comprehensive one for any level above that. At the end of it, they'll be able to tell you where you get your drugs, what kind you buy, how much you pay for it, and what your preferred snack food is during those little "private moments."

      This is A Good Thing. As a taxpayer-- boy, am I ever-- I would not be happy to know that the people entrusted with our national security secrets are going home and burning one after work every night.

      "And now, here's a guy who's a real po-theed. Oh, sorry, that's 'pot head.'"

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  56. If you're wondering why.... by onomatomania · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you're wondering why the Brown Daily Herald (student paper of Brown Univ.) got the scoop on the first Feiss interview, the reason is that someone on its staff was apparently an ex-classmate of hers. She has avoided the media, by her own choice and at Apple's request (they are trying to downplay the pot thing) but she figured that a college newspaper would be sufficiently "under the radar."

    (see also the Wired Article...)

  57. Mirror (no joke) by jtkooch · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mirror here Oh, and YOU'RE WELCOME (sorry, computer guy joke)

  58. Free set food? by tezzery · · Score: 4, Funny

    "We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food."

    Sounds like someone had a hit of the munchies...

    1. Re:Free set food? by Zeebs · · Score: 1

      Speaking as someone whos worked in television, crew of course. Food services rock, at any given time on a film or television set at least half the crew is at the food table. If there is no food table, they area bitching about when they are getting fed. Ok so mabey that doesn't have anything to do with what you said but still, I feel better having said it.(it's only karma right?)

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  59. Memorable Quotes of Ellen Feiss... by Jugalator · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld.""

    "I also got a call from the Farrelly Brothers. They were like, "You know we really like your ad," so they wrote down my name or something."

    "Supposedly, though, my agent is "floating my image," quote unquote. I don't know what the hell that means."

    Kids... :-)

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    1. Re:Memorable Quotes of Ellen Feiss... by dr_dank · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I got shuttled down to New York, and I got VIP seating, and I was like, "Wow, I'm at the Oscars or something," but then I was like, "No, I'm at Macworld.""

      I remember her. She's the one who cheered when Woz got the Best Picture Oscar.

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  60. Misunderstanding.. by grub · · Score: 2, Funny


    When Apple asked Ellen "What do you like? FreeBSD?" Ellen though they said "What do you like? Freebasing?" and hired her on the spot.

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  61. How many times did I get modded down by stratjakt · · Score: 1

    .. for calling the 'switch' ads typical corporate 'testimonials' from paid users?

    >>
    Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?

    I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.
    >>

    I'm sure MSFT wouldn't have to look hard for 'testimonials' for a few bucks and a free xbox, either.

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    1. Re:How many times did I get modded down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How else is a girl supposed to support her habit? Good point about compensated testimonials.

    2. Re:How many times did I get modded down by quacking+duck · · Score: 1
      She was paid for making the commercial. Would you let your image be featured in an commercial for free? I thought not.

      And the payment arrangements were made after the ad was already made. She said in the interview that they had to call her dad to get approval because she was a minor, and he didn't even believe she was going to do it--clearly there was no prior arrangement to do the ad.

      Besides, being paid to say something true doesn't make it less true. The Microsoft "testimonial" was entirely made up and misrepresented to the public.

    3. Re:How many times did I get modded down by Beebos · · Score: 1

      It is most likely for legal reason that they have to pay her. The fact that she is compensated makes it legally clear that she agreed to do the commercial and she expects that they will use her likeness in advertising. She traded the rite to use her image for some cash and an iPod. I would be very surpised if less than 99.99999% of all people who appear in adds were compensated.

  62. ellen feiss nude!!! by atari2600 · · Score: 0, Troll

    I know i posted this before - i fink i am gonna post this everytime, ellenFeiss is talked about on /. - shes not purty dammit - trust me - i'm one of those rare geeks. Anyway here goes
    Check this out (only for adults) Shes nude here

    Please...please dont slashdot the server (:

  63. How news worthy is this? by corvi42 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Amazing how so much airtime & newspaper column space can be devoted to such stuff. How newsworthy is this really?

    "Area girl friends with TV director's son, gets part in ad!"

    Does this sound like an Onion article?

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    1. Re:How news worthy is this? by Ageless · · Score: 2

      It appeals to the masses. People think this chick is super cool and want to know more about her. Why not?

    2. Re:How news worthy is this? by redwoodtree · · Score: 1

      Ellen is awesome, this story made my day, I love it!

      Better than another story on wireless networking ::snore::

  64. Her highschool buds by A+Swing+Dancing+Dork · · Score: 1

    It's one thing to dupe your parents, but if this chick thinks we are going to believe shes not a stoner, she must be on dope. Just check out the photo. http://primeous.homestead.com/files/bondgirl2.jpg

    1. Re:Her highschool buds by Kierthos · · Score: 2, Funny

      "It's one thing to dupe your parents, but if this chick thinks we are going to believe shes not a stoner, she must be on dope. Just check out the photo. http://primeous.homestead.com/files/bondgirl2.jpg"

      So, I was like making a really bad photo edit of Ellen Feiss, and then my computer went beepbeepbeepbeepbeep, and then I lost it. The computer devoured my really bad photo edit. So I had to start completely over, and I was rushed, and it wasn't as good. Which is saying a lot, 'cause the first one was crap.

      Kierthos

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    2. Re:Her highschool buds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That picture (on the left) is not of ellen feiss, nor anyone she knows. It happens to be of a geek-girl (who will remain anonymous (well sorta)) who was dolled up for her brothers wedding (if i recall correctly) and made a pouty face to a shitty digital camera.

      The picture was made in jest by people she is friends with and trusts. I hope you are just some random person who got that off of images.google.com, and not someone who should know better.

  65. Ellen's Parodies by telstar · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Ellen's Parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, funny stuff above ... mod up.

    2. Re:Ellen's Parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people have way too much time on their hands...

    3. Re:Ellen's Parodies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn...those really suck. I'm sorry I wasted part of my life reading them.

    4. Re:Ellen's Parodies by WhaDaYaKnow · · Score: 1

      I know it's completely off-topic, but you could have at least warned for that other page they link to. It's at least an order of magnitud funnier. :)

  66. Not sick, not in the slightest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd like to point something out.
    The normal adult human male (as shown by psychological studies) finds females to be in their _peak_ of attractiveness from the ages of 14 to 24. This is normal human sexuality for adult males to be attracted to teenage girls - males find teens more attractive than 30somethings.

    The condition by the name of "Paedophillia" means being primarily attracted to pre-puberlessant children. This means under 12s; pre-puberlessants. A normal human male of any age is going to be capable of finding a 14 year old girl (and perhaps younger) both physically and mentally attractive.

    It was considered in 19th century England that no normal woman could enjoy / want sex, and any one that did was perverted and immoral. Victorian England had great negative associations with sexuality in general. In the paedophile-hysteria of the last decade and half, people in English-speaking countries have falsely come to associate any attraction to under-18s as being 'sick'. If this is so, then just about everybody is sick. Of course, an inidividual's sexuality sits on a spectrum in regards to age just as it does to hetro/homosexuality, but more 40year old guys are going to be able to find this 15 year old Ellen Feiss attractive than ones who are not.

    What I think is morally suspect is the righteous spouting from people who don't bother to carefully consider the truthfulness in their view of the world....

    1. Re:Not sick, not in the slightest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not a paedophile and would never hurt children, and you?

    2. Re:Not sick, not in the slightest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what I like about high school girls. I get older, they stay the same age....

  67. Is that it? by gidds · · Score: 1
    Thanks for the link. I'm in the UK, so I've missed out on the switcher ads, and didn't understand all this huge fuss about her.

    And now I've seen the ad, I'm still completely non-plussed!

    She's just a student, talking to camera. Admittedly, she's not bad looking. And she may reinforce a few of our stereotypes of Americans*. But really, what's all the fuss about?

    (* This isn't ignorant prejudice, BTW - I've just got back from two weeks in California, so I know the stereotypes are true :)

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    1. Re:Is that it? by Mononoke · · Score: 1
      (* This isn't ignorant prejudice, BTW - I've just got back from two weeks in California, so I know the stereotypes are true :)
      California is not a reasonable sample of America.

      California is where America sends all of its Ellens.

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    2. Re:Is that it? by agentkhaki · · Score: 1

      Using Californians as proof for your theories on what all Americans are like is equivalent to using McDonald's as proof that any food cooked outside of the home is garbage.

      You're taking a select, non-representative set of the population. 'Nuff said.

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    3. Re:Is that it? by bwalling · · Score: 2

      I'm in the UK, so I've missed out on the switcher ads, and didn't understand all this huge fuss about her.

      According to the interview, they held a lookalike contest for her in Holland. She seems to be bigger than the US. I've seen the ad, and I don't really get it. Of course, I don't get NSync or Britney Spears - maybe you have to be 15 to get it.

    4. Re:Is that it? by sammy+baby · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is precisely because she reinforces stereotypes about Americans (Californians, in particular) that we find her fascinating. Specifically, it's the vacant, listless, "I'm drugged to the gills" manner of speech she exhibited in the ad that made us laugh at her. She was just such an unlikely choice for a spokesperson - sincere, but not particularly articulate, her wit possibly dulled by the use of chemicals - that we couldn't help but celebrate her.

      Plus, as it turns out, she was on drugs in that interview. Even if it was just an over-the-counter antihistimine.

    5. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And beside, you're British. How the fuck could you tell?

      :w

    6. Re:Is that it? by gidds · · Score: 1
      She was just such an unlikely choice for a spokesperson... that we couldn't help but celebrate her.

      Looks like Apple's marketing bods have you guys all sussed, then!

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    7. Re:Is that it? by gidds · · Score: 1

      ...which is exactly why I used a smiley!

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    8. Re:Is that it? by Safety+Cap · · Score: 1
      Shut up! You're letting out all of our secrets!!!!!!
      California is the only place to visit, if you must.
      And if you must, visit these in order
      1. San Fran
      2. LA
      3. Sequoia National Forest
      4. Yosemite
      5. New York City (which should be annexed to Cali)
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    9. Re:Is that it? by eht · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      you can have new york city, the rest of new york doesn't want it, it's a huge drain on taxes, we wish jersey would take it as most of the people who work in nyc that don't live there, instead live in jersey

      and you can't pay me to visit california

    10. Re:Is that it? by MrEd · · Score: 3, Funny

      And for those who've had just a few American stereotypes too many, you can indulge in John's switch to Canada, eh?

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    11. Re:Is that it? by abischof · · Score: 2
      And now I've seen the ad, I'm still completely non-plussed!
      So, you're in a state of bewilderment after seeing the ad? (Kidding aside, many people are unaware of the actual meaning of "nonplussed")
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    12. Re:Is that it? by DevNova · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here are the pictures taken at the Holland party where everyone dressed up as Ellen. Some people are very scary!

    13. Re:Is that it? by benedict · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe NYC pays more in taxes than it gets in
      spending.

      I sincerely doubt that anyone would attempt to pay
      you to visit California or anywhere else.

      --
      Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems."
    14. Re:Is that it? by gidds · · Score: 1
      Erm, yes, that's exactly it: I'm bewildered by people's reaction, at a loss as to what to think or say about it, perplexed and confused by it. I hope you'll agree I was using the word correctly?! :)

      (I'm not a member of CaRP (the Campaign for Real Pedantry) for nothing, you know!)

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    15. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't judge the US by California. Everyone else hates them and wishes the 'big one' would come along and half the state would slide into the Pacific.

    16. Re:Is that it? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 3, Insightful
      That's the big irony. It's the liberal hot-spots like New York and California that are net payers into the tax pool, and regions like the South and Midwest that are the net beneficiaries.

      The major cities are so much more productive than the outlying regions, it's incredible. Do you (speaking rhetorically to the parent, since I'm echoing rather than criticizing) have any idea just how much work people do in New York and San Francisco and Chicago and LA? It's Republican-voting red-state flyover-country that's nursing on the government teat.

      As far as the original topic goes, don't mistake the insouciant California manner with stupidity. (After all - it was a really good paper.)

    17. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyond who complains about McDonalds is a communist. But it's hardly surprising to find one of those on Slashdot.

    18. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The major cities are so much more productive than the outlying regions, it's incredible.

      Really? How much food do they grow in the major cities???

    19. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      They have the ability to produce thousands of tons of soylent green if they wanted to.

    20. Re:Is that it? by cookd · · Score: 1

      There are only 10 kinds of people in the world--
      Those who understand binary, and those who don't.


      So, like, what happened to the other 7?

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    21. Re:Is that it? by schon · · Score: 1

      California is where America sends all of its Ellens.

      Actually, I don't think it's where you send them, but it is where they end up..

      See, I have a theory that the rotational direction of the earth causes anything that's not well-anchored to drift to the west - including flakes... which explains the large number of them in California and BC.

    22. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speak for yourself and the rest of your inbred "cousins". Now go fix that Camaro, it's been on blocks outside your trailer for a year now.

    23. Re:Is that it? by FireBreathingDog · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Don't forget that a HUGE chunk of the economic activity generated WITHIN cities are the result of suburbanites commuting to them, and working and shopping in them. The tax revenue generated within cities by non-city residents is a large part of the reason why cities are "net payers into the tax pool".

