If you have IE 5.0, open Outlook Express and go to the Tools menu and select the Accounts... option. Add your hotmail account and voila... You've got mail. Use the Send and Receive option on the Tools menu to download/send mail. I've been using that exclusively to send mail for so long I had totally forgotten that hotmail has a web address.
Merry Xmas. Hope that I was of help. PS: Does anyone know if slashdot cause this?
Original Post:But by not allowing dissemination and wide spread adoption of these business models it will only serve to retard the overall evolution of our economy.
Post I'm replying: Your retort doesn't apply to patents concerning business models, because the method employed is transparent to everyone -- humanity doesn't need anyone to spell it out on paper, because anyone in the business knows what business model
One question: So what if everybody knows what they are if they cannot use the patented business methods? The problem with patents now is that they are being used as a weapons: thus companies would rather not license patented processes so that their competition is overly handicapped or non-existent. e.g. Priceline vs. Expedia or Amazon vs. BN. This can only harm consumers in the long run because it limits choice and grants a natural monopoly to the patent holder. And we all know monopolies are a bad thing.
Why don't the developers get together for a class action lawsuit and at least get a slice of the pie?
Thanks for identifying yourself as a newbie not only to Slasdot but also to Linux as well. A quick intro is necessary...Firstly I'd like to know what grounds you want them to sue Redhat on? Due to the nature of the GPL the developers that have contributed to the linux kernel and the Redhat distro have no beef with Redhat. Redhat has not violated the GPL in any way so that cannot be a reason to sue. Secondly Redhat hires/supports a couple of the core kernel developers and thus these people have no more reason to sue Redhat than an employee of Dell, eBay, Microsoft or any other multibillion dollar company who draws a salary. Does this mean we can all sue our employers because our company's make millions in revenue while most of us make less than $100k a year? Thirdly Redhat did let developers get a slice of the pie with the letter...read about this here and here.
Now the only question I have to ask is; exactly how and for what reasons are developers going to sue Redhat?
It's one thing to bust your ass for your own greater glory, but how can you sit back and watch someone else profit handsomely from someone else's labor? If you got the letter you have profitted handsomely since the IPO. If you didn't get the letter, I remember Redhat hovered between 40 & 80 for a few weeks, this would have been a good time to show solidarity for linux and invest in yourself (assuming you're an OSS developer for linux)....and you'd be profitting handsomely as well.
Finally and most importantly, OSS developers i have met were not and are still not in it for the money. I write code and give it away because I like writing code and I want people to use it and if they find any bugs and fix them whooopeee. Lawsuit, paaah.
I remember trying to submit the original story to slashdot last month but it was rejected for some strange reason.
Anyway what I was going to say was this...if IBM can get this stupid patent overturned by showing prior art from documents dating as far back as 1991, maybe we can do something about the Amazon patent. I know someone has implemented or described the process of storing user info in a cookie and keeping track of the user's behavior (don't say purchases I'm pretty sure Amazon got a jump on patenting it in a retail environment)... whoever has this info or knows someone who has this info should send that to B&N so they can build a portfolio of prior art. Hopefully we, as a community, can get this stupid patent overturned. It seems like it is about time for that open source patent database.
From roblimo's post: . I'm making a personal donation to the Leonardo Defense Fund, 425 Market Street, 2nd Floor, San Francisco, California, 94105, U.S.A. I strongly urge other Slashdot readers to take their own appropriate actions - short of lawbreaking or violence, of course. From the post I am replying: You aren't doing so hot where it counts. Stories about robots and the like are massively cool, but "strongly encouraging" me to send my money somewhere to defend against something I think is inane?
