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People are going to upgrade their apps anyway - especially since Apple have gotten into the habit of reminding users of new versions every time you start an app.
Maybe my point wasn't clear. The OS9/"blue box" compatibility environment is going to be transparent. Apple probably could make it where when you launch an OS 9 app that it behaves more or less like an OS X app with Aqua. Of course, it wouldn't inherit the new features like multitasking and protected memory unless the app was carbonized. Here's a scenario.
1. User opens an app, only to find it's the old OS 9 style.
2. User realizes they are running an old, non-updated app.
3. User emails/calls the developer of said app and encourages them to either Carbonize the app or do a complete port to OS X (Cocoa-ize).
4. More developers get OS X ready versions of their apps out the door faster.
If the OS 9 apps didn't look different from OS X apps, then most users probably wouldn't notice that they were running old outdated versions and wouldn't bother to encourage the developers to update their apps. Therefore, Apple makes the OS 9 compatibility environment stand out with the old interface, in hopes of encouraging developers to update their apps asap. Who wants to deal with the shame of having their app be (ugly) OS 9-only when OS X comes out?
I think that is a likely explanation and I'm sticking to it.
Ben
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You guys don't get the point!
The "classic" environment looks different so that you intentionally know that you're running a non-OSX app. Think about it. If OS 9 apps are so blatant when running OS X, won't you be more inclined to bug the developer into developing a Carbon or Cocoa (OS X) version of the app so that you'll get all the new features?
Of course.
The only thing Apple changed was to move all three window widgets to the left, like in Aqua. That makes sense, so that you'll get used to it.
I don't expect Apple to change this in the final release of OS X. Having old "classic" apps look different is good move.
By the way, I think that screenshot of IE 5 running in OS X is faked. It doesn't look right. For one thing, the IE 5 icon is wrong. The real Mac IE 5 icon looks just like the old one only it's 32 bit color and looks polished. It looks realllllly sweet when you use the new Aqua finder and view the icon at 128pix.
However, I have run IE 5 under the classic environment on OS X so it does work. Apparently Microsoft is working on a "carbon" version of IE 5 as well. I haven't got my hands on it yet but that seems to be the version that Steve showed off at Macworld (I was there) since it had the aqua-fied windows.
Firewire devices ARE all SCSI at the moment, which is part of why the hard drives are so damn expensive.
That is totally wrong.
Some FW devices, like DV cams, are "pure" 1394.
Some FW devices, like hard drives, are IDE and use a bridge chip.
The hard drives are not that expensive by the way. You can get an IDE bridge case for less than $150. Buy your favorite IDE drive. You now have a FireWire device.
For instance, Buy.com is/was selling FW bridge cases for around $110. Pair that with a Maxtor 27.2GB 7200rpm drive at $200 (or less) and you have a high capacity high speed external FireWire drive for less than $310. That is not a bad price considering the convenience and advantages of FireWire.
I have been playing with VMWare and it is quite useful, my main platform is Linux but am sometimes forced to run other OS' VMWare allows me to run NT, 9x, BSD, etc.and with the newest Beta, even OS/2 without re-booting. so Yes it WOULD make sense.
OK, this issue got confused: Red Hat won't be bundling VGS with Red Hat. Instead, Connectix will be bundling Red Hat with their Virtual PC emulator. VPC is not released for Linux at this time. I'll make sure Rob gets some more coffee before posting again. *grin*
The second to last sentence should say:
VGS (Virtual Game Station) is not released for Linux at this time.
Having Virtual PC for Linux wouldn't make much sense. A PC emulating a PC? Riiiight.
Unless I really missed something here, this Slashdot story is totally wrong. Connectix is NOT shipping Virtual Game Station for Linux.
However, Connectix is bundling Red Hat Linux 6.x with their Virtual PC software. Virtual PC lets you run PC operating systems within an environment on your Mac.
Virtual Game Station lets you play Sony Playstation games on your Mac. Not Linux.