      So, to imply that CITIES==LIBERALS==PROVIDE TAX MONEY whereas EXURBAN==CONSERVATIVES==TAKE TAX MONEY is a completely bogus argument.

      Besides, cities have MUCH higher tax rates anyway. Is this something we all aspire to?

      FYI...I live in NYC, the municipality with the highest total tax burden in the U.S. I pay a sh!tload in taxes. Don't assume that just because much of NYC is liberal doesn't mean that all of its residents are liberal when it comes to tax policy. There are some of us out there who aren't.

    24. Re:Is that it? by PD · · Score: 1

      You misunderstand him. He didn't say 'A' kinds of people in the world, he said '10' kinds of people in the world. Listen up!

    25. Re:Is that it? by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 2

      Think there is any chance of a "big one" extending the gulf of mexico another couple hundred miles? That would take care of the real nasty parts of this country much better than the loss of California?

    26. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The balance sheets don't include enormous subsidies to California such as the 300 billion gallons of water that it has been stealing from Nevada.

    27. Re:Is that it? by epgandalf · · Score: 1

      I really don't see why everyone is so obsessed with an absent-minded PC user who can't even remember to save her work. It's just common sense because you never know if the power is going to suddenly turn off or something else unexpected will happen. I'm not going to switch to a Mac because some airhead couldn't even use a word processor.
      For the record, I've been using a Microsoft OS and word processor for about 10 years and the computer has never eaten my paper.

    28. Re:Is that it? by Safety+Cap · · Score: 2
      So, like, what happened to the other 7?
      What you say!? 7 is NaN. Somebody set us up the bomb.

      Hint -> Convert 00000010 to decimal. Now read the joke again.

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    29. Re:Is that it? by TarPitt · · Score: 1
      and you can't pay me to visit california


      And we don't want you anyway! Life here is much better with you staying where you are.

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    30. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One day you will realize that fat computer geeks are .00001% of the population. Most people would rather say they can talk to the opposite sex than have a 10 year windows party.

    31. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's like using McDonalds as proof that all American cooking sucks. Which isn't far from the truth.

    32. Re:Is that it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That also explains all of America. Could all non-flakes please report back to Europe ASAP :D

    33. Re:Is that it? by noewun · · Score: 1

      Without NYC New York State is another Vermont.

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      I am a believer of momentum and curves.
  68. They Changed It!!! by LorneReams · · Score: 1

    The Ad they are showing with her now is NOT the orginal ad. Does anyone have a copy of it from a couple of months ago to compare? I swear that the pauses and overall "dead" look has been severly edited since it became so famous.

    1. Re:They Changed It!!! by adrew · · Score: 1

      I just compared the ad that I downloaded on August 18th with the current one they're showing.

      They're the same.

    2. Re:They Changed It!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It just /looks/ different to you ...'cuz you were baked the first time you saw it.

  69. linguistic skills of a Klingon? by sdjunky · · Score: 3, Funny

    ghuy'. You dishonor me?!? I will drink the blood from your carcass insolent fool.

    http://www.kli.org/tlh/newwords.html

    1. Re:linguistic skills of a Klingon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ellen thinks you need a life already. Spouting Klingon isn't likely going to change that, dorkimus maximus.

    2. Re:linguistic skills of a Klingon? by duckpoopy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, all the cool kids learn to speak elvish.

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      word.
  70. Ellen Feiss is dying. by grub · · Score: 1, Redundant


    Fact: Ellen Feiss is dying

    We should all keep in mind this simple truth: Ellen Feiss is dying.

    You don't need to be Kreskin to predict Ellen Feiss's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Ellen Feiss faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Ellen Feiss because Ellen Feiss is dying. Things are looking very bad for Ellen Feiss. As many of us are already aware, Ellen Feiss continues to lose brain matter. Open track marks gush a river of blood.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    Famed Apple executive Steve Jobs states that there are 7000 "Ellen Feiss" fan sites on the internet. How many fan sites to Yo-Yo Ma there? Let's see. The number of Ellen Feiss versus Yo-Yo Ma posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 Yo-Yo Ma visitors. Hamilton Morris posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Yo-Yo Ma posts. Therefore there are about 700 stories about Hamilton Morris. A recent article put DJ Qbert at about 80 percent of the scratch music market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 Hamilton Morris follower. This is consistent with the number of DJ Qbert Usenet posts. Due to the troubles of Ellen Feiss, abysmal results on her hair analysis tests and so on, Jentry Poss is nowhere to be found . Now Gautam Godse is also dead,his corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that Ellen Feiss has steadily declined in internet fan sites. Ellen Feiss is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Ellen Feiss is to survive at all it will be among stoners, hobbyists, dabblers, and dilettantes. Ellen Feiss continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Ellen Feiss is dead

    Fact: Ellen Feiss is dying

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    1. Re:Ellen Feiss is dying. by Zeddicus_Z · · Score: 2

      This "BSD is dying" joke gets progressively older and less funny every time someone is lame enough to modify it for $topicAtHand

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      Janie took my gun...
    2. Re:Ellen Feiss is dying. by Myco · · Score: 2

      Get that girl some medical marijuana, STAT!

  71. Blame Apple, not Ellen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Their P.R. department would've made that page - I wouldn't be surprised one bit if Ellen Feiss doesn't even know it exists.

    You can bet they never knew she'd become famous enough for the real story to come out when they put that up though.

  72. Re:Idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow - your ignorance grows with every word you type - please continue!

  73. Re:Give me karma : OBLIGATORY RESPONSE by greenhide · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Dude, you're getting a BOY!"

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    Karma: Chevy Kavalierma.
  74. Ugh. by Zone5 · · Score: 2

    Neither. It wouldn't get past the power switch.

    --
    "So on one hand, honey is an amazingly sophisticated and efficient food source. On the other hand it's bee backwash."
  75. Links have been Slash dotted - too many users.... by Mage99 · · Score: 1

    Cant see the links but I would love to comment!

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    We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit.
  76. In all fairness to the switch ads by f00zbll · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Lately I've been considering switching, but not really because of the ads. More than anything it's the assinine licensing of XP. I recently went through two months of BS dealing with microsoft and their jacked up licensing bs. I'm a heavy computer user and re-install windows at minimum twice a year. This is a format c: drive and completely reinstall clean. Now if I only had 1 computer that would be ok, but I have several as in 5 computers. That means at minimum I re-install windows clean 7 times a year.

    Sure win2K and XP are more stable, but after tons of install/uninstalls of apps and programs the thing starts to seriously slow down and munge itself. Since 95 I've had windows corrupt it's own dll's atleast 2x a year on all the systems. This isn't even counting production boxes at work that have mysteriously killed IIS dll's.

    The thought of having to tech support my Son's computer is beginning to make me throw up. He already has a skill for crashing win2K and XP by pressing down on a half dozen keys for a minute. Toddlers and young children don't know that microsoft didn't design the keyboard as a ladder or piano. All they know is when I push down on all the keys with my palm, the box makes lots of funny noises. I've seen young children bang on mac keyboards without causing it to lock up hard. Sure the ads are stupid, but many people consider themselves computer challenged. If buying a mac means I don't have to re-install windows on my Son's box 5x times a year, I'm there. I rather not waste 4 hours per install, when I could be doing other things more fun.

    1. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by f00zbll · · Score: 1

      I can't be the only person who feels this way about re-installing. Someone else must also go through this BS, please someone else suffer with me :) Otherwise I'll have to shoot myself or stage a protest burning a huge pile of windows XP.

    2. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you are installing windows that much on your sons box, why not make a customer restore cd?

      just a thought.

      (btw, ghost is great for that)

    3. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by Mac+Degger · · Score: 3, Funny

      The answer to your miseries is rather simple: teach your kid to do his own goddamn re-installs! ;)

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      -- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
    4. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by f00zbll · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was thinking when he's old enough to tech support his own system. Until then I think he'll get a mac.

    5. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm... numerous installs and uninstalls... that's your problem. It's not with Windows it's with Windows Software Developers who continue to insist on using the registry but refuse to clean it up when they're done!

      Tell them to roll their own damn preferences databases and stay off the registry! Once that starts happening, Windows will get a whole lot more stable.

    6. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holy jumpin' crap batman... ever heard of Ghost? I re-install a box in 5 min. That's not that I condone the crashes but 4 hrs?!? WTFUWT

    7. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2

      I'm a heavy computer user and re-install windows at minimum twice a year.

      For goodness sakes, WHY? I'm a software developer. I work all day with Windows. I have multiple compilers installed. I use obscure tools that normal users don't need. I'm always installing demos of interesting software. And yet my machine is fast and stable. It hasn't crashed in two years. I've never had to reinstall Windows. My gut feeling is that you're reinstalling Windows for one of two reasons:

      1. It's easier than cleaning up all the junk you've accumulated on your machine.
      2. It's a knee-jerk reaction to any problem, just like defragging your hard drive (which I also never do; it makes no perceptible difference).

    8. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by beleg777 · · Score: 2

      I have to second Junks Jerzeys comment. I work on Win xp, and I haven't had to re-install since I got my machine. My gaming system that ran 200 lasted over a year, and was only changed because I upgraded to 2000. Are you crashing your machine often? I could imagine that leading to you needing to re-install, but it's hard to immagine what you could be doing to crash an XP box regularly.

      But then again, re-installing is much less of a problem for me, since I have access to ghost.

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      Science may someday discover what faith has always known.
    9. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by tres · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm happier using my macs now than I ever was trying to get my PCs to run.

      I mean, the nice thing about a Mac is that it just works. I don't need to waste time trying to figure out why the crap that should work--that was working yesterday--is not working today.

      I've worked with all kinds of OS's--from Debian on a Sparcstation to OpenBSD on my old Pentium laptop. Hell, I administer an NT domain and keep a mid-sized network of production Windows machines up and running. For what it's worth, I've had a little experience getting stuff to run. I'd say that right now, I'm more productive, and less worried about getting my system running right than I have been with any other OS.

      That aside, I think you may be having hardware rather than software related issues. I don't know what's happening to you, but I don't think it's Windows that's to blame. Again, there's plenty of reasons not to like Windows; the poor interface design inherent in Windows, many of the management tools are simply buried, are counter-intuitive, or just don't exist. Windows' popularity is the result of the best marketing in the world, not the best quality.

      Because Microsoft's paramount concern is to get their OS to run hardware from a myriad of vendors, they have put the stability of the overall system second to the marketability of the OS. Albeit, Microsoft has done a pretty good job getting their OS running on lots of different equipment, but the down-side is that they really have no control over the quality of the overall system.

      If you stick with PCs, try a business-class system from Dell, or another commodity vendor that has control of the entire system. For me, I'm extremely happy with my Apples. A few years ago I laughed at Apples. I'd never be caught near an Apple computer. Now, I'd never go back.

      At home, I still have my Mandrake Linux Desktop, my FreeBSD server, my OpenBSD firewall and the wife's token Windows box--I'd never want to get rid of them (except for the hassles of the Win Box)--but I spend more and more time getting things done, learning new things and having fun on my Mac than I ever did trying to get what was working yesterday to work once again. I have enough trouble at work keeping things running right, I don't want to come home to do the same crap.

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      Notes From Under *nix: blas.phemo.us
    10. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by Swaffs · · Score: 2, Funny

      Um, excuse me for a minute, but this is Slashdot. Your post mentions switching away from Windows (good) but fails to mention the word "Linux" once! What gives?

      Oh yeah, and your math's flawed. 5 computers that need reinstalling at a minimum of twice a year means a minimum of 10 reinstalls a year, not 7. Maybe your Calculator needs a reinstall.

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      --
      "Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." - Homer Simpson [1F10]

    11. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like someone needs to take some computer classes. I could see one computer needing that, but all 5? Gimmie a break.

      Do you really think that the rest of the worl has this problem?

    12. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YOU are computer challenged.

      I have a box at home running windows 98. You know when I installed it? 1998. It has crashed a few times (solution? reboot, everything is peachy). I had a windows 3.11 box taht got win95 installed on top of it, then win98 on top of that. It ran great until I unplugged it to scrap it for parts :)

      None of my windows boxes lock up when i push a bunch of keys (actually, i usually drop a coffee cup or notepad on the keyboard and dont notice, I don't generally just mash on the keys)

      At work I have a tandy with win95 on it. Installed in 1995. Now it just acts as a print server, but come on. It's on it's third power supply and on its second NIC,but its still the original installation of windows.

      So if you have to reinstall windows that often, YOU are doing something wrong.

    13. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by eggstasy · · Score: 2

      Are you out of your mind? I do tech support for lusers all the time, and charge like $50 for a simple reinstall and defrag. You wouldnt believe the speed increase. Ppl specifically ask me to go to their houses and "make their PC go faster".
      The amount of cruft an unmaintained windows box can accumulate over time is incredible. The registry bloats to over 10 times its original size and makes booting up go from "instant" to "endless". The unnecessary DLLs and temporary files clog up your memory and disk space in a flash. And then there's spyware.
      Even if I tell ppl that they just need to run this and that proggy once in a while, they never do it. They'd rather pay me $50 (and thats a lot in a poor country like mine) to do something as simple as reinstalling and defragging... you just have no idea how dumb some ppl are, do you?
      I imagine it will have a lesser impact on modern boxes, but most ppl around here think a P3-500 is a GOOD computer...