Now with both relevant sentences side to side i would like to ask bugzilla and all the moderators who believe this is worthy of a 5, where does roblimo strongly encourage anyone to send money...? he said he has sent money and strongly encourages every one to take appropriate action. Now since I am assuming that that slashdotters are generally of above average intelligence I feel stupid pointing out that all roblimo said is "I have sent money, do what you feel is right". Now unless everyone else on slashdot has been implanted with obedience chips or has had their logic circuits fried, how is this even mildly coercing people to send money? I would assume that the average slashdotter (i.e. geek, scientist, intelligent human being) is more individual than bugzilla and all the moderators who agreed with him think...and thus does not rush of to listen to the Who, or buy AIBOs or download Quake 1 source code simply because Roblimo or CmdrTaco suggests it. So why should they send money to some fund based on Rob's opinions only?
It seems that you are making the Slashdot a role model and are now complaining because you don't approve of this role model's behavior. Please stop this kind of thinking....I am already pissed at all the parents that have forced warning labels on everything I watch, listen to and read. We don't need that crap ( disclaimers and pseudo-censorship) on slashdot too. After all I had assumed that the slashdot readership was at least mature if not adult enough to take responsibility for their own actions.
I can't wait to stop seeing posts bitching about slashdot and its owners on this site. If you don't like it, leave, don't start fscking it up for us that are don't sweat the small stuff by posting you're view of how slashdot should be. If you feel that strongly about it...grab the source, create your own site, and stop bitching here.
"We have the best hackers in the world. We do not need to drink or smoke...We do not drink, smoke, have drugs and we don't have AIDS, that's what you have got in the West." quote by Vladimir Zhirinovsky Russia is a heavy drinking nation which is struggling to catch up with economically-advanced countries on the use of new technologies, such as the Internet, but a lack of resources and poor infrastructure confines progress to big cities. following paragraph by Excite
However, it utilized MSFT's proprietary streaming video protocol. Furthermore, the Netscape plugin failed to work to any semblance of perfection, so I was forced to use IE. In my opinion, this was the biggest flaw in the course - especially something aimed at one who will be knowledgeable about computers (it was a graduate level course). The use of Real Player would have made me much more willing to participate in the course, as I had to reboot into an environment that I hated to listen to any lectures with Microsoft's protocol.
So the biggest failure in the course was not that you failed to learn anything useful or that your professor was an asshole but instead was that they choose to use one company's proprietary streaming audio player over another company's propriteary streaming audio, trojan horse spyware. Yep that seems like a utter failure to me.
It seems to me that a course aimed at people knowledgeable about computers would not ask its students to use trojan horse software.
PS: Anticipating your personal OS prejudices and adjusting their actions appropriately is not and should never be the concerns of any educational institution. Just my $(2 * 10e-2)
Sadly on Windows machines Real Player (and all its derivatives) has slowly but surely been outclassed by Windows Media Player kinda like with Navigator and IE. Too bad there can't be some sort of open source alternative Media Player...or can there (I dunno if/how this could work so I'm asking)?
Since Yahoo created the worlds sweetest browser plug in which coincidentally is Windows-only. It seems that Windows-only solutions are not anathema to Yahoo. I can only hope that enough people hit Broadcast.com from non-Windows boxes for us not to be an acceptable loss (i.e. over 5%).
Moderate the parent of this post up... I can count the amount of times I have been impressed by the contents of a post in the last month I have been reading Slashdot: 0. Until today.
This is one of the most intelligent, insightful and heartfelt posts I have ever read on Slashdot. Why the fsck are people making B&N out to be angels... remember You've Got Mail (Tom Hanks movie)...that was B&N being caricatured...is that who the Slashdot community loves? Why the fsck are people screaming boycott Amazon without mentioning viable alternatives? Where am I going to buy my books & CDs with the cost and service of B&N without supporting some other fscked corporate body? Where is all this indignation when corporations are killing freedom fighters?
PS: For all the people who keep posting their canned responses from Amazon from Erik Majick (sp?) and those who can't wait to tell us they are boycotting Amazon... please stop it's been done dozens of times already on Slashdot... please read this post and purchase a clue.
This is great, with any luck most endangered species can have their embryos frozen and then can be birthed by more common cousin species. Of course this doesn't really help the white rhino, since I doubt that there are any common cousin species to the rhino.
Of course now one wonders how long it'll be before the Jurassic Park fans start wondering, "Where is a fly trapped in amber when you need one?".