Don't like Windows? Have a spare PC? Put Windows on it, set it up as a router between your LAN and the DSL, hook up your Linux machines to the LAN, and away you go!
Based on my own observations, the MPEG and QuickTime 3 formats are the ones that I would use if I was hosting media content.
Here's why I wouldn't pick the other formats...
REAL AUDIO - The video and audio quality is terrible. Real Networks doesn't write quality playback software (don't know about the Win version but the Mac version is absolute shit). You also have to pay for the software to encode, serve, and decode the content (for the good versions). I've also never had a good experience trying to stream RealAudio content -- strange because streaming QuickTime and MP3 formats work fine.
I just get a funny feeling from RealAudio anyhow -- I avoid at all costs.
MICROSOFT VIDEO PLAYER - Do I really need to explain this one?
I would use QuickTime or MPEG because they are truly cross-platform a/v formats. And FREE. You can serve QuickTime movies (streaming even) for free, hello DARWIN. QuickTime movies are easy to make and they look and sound damn good for the compression you get. Also, if you use QT3, Xanim can play it under Linux/UNIX (not sure about QT4 though... last I checked you couldn't).
MPEG Video, I'm a bit less familiar with, but from what I've seen it looks almost as good as QuickTime (if you're comparing quality vs file size) and I believe you can play it back on ANY platform.
It just really disturbs me in general when sites pick formats that are only truly compatible with Windows. With so many excellent cross platform options available, I just don't see why big companies pick these closed formats. Sure, I don't expect them to make a player for every single OS in use, but at least use one of the open formats out there. Then at least we can code our own players.
Who needs italics when you have/slashes/ and *asterisks*?
Who needs underline when you have _underscore_?
Personally, if I get HTML formatted email from someone I don't know I trash it immediately. If someone is dumb enough to use that garbage for email then I wont read it.
My email client of choice is Mailsmith (sorry, Mac only). It is the most comprehensive client I have found... and it doesn't have any bloat on it like HTML email (THANK GOODNESS). It also lets you do queries (grep if you want to) of your email database. Also has other cool things like text manipulation, assignable key commands, and full AppleScript integration that other mail clients don't have. All this, and Bare Bones Software has the best customer support in the world.
Beats the hell out of Microsoft Outlook Express that most of my friends use. Blech!
Too bad Apple killed Claris Emailer, it was kinda cool too.
Pine is still my favorite command-line email program. No need to worry about HTML email with that one either:)
The Matrix has at least one glaring error in the special effects. Watch the rooftop scene where Neo dodges the bullets of the man in black. Neo drops his guns to his side, then when they show him dodging the bullets and do the panoramic shot, the guns are gone. When he falls down, the guns are back.
So few consumers can afford DVD right now they'll lose nothing by burying the cracked format and starting over.
Where the hell do you live? Ethiopia?
Good DVD players can be had for about $250 which is no more than any other piece of mass market consumer electronics. Factor in that it plays CDs too and now you don't have to drop another $100 on a CD player. Joe Sixpack working for minimum wage at Wal-Mart can afford a DVD player for gods sake!
Movies are about $15 online and about $20 at retail stores. That's no more than the cost of a CD (but I guess few consumers can afford CDs either huh?).
Then again, maybe you're just disillusioned and still use cassette tapes and VHS!
I will admit to knowing not much about "DVD-2" but I don't really care. DVD as we now know it is here to stay. Millions of standalone players have been sold (several million) and nearly every new PC has a DVD-ROM drive. There's no reason to chuck it in favor of a new format. With current DVD there is a disc version called DVD-18 that is dual sided and dual layered. You can fit over 6 hours of film on one disc! For instance the first DVD-18, released recently, is Stephen King's The Stand all on one disc! How is that not good enough?
I really don't see what needs to be improved in DVD. Anyway, it really doesn't matter because so many players have been sold, so many movies pressed, that there's no way a rival format could take hold at this point, imho.