    14. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by bergee · · Score: 1

      This isn't even counting production boxes at work that have mysteriously killed IIS dll's.

      Hmmm... I'd call that self defense.

    15. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by spruce · · Score: 1

      Wish I had mod points. I hate to see stuff like the parent post at +5, which is just so much FUD.

      Oh well, that's the cool thing to do around here. Slashdot is like one big Switch ad, it just varies who's being hyped.

    16. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Funny
      All they know is when I push down on all the keys with my palm, the box makes lots of funny noises. I've seen young children bang on mac keyboards without causing it to lock up hard.

      All you have to do is make sure they only mash on the numbers and the shift key, for punctuation. Then your child can win the obfuscated perl contest.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    17. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by eggstasy · · Score: 2

      How to crash an XP box regularly? How about merely attempting to install it?
      When I was installing XP on my gf's PC I had to try like 10 times to get it working (it crashed DURING the installation!) and even then the mean uptime was like 5 minutes. I cant for the life of me understand why the fuck XP reboots the whole box automatically whenever some tiny little error occurs. Apparently you can disable that behaviour in the administrative options, a friend tells me, but with an uptime of minutes I didnt mess around with it a whole lot.
      I had lots of trouble on my box too. Hardly anyone had XP drivers for their hardware when it was launched and some even announced they werent planning on making them. I had to buy a new modem to get XP to run! Motorola claimed their win2k drivers worked in XP. BULLSHIT! Installing the drivers on a clean XP would give me another one of those marvelous insta-reboots. After a few tries I did get them to install but then I got the same wonderful 5 minutes uptime. I ended up putting 98 back on both boxes but have now migrated to win2k. Aside from some weird incompatibility problems now and then (quake2 refuses to install) it works fine and is very stable (for a microsoft product that is). I never loved linux as much as I did after trying out Windows XP. I did the "stick-to-Linux-for-a-month" thing and it was OK, though neither Mozilla and Opera worked with the silly javascript menus in Archspace, and having gotten addicted to it I went back to 'doze. I'm now planning on giving Linux another shot, though, I'm using Moz under 'doze and it works wonderfully. The browser that is. The mailer refuses to send any mail, though it receives fine :|

    18. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by unspec · · Score: 1
      "I rather not waste 4 hours per install, when I could be doing other things more fun."

      Off topic, but haven't you tried Symantec Ghost?

      It is perfect for this kind of "support".

    19. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by m1a1 · · Score: 1

      I think XP must just work poorly with certain hardware. It is my only explanation. It has always been stable for me, but my brothers computer crashes on it all the time off of a clean install. Linux however seems to run fine. I have no idea what causes these problems, but it has to be related to XP and his specific hardware. Same install works fine on my comp.

      I guess what I am trying to say is that it IS possible for XP to be unstable. I have no idea why.

    20. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by runderwo · · Score: 2

      Um, I doubt his son is a customer of his. If he is, that's just sad. Unless his son is 30, that is.

    21. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by f00zbll · · Score: 1
      1. It's easier than cleaning up all the junk you've accumulated on your machine. 2. It's a knee-jerk reaction to any problem, just like defragging your hard drive (which I also never do; it makes no perceptible difference). Actually it's because the machine locks up and crashes. As in, it will go BSOD. I'm a bit of a nut and install/uninstall lots of servers, apps and other stuff. The last time I had to reinstall win2K, the system would lock up after running for 5 hours. I've had a variety of prebuilt and self built systems. Prebuilt include small shop custom deal and gateway. I also tend to have at minimum 3HD in my systems. I've managed to kills either the powersource fan or CPU in fan in five systems. My workstation which used to have 2 P3 450 cpu, 3 HD, and DVD has had 3 CPU fan replacement. The Powersource was replaced once with a 450watt dual fan power source.

      I must just have bad luck, but I tend to buy high end components like high end tyan and asus motherboards.

    22. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by uberjon · · Score: 1

      I just burnt a huge pile of windows XP cd's tonight

      Are my friends not lucky? ;-)

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      Dick Laurent is dead.
    23. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by f00zbll · · Score: 1
      Wish I had mod points. I hate to see stuff like the parent post at +5, which is just so much FUD

      I don't know the moderator and didn't ask to get modded up. I wish it was fud. Next time I loose 4 hours of sleep during the week day and have to wake up at 5am to go to work, I'll be sure to call you up. Better yet, you can come fix my damn windows box. I have one other friend who has the same problems, but since he switched to linux those problems have disappeared. Just because your system doesn't commit suicide, it doesn't others don't. I know plenty of windows admins who go through this kind of re-install nightmare. So unless you have solid proof all of us who have to re-install are smoking crack, I'd say you're full of it.

    24. Re:In all fairness to the switch ads by Junks+Jerzey · · Score: 2

      Are you out of your mind? I do tech support for lusers all the time, and charge like $50 for a simple reinstall and defrag. You wouldnt believe the speed increase.

      We're talking about different things. You're talking about people with all kinds of spyware and nutty stuff installed, like RealPlayer and those "weather on your desktop" things and so on. Sure, it's probably easier to reinstall than to manually remove all that trash. But if you keep your machine relatively clean, then defragging rarely buys you anything, unless maybe you've got a very old and slow hard drive and you're doing something extremely disk intensive, like compiling gcc from sources.

  77. Hint: Why you got modded down by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never talk about a $50,000+ job on a blog where 75% of members are unemployed. :)

  78. Get the wrong idea??? THEN DON'T FUCKING SAY IT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah?? Well fuck you too buddy! I like my drugs and I don't trust your shitty military OK! I've worked for those people and they're money grabbing scum. They don't care about the cost of anything or their salaries, "business trips" cos' it's all payed for by good ol' Joe Taxpayer. They'd sell guns to babies and anthrax to Iraq... hey... they sactually did that one....

    You're not lucky cos' you stayed drug free. You're LUCKY if you made your own mind up. So did I.... and I like drugs.... and I trust stoners. They've usually thought about stuff far harder than your average pleb. They have to. It's easier than moving....

  79. What's good for Unix is good for Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    because you will never be able to run Mac OS on your x86 box, and Linux/BSD will be the only way to bring UNIXy goodness to those machines. Working on Mac command lines makes people more familiar with tcsh/bash, so people who start Linux from Mac OS X won't NEED as much handholding.

  80. And don't forget the food... by Hayzeus · · Score: 2
    She said she showed up in the first place for the "free set food".

    So Benadryl gives you the munchies?

    1. Re:And don't forget the food... by Lars+T. · · Score: 2

      No, free food gives you the munchies. All you can eat means you eat more than you actually can.

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      Lars T.

      To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck

    2. Re:And don't forget the food... by stickyc · · Score: 2

      She said she showed up in the first place for the "free set food".
      So Benadryl gives you the munchies?


      No offense, but you haven't spent much time around 15 year-olds. Stoned or not, they'll jump through an amazing number of hoops to get free food. Especially if it's donuts and Snickers, which is what's typically found on commercial shoots.

  81. Really, really pathetic by NineNine · · Score: 3, Funny

    I find it really, really pathetic that people are obsessing about a person in a commercial. JEsus, fetishizing commercials? For a group of people that are anti-big company, anti-commercial softweare, it's pretty damn hypocritical that a person who shows up in a fucking corporate commercial is being obsessed over. It's a commercial. Ignore it. Get on with your lives. Jesus, talk about commercialism gone rampant. Geeks hate commercialsm from big company X, but eat it up if it's from big company Y. That's like saying "I hate those nasty, big, soul-killing companies like Wal-Mart. But have you seent hat new K-Mart ad? It's so cool!"

    1. Re:Really, really pathetic by sporty · · Score: 2

      Dude.. let people have their fun. :) It's fun to talk about.

      Like 1. Steal Hotgrits, 2. ???, 3. Natalie Portman.

      Just like the "guy walks into a bar.. "

      "a baby seal walks into a club..."

      It's just.. funny 'cause it is :) Let us act like children while we can.. sooner or later, we'll be dead.

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      ping -f 255.255.255.255 # if only

    2. Re:Really, really pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it really, really pathetic that people are obsessing about a person in a commercial.

      No, what's pathetic is the stoners who think her strung-out look justifies their own high-as-a-kite crap.

      They're all like "look! She's stoned on TV! That must mean we can legalize pot!"

      Sorta like this:

      1) Stoned Fleiss on TV.
      2) ???
      3) Legal pot!

    3. Re:Really, really pathetic by Contact · · Score: 3, Funny
      It's a commercial. Ignore it. Get on with your lives.

      Am I the only person who finds it rather amusingly ironic that you have an ad in your .sig?

    4. Re:Really, really pathetic by Randolpho · · Score: 1

      Heh... I too, noticed that. No karma for this post tho. :(

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      "Times have not become more violent. They have just become more televised."
      -Marilyn Manson
    5. Re:Really, really pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it really, really pathetic that people are obsessing about a person in a porno. JEsus, fetishizing porn? For a group of people that are anti-big company, anti-exploitation, it's pretty damn hypocritical that a person who shows up in a fucking porno is being obsessed over. It's a porno. Ignore it. Get on with your lives. Jesus, talk about porn gone rampant. Geeks hate porn from big company X, but eat it up if it's from big company Y. That's like saying "I hate those nasty, big, soul-killing cunts like I see on autopr0n. But have you seent hat new NineNine chick? She's so fucking hot!"

  82. Slashot Interview Anyone? by bje2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can we please get a slashdot interview with her, so we can ask some questions????

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    "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
    1. Re:Slashot Interview Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think, like, she already like said all she has to like say.

    2. Re:Slashot Interview Anyone? by GiorgioG · · Score: 2, Funny

      Who wants spoilers?! I have spoilers! You want to hear a spoiler! Ok here it goes... You will die alone.

    3. Re:Slashot Interview Anyone? by bje2 · · Score: 2

      ha, not sure how that was relevant here...but still a good reference to the funniest ever triumph the insult comic dog sketch on conan...

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      "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
    4. Re:Slashot Interview Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Can we please get a slashdot interview with her, so we can ask some questions????

      Yeah like what her shirt says

    5. Re:Slashot Interview Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Naw, I think we can pass.

  83. She's really not that hot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is it all nerds, geeks, dwarfs, and the like see in her? She's annoying, not hot, and well... wait... she uses a comupter? Makes sense.

  84. Something to worry about... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If Apple ever has 90% market share -- hell, if Apple ever has 50% market share -- you'll have something to worry about.

    Yes, and that thing is the apocalypse.

    "And the Lamb clicked on the seventh seal, and it just went beep, beep, beep..."

  85. Re:Mirror by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I'm at work, too...

    Don't worry, you just saved another guy's job (by getting yourself fired yourself...)

  86. I mourn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    ...for the quality of education in American schools.

    like, really.

    1. Re:I mourn... by Cinematique · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, that's what happens when people stop caring about their local school districts. When parents aren't involved, the whole system goes to shiat.

      Funny, some people think nothing of dropping $500 for a new nVidia card, but cringe at the thought of paying for a school levy.

      Now that is the true pitty. /me puts ear to the ground
      Oh crap!$@%#$ It's an offtopic-mod stampede!

    2. Re:I mourn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they would if they felt that it would make a difference. as it is now, any increase will certainly be mismanaged and wasted. end high school and college level athletic programs (keep the pe and intramural stuff though...everyone needs to participate in that)

    3. Re:I mourn... by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 2

      Why, so puny geeks like you don't have to feel wimpy compared to the big jocks who get all the girls?

      --
      Mac OS X and Windows XP working side by side to fight back the night.
    4. Re:I mourn... by kingLatency · · Score: 1

      This isn't the result of public schooling either. She goes to a fancy-shmancy private school... Cambridge School of Weston.

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      "I've got to stop masturbating! It makes me too lazy! Stop it, Albert. Stop it." -- Albert Einstein
    5. Re:I mourn... by dumbArtMajor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Jesus, were you EVER a teenager? Did you EVER use slang that old people didn't approve of? Who the fuck cares how many times she says "like" in the interview or how she talks?

      My sister is in high school, talks EXACTLY like this girl, and has a 4.79 GPA. Just because the interviewer decided to keep all the slang and "likes" and "uhhs" in the transcription doesn't mean the American School System Is Going To Shit. It only means this girl hasn't taken her Public Speaking course yet. She seems pretty intelligent, mature, and courteous to her international detractors for a 15-year-old.

      Besides, do you think maybe, possibly, the interviewer transcribed it that way for **effect**? It was done this way so people like you could look at it, shake your head gravely, and make some witty remark on Slashdot about That Stoner Chick.

      Take the stick out of your Anonymous Coward ass and quit looking down your nose at someone none of us have met.

    6. Re:I mourn... by IndependentVik · · Score: 1

      Amen, brutha. Someone mod this up! This chick has most definitely not gotten a fair shake at this site. Probably b/c she's *gasp* a girl, and we all know how dumb _they_ are. I saw this same attitude when I was getting my CS degree. If a girl was halfway attractive then no one took her seriously--it didn't matter how smart she was. You'd think geeks would be a little more enlightened . . .

      Oh, and if this were a teenage guy of comparable intellect who talked like teenage guys talk then no one would have a problem with this.