Don't understimate our effect. If we can demonstrate the need for this boycott clearly and concisely we can have a very large effect
Originally I beleived this but considering that this is the fourth time Slashdot has posted about Amazon and 1-click shopping in the past three months and nothing has happened, I don't see why this time should be any different, unless...(see bottom of post)
As an aside, it seems that the quality of posts this fourth time around is rather bad there were more insightful posts when we heard amazon got the patent, that they sued B&N, and when they won an injunction. It seems like now all the posts I've read even at a setting of 3 are at best rehashes of tired cliches that we've already seen three times (at least). After so many posts at so many different times I was hoping to see at least one post where someone suggested an organized form of opposition to this... it seems Richard Stallman has to be this someone.
Personally I've been boycotting Amazon for the past 3 months but it is obvious this has had no effect so now I suggest that we should borrow a leaf from the Geocities homesteaders when they rebelled against Yahoo's TOS and won. Instead of just bitching about it or reading about people bitching about it...we should organize webpages (not one or two, there were dozens of anti-Geocities TOS webpages when Yahoo revised them), send emails out to the people you know that link to these webpages and ask them to forward your emails (I know that sounds suspiciously like spam/chain letters but it works), and finally boycott Amazon in all shape, form & fashion (if I remember correctly from earlier discussions of this topic don't even Amazon links to Slashdot when talking about a book, post a B&N link...that way we don't contribute to their eyeball count). I know once I finish my finals I'll start work on constructing a website and creating letters to spread the word and start a grassroots resistance of this. Patenting using cookies to store credit card info harms all consumers who buy online, and we should make sure everyone realizes this. Just my $0.02...after reading about this for the 4th time on Slashdot.
It seems that the Australians cannot get past their ancestry no matter how they try. Australia's current inhabitants (the white one's at least) are descended from prisoners that were deemed too unsatisfactory to reside in English jails and were shipped to Australia. Considering that the continent was one big penal colony mainly populated by prisoners and their wardens, it is very interesting to note that the current population accepts (they do if not the government would be infringing on their privacy every other week...) almost any level of censorship or privacy invasion from their government.
This is not meant as flame bait but instead is my personal observation. Please respond intelligently.
PS: Wasn't it sad the way the cracker started his rant with such inspirational material only to end it with by the way I'm high on some crack. **sigh** He probably has reinvigorated the censorship board/committe??? and now they have a mental image of the kind of foul mouthed, drug addicts they want to "protect" the people of Australia from. They'll probably be handing his little rant out in leaflets with bold letters saying...This is the enemy... Save our children from him...
The key issue here is this. This is _AOL'S_ software. Other companies want to walk in, grab a hold of their large userbase, and walk away with it. Now if these companies were half as inventive as they were greedy, they'd create their own chat network. But of course not. The scream of "Open standards" quickly rallies slashdotters into a frenzy before they look at the issue here. AOL _created and maintain AIM_ it is _theirs_ nobody has the right to tell them what standards they should and shouldn't use.
The key issue here is this. This is _AT&T's_ fibre. Other companies want to walk in, grab a hold of their large broadband base, and walk away with it. Now if these companies were half as inventive as they were greedy, they'd create their own broadband network. But of course not. The scream of "high bandwidth for everyone" quickly rallies slashdotters into a frenzy before they look at the issue here. AT&T _created and maintain their broadband network _ it is _theirs_ nobody has the right to tell them what they should and shouldn't do.
Just playing devil's advocate...feels funny when the shoe's on the other foot doesn't it AOL?
Quick Question: What if I am a broke college student in the US and want to talk to my sister in the UK who I haven't seen in a year do I a.) Pay for an expensive phone call everytime I want to talk to her. b.) Send her an email with a bunch of questions on it, wait for her to check her email, then finally respond to me or c.) Carry on a real-time conversation using an instant messaging service.
I don't know about you, but my kid sister and I tried option B and it sucked and we are now pretty happy with option C especially since Yahoo got Voice Chat and i can thus literally talk to my sister for free.