DVD-9 (single sided, dual layer) holds approximately 8GB of data. These are the most popular discs. Do you really thing that someone is going to download 4-8 GB of data to watch a movie? What about the storage cost on disks? Yeah, hard drives are getting cheaper but as far as I know you can't get a 8 gig drive for less than $20 (the cost of a DVD movie).
Some new movies are even coming on DVD-18 (dual sided, dual layered). That's up to 16 gigs!
2) You'd have to play them from your computer's hard drive. There is DVD-RAM available but as far as I know it cannot burn dual layers which most new DVDs need. Also, I doubt that DVD players can read DVD-RAM anyhow (only a select few can read CD-R/W).
3) DVD's are cheap. Hmmm. Lemme see. Should I go buy the real movie at Reel.com for $10-15 or should I waste my time downloading it from the net, storing it on my hard drive, and being limited to playing it on my computer? (forget taking it to a friends house to watch).
Not only are they cheap to buy, but the studios are making money hand over fist with these things. They are much cheaper to produce than VHS tapes, but do they pass the savings on to the consumers? Hell no.
The low cost of DVD's are making CD's look like the ripoff that they are. What would you rather have for $15? A 74 minute CD that is just audio, or a 90+ minute movie, with audio and video, and tons of special features?
I think that if DVD's were cheaper (say $14.99 retail) then everyone would buy more of them, and it would be completely insane to want to buy/download a pirated copy instead of the original. If I were the studios, I'd rather sell 100,000 DVDs at $14.99 a pop, than 30,000 at $24.99 a pop (the current retail for most DVDs).
All in all, I hate copy protection on everything. It always ends up inconveniencing the legitimate users. SCMS for digital audio sucks! Why oh why can't I make perfect digital copies of my MiniDiscs? It's my damn music on them! Thankfully there are SCMS defeaters.
Macrovision for video sucks! Why can't I make copies of my VHS tapes for personal use (like having one copy for the house and another for an RV [hypothetical, I don't have an RV]). When you buy any kind of media you are usually paying for the rights to view the tape for personal exhibition, not for the actual media that you purchase. Therefore you should be able to freely copy the media as you wish as long as you're the one viewing it and you retain ownership of your copies (don't sell them).
But I digress. The industry will never listen. They will keep on using copy protection, knowing full well that it WILL be circumvented eventually, and that it ends up inconveniencing the legitimate users the most.
However, you miss something very key. Apple did not invent the GUI by any stretch of the imagination. They essentially stole it from Xerox PARC. Virtually all the important technologies we use today (GUIs, mice, Ethernet, laser printers, PostScript) were invented at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center.
That's why I originally said "we would still probably have some sort of GUI-based system today since concepts and even limited implementations were in place before the Mac was born"
I didn't miss anything, I just wasn't specific. Not everything was developed at Xerox. The GUI and Mice, for instance, were developed back in the 60's AFAIK by individuals (their names escape me at the moment).
But I firmly believe that had Apple not introduced the world to Macintosh, computers would be much harder to use. Gates has got to give them some credit.
Had the Mac never existed, we would still probably have some sort of GUI-based system today since the concepts and even limited implementations were in place before the Mac was born, but I guarantee you it wouldn't be like what we see today in Mac OS, Windows, KDE/Gnome, BeOS, etc.
Even Windows users need to recognize the importance that Apple holds in the marketplace. You might not agree with Apple's business practices, the limited customizability of Macintosh hardware, or the lack of choice when it comes to running a Mac OS-based system, and that's fine. I'm not going to argue with you there, and I'm a die-hard Mac user (though I know my Linux too!). Wishing Apple would go away is another thing entirely.
What EVERYONE must realize is the extreme importance that Apple still holds EVEN TODAY. Think about it. They are Windows' ONLY competition when it comes to an easy to use GUI-based Operating System experience.
