You and I have entirely different definitions of "nothing crazy". That list has a lot of complete fluff in it, not to mention the stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with gaming (office suite? UPS? WTF?). Furthermore, it's dishonest to include games as part of the price comparison for a gaming system.
It's more than a little condescending to say that people who dislike 2001 must dislike it because they don't 'get' it. I, for one, got it just fine, I just thought that it was an insufferably boring movie and gave up on it. It has nothing to do with me not 'getting' it, it's simply an issue of bad pacing.
That's kind of a trick question, in my opinion. Taking someone's property, no matter how small, harms them to some extent, even if it's tiny. There's no such thing as stealing that hurts no one.
So... you say I'm "sounding defensive" for pointing out flaws in your reasoning, and trying to nicely explain why you come across as harsh. Then you go on to make unfounded assumptions about my life, and insult me.
And then you wonder why people think you're being a dick.
No, people are saying that you're an asshole for pointedly saying "I stopped watching TV in the 8th grade" as if it's something you should get an award for. So you quit watching TV. Good for you. Truth be told, that only means that you summarily dismissed the entire medium based on the shows that were available to you, so I'm rather unimpressed with that (TV is just a medium, no different than books or music. Dismissing TV because most TV sucks is like refusing to read books because trashy romance novels suck).
Actually, now I think about it, it's not so much just mentioning that you quit watching TV. It's the fact that you very pointedly say you gave it up in the 8th grade, thus implying that TV (and games, since you lumped the two together in your OP) is juvenile nonsense... and, by extension, that those who pursue such things are juvenile people. That's where you really come off badly, because your words sound extremely judgmental. Not to mention, as I just said, it's a silly statement to make anyway, because dismissing a medium for the fact that it contains some trashy works is preposterous.
lack of vacation time (0 mandatory, 14 days average after TWO YEARS), and completely uncompetitive wages/working conditions
I don't know where you get your information, but you're sadly misinformed. It's an extreme rarity here to not start out with two weeks' paid vacation. True, it's not mandated by law (afaik), but what does that matter when it's damn near ubiquitous anyway?
And as for "uncompetitive wages/working conditions"... that's a hazily defined claim at best. I get paid enough to live a rather comfortable lifestyle, and work a fairly sane number of hours. Indeed, so do most people here, it's only in IT that the biggest problems are in that regard. So, who defines "competitive wages"? For my part, as long as I pay my bills and have enough to enjoy my life outside of work (and even a bit to save), I call that competitive enough.
So while we have some problems, the picture is hardly as bleak as you paint.
TFS is very badly written, and misleading, FYI. TFA is actually about making some contacts at GenCon, in the hopes of finding a future job in the industry. It's not about "I have a cool idea for a game, who do I talk to?".
You'd think for a tech site, people would have a passion for tech. I guess not.
We do. We also don't proclaim every tiny change to be a revolution, unlike some people, who get overly excited. The GP is right. The iPhone has brought some nice advancements (very good touch interface, sea of apps available from a central location), but to say it's "completely changed the mobile landscape" is ludicrous. People are still using their phones in 90% the same way as they were 3 years ago.
And yet, if you want a job in aerospace, you can still find it. All these people crying about how IT is a "dying industry" are fearmongers, nothing more. Yes, we all know that IT isn't the gold mine it used to be... but to those of us who work in the field because we love the work, that doesn't matter. We're doing what we love, not trying to run a get-rich-quick scheme.
And you forget why we allow businesses to exist: to benefit society in the process of enriching the shareholders.
What? No. That is not, in the least, why we allow businesses to exist. We allow businesses to exist because it is a natural right for people to attempt to use their resources to obtain more. It would be nothing short of morally outrageous to not allow businesses to exist, because running a business is the natural right of the owners.
That's not to say that business owners can behave however they please, of course. We have limits on how someone can conduct business, just like we have limits on personal interaction. Running people over in the pursuit of bettering your own position is not a natural right, but the pursuit of bettering your own position is.
This is, by far, the truest thing that has been said in this entire discussion. It's easy to teach someone the basics of fixing a PC (or car, I imagine), but they've only learned a fraction of what they need to know. Experience is my most powerful ally, that's for sure (well, not counting problem-solving skills).
