As a socialist-libertarian I agree. Putting restitution for wrongs in the people's hands in the form of civil law suits sounds good on the surface (by decentralizing authority, pushing power out to the edges) but economic realities can easily disenfranchise all but the wealthy (and the wealthiest are, without fail, corporations).
I think the real problem is that you (and lots of other people) are using an email system to do something it simply wasn't designed for, and it's a strain for the users, the administrators, and often for the server too.
I call bullshit-- email wasn't designed. It's an emergent form of electronic communication. Including more then plaintext is a natural extension of the mail metaphor. Indeed, it's clear that we _need_ to be able to send people files. And often the files deserve additional commentary. From an application point of view, the mail client is the most obvious way to do this.
There's no compelling reason why the mail server couldn't strip attachments and shove them onto a shared disk on the server, replacing them with a link to the attachment. A number of mailing list managers already support this.
RSS 1.0 failed and will continue to fail because it is a steaming pile of RDF and to handle a feed with extensions it requires that you use an RDF parser.
I agree in priciple but as far as I'm concerned Graphic Artists need to stay as far away from UI design as possible.
We've all used interfaces made by Graphic Artists. Every one of those superskinable apps falls into this category. By and large they are not being skinned by programmers.
Creating good UIs is a seperate skill from the graphic arts yet often the two are seen as one (with horrific results).
As I understand it, the pricing is NOT because of cost of living, exchange rate or any of those things. It's because, normally, people don't buy DVDs there. They rent them. Here in the US, prior to DVDs, the first few months of VHS release the tape would cost $40-$70 (sometimes more). The only folks who would buy it were video rental stores. Then once the video rental market had been tapped out the studios would release a retail version of the same video with the pricing we expect.
As I understand it, one of the major changes recently in the Japanese market is the introduction of reasonably priced media. IIRC this was introduced by Disney (who has a deal with Ghibli). Most production companies don't seem to have gone this way yet, but I'm sure they have an eye on the Disney/Ghibli experiment.
Mind you, OVAs aren't going to be priced this way since they have to make pretty much all of their money through sales to fans and to video rental stores. (For instance, the episodes of the third Tenchi Muyou OVA sell for just over 4000 yen.)
Re:... a win98 edit.com clone for linux?
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1) There is no effort. I mean, maybe there was when I was learning it... but that was back in '93-'94. 2) Isn't Thunderbird a mail client? Or is there another product with that name? 3) None.
Can your editor:
Run remotely with any amount of speed? (All of my work is done on remote servers -- I do nothing locally. It's true that I do use joe locally too but that's because I haven't found a graphical editor that I can make behave like it. I have a.emacs that's almost, but not quite the same.)
Continue editing sessions from computer to computer without intruption? (screen provides this nicely for any text based editor.)
Side note: One of joe's biggest features is its ability to edit arbitrarly large files. I can open up a 500 meg file in joe and it will only allocate about 7 megs of ram. Try this with almost any other editor (including vi and emacs) and you'll be sorry.
Different needs dictate different tools. Sometimes that dog walking on its hind legs is a lot more powerful then a moterized pink flamengo.
Re:I want semware Qedit
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Joe has all of those.
Column copy: ^Tx to switch to box selection mode, then use normal Joe selection.
Split windows: ^Ko
Macros: ^K[ followed by the macro number you want to record. ^K] to stop recording. ^K # to play back the macro. ^K? while recording will stop to ask for input.
Completely configurable -- see jpico, jmacs, jstar.
Fast and small -- it's optimized for slow links. And Joe 3.0 weighs in for me at 200k. nano is a bit smaller for me at 110k. vim is quite a bit larger at a meg. nvi is 324k.
Maybe it'd be worth working up a set of qedit bindings for joe?
Re:Why vim is better than joe (and obviously emacs
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Vim is not "upwards" compatible with vi. Watch a dedicated vim user try to use nvi. Laugh. A lot. Myself, I learned "ed" and then picked up vi and vim from that. Seriously. The "ed" skills _do_ translate directly to "vi" and "vim".
"vi" works like _you think_. It doesn't work the way I think. I don't plan out my edits ahead of time. It's an organic process for me.
As for emacs features, You've never seen anyone use those!!?! Seriously? Function tags are a godsend when working in a large, foreign code base. Though personally I can only use them with GUI emacs 'cause I can't remeber the M-x commands for them.
As for performance, Joe uses far FEWER system resources then vim.
$ ls -l/usr/bin/joe -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 171068 Aug 15 2003/usr/bin/joe* $ ls -l/usr/bin/vim -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1010840 Apr 1 18:51/usr/bin/vim*
Re:JOE and I go way back...
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I once had to use Joe over a painfully overloaded satelite E1 link. Massive packet loss, terrible latency. But I was able to easily queue commands and follow the screen redraws, much to the shock of my vi using collegues (who thought they would be alone in this).