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    7. Re:I mourn... by be-fan · · Score: 2

      I was 15 once (and not that many years ago!) and I never used 'like' every five sentences. I don't think I can remember anybody I knew who did either. There is a difference between using slang older people don't approve of (guilty as charged) and not knowing how to speak properly. Have you read high-school student writing lately? It's phenomenally bad. I'm talking pre-literate Amazon rain-forest civilization bad. The fact that kids speak poorly is just a reflection of the fact, that in general, the language skills of our country are heading down the shitter.

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    8. Re:I mourn... by itwerx · · Score: 1

      Mod parent up!!
      Half the other posts on here should be modded troll or flamebait. Buncha dumb-ass knowitall slashdotters...
      For the record, I'm 30 years old and have never talked that way. Hell I wasn't even educated in the USA!
      But since I actually have been outside of my home town a time or two I understand that different people look/act/talk in different ways depending on their background/age/social status etc. etc.
      Damn, y'all, getta clue...

    9. Re:I mourn... by ichimunki · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Uh, like, your sister has a 4.79 GPA? Have you been into Heidi's Benadryl or what? Even when I got straight A's they only gave me a 4.0, so you might want to investigate this one a bit.

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    10. Re:I mourn... by dumbArtMajor · · Score: 1

      No actually I know what I'm talking about, thanks.

      Her high school is on a 5.0 scale (which means honor and Advanced Placement classes are rated on a 5.0 scale, and "regular" classes are on a 4.0 scale). She's gotten damn near straight A's while taking as many AP and honor classes as possible, but "regular" classes pull down her GPA into the 4's.

      All that while she talks and chews gum at the same time. Not bad for a girl.

    11. Re:I mourn... by mumkin · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ...for the quality of education in American schools

      I don't know, really. If you ignore the proliferation of likes, she seemed otherwise well-spoken. And she used the word "bombard" in a sentence, which absolutely floored me. If anything, her Q rating has gone up in my book :-)

    12. Re:I mourn... by dumbArtMajor · · Score: 1

      ...and you're talking about HEIDI FLIESS, the Hollywood Madame.

      Yeah, you got a 4.0

    13. Re:I mourn... by be-fan · · Score: 2

      I have no problem with her being a girl. I think teenage guys who act like airheads are equally stupid. Unfortunately, our culture tends to have a bias that tells girls it's okay to act like that, which is why the stereotype is associated with girls.

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    14. Re:I mourn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q rating? What's that? How omnipotent you'd be if you were in StarTrek?

      Or did you mean IQ? :)

    15. Re:I mourn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No wonder you never got laid in high school, nerd.

    16. Re:I mourn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know if this is what he meant, but "Q rating" (or "Q factor") is a term in electronics that's short for "quality rating".

    17. Re:I mourn... by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      Yes, I do have a problem with names. Usually I just can't remember them, but I also mix them up a lot-- makes reading Russian novels really painful, too.

      Interesting to hear that there's a school out there that has a bit of an odd grade-point system-- I certainly wasn't meaning to sound as though I were insulting your sister. And I really wasn't trying to insult you either, I was just trying to be funny... and it would have worked if it weren't those damn kids (and their names that sound like other names)! My original theory was that you had made a typo... under a normal grade-point system a 3.79 is still nothing to sneeze at.

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    18. Re:I mourn... by ksuMacGyver · · Score: 0

      Uh, a GPA of 4.79??? The max GPA (if you get a solid A in everything...in my school, you had to get 100% in everything, no extra credit) is 4.0 What kind of loony school is that? Is their max GPA 10?

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    19. Re:I mourn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop acting like you know everything. Obviously the school has advanced placement and honors classes, which usually raise the gpa significantly. For example, at my high school, for every ap class we take, we get an extra 1.0 added onto our gpa, and for every honors, 0.5.

      In response to the parent post, just because your sister has a 4.78 doesn't mean she's smart. She could go to a school where its really easy to get A's. I think most people would agree that the public education system is failing, and needs major reform

  87. Sum of all fears... by augros · · Score: 5, Funny

    There must be nothing scarier than being stalked by the Mac community ...

    1. Re:Sum of all fears... by Tack · · Score: 2
      There must be nothing scarier than being stalked by the Mac community ...

      How about being stalked by the slashdot community.

      Jason.

  88. Re:Give me karma : OBLIGATORY RESPONSE by Mr_Dyqik · · Score: 2

    Go vaguely scottish

    "Dude, your getting a gel!"

  89. Cute? by Beli · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Personally I think Momoko Kokikuchi is much cuter!

    1. Re:Cute? by KH · · Score: 2, Interesting

      She says her name is ``Kikuchi Momoko,'' and some other links at Apple says so, too. Funny thing is that there was an aidoru called ``Kikuchi Momoko'' in the '80s. And it looks like her name is exactly the same as the celebrity, even up to the Kanji characters. (I saw it at apple.co.jp)

      I don't like her ad because she looks like acting. And the story is a bad attempt of mimicking Ellen story. The Japanese don't talk that way.

  90. Who? by fire-eyes · · Score: 3, Funny

    Right.

    Who?

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  91. Yea, Ellen is hot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but what about Janie Porche?

    http://www.apple.com/switch/ads/janieporche.html

  92. +1 insightful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Funny in a sad way as well.

    I'll take the stoner teen, thanks.

  93. And i'm like by motox · · Score: 1

    How much does slashdot get from Apple ? :)

  94. Compensation by KecCu · · Score: 1

    Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all? I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever. Reminds me of billg once in an interview, saying he didn't started up ms for the money, just for the fun of it ... Yeah, rrrrrrright.

  95. Ellen? How about Janie?!? by Quixotic+Raindrop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Guys. If you're going to be a lam0, and stalk a switcher, Ellen is a dead end. And, too young for even the high-schoolers among you.

    Instead, I recommend Janie Porche. She's literate and smiles. A lot. Much easier to deal with, in the long run. Trust me on this one.

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    1. Re:Ellen? How about Janie?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but somehow I get the feeling that Janie can't point me at a fat sack.

    2. Re:Ellen? How about Janie?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad she's a carpet muncher.
      so the slashbots strikes out again.

    3. Re:Ellen? How about Janie?!? by Stormie · · Score: 3, Funny

      Instead, I recommend Janie Porche. She's literate and smiles.

      However, she once cheered after reading a Jon Katz article, and thus is clearly incompatible with most Slashdotters.

  96. There's your proof by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that she was high.

    I'm friends with the son of the director, Errol Morris. I'm friends with his son Hamilton. I went with him after school, him and two of my friends.

    Translation: Errol's son Hamilton, Ellen, and two other friends just scored some chronic and had burned a fatty after school.

    We didn't think we were going to make ads; we were just going to get the free set food.

    Uh huh.

    Free food.

    At 10 p.m.

    So we go there, and they're like, "We need a couple more people, so I guess the three of you can make ads." So we all made ads, and me and Hamilton's got picked. I had no idea I was going to do it until I got there.

    Translation: They were stoned and had no idea anything was happening at the studio except the buffet.

    Dude.

  97. Great... by BitwizeGHC · · Score: 2

    Just when you'd seen enough of Natalie Portman and Heidi Wall...

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  98. Ok, someone please explain by quantax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am rather interested to know what thousands of people are so obsessed by Ellen Feis when all she did was pretty much act like a stupid teenager with a computer. Maybe its just me, but acting like an ignorent teen with a computer who says 'like' and is pretty much completely average overall (according to her performance) is not really something I aspire to. Is there some detail I am missing. I don't watch TV (but have seen the ad online), and this looked like standard 'stupid advertisement' with some decent writing. Honestly, the way people are obsessed by her is disturbing; I, like any geek, look up to certain people, but I have never been obsessed by someone to this degree, and especially just because they emulated dumb teen. Can anyone rationally explain this phenominon(sp)?

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    1. Re:Ok, someone please explain by Ageless · · Score: 5, Funny

      Let me explain in hex...
      B00B5

    2. Re:Ok, someone please explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not entirely. That's part one. For part two, let's pretend there's a special version of hex with a "W" in it:

      W33D

    3. Re:Ok, someone please explain by benedict · · Score: 2

      It's just a collective crush, dude. No mystery here.

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    4. Re:Ok, someone please explain by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

      I think it's because the ad is so stupid, it's funny. Many people I know (myself included) Mac, windows, Linux users, doesn't matter, feel that the Apple switch ads are REALLY stupid. Part of the problem with them is that most of them, at least teh first ones, featured a bunch of whiny malcontents who are the kind of people that most people don't even want to talk to much less be associated with. The think different campaign tried to paint this picture of great free thinkers and revolutionaries as Mac users whereas the switch ads showed whiny people that were too dumb to use a computer as Mac users.

      At any rate, most of the ads I find just annoying, but the EF one is so silly, that I laughed. She really DOES look stoned and out of it and you just have to laugh that Apple would want to associate that with their brand. Well, for many people, when you see an ad like that it makes you want to do some kind of parody, and lost of that of done on the internet. Some are really funny, this then creates more intrest and so on.

      I think it probably also helps that out of the first group of switch ads, she was the only person that wasn't a total eyesore.

    5. Re:Ok, someone please explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      B002E B00B5 & A55E5!

    6. Re:Ok, someone please explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or octal... 7175?

    7. Re:Ok, someone please explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude. That was weak!

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  100. +5 INSIGHTFUL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This interview and the Hamilton Morris video clip put it all together.

    You hit the nail on the head, congratulations.

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  102. Which is better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Ellen Feiss

    or

    Olsen Twins?

    1. Re:Which is better by Inthewire · · Score: 1

      Sex with a mare

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  103. Ellen's Next Job? by dmoynihan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Pitchbabe for Dayquil--"and I was going to a commercial, but my head on the cold medications was like, beep, beep, beep so my speech went zoink--it would have been a good commercial."

  104. Beeping and liking. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just like twenty five beeps on the comments on Slashdot like so far. Should i like count the likes.. yes i should, it's gonna be like fun. But should i leave my beeps and likes out of like the equation like? Three-hundred-six likes.. that's like a lot of likes. And left like all my likes and beeps like out of the like and beep list. This might be like the most beepy and likey Slashdot comments gallery. *BANG*

  105. is there video on Kazza yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    " I went with him after school, him and two of my friends. "

    group and all!! this might be as good as the britney one?

  106. a (late off the mark) mirror by cetan · · Score: 1

    Here's a mirror of the article. Missing a bunch of the graphics as I was only able to catch the page briefly

    http://home.attbi.com/~bernhard36/ellen-feiss-inte rview.html

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  107. re: your sig by Dave_bsr · · Score: 2, Offtopic
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  108. Foxtrot. by bleckywelcky · · Score: 3, Funny


    Reminded me of Foxtrot:

    Link

  109. Hello Kettle?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Do you feel any connection to the Dell dude? No, none whatsoever. That guy's a doofus. ... They'd probably be blond."

  110. Adopt Apple's HI guidelines for Linux by kitzilla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a bit off-topic for an Ellen Feiss thread, couldn't agree more regarding Linux's tendency toward Windows look-alike interfaces. This would apply to both the desktop and the way applications work.

    I understand why Linux developers look to Windows. It's a familiar environment for most users. But I think we don't give users enough credit: provide them a well thought-out, consistent, attractive interface, and they'll do well. Of these three atrributes, consistency is the key.

    The cool thing about the Mac interface is that everything works the same. No matter what you're running, you'll know where to find things. Windows behave consistently from app to app. Once you've spent a couple hours on a Mac, it's a BETTER pointy-clicky interface than Windows.

    Mac developers design their interfaces with the Macintosh Human Interface guidelines in mind. I wish there were something similar in the Linux world:

    http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/mac/HIGuidel in es/HIGuidelines-2.html

    Ah, yes: we must maintain our choices. No consistent interface for us. Long live the Revolution.

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    1. Re:Adopt Apple's HI guidelines for Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geez, how often this link needs to be posted:

      http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/

    2. Re:Adopt Apple's HI guidelines for Linux by Tassach · · Score: 2

      The reason all the Linux desktop developers try to emulate Windows is that the ones who've tried to emulate MacOS have been sued into oblivion by Apple.

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    3. Re:Adopt Apple's HI guidelines for Linux by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2
      Oh please.

      1) No, not all Linux UIs look like Windows. Check out this for an ironic screenshot - that's RedHat 8 in GNOME2. GNOME doesn't really look much like anything else, yet is still usable. If you want something a bit more far out, try Enlightenment or Ion (no windows for them). You might think that is ugly, but whatever floats your boat you know? Clearly they liked it that way.

      2) Macs are not easy to use for newbies. I wish more people would realise this. Pretty much all newbies on Macs I've observed have had big problems, because they are used to Windows. Note: these are newbies using other peoples Macs, not people who have bought them, so they are under less psychological pressure to adapt. They have problems with the mouse, the keyboard, the "closing window doesn't quit app" issue and more. Macs have high internal consistency, which means once you've got used to its quirks and habits, those quirks tend to stay the same.

      3) There are Linux HIG guidelines, the GNOME project created them but they are available for everyone to use. A lot of development software (non gnome software) is starting to use them, for instance xchat and gaim CVS are both partially compliant. Expect to see more in future.