Do you really think Windows 95/98 would be as good (a subjective term of course) as it is today had Apple not survived to offer them some real competition?
Even with the recent screwups that Apple has had, such as the G4 delays, the Apple Store order fiasco, etc the future looks bright. Apple is finally back on their feet and at the forefront of new technologies (ie. Firewire/1394) producing some kick ass new equipment.
So next time you see Bill Gates talking about how Microsoft is changing the world, remember who he is following.
I seem to recall hearing that Moog re-released the Mini Moog a year or two ago, using the original analogue specs and parts. Anyone have any info on this? I didn't know anyone who bought one, because they were apparently very expensive. Plus there is better analogue stuff to buy that is much cheaper.
While http://www.olga.net/ is down, you can still find the same tabs at many of their mirror sites. I wont divulge their addresses here (in case the HFA/FEDS are reading) but rest assured they are easy to find with some searching.
Slashdot Mirror
People are going to upgrade their apps anyway - especially since Apple have gotten into the habit of reminding users of new versions every time you start an app.
Maybe my point wasn't clear. The OS9/"blue box" compatibility environment is going to be transparent. Apple probably could make it where when you launch an OS 9 app that it behaves more or less like an OS X app with Aqua. Of course, it wouldn't inherit the new features like multitasking and protected memory unless the app was carbonized. Here's a scenario.
1. User opens an app, only to find it's the old OS 9 style.
2. User realizes they are running an old, non-updated app.
3. User emails/calls the developer of said app and encourages them to either Carbonize the app or do a complete port to OS X (Cocoa-ize).
4. More developers get OS X ready versions of their apps out the door faster.
If the OS 9 apps didn't look different from OS X apps, then most users probably wouldn't notice that they were running old outdated versions and wouldn't bother to encourage the developers to update their apps. Therefore, Apple makes the OS 9 compatibility environment stand out with the old interface, in hopes of encouraging developers to update their apps asap. Who wants to deal with the shame of having their app be (ugly) OS 9-only when OS X comes out?
I think that is a likely explanation and I'm sticking to it.
Ben
You guys don't get the point!
The "classic" environment looks different so that you intentionally know that you're running a non-OSX app. Think about it. If OS 9 apps are so blatant when running OS X, won't you be more inclined to bug the developer into developing a Carbon or Cocoa (OS X) version of the app so that you'll get all the new features?
Of course.
The only thing Apple changed was to move all three window widgets to the left, like in Aqua. That makes sense, so that you'll get used to it.
I don't expect Apple to change this in the final release of OS X. Having old "classic" apps look different is good move.
By the way, I think that screenshot of IE 5 running in OS X is faked. It doesn't look right. For one thing, the IE 5 icon is wrong. The real Mac IE 5 icon looks just like the old one only it's 32 bit color and looks polished. It looks realllllly sweet when you use the new Aqua finder and view the icon at 128pix.
However, I have run IE 5 under the classic environment on OS X so it does work. Apparently Microsoft is working on a "carbon" version of IE 5 as well. I haven't got my hands on it yet but that seems to be the version that Steve showed off at Macworld (I was there) since it had the aqua-fied windows.
Ben
I know, but it sounds better when you feed it through Babelfish the wrong way :)
Ben
Es ist nicht einfach, zu sein grün.
Firewire devices ARE all SCSI at the moment, which is part of why the hard drives are so damn expensive.
That is totally wrong.
Some FW devices, like DV cams, are "pure" 1394.
Some FW devices, like hard drives, are IDE and use a bridge chip.
The hard drives are not that expensive by the way. You can get an IDE bridge case for less than $150. Buy your favorite IDE drive. You now have a FireWire device.
For instance, Buy.com is/was selling FW bridge cases for around $110. Pair that with a Maxtor 27.2GB 7200rpm drive at $200 (or less) and you have a high capacity high speed external FireWire drive for less than $310. That is not a bad price considering the convenience and advantages of FireWire.