Perhaps if you want to write a simple midi application or create cute little drawing effects. On the other hand if you are trying to write any sort of web enabled application everything turns to mud. Most of the networking APIs are not documented or at best have scanty documentation. More than once I wished/begged/prayed for a man page or an HTML API like Java has.Since there is no documentation one has to trace code to figure out what's going on and yes this can involve chasing variables through six methods in four different classes just to figure out what type.
For example if I wanted to find out what types I pass to an API method, it is not enough to go look at the source code of the method in the class browser Amazing huh. Instead one is better of finding somewhere where the method is called and trying to figure out what type was passed to the method. The names of variables passed to methods sadly have nothing to do with their classes and this can easily lead to much time wasted where a typename could do.
I do like the Simulations package though.:) Everything else just sucks way too badly. PS: Smalltalk handles simulations well though.
I can't understand the number of anti-sun post I've read so far. What is so wrong with wanting to keep the language in house to promote backwards compatibility and a uniform implementation of the language across all platforms?
Even though the STL and commands like static_cast, const_cast, dynamic_cast and reinterpret_cast are standard, how uniform is this implementation across platforms? I would rather have one strong vendor control the language and fight off those who seek to pollute it (hi Bill) than see a standards body bicker endlessly over what features to add and eventually fill the language with contradictory, dangerous and sometimes unnecessary features.... a la C++.
This is what MSFT has done and VB is now acknowledged to be the most widely used programming language in corporate America (sad isn't it). Pity no one sees fit to drag MSFT to a standards body so they can implement their own VB? Maybe VB jusn't isn't worth it...and Java is.
That opening line destroyed whatever credibility you could have established as someone who knows what he/she is talking about. Java is not, has not or ever will be a web applet language in fact what the fsck is a web applet language?
IIRC, Java was originally designed for embedded systems and workstations/servers. That's why the VM and portability was the main push behind the language. With the advent of the World Wide Web, Sun added a few tricks to Java and enabled people to write web applets. The funny thing though, is that now Java is primarily seen not as a GUI development language (better use C++ or VB if your a pseudo-programmer) but as a quick and powerful server side development language.
No offense but SmallTalk is the worst language I've ever used. I used it with Squeak ( a SmallTalk IDE) and have been scared for life. It's the easiest language in the world to obsfucate because THERE ARE NO TYPES. There's nothing like tracking a variable through 6 methods just to try and guess what type it is and failing.
The case was settled out of court. The man is probably going to lose the case because after almost getting sued by the previous lady from California, most credit card companies established some baseline rules for dealing with online gambling to ensure that there were no repeat lawsuits.
It IS communism in China regardless of what you want to label it as. That is what they call it when the government owns the means of production
I don't usually respond to ACs but what is practised in China isn't true communism.
[from http://www.monadnock.net/ismbook/ ] Communism is the political theory that the individual's actions should benefit the community or the state rather than the individual himself. It is the most radical kind of political collectivism, and depends on an equally radical collectivism or altruism in ethics. In practice, communism has always been a form of authoritarianism or of totalitarianism.
From what I've read about China in the past decade (I love the country's history) it seems to have shed most of its communist roots and is now almost completely totalitarian or authoritarian.
I'm also not a big fan of communism in its pure form. If an individual cannot reap the rewards of his/her innovations then the individual won't innovate.
Maybe now we'll find out the extent to which our privacy is being invaded for reasons of national security.
I wonder if Echelon monitors Slashdot posts as well?
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Why U don't see anything wrong with disabling part of the functionality of your browser to make it stable? Isn't stability while retaining functionality the reason most people switch from Windows to Linux?
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If you have IE 5.0, open Outlook Express and go to the Tools menu and select the Accounts... option. Add your hotmail account and voila... You've got mail. Use the Send and Receive option on the Tools menu to download/send mail. I've been using that exclusively to send mail for so long I had totally forgotten that hotmail has a web address.
Merry Xmas. Hope that I was of help.