      4) Apple themselves blatantly ignore their own HIG. The whole brushed-metal justification was inserted into the HIG after 10.2 was shipped, with pathetically weak guidance - "something that resembles a real world object". The number of contradictions in Apples own software is phenomenal with respect to this.

      Ah, yes: we must maintain our choices. No consistent interface for us. Long live the Revolution.

      That's like claiming all cars should have manual gearboxes, or they should all be automatics, because that way they are consistant. Oh yeah, make sure they're all identically sized as well. Multiple user interfaces increase usability, because instead of people adapting their own habits to fit the machine, the machine can be adapted to fit theirs.

    4. Re:Adopt Apple's HI guidelines for Linux by singularity · · Score: 2

      There is a fundamental difference between "working like" and "looking and feeling like".

      Apple has sued anyone that makes themes that copy the MacOS "look and feel."

      The original poster, on the other hand, is talking about the consistent feel between MacOS applications. I know all of the keyboard commands in MacOS because they are the same in every application.

      You do not have to copy Mac's look and feel, you can make your own, but *all* applications neext to follow those consistent guidelines.

      There are some guidelines for Linux applications (I think that Gnome is trying to get some together), but it is not where it should be just yet. And, of course, more applications need to follow them.

      obTopic: Apple is nice in that they are showing real people (no "Portrayal" disclaimer at the bottom of the ads). Ellen, for better or worse,is a reason person who made the switch.

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    5. Re:Adopt Apple's HI guidelines for Linux by trotski · · Score: 2

      I don't know, I mean I for one prefer the Windows/Linux GUI to the mac GUI... single mouse button :P.

      To be fair though, KDE and Gnome are more moddled after CDE than anything. In all probability, Windows is also modeled after CDE, since the current incarnation of the windows GUI was first released well after CDE is up and running on HP unix machines and others.

      Point is, Linux is in all probability following a unix gui trend rather than blindly copying wondows.

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    6. Re:Adopt Apple's HI guidelines for Linux by WatertonMan · · Score: 3, Informative

      How many times does this need to be stated? Macs support multiple mouse buttons. I'd never use a single button on my Mac. I use right button for the context menu and the scroll button to scroll windows. What is different is that on the Mac you have a choice. On Windows many applications require the context menu. And on Linux there is typically little rhyme nor reason for how the buttons work. (Yes Gnome and KDE are improving consistency - but that is still my #1 compaint while using X11 apps)

    7. Re:Adopt Apple's HI guidelines for Linux by kitzilla · · Score: 2

      I appreciate your comments.

      > That's like claiming all cars should have manual gearboxes, or they should all be automatics, because that way they are consistant. Oh yeah, make sure they're all identically sized as well. Multiple user interfaces increase usability...

      Okay, let's look at HI guidelines in view of your car analogy. HI guidelines don't dictate whether or not you choose standard or automatic transmission. But if you choose an automatic, you'll select "D" to make the car forward, not "G" for "Go" or "F" for "Forward." If you choose a standard, you can assume the gears will be arranged in the familiar "H" pattern. That'll be the clutch peadal on the far left, not the break. And if you buy the car in North America, you know you'll get in the left side to drive it.

      Color selection--leather or cloth seating--it's all up to you, just like configuring your desktop or skinning your apps.

      By the way, I agree with you on Apple's odd application of the brushed-metal theme. I used Unsanity's Metalizer haxie to unskin several of the metal apps. At least, though, they didn't rearrange the order of the menu bar on metallized programs. The apps still work thec same, which is my point regarding HI guidelines.

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  111. Re:Hot Grits by NaCh0 · · Score: 1

    Pour them down your pants.

    You will like it.

  112. Mirror (With photos) by marklyon · · Score: 2, Informative
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  113. Supply a mailing address and ye shall receive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Put a mailing address in your profile (journal maybe) and ye shall receive the workaround you need. Think Corporate.

  114. Petition by KoolDude · · Score: 1

    Sign the Ellen Feiss is hot petition ;)

    From the site:
    We, the undersigned, agree that Ellen Feiss, of Apple Computer's "Switch" ad campaign (http://www.apple.com/switch/ads/ellenfeiss.html), is hot. We also agree that we'd like to boink her all night long.

    324 signatures already, let the /. effect begin :)

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  115. who... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who is she and why does everyone want to blow their load in her?

  116. worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Actually, I just got an email from my boss. Uh oh. He wants me to 'work late'!

  117. WHO IS THIS CHICK? by The_Mighty_Squid · · Score: 1

    Besides being part of the Apple ad campaign why does anyone care? Why is this on Slashdot? How is she different than the other change ad people?

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    1. Re:WHO IS THIS CHICK? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's a spoiled rich twat who was famous for like a day, and now she's like nobody.

  118. Why obsess over Ellen Feiss... by mblase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...when we have Janie Porche to obsess over instead?

    1. Re:Why obsess over Ellen Feiss... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got a Chubby for that chubby

    2. Re:Why obsess over Ellen Feiss... by Sacarino · · Score: 1

      What Apple needs to do is a photo shoot with Ellen and Janie. They'd sell a shitload of computers....

      and a lot of hand lotion.

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    3. Re:Why obsess over Ellen Feiss... by TomatoMan · · Score: 2

      Stay away from Janie! She's mine!! MINE, I TELL YOU!!!

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  119. I sense a bit of an inner geek by hardave · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did Apple compensate you for the commercial at all?
    I'm not actually sure how much I got paid because it was in installments, and the whole contract was dealt with by my parents, so I'm not actually sure. Oh, and I got an iPod. It's like the coolest thing ever.


    Only a geek would shrug aside money for an iPod!
    But I guess I've seen stoners fascinated by shiny things though....

  120. Obligatory Ars Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Obligatory Ars Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is one of the FUNNIEST threads I've read in a long time. I recommend everyone check it out!
      I would not "Hit" Ellen. I'd hit Janie though!

  121. Re:Hot Grits by BlackBolt · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Can someone explain the "hot grits" thing?

    This is a common request, so I'll reveal the terrifying answer once and for all:

    THE ORIGIN OF HOT GRITS

    BlackBolt: "Can someone explain the "hot grits" thing?" Let me tell you why you're asking that. You're asking because you know something. What you know you can't explain. But you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is but it's there, like a splinter in your mind driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

    AC: Hot Grits?

    BlackBolt: Do you want to know what they are? Hot Grits are everywhere. They are all around us, even now in this very room. You can see them when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel them when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. They are they when a Natalie Portman Quicktime link is posted on the Front Page of Slashdot and the entire Internet quakes in fear. They are the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

    AC: What truth?

    BlackBolt: That you are a slave, AC. Like everyone else (except RMS, of course) you were born into bondage, born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind.... Slashdot.

    Unfortunately, no one can be told what Hot Grits are. You have to see them for yourself. This is your last chance. After this there is no turning back. You eat the blue grits, the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You eat the red grits, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes... Remember, all I'm offering is the truth, nothing more... Follow me...

    [Later]

    BlackBolt: Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony. A lapful of delicious Hot Grits generate more bio-electricity than a 120-volt battery and over 25,000 BTUs of maple flavor. Combined with a form of fusion, Cowboy Neal has found all the energy Slashdot would ever need to Slashdot entire networks. There are fields, endless fields, where hot grits are no longer born. They are grown. For the longest time I wouldn't believe it, and then I saw the fields with my own eyes. I watched Taco liquefy the dead grits so they could be fed intravenously to the living. And standing there, facing the pure horrifying precision, I came to realize the obviousness of the truth.

    What are Hot Grits? Control.

    Slashdot is a computer generated dream world, powered by Hot Grits, built to keep us under control in order to change a human being into the lowest of lifeforms, a trolling Anonymous Coward.

    AC: No. I don't believe it. It's not possible.

    BlackBolt: I didn't say it would be easy, AC. I just said it would be the truth.

    AC: No. Stop. Let me out. Let me out. I want out.

    BlackBolt: Then you must go see the sexy Oracle, Natalie Portman, and dump hot grits in her lap. And if she gives you a cookie, for god's sake, DON'T EAT IT!

    BlackBolt

  122. Good lord by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only on Slashdot would this not be moderated as either "Funny" or "Troll".

    What a bunch of bullshit! You are using the same line of thinking as Hilary Rosen, you know that right?

    "If a geek uses Mac OS X, that's like a loss for Linux"
    =
    "If a kid downloads an album in MP3, that's like a loss for the record company."

    Besides, is the goal for Linux to "win", or is the goal for a better and better OS?

  123. they left out one question: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have you ever see the back of a twenty dollar bill ON WEED?!!

  124. Re: your sig by invenustus · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hey, those Linux guys are more interesting than you might think....

    --
    grep -ri 'should work' /usr/src/linux | wc -l
  125. In Other News by Zech+Harvey · · Score: 3, Funny


    In a brilliant PR move, Apple has trademarked the word "Like" and is sending cease and desist letters on behalf of their new IP acquisition. The question of prior art has arisen, though the only clear contenders, Moonunit Zappa and "My So Called Life" have yet to respond at the time of this posting. Film at 11.

    --
    Zech Harvey, MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA
  126. Feiss Switch Campaign by nhavar · · Score: 2

    Do we need to start an Ellen Feiss Switch add campaign to migrate the last few Natalie Portman fans over to being Ellen Feiss fans?

    "I kept sending notes and flowers to Natalie but I never got a response. Then one day I got this cease and desist letter and this lawyer said something about a restraining order. That was like totally rude. That was the day I realized Natalie just didn't understand me. That was the day that I found Ellen Feiss on Slashdot. She knew who I was and understood everything about me. She said it like right to me 'these people don't have lives', that was me. We just have so much in common, I don't like that Dell dufus either. "

    "My names Bob, I'm a Slashdot geek. I switched"

    --
    "Do not be swept up in the momentum of mediocrity." - anon
  127. Re:*sigh* by Sacarino · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do you realize what this means?

    For ONCE in the history of /. people actually read the article BEFORE posting.

    Holy shit...

    --
    -- El Sacarino tiene gusto de la chocha
  128. Get Over the Price! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People say apple hardware is too expensive. Hogwash. BMW's are not cheap, are they? That doesn't means lots of people don't buy them...

    And i don't hear anyone saying that a Beamer sucks because look how much that chevy cavalier costs!!

    Only the best for me, Garson

    1. Re:Get Over the Price! by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      The problem is, the hardware isn't the best. Apple's only real advantage is in the software side of things, where they possibly have the best consumer grade OS available right now.

      The comparison is much more apt if you pay BMW prices for that Chevy Cavalier.

      OS-X, however, does not justify the increased HW costs. At least not to me.

    2. Re:Get Over the Price! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      poor people suck

    3. Re:Get Over the Price! by Zathrus · · Score: 1

      Hrm... I'm not even 30 and I have a net worth of around $100k.

      Yeah. I suck.

  129. Ellen Feiss isn't so great... by Wampus+Aurelius · · Score: 1

    ...I'd rather see a "Switch" commercial featuring Morgan Webb. In fact, I'd rather see anything featuring Morgan Webb.

    1. Re:Ellen Feiss isn't so great... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Morgan is a man, sorry to break it to you.

  130. Kiddie pr0n by boy_afraid · · Score: 1

    People getting off on this and being excited must be addicted to kiddie pr0n then. Come on people, she's just a kid, she's no Charliez Theron.

    1. Re:Kiddie pr0n by connorbd · · Score: 2

      She is pretty cute, though. Just needs to lay off the Benadryl. /Brian

    2. Re:Kiddie pr0n by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "CUTE??"

      It's an ugly kike brat!
      Slightly retarded too, it seems.

    3. Re:Kiddie pr0n by Chasing+Amy · · Score: 2

      > People getting off on this and being excited must be addicted to kiddie pr0n then.

      What an insipid and societally brainwashed attitude. A 15 year old is typically in the middle stages of adolescence, and therefore will be sexually attractive to a majority of adult males. Indeed, in the interview she mentions that the Farrelly brothers had some interest in casting her for a film, until they learned that she was only 15--by implication they thought she was older.

      Therefore, physically, what's the difference between a 15 year old Ellen Feiss and an 18 year old it's socially acceptable to find attractive? Nothing. There are *assumed* differences in maturity and intellect which make it socially unacceptable for adults to express sexual attraction towards 15 year olds--though not in all countries and cultures. That does not however mean that the attraction doesn't or shouldn't exist--it does exist, as proven time and again by performing tests on control groups of "average" adult males using penile plethismographs.

      So, don't mistake a social convention for anything more than it is. Psychologically, it is considered normative for adult males to be sexually attracted to mid and late adolescents; pedophilia by definition is a condition which only applies if the adult is primarily attracted to pre-adolescents. Unfortunately, most Americans and some from other Puritanical countries don't even want to acknowledge biological and psychological facts, instead equating normative attraction (notice I said attraction, not taking action on it) with pedophilia or other conditions of abnormality.

      To sum up: Ellen Feiss looks very fuckable, and it's perfectly okay for an adult to admit that. ;-)

      --

      Chasing Amy
      (We all chase Amy...)
      "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus
    4. Re:Kiddie pr0n by The+Original+Yama · · Score: 2

      If that's your planned line of defence, I recommend that you think of another. No judge will buy that. ;)

  131. You sound like a pompous motherfucker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, you may think you are a weed and benedryl expert, but have you ever talked to a fifteen year old girl???? Christ, this is how a lot of them really act. She honestly doesn't sound stoned at all. She sounds fifteen.