Ben
I have been playing with VMWare and it is quite useful, my main platform is Linux but am sometimes forced to run other OS' VMWare allows me to run NT, 9x, BSD, etc.and with the newest Beta, even OS/2 without re-booting. so Yes it WOULD make sense.
But is that emulation or just a virtual machine?
Ben
Hemos wrote:
OK, this issue got confused: Red Hat won't be bundling VGS with Red Hat. Instead, Connectix will be bundling Red Hat with their Virtual PC emulator. VPC is not released for Linux at this time. I'll make sure Rob gets some more coffee before posting again. *grin*
The second to last sentence should say:
VGS (Virtual Game Station) is not released for Linux at this time.
Having Virtual PC for Linux wouldn't make much sense . A PC emulating a PC? Riiiight.
Ben
Unless I really missed something here, this Slashdot story is totally wrong. Connectix is NOT shipping Virtual Game Station for Linux.
However, Connectix is bundling Red Hat Linux 6.x with their Virtual PC software. Virtual PC lets you run PC operating systems within an environment on your Mac.
Virtual Game Station lets you play Sony Playstation games on your Mac. Not Linux.
That's it. No big news here. Move along.
Ben
Regarding the jwz site. Since when did _width and _height become attributes? And when did valign="middle" become valign="center" ???
Seems like JWZ needs to quit bitching about what browsers to do his HTML when he can't even write proper HTML in the first place.
Ben
Don't like Windows? Have a spare PC? Put Windows on it, set it up as a router between your LAN and the DSL, hook up your Linux machines to the LAN, and away you go!
(Okay so maybe this is wishful thinking... )
Ben
Based on my own observations, the MPEG and QuickTime 3 formats are the ones that I would use if I was hosting media content.
- -
Here's why I wouldn't pick the other formats...
REAL AUDIO
- The video and audio quality is terrible. Real Networks doesn't write quality playback software (don't know about the Win version but the Mac version is absolute shit). You also have to pay for the software to encode, serve, and decode the content (for the good versions). I've also never had a good experience trying to stream RealAudio content -- strange because streaming QuickTime and MP3 formats work fine.
I just get a funny feeling from RealAudio anyhow -- I avoid at all costs.
MICROSOFT VIDEO PLAYER
- Do I really need to explain this one?
I would use QuickTime or MPEG because they are truly cross-platform a/v formats. And FREE. You can serve QuickTime movies (streaming even) for free, hello DARWIN. QuickTime movies are easy to make and they look and sound damn good for the compression you get. Also, if you use QT3, Xanim can play it under Linux/UNIX (not sure about QT4 though... last I checked you couldn't).
MPEG Video, I'm a bit less familiar with, but from what I've seen it looks almost as good as QuickTime (if you're comparing quality vs file size) and I believe you can play it back on ANY platform.
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It just really disturbs me in general when sites pick formats that are only truly compatible with Windows. With so many excellent cross platform options available, I just don't see why big companies pick these closed formats. Sure, I don't expect them to make a player for every single OS in use, but at least use one of the open formats out there. Then at least we can code our own players.
Do these guys want our business or not?
*sigh*
Ben
Don't read HTML email. What's the point anyway?
/slashes/ and *asterisks*?
:)
Who needs bold when you have CAPS?
Who needs italics when you have
Who needs underline when you have _underscore_?
Personally, if I get HTML formatted email from someone I don't know I trash it immediately. If someone is dumb enough to use that garbage for email then I wont read it.
My email client of choice is Mailsmith (sorry, Mac only). It is the most comprehensive client I have found... and it doesn't have any bloat on it like HTML email (THANK GOODNESS). It also lets you do queries (grep if you want to) of your email database. Also has other cool things like text manipulation, assignable key commands, and full AppleScript integration that other mail clients don't have. All this, and Bare Bones Software has the best customer support in the world.
Beats the hell out of Microsoft Outlook Express that most of my friends use. Blech!