That is what they're doing. Blizzard has only ever referred to this movie as the "Warcraft movie". It's the fans who have misconstrued that as meaning it's based on the game WoW.
Bittorrent requires knowlege of router configuration to configure ports forwarding etc.
No, it doesn't. Some people's network setups may necessitate that, but I have never had to do any of that nonsense on the networks I've been on. The shit just works.
"You can't find the square root of a negative number"
For all practical purposes, that's true, not a lie. I mean, I recognize the great value that imaginary numbers have in math, but most people don't come anywhere near them.
Not to mention that I have to question whether you can really call sqrt(-x) = sqrt(x) * i finding the square root of the number. It's kind of a cop-out... "OK, so the square root of a negative number is some factor, multiplied with a number I made up, and defined to be the square root of negative one!". I accept it, but you have to admit that defining away limitations in your system of mathematics is rather lame.
I think you've horribly missed the point. The goal isn't to find a good way to teach kids science... get a textbook for that. The goal is to find a way to get kids interested in science, and Mythbusters can do that very nicely. Once their interest is captured, then teach them how it actually works.
The main thing I'm concerned about them getting down is the tweaking. By far the best part, for me, was always building your own mechs, coming up with new combinations. It was especially great if you had a regular opponent: my roommate and I were always looking to one-up or counter the other's newest mech design. That's the key part of the game to get right, in my opinion. If they get that, the rest isn't too hard to have fall into place.
I think you've completely misread him if you think he doesn't know what he's talking about, and has some naive, idealistic view of the world. He's never said that it's easy to be a good manager, or that they're commonplace. He's merely saying what he believes characterizes a good manager.
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Right, you steal them. That's what he said.
You and I have entirely different definitions of "nothing crazy". That list has a lot of complete fluff in it, not to mention the stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with gaming (office suite? UPS? WTF?). Furthermore, it's dishonest to include games as part of the price comparison for a gaming system.
It's more than a little condescending to say that people who dislike 2001 must dislike it because they don't 'get' it. I, for one, got it just fine, I just thought that it was an insufferably boring movie and gave up on it. It has nothing to do with me not 'getting' it, it's simply an issue of bad pacing.
Good thing that doesn't change the story in the slightest, despite all the bitching Star Wars fanboys have done over the years.
That's kind of a trick question, in my opinion. Taking someone's property, no matter how small, harms them to some extent, even if it's tiny. There's no such thing as stealing that hurts no one.
So... you say I'm "sounding defensive" for pointing out flaws in your reasoning, and trying to nicely explain why you come across as harsh. Then you go on to make unfounded assumptions about my life, and insult me.
And then you wonder why people think you're being a dick.
No, people are saying that you're an asshole for pointedly saying "I stopped watching TV in the 8th grade" as if it's something you should get an award for. So you quit watching TV. Good for you. Truth be told, that only means that you summarily dismissed the entire medium based on the shows that were available to you, so I'm rather unimpressed with that (TV is just a medium, no different than books or music. Dismissing TV because most TV sucks is like refusing to read books because trashy romance novels suck).
Actually, now I think about it, it's not so much just mentioning that you quit watching TV. It's the fact that you very pointedly say you gave it up in the 8th grade, thus implying that TV (and games, since you lumped the two together in your OP) is juvenile nonsense... and, by extension, that those who pursue such things are juvenile people. That's where you really come off badly, because your words sound extremely judgmental. Not to mention, as I just said, it's a silly statement to make anyway, because dismissing a medium for the fact that it contains some trashy works is preposterous.
lack of vacation time (0 mandatory, 14 days average after TWO YEARS), and completely uncompetitive wages/working conditions
I don't know where you get your information, but you're sadly misinformed. It's an extreme rarity here to not start out with two weeks' paid vacation. True, it's not mandated by law (afaik), but what does that matter when it's damn near ubiquitous anyway?
And as for "uncompetitive wages/working conditions"... that's a hazily defined claim at best. I get paid enough to live a rather comfortable lifestyle, and work a fairly sane number of hours. Indeed, so do most people here, it's only in IT that the biggest problems are in that regard. So, who defines "competitive wages"? For my part, as long as I pay my bills and have enough to enjoy my life outside of work (and even a bit to save), I call that competitive enough.