PS: Does anyone know if slashdot cause this?
Original Post: But by not allowing dissemination and wide spread adoption of these business models it will only serve to retard the overall evolution of our economy.
Post I'm replying: Your retort doesn't apply to patents concerning business models, because the method employed is transparent to everyone -- humanity doesn't need anyone to spell it out on paper, because anyone in the business knows what business model
One question: So what if everybody knows what they are if they cannot use the patented business methods? The problem with patents now is that they are being used as a weapons: thus companies would rather not license patented processes so that their competition is overly handicapped or non-existent. e.g. Priceline vs. Expedia or Amazon vs. BN. This can only harm consumers in the long run because it limits choice and grants a natural monopoly to the patent holder. And we all know monopolies are a bad thing.
Why don't the developers get together for a class action lawsuit and at least get a slice of the pie?
Thanks for identifying yourself as a newbie not only to Slasdot but also to Linux as well. A quick intro is necessary...Firstly I'd like to know what grounds you want them to sue Redhat on?
Due to the nature of the GPL the developers that have contributed to the linux kernel and the Redhat distro have no beef with Redhat. Redhat has not violated the GPL in any way so that cannot be a reason to sue.
Secondly Redhat hires/supports a couple of the core kernel developers and thus these people have no more reason to sue Redhat than an employee of Dell, eBay, Microsoft or any other multibillion dollar company who draws a salary. Does this mean we can all sue our employers because our company's make millions in revenue while most of us make less than $100k a year? Thirdly Redhat did let developers get a slice of the pie with the letter...read about this here and here.
Now the only question I have to ask is; exactly how and for what reasons are developers going to sue Redhat?
It's one thing to bust your ass for your own greater glory, but how can you sit back and watch someone else profit handsomely from someone else's labor?
If you got the letter you have profitted handsomely since the IPO. If you didn't get the letter, I remember Redhat hovered between 40 & 80 for a few weeks, this would have been a good time to show solidarity for linux and invest in yourself (assuming you're an OSS developer for linux)....and you'd be profitting handsomely as well.
Finally and most importantly, OSS developers i have met were not and are still not in it for the money. I write code and give it away because I like writing code and I want people to use it and if they find any bugs and fix them whooopeee .
Lawsuit, paaah.
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I remember trying to submit the original story to slashdot last month but it was rejected for some strange reason.
Anyway what I was going to say was this...if IBM can get this stupid patent overturned by showing prior art from documents dating as far back as 1991, maybe we can do something about the Amazon patent. I know someone has implemented or described the process of storing user info in a cookie and keeping track of the user's behavior (don't say purchases I'm pretty sure Amazon got a jump on patenting it in a retail environment)... whoever has this info or knows someone who has this info should send that to B&N so they can build a portfolio of prior art. Hopefully we, as a community, can get this stupid patent overturned. It seems like it is about time for that open source patent database.
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From roblimo's post:
. I'm making a personal donation to the Leonardo Defense Fund, 425 Market Street, 2nd Floor, San Francisco, California, 94105, U.S.A. I strongly urge other Slashdot readers to take their own appropriate actions - short of lawbreaking or violence, of course.
From the post I am replying:
You aren't doing so hot where it counts. Stories about robots and the like are massively cool, but "strongly encouraging" me to send my money somewhere to defend against something I think is inane?
Now with both relevant sentences side to side i would like to ask bugzilla and all the moderators who believe this is worthy of a 5, where does roblimo strongly encourage anyone to send money...? he said he has sent money and strongly encourages every one to take appropriate action. Now since I am assuming that that slashdotters are generally of above average intelligence I feel stupid pointing out that all roblimo said is "I have sent money, do what you feel is right". Now unless everyone else on slashdot has been implanted with obedience chips or has had their logic circuits fried, how is this even mildly coercing people to send money? I would assume that the average slashdotter (i.e. geek, scientist, intelligent human being) is more individual than bugzilla and all the moderators who agreed with him think...and thus does not rush of to listen to the Who, or buy AIBOs or download Quake 1 source code simply because Roblimo or CmdrTaco suggests it. So why should they send money to some fund based on Rob's opinions only?