Too bad Apple killed Claris Emailer, it was kinda cool too.
Pine is still my favorite command-line email program. No need to worry about HTML email with that one either
Ben
The Matrix has at least one glaring error in the special effects. Watch the rooftop scene where Neo dodges the bullets of the man in black. Neo drops his guns to his side, then when they show him dodging the bullets and do the panoramic shot, the guns are gone. When he falls down, the guns are back.
How could they miss this?
So few consumers can afford DVD right now they'll lose nothing by burying the cracked format and starting over.
Where the hell do you live? Ethiopia?
Good DVD players can be had for about $250 which is no more than any other piece of mass market consumer electronics. Factor in that it plays CDs too and now you don't have to drop another $100 on a CD player. Joe Sixpack working for minimum wage at Wal-Mart can afford a DVD player for gods sake!
Movies are about $15 online and about $20 at retail stores. That's no more than the cost of a CD (but I guess few consumers can afford CDs either huh?).
Then again, maybe you're just disillusioned and still use cassette tapes and VHS!
I will admit to knowing not much about "DVD-2" but I don't really care. DVD as we now know it is here to stay. Millions of standalone players have been sold (several million) and nearly every new PC has a DVD-ROM drive. There's no reason to chuck it in favor of a new format. With current DVD there is a disc version called DVD-18 that is dual sided and dual layered. You can fit over 6 hours of film on one disc! For instance the first DVD-18, released recently, is Stephen King's The Stand all on one disc! How is that not good enough?
I really don't see what needs to be improved in DVD. Anyway, it really doesn't matter because so many players have been sold, so many movies pressed, that there's no way a rival format could take hold at this point, imho.
Ben
DVD piracy is a non-issue for several reasons...
1) DVD's are HUGE.
DVD-9 (single sided, dual layer) holds approximately 8GB of data. These are the most popular discs. Do you really thing that someone is going to download 4-8 GB of data to watch a movie? What about the storage cost on disks? Yeah, hard drives are getting cheaper but as far as I know you can't get a 8 gig drive for less than $20 (the cost of a DVD movie).
Some new movies are even coming on DVD-18 (dual sided, dual layered). That's up to 16 gigs!
2) You'd have to play them from your computer's hard drive. There is DVD-RAM available but as far as I know it cannot burn dual layers which most new DVDs need. Also, I doubt that DVD players can read DVD-RAM anyhow (only a select few can read CD-R/W).
3) DVD's are cheap. Hmmm. Lemme see. Should I go buy the real movie at Reel.com for $10-15 or should I waste my time downloading it from the net, storing it on my hard drive, and being limited to playing it on my computer? (forget taking it to a friends house to watch).
Not only are they cheap to buy, but the studios are making money hand over fist with these things. They are much cheaper to produce than VHS tapes, but do they pass the savings on to the consumers? Hell no.
The low cost of DVD's are making CD's look like the ripoff that they are. What would you rather have for $15? A 74 minute CD that is just audio, or a 90+ minute movie, with audio and video, and tons of special features?
I think that if DVD's were cheaper (say $14.99 retail) then everyone would buy more of them, and it would be completely insane to want to buy/download a pirated copy instead of the original. If I were the studios, I'd rather sell 100,000 DVDs at $14.99 a pop, than 30,000 at $24.99 a pop (the current retail for most DVDs).
All in all, I hate copy protection on everything. It always ends up inconveniencing the legitimate users. SCMS for digital audio sucks! Why oh why can't I make perfect digital copies of my MiniDiscs? It's my damn music on them! Thankfully there are SCMS defeaters.
Macrovision for video sucks! Why can't I make copies of my VHS tapes for personal use (like having one copy for the house and another for an RV [hypothetical, I don't have an RV]). When you buy any kind of media you are usually paying for the rights to view the tape for personal exhibition, not for the actual media that you purchase. Therefore you should be able to freely copy the media as you wish as long as you're the one viewing it and you retain ownership of your copies (don't sell them).