    A common thing that allergies cause is red eyes. A common thing to take for allergies like that is benedryl. *You* may never have been hopped up on benedryl before, but do you honestly think that just because it's never happened to you that it can't happen? Even if it were an excuse, why the fuck would she give it as an excuse if benedryl could never have that kind of effect? Doesn't that sound retarded to you?

    And oh my god, a pullover with a hood? When my younger sister was in high school last year, NONE of her friends wore pullovers with hoods. No way! Oh-- well except for the stoners of course. It's not like that is a popular style at all.

    What you wrote would be a dorky, whimsical joke... except it's obvious you're not joking and that you think you are so fucking clever and smart because you are sure she's lying.

    You're wrong. Get over it. And you're an asshole. Work on it.

  132. Don't spoil the illusion! by sheldon · · Score: 2

    This was reported in US News & World Report last summer

    It's advertising... Most things you see in advertising aren't real.

  133. Benadryl makes ME stoned by Interrobang · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe she's like me and has adverse reactions to allergy meds...sometimes I have to take them too, but I don't like to. For the record, I like smoking weed, but Benadryl doesn't make me stoned in a fun way -- or in a functional way. Just ask people who watched me stumble and almost stick my hand under a red-hot stove burner while trying to avoid falling on my face into the stove while on Benadryl...yow!

    Speaking of yow, your sig, dude. Thanks for the "Visualization mode OFF!" moment for today.

  134. Whew by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I had to clean my screen after reading that comment - I laughed so hard saliva went everywhere
    For a second I thought you had thought about the Dell dude and Ellen making the kid. (Good thing you added WHY you had to clean your screen.)
  135. SPOILERS ABOVE by GnomeAttic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please don't post spoilers without indication in the subject line. The interview has not yet been released in zimbabwe, so some of us have not been able to read it yet.

    1. Re:SPOILERS ABOVE by passion · · Score: 2

      omg! he's lone-gunmen'd the feiss article!

      --
      - passion
  136. Japan's own little "Ellen Feiss"-clone? by danalien · · Score: 1

    saw it at apple

    --
    I don't claim I know more than I know, and if you know you know more than I know, then by all means, let me know.
  137. yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's like using that single post you made as proof to the theory that you have a fife foot log up your ass.

    When in fact the log maybe be as long as ten feet.

  138. Slashdot's Karma -1 by xchino · · Score: 2

    You /.'ed Ellen Feiss. Slashdot has brought bad mojo to us all...

    --
    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.
  139. Ellen's no dope by tsackett · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Maybe she says "like" a lot, but she says a number of pretty insightful things.
    I thought if I went on Letterman, it would be like I go on Letterman, and then I go on "Regis and Kelly," and then I go on Channel 5 News, and then it would kind of fizzle out pathetically.

    That's the smartest thing ever said by a temporary celebrity about temporary celebrity.
  140. D'oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Wait is over! D'oh Ellen Feiss's interview is d'oh up! And she really was d'oh on drugs, (well, d'oh allergy meds.)" She's, d'oh, going to be traumatized about this forever, d'oh.

  141. Ellen and Dell Kid by killerz298 · · Score: 1

    Hey guys... I need someone who has no life as well as experience making flash movies to make something funny about Ellen and The dell dude. I unfortuantely only fill one fo the requirements, having no life.... Anyway if anyone does undertake this task, post results here.

  142. That's IT! I've had it! by greenrd · · Score: 5, Funny
    I laughed so hard saliva went everywhere

    That's the last straw. Did we really need to know the destination of your oral fluids???

    I'm now officially declaring a JIHAD on those spawns of satan, Joke Congratulation Posts.

    Jokes? Fine. I've no problem with them. A lot of jokes on slashdot are at least a good attempt at being amusing. But joke congratulation posts? Whether satirical or straight, they just blow goats.

    I'm sorry. I'm now going on a one-man crusade to mark all joke congratulation posts, irrespective of their origin, as -1 Overrated. You may call me sad and pathetic, you may call me strange - but I retort that those who post Joke Congratulation Posts are even sadder!

    1. Re:That's IT! I've had it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hey! Cangratulations! That was a funny joke! Dickhead.

    2. Re:That's IT! I've had it! by Mournblade · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, switch to decaf.

    3. Re:That's IT! I've had it! by Fjord · · Score: 4, Funny

      LOL

      --
      -no broken link
    4. Re:That's IT! I've had it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HA HA!!! I laughed so hard I shot a wad of spooge all over my keyboard. Now you have to come lick it off!

    5. Re:That's IT! I've had it! by AtariEric · · Score: 2, Funny

      And saddest of all? People who risk heart attacks and declare "jihads" on people who try to encourage their fellow human beings.

      What, do you kick pets that meow/bark/etc. for attention as well?

      --
      Don't trust any concentration of power.
    6. Re:That's IT! I've had it! by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 1

      At least he didn't tell us where his other bodily fluids went...

      Like, dude. Like, my computer got covered with saliva and it went beep beep beep, then I said "BEEP BEEP piece of BEEP!". I was, like.... a bummer... Then, like, I had to take some more benadryl... unf?

      --
      Ron Paul 2012
    7. Re:That's IT! I've had it! by ThatComputerGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Wow man, that was awesome! I've never laughed so hard in my life...

      --
      XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
    8. Re:That's IT! I've had it! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only thing more irrelevant and annoying than a Joke Congratulation Post is a Joke Congratulation Exasperation Post.

      (So what does that make this? :)

      BTW, I know how to use the bold and italic tags as well, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm right.

  143. Re:"Bendadryl" my butt QWZX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The house and land are kind of cool, but are you REALLY bragging about 70K a year?? That kind of makes me think that the house and land must be WAY out in the boonies.

  144. hillarious by cosmol · · Score: 1

    That's hillarious. Gee, I'm glad I saw your post before it got modded down. Stupid ass moderators.

  145. bull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only for ripping off the themes with logos and all. There is absolutely nothing stoping linux developers from taking advanted of Apple's years of research into GUI's and their human interface guidlines.

  146. off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple has always been horrible and always will. After nearly 6 years of being obsolite, they finally changed their OS. And it still sucks.

    You think they would have come up with more innovative ideas in that time frame. OSX is nothing else but an excuse so Apple can say 'Yes, we are advanced'. I can still do more on a PC. Apple products will always be designed with the 'computer illiterate' in mind, so therefor will never introduce anything of devine innovation.

    Apple can die.

    1. Re:off topic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "never introduce..."
      GUI
      mouse
      Firewire
      Superdrive
      P lug n' Play
      etc.

      Just because you can't learn anything besides what you originally learned, ie. PC, don't flame what you can't understand.

  147. Re:Hot Grits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > Unfortunately, no one can be told what Hot Grits are. You have to see them for yourself.

    lol!
    thats fucking funny man but pretty long
    i have the attention spam of a bug

    i knew that hot grits were big on /., but i didnt know just how big until i heard the story

    ill take the blue grits please and a hot steamin' helpin' of natalie portman

  148. Dell dude and statutory rape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude, I'm going to jail!

    1. Re:Dell dude and statutory rape by BoneFlower · · Score: 2

      Depends on the state. CT it would be legal or illegal, legal by the age of consent but potentially illegal for damaging the morals of a minor(AOC is 15, the morals law goes away at 16). Several states have an age of consent set at 14 or 15. I believe 14 is the lowest in the US.

  149. All She Wanted Was a Pepsi! by good+soldier+svejk · · Score: 4, Funny


    'She's on drugs.'
    No she's not; she's thinking. Go get her a Pepsi.
    .........


    She's not cazy!
    Institutionalized!

    --
    It is cowardly, and a betrayal of whatever it means to be a Jew, to act as a white man

    -James Baldwin
    1. Re:All She Wanted Was a Pepsi! by Cplus · · Score: 1

      You're the one that's crazy!
      Institutionalized!

      --
      "Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve immortality." -- Dalai Lama
    2. Re:All She Wanted Was a Pepsi! by flacco · · Score: 2

      stick me in an institution
      said it was the only solution
      get the needed professional help
      protect me from the enemy - myself!

      Aw, it doesn't matter, I'll probably get hit by a car anyway.

      --
      pr0n - keeping monitor glass spotless since 1981.
  150. speaking of fetish by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 2

    check the sig

    (yeah, i'm promoting it a lot - stupid eds wouldn't take the story - probably hitting too close to home?...)

    --
    Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
  151. Huh? by nonsuchworks · · Score: 1

    by Apples own admission a few months ago, Linux has nearly double the desktop market share of OS X.

    Evidence, please?

    1. Re:Huh? by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2
      I can't recall exactly when, about 4/5 months ago perhaps, Apple were under pressure from MS to sell more copies of OS X because Office X wasn't recouping costs. Remember that?

      Anyway, at the time, Mac marketshare was about 4% as measured by various independant statistics bodies and (of course ;) Google. At the time, Apple claimed 1 in 10 Mac users had upgraded to OS X. Linux market share was a fraction under 2%. If 1/10ths of the Mac market at 4% had upgraded, that gives a market share for OS X as being 0.4% right? That means that desktop Linux had about 4x the market share of MacOS. Now, I've been generous in the last post and said double, because undoubtably since then as more apps have been ported to OS X and so on more Macs will be running os x than were previously. I'm also assuming Linux hasn't grown in that time at all (unlikely, but we can let it stand for now).

      Hence my original assertion. I hope that satisfies you, I could dig out the actual URLs to Apples figures and such but Slashdot covered it at the time and I'm going out soon.

    2. Re:Huh? by RedWizzard · · Score: 2
      Anyway, at the time, Mac marketshare was about 4% as measured by various independant statistics bodies and (of course ;) Google. At the time, Apple claimed 1 in 10 Mac users had upgraded to OS X. Linux market share was a fraction under 2%. If 1/10ths of the Mac market at 4% had upgraded, that gives a market share for OS X as being 0.4% right?
      And if that other post you linked to is accurate then the Mac OS share is down to around 2% making them very close overall. On the other hand Google's last monthly zeitgeist has Mac at 5% and Linux at 1%.
    3. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot Steve Jobs assertion that 1 in 6 mac users post to mac rumor sites and mac rumor sites had 22,000 posts last year which proves conclusively that the real mike is a BSD troll.

  152. We have a winner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    I lol'd

  153. Whatever. by RatBastard · · Score: 2

    I suffer from sever seasonal allergies. I get bloodshot eyes and suffer from allergy induced stupidity. Most allergy medicines remove the burning eyes, but put me to sleep. The effects are so bad that until I got a perscrition for alegra, I stopped taking the meds at all. Hell, I moved to Alaska to get away from my allergies.

    I'm willing to cut her some slack and beleive her. This isn't Anna Nicole Smith showing up on the Howard Sternm show stoned.

    --
    Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
  154. Re:Give me karma : OBLIGATORY RESPONSE by EvilBudMan · · Score: 1

    "Dude" yer gettin a "Dude" Whoa!

  155. Works for me by DJ+FirBee · · Score: 1

    //Geeks are now starting to get Macs, instead of developing for Linux they're playing with all the cool stuff on their mac. // You are trying to tell me that I like linux more than a Mac with OSX for the desktop ?? Who are you trying to kid ? I have run linux since .93 infomagic dist. No, f'in way that it even compares to OSX on the desktop. I use it for cool routers, great file servers and ftp, nfs, samba ... But for the desktop ? What are you smoking ? OSX smokes linux and the applications you can run on a mac smokes everything I have run. You stick with your crap hardware and KDE. I need to get work done on my desktop.

  156. Opening up a shell by dbrutus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Open the Applications directory
    Open the Utilities directory
    Scroll down and find the Terminal application
    Drag it to your Doc (at bottom) so it's one click away from then on.

    From then on,
    Click on the terminal app in the dock.

    1. Re:Opening up a shell by TI-83 · · Score: 1

      or mouseless-ly...

      command-tab to the finder
      command-n
      command-g, "/Ap[tab]Ut[tab]", press return (completes to "/Applications/Utitlities/")
      type "te"
      type command-o (or command-right arrow)
      *terminal opens*

      osx (jag) is almost completely navigable by keyboard. and command-g (or maybe it's command-shift-g?) in a finder window works just like cd in a shell.

      --
      &&stuff;
  157. Re:[IN SOVIET RUSSIA] No, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see what you mean. How is "Ellen Feiss uses FreeBSD!" Russia-fied? It seems like a normal sentence. Unless FreeBSD is using her as some kind of mascot or something...but I haven't heard about that. If that statement truly is Russia-fied, then the original statement from which it was dervied would be "FreeBSD uses Ellen Feiss." I don't see the connection between FreeBSD and Ellen Feiss...even after reading the karma-whoring article text in the comments. Please explain.