It seems that you are making the Slashdot a role model and are now complaining because you don't approve of this role model's behavior. Please stop this kind of thinking....I am already pissed at all the parents that have forced warning labels on everything I watch, listen to and read. We don't need that crap ( disclaimers and pseudo-censorship) on slashdot too. After all I had assumed that the slashdot readership was at least mature if not adult enough to take responsibility for their own actions.
I can't wait to stop seeing posts bitching about slashdot and its owners on this site. If you don't like it, leave, don't start fscking it up for us that are don't sweat the small stuff by posting you're view of how slashdot should be. If you feel that strongly about it...grab the source, create your own site, and stop bitching here.
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Here's a time magazine article,an interview , his bio.
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This was taken from the article:
"We have the best hackers in the world. We do not need to drink or smoke...We do not drink, smoke, have drugs and we don't have AIDS, that's what you have got in the West." quote by Vladimir Zhirinovsky
Russia is a heavy drinking nation which is struggling to catch up with economically-advanced countries on the use of new technologies, such as the Internet, but a lack of resources and poor infrastructure confines progress to big cities. following paragraph by Excite
Who said journalists don't have a sense of humor.
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However, it utilized MSFT's proprietary streaming video protocol. Furthermore, the Netscape plugin failed to work to any semblance of perfection, so I was forced to use IE. In my opinion, this was the biggest flaw in the course - especially something aimed at one who will be knowledgeable about computers (it was a graduate level course). The use of Real Player would have made me much more willing to participate in the course, as I had to reboot into an environment that I hated to listen to any lectures with Microsoft's protocol.
So the biggest failure in the course was not that you failed to learn anything useful or that your professor was an asshole but instead was that they choose to use one company's proprietary streaming audio player over another company's propriteary streaming audio, trojan horse spyware. Yep that seems like a utter failure to me.
It seems to me that a course aimed at people knowledgeable about computers would not ask its students to use trojan horse software.
PS: Anticipating your personal OS prejudices and adjusting their actions appropriately is not and should never be the concerns of any educational institution.
Just my $(2 * 10e-2)
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Sadly on Windows machines Real Player (and all its derivatives) has slowly but surely been outclassed by Windows Media Player kinda like with Navigator and IE. Too bad there can't be some sort of open source alternative Media Player...or can there (I dunno if/how this could work so I'm asking)?
Since Yahoo created the worlds sweetest browser plug in which coincidentally is Windows-only. It seems that Windows-only solutions are not anathema to Yahoo. I can only hope that enough people hit Broadcast.com from non-Windows boxes for us not to be an acceptable loss (i.e. over 5%).
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Moderate the parent of this post up...
I can count the amount of times I have been impressed by the contents of a post in the last month I have been reading Slashdot: 0. Until today.
This is one of the most intelligent, insightful and heartfelt posts I have ever read on Slashdot. Why the fsck are people making B&N out to be angels... remember You've Got Mail (Tom Hanks movie)...that was B&N being caricatured...is that who the Slashdot community loves? Why the fsck are people screaming boycott Amazon without mentioning viable alternatives? Where am I going to buy my books & CDs with the cost and service of B&N without supporting some other fscked corporate body? Where is all this indignation when corporations are killing freedom fighters?
PS: For all the people who keep posting their canned responses from Amazon from Erik Majick (sp?) and those who can't wait to tell us they are boycotting Amazon... please stop it's been done dozens of times already on Slashdot... please read this post and purchase a clue.
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This is great, with any luck most endangered species can have their embryos frozen and then can be birthed by more common cousin species. Of course this doesn't really help the white rhino, since I doubt that there are any common cousin species to the rhino.
Of course now one wonders how long it'll be before the Jurassic Park fans start wondering, "Where is a fly trapped in amber when you need one?".