So while we have some problems, the picture is hardly as bleak as you paint.
TFS is very badly written, and misleading, FYI. TFA is actually about making some contacts at GenCon, in the hopes of finding a future job in the industry. It's not about "I have a cool idea for a game, who do I talk to?".
You'd think for a tech site, people would have a passion for tech. I guess not.
We do. We also don't proclaim every tiny change to be a revolution, unlike some people, who get overly excited. The GP is right. The iPhone has brought some nice advancements (very good touch interface, sea of apps available from a central location), but to say it's "completely changed the mobile landscape" is ludicrous. People are still using their phones in 90% the same way as they were 3 years ago.
And yet, if you want a job in aerospace, you can still find it. All these people crying about how IT is a "dying industry" are fearmongers, nothing more. Yes, we all know that IT isn't the gold mine it used to be... but to those of us who work in the field because we love the work, that doesn't matter. We're doing what we love, not trying to run a get-rich-quick scheme.
And you forget why we allow businesses to exist: to benefit society in the process of enriching the shareholders.
What? No. That is not, in the least, why we allow businesses to exist. We allow businesses to exist because it is a natural right for people to attempt to use their resources to obtain more. It would be nothing short of morally outrageous to not allow businesses to exist, because running a business is the natural right of the owners.
That's not to say that business owners can behave however they please, of course. We have limits on how someone can conduct business, just like we have limits on personal interaction. Running people over in the pursuit of bettering your own position is not a natural right, but the pursuit of bettering your own position is.
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No, cops are NOT good people. Cops are immoral scumbags, and they shouldn't be thanked.
WTF? In a rare departure from form, both sides of the discussion are morons. I don't know who to root for!
And no I don't play games below 50FPS
Well, not to sound rude, but that's your problem, not ours. It's not like games running at 20-30 FPS magically look worse.
Experience always wins.
This is, by far, the truest thing that has been said in this entire discussion. It's easy to teach someone the basics of fixing a PC (or car, I imagine), but they've only learned a fraction of what they need to know. Experience is my most powerful ally, that's for sure (well, not counting problem-solving skills).
I think clearly Windows 9001 would be the name of choice.
That is what they're doing. Blizzard has only ever referred to this movie as the "Warcraft movie". It's the fans who have misconstrued that as meaning it's based on the game WoW.
On slashdot? Pretty high.
Bittorrent requires knowlege of router configuration to configure ports forwarding etc.
No, it doesn't. Some people's network setups may necessitate that, but I have never had to do any of that nonsense on the networks I've been on. The shit just works.
If science and religion were 100% incompatible, as the GP claims, there would be 0 religious scientists. Simple as that.
"You can't find the square root of a negative number"
For all practical purposes, that's true, not a lie. I mean, I recognize the great value that imaginary numbers have in math, but most people don't come anywhere near them.
Not to mention that I have to question whether you can really call sqrt(-x) = sqrt(x) * i finding the square root of the number. It's kind of a cop-out... "OK, so the square root of a negative number is some factor, multiplied with a number I made up, and defined to be the square root of negative one!". I accept it, but you have to admit that defining away limitations in your system of mathematics is rather lame.
I think you've horribly missed the point. The goal isn't to find a good way to teach kids science... get a textbook for that. The goal is to find a way to get kids interested in science, and Mythbusters can do that very nicely. Once their interest is captured, then teach them how it actually works.
Religion and Science are 100% incompatible.
Glaring counterexample.
Now that we've thoroughly debunked that bigoted falsehood... back to your regularly scheduled program.
The main thing I'm concerned about them getting down is the tweaking. By far the best part, for me, was always building your own mechs, coming up with new combinations. It was especially great if you had a regular opponent: my roommate and I were always looking to one-up or counter the other's newest mech design. That's the key part of the game to get right, in my opinion. If they get that, the rest isn't too hard to have fall into place.
I think you've completely misread him if you think he doesn't know what he's talking about, and has some naive, idealistic view of the world. He's never said that it's easy to be a good manager, or that they're commonplace. He's merely saying what he believes characterizes a good manager.