  158. nah- just wouldn't *want* to by ktlyst · · Score: 1

    most people I know who've done the not-anti-social drugs (i.e. not coke or PCP) simply wouldn't want to work for somebody who makes something that kills other people. Now, why would you want to go and make something that kills other people? You know in the bible, god says, "thou shalt not kill," and you'd be surprised how many anti-drug bible-thumpers out there have no problems working in the defense industry and making things that kill people. Now you might say to yourself, but it's for *defense* it's only if people *attack* me. Well did you know about the shoulder-launched missiles?? They were made and sold to go against the EVIL communists and we gave them to people in Afghanistan to shoot down Soviet planes. And now, they might be used by Al Quaida to shoot down civilian planes. So the problem isn't in the intentions, but in the unintended consequences. So if you're going to do this thing, please do all of us a favor, and think about all of the consequences that could happen with the thing you will be making that can kill people. And ask yourself, where did the people who are telling me about this get their information, and where did that information come from, and question everything. On the other hand, missile defense seems like a silly waste of resources, so congrats on landing a boondoggle. I heard they had to use a gps device on the missile to get the defense mechanism to be able to find it in the tests they used to show the president. My request - please don't use your intelligence to make something that could kill people. Please use it to think about how to create civilization such that people don't want to kill each other and also free of coercion.

    1. Re:nah- just wouldn't *want* to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, and now back to reality...

      We live in a messed up world, where other people want to kill US just becacause we're here.

      We need to build things that kill other people...or we're going to get killed ourselves.

      Get some critical thinking skills.

    2. Re:nah- just wouldn't *want* to by Cadre · · Score: 2
      You know in the bible, god says, "thou shalt not kill,"

      Actually a correct translation from Hebrew shows that the commandment (Exodus 20:13) is really "Thou shalt not murder".

      --
      All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
    3. Re:nah- just wouldn't *want* to by Hope+Thelps · · Score: 1

      "Thou shalt not murder".

      With murder being killing that's forbidden of course, making the whole thing rather circular. "Thou shalt not do things which thou shalt not do" would cover it nicely.

      --
      To summarise the summary of the summary: people are a problem. ~ h2g2
    4. Re:nah- just wouldn't *want* to by Cadre · · Score: 2
      With murder being killing that's forbidden of course, making the whole thing rather circular.

      It's not circular. While murder means killing, killing doesn't necessary mean murder. If you kill someone in an act of self defense, it is not murder.

      --
      All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
    5. Re:nah- just wouldn't *want* to by Myco · · Score: 2

      Murder is wrongful killing. I find this to be a very unproblematic definition, and hope you will get as much use out of it as I have.

    6. Re:nah- just wouldn't *want* to by Cadre · · Score: 2
      Murder is wrongful killing.

      It was assumed in my post that people knew the correct definition of murder and/or had a dictionary close by...

      I find this to be a very unproblematic definition, and hope you will get as much use out of it as I have.

      Umm, did you even read my post? It's quite apparent that I know the differences between murder and killing.

      --
      All editorial writers ever do is come down from the hill after the battle is over and shoot the wounded.
    7. Re:nah- just wouldn't *want* to by Myco · · Score: 2

      I was simply offering a clarification of the subset relation. Merely a refinement of your point -- don't be so touchy.

  159. Your a fucking moron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sheesh...

    I've been running the same Windows XP install for nearly a year and a half now. Obviously you or your hardware is the thing fucking it up.

  160. Rational Explanation by tweakt · · Score: 2

    Horny geeks. Cute chic. Need I say more? (Yes I'm aware of her age. It's just a commercial.)

  161. OT: Apple HW pricing by Zathrus · · Score: 1

    As best I could tell (and since I know very little about Apple HW I could very well be wrong), the PowerMacs were the only ones that had additional HD bays as well. That's more important to me than expansion slots.

    As it happens I just bought a new PC (as in, the orders are being processed and the parts should be delivered next week). I'll be using precisely one slot - the AGP slot for video. Everything else (USB 2.0, Firewire, SATA, PATA, sound, network (x2), etc.) is on the motherboard. Sure, onboard sound is crap, but I'm not using good enough headphones or speakers for it to matter.

    I didn't bother with a DVD-RW or DVD-ROM (I have one that I'll move over), but I at least have the expansion capabilities in the case for putting one in. Unless I bought a PowerMac the same wouldn't be true, at least as best I can tell.

    Athlon XP 2100, 512 MB DDR, Nforce2 MB, 80 GB, 48/24/48 CD-RW, and 128 MB GeForce4 4200 for just under $1000. The price/performance compared to an Apple system continues to be staggering. It's why Apple has never succeeded in the general business market or in the home market to any large degree.

    As an aside - can Apples use standard AGP cards, or do they have to have a special BIOS on them? If they could then the system I used as a price comparison falls by about $200 since Apple was wanting $350 for a GF4 Ti4200 (and one that's slower than the one I bought above).

    1. Re:OT: Apple HW pricing by dbrutus · · Score: 2

      From what I understand, the only differences between some pc peripherals and mac ones nowadays is that all mac peripherals have to be compatible with open firmware (IEEE-1275) for that true plug and play feeling.

      To the right of my iMac I have 2 external drives, 1HD and a CD-RW which is the reason that consumer macs don't have extra bays, traditionally they kept their add on drives external. It does make 'moving things over' much easier as it's just plugging it into the firewire port of your new computer. Plus, you get to add more than 4 drives without screwing up the internal case heat load along the way. I believe the firewire device limit is 63 devices in the network.

  162. SHE COULDN'T HAVE WRITTEN THAT LETTER! by wykkyd · · Score: 1

    Not only is it relatively grammatically correct, it does not *once* include the word "like." Maybe she was not under the influence of that hard narcotic Benadryll at the time, but the inconsistency in communication style is TOO great to ignore!

    --
    ... there is no spoon ...
  163. SMOKE EM IF YOU GOT EM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i say it tells you to toke up.

  164. BOWL?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drop that thang!

    GRITS --> PANTS

    Don't forget to tie off the ankles!

  165. Will Linus get a Mac? by Slur · · Score: 2

    Hey, why not? He can test kernels under VirtualPC and still have the benefit of using a decent GUI for a change.

    --
    -- thinkyhead software and media
  166. Kirsten Dunst by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    has little kid teeth.

  167. I'm thinking of switching over to macintosh, if .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ellen Feiss is plug-n-play.

  168. You have some issues... by wykkyd · · Score: 1
    "act like a stupid teenager "

    "acting like an ignorent teen "

    "emulated dumb teen"

    The facts are, she IS a stupid teenager, she IS an ignorant teen, and she IS a dumb teen.

    But now she has an iPod, and if you pretend to be infatuated with her, maybe Apple will send you one too...

    --
    ... there is no spoon ...
  169. Second Petition! by wykkyd · · Score: 3, Funny
    We, the undersigned of the original petition, realize we attested in public to wanting to have sexual intercourse with a minor, not yet of the age of consent, and are now turning ourselves in as pre-convicted pedophiles.

    Please grow up, or at least wait for HER to...

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    1. Re:Second Petition! by Gendou · · Score: 2

      Human males are pre-programmed to find females to be at the peek of their attractiveness between the ages of 14 and 24, when they are at their most fertile. Notions that 15-year-olds are somehow "children" have no basis in science and are fairly new fads that are solely a product of overprotective modern culture and nothing else. Anyone who denies this is supressing natural, healthy aspects of his psyche, which is in itself unhealthy. Any man of any age who claims that there are no beautiful 15-year-old girls in the world is either lying or homosexual. So, which of those applies to you?

    2. Re:Second Petition! by wykkyd · · Score: 1
      I never "claimed" 15-year-olds would not or could not be "beautiful". If you are going to attempt to troll, please try to at least get a correct quote (or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof). Here's a thought; make use of the cut & paste function, and invest in a literacy course.

      I clearly was using a term ("pedophile") that has a legal connotation based upon the age of the minor in question. It has nothing to do with her "beauty" or lack thereof.

      It was however a noble ruse... propositioning me by asking whether I was gay or not, under the guise of a troll was quite clever indeed... if not for the lack of relevance to my comment you might have pulled it off!

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    3. Re:Second Petition! by SavingPrivateNawak · · Score: 1

      I'm curious to know why I did end up on your foes list?

    4. Re:Second Petition! by Gendou · · Score: 1

      You were rude to SexyKelly. Damn misogynist. Couldn't get a date so you decided to harass women on Slashdot?

    5. Re:Second Petition! by SavingPrivateNawak · · Score: 1

      Harass? Posted two or three posts to her journal?

      Granted, my posts weren't nice but, in my opinion, being so provocative (Is she really fascist?) asked for it! What did she (did you) expect by trolling in her own journal and then asking for comments?? No really? What kind of posts did she expect? "Great job!", "H1tl3r rulez!", "You are SO cute, writing all this shit on /."...

      I pondered before replying in her journal (Not knowing what was true about her) and I did not want to go the easy way and saying "Shut up fat nazi bitch". If she's really fat that may have hurt her, and I don't like that. You can often be harmlessly rude in opposing ideas, but attacking someone's appearance is petty and truly not my style. I therefore decided (still not knowing much about her!) to clash on the aryan thing...

      I'm sorry but I don't think that I really stick to your 'misogynist-ugly-geek-can't-get-a-date' stereotype.

      Since you understand me so badly, it may be a good idea for you to keep the "Danger! Danger! Foe ahead" button for me.

  170. Selfish answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too many of my posts were modded offtopc or flame bait, when in my opinion they werent, so fuck em.

  171. Now will everyone plz. leave her alone? by Beebos · · Score: 1

    Now that she has spoken, let her have her life back.

    Move on to the next foolish thing to get infatuated over.

    Hey everyone!! Look here!!! I have an inanimate carbon rod!!!

  172. Yo momma by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your momma so poor she went to McDonalds and put a shake on layaway!

    OH SNAP!

  173. Ellen Feiss' location by Pzykotic · · Score: 1

    Taking clues from the interview and making a few logical jumps leaves me with one conclusion:

    Ellen Feiss lives in (or very near) Cambridge, Massachusetts.

    Why this conclusion? Well, in the article it's clear she was on the set of the Switchers campaign because she is friends with Hamilton Morris, son of the director Errol Morris. Errol Morris and his family (including his son) live in Cambridge.

    As far as the set being in LA... it's possible the location was changed in the article to protect the innocent, but it's also possible that Apple flew Errol, Hamilton, and Ellen to the set.

    Another clue is that the article was done by Brown University, which is in Providence... very close to Cambridge so it's likely the person that knew Ellen at the college was from Massachusetts.

    So unless anyone can contradict me (in a non-flaming manner thanks), I'll stick with my assesment that Ellen Feiss is in Cambridge!

    That makes TWO, count 'em TWO hot geek icons living there, since Natalie Portman has an apartment there for here studies at Harvard (She's a senior this year, right? I hope she decides t stay)

    Score 2 for the 'bridge! Go Mass! ;)

    -Pzy

    1. Re:Ellen Feiss' location by Pzykotic · · Score: 1

      I dunno where I got the idea of the set being in LA, that's not said anywhere in the article and I've never heard it before (Ah, my mind is sludge this early in the morniing)...

      So yeah! In or around Cambridge! :)

    2. Re:Ellen Feiss' location by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amusingly, I once ran into Natalie Portman while catching a show at Club Passim, in Harvard Square. She was eating dinner, though, so I left her alone. I guess that makes me a Bad Geek.

  174. Anakin Switch Commercial by tichick · · Score: 1
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  175. Does not compute by wchin · · Score: 1

    Your logic doesn't work.

    Marketshare is not the same thing as installed base, and you interchange the two. Macintoshes currently ship with Mac OS X as the default operating system, so out of the box 100% of these machines are running Mac OS X. So that's 100% of the roughly 3-4% marketshare (it is unclear from these research firms if they count only CPU boxes, or boxed software sales also). Apple estimates that there will be 5 million Mac OS X users by the end of the year (see Apple's Q4 results, and there are roughly 25 million Mac users overall.

    The next two things cannot be easily measured. The number of people that do not run Mac OS X and always switch back to Mac OS 9 on their new Macs. Plus, some people switch between the two and spend more time in one or the other. The other difficult to measure item is not only the number of desktop Linux seats, but the number of them that spend a majority of their time in Linux. I would bet that a majority of the Linux desktop seats out there spend a significant amount of time, if not a majority of time booted into Windows.

    1. Re:Does not compute by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2
      Marketshare is not the same thing as installed base, and you interchange the two. Macintoshes currently ship with Mac OS X as the default operating system, so out of the box 100% of these machines are running Mac OS X

      Huh? I thought market share was how much of the market used a particular product. So if 4% of the computer desktop market uses Macs, but only 2% of those machines use OS X, the the market share for the Mac is 4%, and the marketshare for OS X is 2%. Am I missing something here?

      The next two things cannot be easily measured. The number of people that do not run Mac OS X and always switch back to Mac OS 9 on their new Macs. Plus, some people switch between the two and spend more time in one or the other. The other difficult to measure item is not only the number of desktop Linux seats, but the number of them that spend a majority of their time in Linux. I would bet that a majority of the Linux desktop seats out there spend a significant amount of time, if not a majority of time booted into Windows.

      When those Linux stats were measured, it was what you use the majority of the time iirc. So for instance I use Linux perhaps 90% of the time, but still use Windows occasionally. I'd be measured as a Linux user. If you count Linux desktop seat as any machine with a desktop distro installed, then you might well be correct (though i'd guess not, after all if you hardly ever use it why keep it installed?).