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Don't understimate our effect. If we can demonstrate the need for this boycott clearly and concisely we can have a very large effect
Originally I beleived this but considering that this is the fourth time Slashdot has posted about Amazon and 1-click shopping in the past three months and nothing has happened, I don't see why this time should be any different, unless...(see bottom of post)
As an aside, it seems that the quality of posts this fourth time around is rather bad there were more insightful posts when we heard amazon got the patent, that they sued B&N, and when they won an injunction. It seems like now all the posts I've read even at a setting of 3 are at best rehashes of tired cliches that we've already seen three times (at least).
After so many posts at so many different times I was hoping to see at least one post where someone suggested an organized form of opposition to this... it seems Richard Stallman has to be this someone.
Personally I've been boycotting Amazon for the past 3 months but it is obvious this has had no effect so now I suggest that we should borrow a leaf from the Geocities homesteaders when they rebelled against Yahoo's TOS and won. Instead of just bitching about it or reading about people bitching about it...we should organize webpages (not one or two, there were dozens of anti-Geocities TOS webpages when Yahoo revised them), send emails out to the people you know that link to these webpages and ask them to forward your emails (I know that sounds suspiciously like spam/chain letters but it works), and finally boycott Amazon in all shape, form & fashion (if I remember correctly from earlier discussions of this topic don't even Amazon links to Slashdot when talking about a book, post a B&N link...that way we don't contribute to their eyeball count).
I know once I finish my finals I'll start work on constructing a website and creating letters to spread the word and start a grassroots resistance of this. Patenting using cookies to store credit card info harms all consumers who buy online, and we should make sure everyone realizes this.
Just my $0.02...after reading about this for the 4th time on Slashdot.
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It seems that the Australians cannot get past their ancestry no matter how they try. Australia's current inhabitants (the white one's at least) are descended from prisoners that were deemed too unsatisfactory to reside in English jails and were shipped to Australia. Considering that the continent was one big penal colony mainly populated by prisoners and their wardens, it is very interesting to note that the current population accepts (they do if not the government would be infringing on their privacy every other week...) almost any level of censorship or privacy invasion from their government.
This is not meant as flame bait but instead is my personal observation. Please respond intelligently.
PS: Wasn't it sad the way the cracker started his rant with such inspirational material only to end it with by the way I'm high on some crack. **sigh** He probably has reinvigorated the censorship board/committe??? and now they have a mental image of the kind of foul mouthed, drug addicts they want to "protect" the people of Australia from. They'll probably be handing his little rant out in leaflets with bold letters saying...This is the enemy... Save our children from him...
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The key issue here is this. This is _AOL'S_ software. Other companies want to walk in, grab a hold of their large userbase, and walk away with it. Now if these companies were half as inventive as they were greedy, they'd create their own chat network. But of course not. The scream of "Open standards" quickly rallies slashdotters into a frenzy before they look at the issue here. AOL _created and maintain AIM_ it is _theirs_ nobody has the right to tell them what standards they should and shouldn't use.
The key issue here is this. This is _AT&T's_ fibre. Other companies want to walk in, grab a hold of their large broadband base, and walk away with it. Now if these companies were half as inventive as they were greedy, they'd create their own broadband network. But of course not. The scream of "high bandwidth for everyone" quickly rallies slashdotters into a frenzy before they look at the issue here. AT&T _created and maintain their broadband network _ it is _theirs_ nobody has the right to tell them what they should and shouldn't do.
Just playing devil's advocate...feels funny when the shoe's on the other foot doesn't it AOL?
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Quick Question: What if I am a broke college student in the US and want to talk to my sister in the UK who I haven't seen in a year do I a.) Pay for an expensive phone call everytime I want to talk to her. b.) Send her an email with a bunch of questions on it, wait for her to check her email, then finally respond to me or c.) Carry on a real-time conversation using an instant messaging service.
I don't know about you, but my kid sister and I tried option B and it sucked and we are now pretty happy with option C especially since Yahoo got Voice Chat and i can thus literally talk to my sister for free.