But I digress. The industry will never listen. They will keep on using copy protection, knowing full well that it WILL be circumvented eventually, and that it ends up inconveniencing the legitimate users the most.
*sigh*
Ben
However, you miss something very key. Apple did not invent the GUI by any stretch of the imagination. They essentially stole it from Xerox PARC. Virtually all the important technologies we use today (GUIs, mice, Ethernet, laser printers, PostScript) were invented at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center.
That's why I originally said "we would still probably have some sort of GUI-based system today since concepts and even limited implementations were in place before the Mac was born"
I didn't miss anything, I just wasn't specific. Not everything was developed at Xerox. The GUI and Mice, for instance, were developed back in the 60's AFAIK by individuals (their names escape me at the moment).
This is NOT meant as flamebait...
But I firmly believe that had Apple not introduced the world to Macintosh, computers would be much harder to use. Gates has got to give them some credit.
Had the Mac never existed, we would still probably have some sort of GUI-based system today since the concepts and even limited implementations were in place before the Mac was born, but I guarantee you it wouldn't be like what we see today in Mac OS, Windows, KDE/Gnome, BeOS, etc.
Even Windows users need to recognize the importance that Apple holds in the marketplace. You might not agree with Apple's business practices, the limited customizability of Macintosh hardware, or the lack of choice when it comes to running a Mac OS-based system, and that's fine. I'm not going to argue with you there, and I'm a die-hard Mac user (though I know my Linux too!). Wishing Apple would go away is another thing entirely.
What EVERYONE must realize is the extreme importance that Apple still holds EVEN TODAY. Think about it. They are Windows' ONLY competition when it comes to an easy to use GUI-based Operating System experience.
Do you really think Windows 95/98 would be as good (a subjective term of course) as it is today had Apple not survived to offer them some real competition?
Even with the recent screwups that Apple has had, such as the G4 delays, the Apple Store order fiasco, etc the future looks bright. Apple is finally back on their feet and at the forefront of new technologies (ie. Firewire/1394) producing some kick ass new equipment.
So next time you see Bill Gates talking about how Microsoft is changing the world, remember who he is following.
"Where do you want to go today?" -- Microsoft
"Where are we going tomorrow?" -- Apple
Ben
My favorite band of all time! Can't get enough of that Frank Black.
Also like some Autechre or Aphex Twin if I'm feeling really adventurous.
Ben
Yankees.com is one of the worst websites I have ever seen. What is wrong with you, Katz?
- it takes too long to load
- the fonts are too small
- there are too many graphics
- it's confusing to navigate
- etc etc etc
Somebody send Johnboy to get a head exam!
This is better anyway:
:-)
Future Retro 777 Monophonic Analogue Synthesizer
I seem to recall hearing that Moog re-released the Mini Moog a year or two ago, using the original analogue specs and parts. Anyone have any info on this? I didn't know anyone who bought one, because they were apparently very expensive. Plus there is better analogue stuff to buy that is much cheaper.
Anyways..,
Well guess what? I'm a Mac user -- a PowerMac G3/300 user, to be precise -- and I'm using a Kensington TurboMouse trackball which has...
:)
*drumroll*
...FOUR buttons!
Eat a Twinkie and die, ya lousy troll.
Silly Mac user... don'tcha know that it really has 10 buttons?
Four in each corner... but then there's chording:
[1] [2]
[3] [4]
buttons
[1]+[2] = [5] virtual
[1]+[3] = [6] virtual
[1]+[4] = [7] virtual
[2]+[3] = [8] virtual
[2]+[4] = [9] virtual
[3]+[4] = [10] virtual
or something like that... it's a bunch... haven't used that TurboMouse software in quite some time
Ben
While http://www.olga.net/ is down, you can still find the same tabs at many of their mirror sites. I wont divulge their addresses here (in case the HFA/FEDS are reading) but rest assured they are easy to find with some searching.
Ben