    2. Re:Does not compute by wchin · · Score: 1

      Marketshare is the percentage of sales, either by unit count or revenue of a given market. Typically this is done in a quarterly or annual basis. So if you bought a Sony laptop last year, but haven't bought anything this year, you are not counted towards Sony's marketshare this year or this quarter. You are thinking about installed base - the number of people using a particular product or a particular brand overall, even if they bought it a decade ago.

      So right now, Apple has roughly 3-4% marketshare depending on whose numbers you trust. That means, out of the 100% of machines sold in the past quarter, Apple accounts for roughly 3-4%. Many research firms use unit count instead of revenue, which actually inflates the percentage of Wintel PC's since they tend to be cheaper than Macs or Suns and the like as compared to counting gross revenue. Of those machines sold, Apple ships them with Mac OS X as the default operating system. A buyer has to switch out of Mac OS X and boot into Mac OS 9 if they are to switch back. So out of the box, Mac OS X has a 100% marketshare of Macs, since Apple is the only provider of Macs right now. The intangible is the number of people that switch semi-permanently out of Mac OS X, which is similar to trying to count the number of people that buy a Wintel PC, reformat and work primarily in Linux or another OS.

      Now, out of the estimated 25 million active Mac users, the installed base, Apple estimates that roughly 5 million are/will be using Mac OS X by the end of the year. That's probably not too far from the truth, as Apple has shipped around 3 million machines with Mac OS X as the default operating system and Apple can count the number of Mac OS X copies sold. Plus there's probably a high number of pirated copies.

      Of course size of the installed base isn't interesting to companies, their investors, or other business related entities. In reality, what they are interested in is number of current active buyers. The amount of money people and businesses are spending now and will spend in the next quarter or two. It doesn't help Apple that there are millions upon millions of 5-10 year of Macs out there because, well, they spend very little money today and tomorrow. Similarly, it doesn't help the overall Linux effort from a corporate side that the total amount of money spent on Linux and directly Linux related items (services, support, etc.) is quite small.

      People keep Linux installed because they hope to be able to use it. Not that many of them are actually capable or willing to use it near full time. Hopefully this will change in the few years - I hope Apple never has the majority of the market, but I hope that Apple has 10-20% of the market. Linux to have 20-30% also. And another major commercial platform to have a big chunk. It is unhealthy for all involved except for Microsoft to have them hold such a large monopoly. I'd like to see more chaos (read competition) in the market. It is good for us.

    3. Re:Does not compute by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 2
      Marketshare is the percentage of sales, either by unit count or revenue of a given market. Typically this is done in a quarterly or annual basis.

      Well, you are quite correct, I went and looked it up. I was confusing the two, though I normally see marketshare and installed base treated as the same by others, hence my confusion.

      So right now, Apple has roughly 3-4% marketshare depending on whose numbers you trust. That means, out of the 100% of machines sold in the past quarter, Apple accounts for roughly 3-4%

      So does that mean you can't count things that are given away for free as marketshare? If I download Redhat 8, does that download count as part of their marketshare or not?

      thanks -mike

    4. Re:Does not compute by wchin · · Score: 1
      So does that mean you can't count things that are given away for free as marketshare? If I download Redhat 8, does that download count as part of their marketshare or not?

      Free downloads do not count as part of marketshare. That's one of the reasons why it has been so difficult for traditional industry analysts to quantify the impact of Linux. Unlike a Mac or a Sun machine which is quite likely to run the operating system that came bundled or a version upgrade of it during its useful life, it is very difficult to quantify the number of PC's that no longer run a version of Microsoft Windows as its primary operating system. And quite honestly, the industry only cares about who is spending money on what. Free stuff doesn't count. Of course, that also means that Linux can't die as long as there are people running it and contributing to it, since it does not rely on a primary or sole corporate benefactor.

  176. dumb bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I ever met this fucking rich-ass jew whore I'd beat the shit out of her. What a fucking dog.

  177. Help! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *cackling*
    must.. stop.. laughing..

    *choking sounds*
    *thud*

    Clear!
    *Cachunk*
    Clear!
    *Cachunk*
    *beeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep...*

    He was like... A really good slashdoter...
    That was like.............. A bummer.

  178. Ouch by m1a1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ellen Feiss is a lot like most 15-year-olds

    Fifteen? Why God...? WHY!!! I thought I had found my dream girl, but she's just jail bait.

    1. Re:Ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      jailbate can still be fun.

    2. Re:Ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She's legal in Canada.

      Fourteen is of age here.

      Dear God, I love my country :)

  179. uhm ... by Kalidor · · Score: 1
    She's, like, going to be traumatized about this forever, like.
    If I see anymore of this girl I am the one who is gonna be traumatized .... blech!
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  180. Re:Is that it? [Way OT] by mhesseltine · · Score: 1
    • 10 kinds of people
    • (1) those who understand
    • (2) those who don't

    Unless my /. math is off, 10-2 is 8, not 7. Also, here's a link to this phrase on a t-shirt from Thinkgeek

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  181. Re: your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you think those were Photoshopped on Linux or Windows?

  182. Re:shutdown -h now: MOD PARENT DOWN by catch23 · · Score: 1

    He's trying to make false, negative claims to my one and only HEROINE!

  183. A REAL Testimonial by alekso · · Score: 1

    Here's a Real Testimonial in the form of an actual Apple Help Desk call I downloaded from an Apple employee's website. I love Apple, I love my MacQuarium, but perhaps Ellen's answer isn't as clear cut as it seems... The link is also found at media.atari.org

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  184. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  185. Better catch this one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    She's a fucking whore. 'nuff said.

  186. Best comment ever... LOL by kyletinsley · · Score: 1

    (Going to hell for that one...)

    You may be going to hell, but you're also going to the Slashdot Top 10 Comments of the Year! ...if they ever get around to putting something like that up. hehehe you killed me with that one man

  187. So sad... by E-Rock · · Score: 2

    Huh? Yes, she used the word bombard, but she used it incorrectly. It's a verb, not a noun (unless she was referring to an ancient cannon).

    ef:"When we get back two weeks later, it's like a bombard, it was so big."

    Read it context, she probably meant to say that it's like being bombarded.

  188. That could also work to their advantage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iLotion anyone?

  189. Exclusive Ellen stuff... kinda/sorta by Blipus · · Score: 1

    On one of my many random livejournal adventures I stumbled across a classmate of Ellen's, named Lily. The cool thing is that Lily dated Hamilton (the other kid with the commercial, and the one who landed Ellen her ad) for quite some time. Apparently Ellen goes to The Cambridge School of Weston, a rather alternative high school Massachusetts. Here are some of the more relevant Livejournal threads:
    Lily finds out about ellenfeiss.net
    Lily finds out that her ex-boyfriend Hamilton is gonna be in a commercial
    Lily comments on Hamilton's dad doing some stuff for the Oscar's and getting tons of loot. Apparently that family is hella-rich.
    Lily just saw Hamilton make an appearance on the Oscars. (betcha didn't know he was already famous _before_ the switch ad)

    Yeah yeah, it mostly deals with Hamilton (there's a lot more about him if you keep going through the journal) and not much is all THAT exciting, but I thought it was interesting.

  190. like how many 15 year olds do you know... by zonker · · Score: 0

    ...who watch leno and letterman over mtv? doesn't surprise me a bit. i find it amusing as everyone seems aghast now that they are looking through the timewarp that is tennagers... and to those that say "gee i wasn't like that when i was 15" well, good for you, times change. how long ago was that? and have you grown up since then?

  191. Age of consent laws from around the world by Cadre · · Score: 2
    It would be illegal in most states? I'm pretty sure the Dell dude is over 18. Could be wrong...

    Varies between states. Age of consent for around the world.

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  192. Hilarious interview; a figure for our time by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Terrifically fun read. She's obviously cooler than the people twice her age (and more) who fetishize her. And do you know what her secret is, you middle-aged cueballs with your Feiss t-shirts and coffee mugs? Have you not read your Nabokov? She doesn't give a fuck. Ha, ha! The ultimate object of worship in our pandering age is the celebrity created out of nothing, who doesn't care, who really can't be bothered, for whom it just happened and for whom just as easily one day it will un-happen, and, meanwhile, whose sheer disinterest turns the covetous world on its ear.

  193. Like, any releation to "The Dude" by Wheaty18 · · Score: 1

    I swear, she is like SO related to "The Dude".

  194. Re:shutdown -h now: MOD PARENT DOWN by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 1

    Did you mean your one and only heroin?

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  195. Another bad druggie joke by JDWTopGuy · · Score: 1

    When Apple asked Ellen "What do you like? FreeBSD?" Ellen though they said "What do you like? Free LSD?" and she was like, "Yeah..."

    Sorry for that. Just a lighthearted joke, move along.

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  196. DAMN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    she is fucking hot. thanks for the link.

  197. An HREF'd link to that URL by error0x100 · · Score: 2

    For those who don't feel like cut n pasting (esp with that dang silly /. space in there)

    http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/mac/HIGuidelin es/HIGuidelines-2.html

    1. Re:An HREF'd link to that URL by kitzilla · · Score: 2

      That was thoughtful of you. I'll post a proper link next time. :-)

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    2. Re:An HREF'd link to that URL by error0x100 · · Score: 2

      Well its for a good cause after all :)

  198. she's like hot and stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm so glad my wife is going to come rescue my drunken geek ass.

    Damn straight I'm posting anonymously!!!

  199. i know by HongPong · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    I can gurantee you that the folks on the Windows side will have sore arms well before the Mac users do.

    Of course they will. Windows people are wankers.

  200. speaking of stoner by GunFodder · · Score: 2

    I didn't know Benadryl was slang for weed. Someone should tell her that smoking pot is actually bad for her allergies.

  201. Re:[IN SOVIET RUSSIA] No, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you sir, may I have another?

  202. Re:Is that it? [Way OT] by cookd · · Score: 1
    (Hint: I'm not completely stupid.)

    The evolution of this joke, as far as I can tell, goes like this:
    1. There are two kinds of people in the world: ... (insert wise and pithy categorization here) ...
    2. There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count, and those who cannot.
    3. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who do not.

    Although it may have been a bit subtle, and it is definitely not funny now that I have explained it, my response "What about the other 7?" was not an admission that I lack an understanding of binary, but was an attempt at reaching back into the joke's history to give it a new twist.
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  203. Re:Is that it? [Way OT] by mhesseltine · · Score: 1

    My bad. I must have never heard the 3 types joke.

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  204. OMG!!! by fluxrad · · Score: 1

    Two drops of pee just came out!

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  205. Gee... now ppl wants her interview poster. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy should check out ebay, that's faster.
    Ellen Feiss Poster Wanted

  206. No by greenrd · · Score: 2
    What, do you kick pets that meow/bark/etc. for attention as well?

    Of course not! I am careful to be always kind to animals. That's a completely bogus analogy.

    The one and only (and totally acceptable) True Way to register laughter on slashdot is to rate posts "+1 Funny". Anything else is punishable by immediate karma hits!

    HAND,
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  207. THC is not a CNS depressant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's classed as a Cannabinoid.

    CNS depressants are alcohol, barbiturates, benzodiazapines. THC has a different site of action than the CNS depressants. CNS depressants act on the GABA complex, while THC has a different receptor.

    I know that it's a joke, but that line is just so blatantly wrong.

  208. Re:STUPID GIT. THE ANSWER IS "SEX WITH A MARE."- by Inthewire · · Score: 1

    Sorry about that (see followup). I forgot to refresh before posting my reply.

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  209. Re:I mourn... for all of us getting old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was an advanced placement student in high school and an honor student in college. Personally I think the little stoner chick is pretty clever. Not to mention she seems to have a healthy sense of perspective when it comes to some of the weirdness that's gone on.

    If she's still talking like that when she's 25 or so, then we can freely criticize. Let her be a kid for now.

  210. like... like... like STFU! by essdodson · · Score: 1

    Like, does she have, like, another word she like, likes to say?


    %lynx -dump "http://www.browndailyherald.com/post/stories.asp? ID=269" | grep -ic like
    28

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  211. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Mod parent up, please. Funniest comment I've read here in a while!

  212. hmmm by geoffoliver · · Score: 1

    I despise Ellen Feiss.

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  213. SUBURBAN GRADE INFLATION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    like, really

  214. It's going to shit because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    80% of americans can't point to their own country on a map of the world.

  215. Re: your sig by santiag0 · · Score: 1

    thanks, funniest thing I've seen in a week.

  216. Re:Hot Grits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice Matrix schtick. Are you trying to sell this to the studios? Since slashdot is so popular, its about time they get their own movie. And what better than funny sci-fi? Cowboy Neal must play Yoda and join Neo etc to fight evil.

  217. janie porche fans let's join to build a fan site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    linkz:

    http://homepage.mac.com/janieporche/.Pictures/ja ni eporche.jpg

    http://www.apple.com/switch/images/switchtop302o 02 0711182002.jpg

    http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/stories/2002/ 10 /14/stalkingJaniePorche.html

  218. Bad Moderation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How is the +1 Insightful +1 Informative +1 Funny? The guy didn't even get the original joke. Informative... maybe, since he posted from the article. Insightful? Funny? No.

    Come on, moderators. I expect more from you.