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Perhaps if you want to write a simple midi application or create cute little drawing effects. On the other hand if you are trying to write any sort of web enabled application everything turns to mud. Most of the networking APIs are not documented or at best have scanty documentation. More than once I wished/begged/prayed for a man page or an HTML API like Java has.Since there is no documentation one has to trace code to figure out what's going on and yes this can involve chasing variables through six methods in four different classes just to figure out what type.
:) Everything else just sucks way too badly. PS: Smalltalk handles simulations well though.
For example if I wanted to find out what types I pass to an API method, it is not enough to go look at the source code of the method in the class browser Amazing huh. Instead one is better of finding somewhere where the method is called and trying to figure out what type was passed to the method. The names of variables passed to methods sadly have nothing to do with their classes and this can easily lead to much time wasted where a typename could do.
I do like the Simulations package though.
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I can't understand the number of anti-sun post I've read so far. What is so wrong with wanting to keep the language in house to promote backwards compatibility and a uniform implementation of the language across all platforms?
Even though the STL and commands like static_cast, const_cast, dynamic_cast and reinterpret_cast are standard, how uniform is this implementation across platforms? I would rather have one strong vendor control the language and fight off those who seek to pollute it (hi Bill) than see a standards body bicker endlessly over what features to add and eventually fill the language with contradictory, dangerous and sometimes unnecessary features.... a la C++.
This is what MSFT has done and VB is now acknowledged to be the most widely used programming language in corporate America (sad isn't it). Pity no one sees fit to drag MSFT to a standards body so they can implement their own VB? Maybe VB jusn't isn't worth it...and Java is.
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A web applet language [snip...]
That opening line destroyed whatever credibility you could have established as someone who knows what he/she is talking about. Java is not, has not or ever will be a web applet language in fact what the fsck is a web applet language?
IIRC, Java was originally designed for embedded systems and workstations/servers. That's why the VM and portability was the main push behind the language. With the advent of the World Wide Web, Sun added a few tricks to Java and enabled people to write web applets. The funny thing though, is that now Java is primarily seen not as a GUI development language (better use C++ or VB if your a pseudo-programmer) but as a quick and powerful server side development language.
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No offense but SmallTalk is the worst language I've ever used. I used it with Squeak ( a SmallTalk IDE) and have been scared for life. It's the easiest language in the world to obsfucate because THERE ARE NO TYPES. There's nothing like tracking a variable through 6 methods just to try and guess what type it is and failing.
PS: The pastel colors made me kind of nauseous.
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The case was settled out of court. The man is probably going to lose the case because after almost getting sued by the previous lady from California, most credit card companies established some baseline rules for dealing with online gambling to ensure that there were no repeat lawsuits.
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It IS communism in China regardless of what you want to label it as. That is what they call it when the government owns the means of production
I don't usually respond to ACs but what is practised in China isn't true communism.
[from http://www.monadnock.net/ismbook/ ]
Communism is the political theory that the individual's actions should benefit the community or the state rather than the individual himself. It is the most radical kind of political collectivism, and depends on an equally radical collectivism or altruism in ethics. In practice, communism has always been a form of authoritarianism or of totalitarianism.
From what I've read about China in the past decade (I love the country's history) it seems to have shed most of its communist roots and is now almost completely totalitarian or authoritarian.
I'm also not a big fan of communism in its pure form. If an individual cannot reap the rewards of his/her innovations then the individual won't innovate.
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(unless ie and outlook are so joined together ... possibly) They are....
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I thought samurai were Japanese?
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Maybe now we'll find out the extent to which our privacy is being invaded for reasons of national security.
I wonder if Echelon monitors Slashdot posts as well?
Qaddafi Panama cracking Serbian Peking FSF PLO BATF fissionable Clinton FBI KGB NORAD Nazi counter-intelligence Legion of Doom colonel Waco, Texas SDI Panama DES PLO spy nuclear assassination Cocaine Rule Psix fissionable South Africa NSA
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Why U don't see anything wrong with disabling part of the functionality of your browser to make it stable? Isn't stability while retaining functionality the reason most people switch from Windows to Linux?
Just wondering...
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