It's actually been under heavy development again for a couple years now. But all of that was going into cleaning/modernizing the source code. Joe did not use autoconf/automake before, now it does. Changing to autoconf/automake on an existing project that's already widely ported is no small feat.
Just 'cause YOU can't see the changes doesn't mean that it's not seeing a lot of development.
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I can do all of those except inlineing graphics (which would be useless in a text editor is it would be unsaveable) with joe (or any good Unix editor like vi or emacs) and a good terminal emulator, like, say, "rxvt" or "Terminal.app".
somehow I thing that not as many people would get into programming by tinkering with the macro language of your typical generic office suite, for example. I did. One of my first languages was FRED from Framework III. Incredibly Framework still exists, it's now Framework VII. It was owned in the III days by Ashton-Tate (remember them?) Ahh, for the days of DOS office suites...
E-mail: epodkletnov@hotmail.com
Are they so poor in russia that their universities do not have their own domian presence?
In countries with poorer Internet infrastructures it's not uncommon to see people using hotmail and other free email services instead of local popmail, just because it's more reliable. For instance, this was common practice in Kuwait just two years ago, and may still be, though their Internet connections have improved a lot (at the time the entire country was connected via a single E1).
This is probably why the MPAA is so cranky about DECSS. Because now it is
possible to change the region now on the DVDs and then cut different discs
(in a hidden factory somewhere) and stamp out millions of copies.
But this was already possible. As soon as they let someone release a software DVD player it was possible to make a digital copy of the movie. Even before that it was easy to make a lower quality knock off by recording the analog signal (Macrovision can't work with highend (component) outputs). So I still don't understand how DECSS can be related to piracy... it seems like a straw man to me. "Piracy is bad. That's why you shouldn't like DeCSS." Without ever showing how the two can be connected.
Answer: To try and prevent mass illegal copying of disks (A multi million dollars industry in China and the former soviet union). To also allow DVD players in heavily censored countries (china et al) to only be able to play DVD's that are APPROVED of in that country!!
Uhm, how can it possibly be an attempt to prevent mass copying? I would think that when the pirate makes the copy they can change the region code to All regions if they like. Or even if they didn't, exactly what about the region code system would stop them from making the copy?
Seems to me that its much more about trying to regionalize the world economy so that they can price descriminate. That is, the markets in different regions work in very different ways and they want to be able to stop people from simply importing a copy from another, cheaper, region. Of course, they've had this option all along, but with global mail order (read: ecommerce) on the rise, and of course the ability for DVDs to have multiple languages and subtitle tracks, it is finally starting to become a risk.
As soon as these corporations start doing harm to nations and citizens as a
result, the international community will simply install a taxation system
and control system to reign in the nasty companies, and nasty they will be.
I agree. It will be what brings about strong world government. Just as the
industrial revolution created strong national government, when companies
became too large for any one state to control.
NO company does good by way of its workers or the environment or community
without the threat of government-sanctioned punishment for transgressing.
They would pay the lowest, most poverty-pertetuation wages, pollute like
bastards, without regulation.
This is not wholely true. It is becoming more and more recognized that it
is often in a companies best long term interest to improve the state of the
people who work for them and the places in which they do business. This a
big part of what the total quality movement is about. To me, it seems like
a superior model. With a little luck, the businesses that adopt superior
long range vision will last long enough to outlive their short sighted
cousins.
Taxation WILL begin once not paying (only fair) taxes begins to hurt
much-loved and desired social programs.
Yes indeed. People forget far too easily what their taxes actually do pay
for.
> I like Anime, but I have to hunt for the good titles. It's just like
> American television, the majority of it sucks.
Yeah, the majority of everything is crap, and it isn't different anywhere
else in the world.
> I recently got some Lain DVDs. I watched the first Episode and wasn't too
> impressed. It seemed very formulaic; Lain has parents who don't pay
> attention to her, but we really don't know why. They're just some
> sterotypical 'apathetic parents'. It's all very one-dimentional. Lain is a
> sad sad girl.. why? Who knows. Overall it seemed like the characters are
> going through the motions of some dramatic plot, but there isn't anything
> there.
Wow! I never looked at the first episode quite that way... your description
is remarkably accurate for what's actually going on in the story...
Forgive me while I plug my site.
I run an anime review site at:
http://anime.mikomi.org/
It special in that it allows any visitor to post/edit their own reviews on the site.
Problem #1, the server on x.org is compiled against glibc 2.1 and segfaults on 2.0, this is the first time that this happens.
Problem #2 NOBODY in the debian camp tried to create a slink, 2.0 version of the package, since everybody is so busy making potato so good.
So did you try building the 2.1 source package on your system? Most of the time it works. I don't use Debian (Redhat 5.x here) but that's what I've done when I encounter glibc 2.1 packages.
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As a socialist-libertarian I agree. Putting restitution for wrongs in the people's hands in the form of civil law suits sounds good on the surface (by decentralizing authority, pushing power out to the edges) but economic realities can easily disenfranchise all but the wealthy (and the wealthiest are, without fail, corporations).
Sorry, you're wrong. See the singular their.
I call bullshit-- email wasn't designed. It's an emergent form of electronic communication. Including more then plaintext is a natural extension of the mail metaphor. Indeed, it's clear that we _need_ to be able to send people files. And often the files deserve additional commentary. From an application point of view, the mail client is the most obvious way to do this.
There's no compelling reason why the mail server couldn't strip attachments and shove them onto a shared disk on the server, replacing them with a link to the attachment. A number of mailing list managers already support this.
RSS 1.0 failed and will continue to fail because it is a steaming pile of RDF and to handle a feed with extensions it requires that you use an RDF parser.
So you would prefer that people use propaganda that they believe to false?
You aren't really saying that, are you?
I agree in priciple but as far as I'm concerned Graphic Artists need to stay as far away from UI design as possible.
We've all used interfaces made by Graphic Artists. Every one of those superskinable apps falls into this category. By and large they are not being skinned by programmers.
Creating good UIs is a seperate skill from the graphic arts yet often the two are seen as one (with horrific results).
mplayer is only useful from the command line, IMHO.
As I understand it, the pricing is NOT because of cost of living, exchange rate or any of those things. It's because, normally, people don't buy DVDs there. They rent them. Here in the US, prior to DVDs, the first few months of VHS release the tape would cost $40-$70 (sometimes more). The only folks who would buy it were video rental stores. Then once the video rental market had been tapped out the studios would release a retail version of the same video with the pricing we expect.
As I understand it, one of the major changes recently in the Japanese market is the introduction of reasonably priced media. IIRC this was introduced by Disney (who has a deal with Ghibli). Most production companies don't seem to have gone this way yet, but I'm sure they have an eye on the Disney/Ghibli experiment.
Mind you, OVAs aren't going to be priced this way since they have to make pretty much all of their money through sales to fans and to video rental stores. (For instance, the episodes of the third Tenchi Muyou OVA sell for just over 4000 yen.)
1) There is no effort. I mean, maybe there was when I was learning it... but that was back in '93-'94.
.emacs that's almost, but not quite the same.)
2) Isn't Thunderbird a mail client? Or is there another product with that name?
3) None.
Can your editor:
Run remotely with any amount of speed? (All of my work is done on remote servers -- I do nothing locally. It's true that I do use joe locally too but that's because I haven't found a graphical editor that I can make behave like it. I have a
Continue editing sessions from computer to computer without intruption? (screen provides this nicely for any text based editor.)
Side note: One of joe's biggest features is its ability to edit arbitrarly large files. I can open up a 500 meg file in joe and it will only allocate about 7 megs of ram. Try this with almost any other editor (including vi and emacs) and you'll be sorry.
Different needs dictate different tools. Sometimes that dog walking on its hind legs is a lot more powerful then a moterized pink flamengo.
Joe has all of those.
Column copy: ^Tx to switch to box selection mode, then use normal Joe selection.
Split windows: ^Ko
Macros: ^K[ followed by the macro number you want to record. ^K] to stop recording. ^K # to play back the macro. ^K? while recording will stop to ask for input.
Completely configurable -- see jpico, jmacs, jstar.
Fast and small -- it's optimized for slow links. And Joe 3.0 weighs in for me at 200k. nano is a bit smaller for me at 110k. vim is quite a bit larger at a meg. nvi is 324k.
Maybe it'd be worth working up a set of qedit bindings for joe?
Vim is not "upwards" compatible with vi. Watch a dedicated vim user try to use nvi. Laugh. A lot.
/usr/bin/joe /usr/bin/joe* /usr/bin/vim /usr/bin/vim*
Myself, I learned "ed" and then picked up vi and vim from that. Seriously. The "ed" skills _do_ translate directly to "vi" and "vim".
"vi" works like _you think_. It doesn't work the way I think. I don't plan out my edits ahead of time. It's an organic process for me.
As for emacs features, You've never seen anyone use those!!?! Seriously? Function tags are a godsend when working in a large, foreign code base. Though personally I can only use them with GUI emacs 'cause I can't remeber the M-x commands for them.
As for performance, Joe uses far FEWER system resources then vim.
$ ls -l
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 171068 Aug 15 2003
$ ls -l
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1010840 Apr 1 18:51
I once had to use Joe over a painfully overloaded satelite E1 link. Massive packet loss, terrible latency. But I was able to easily queue commands and follow the screen redraws, much to the shock of my vi using collegues (who thought they would be alone in this).
It's actually been under heavy development again for a couple years now. But all of that was going into cleaning/modernizing the source code. Joe did not use autoconf/automake before, now it does. Changing to autoconf/automake on an existing project that's already widely ported is no small feat.
Just 'cause YOU can't see the changes doesn't mean that it's not seeing a lot of development.
I can do all of those except inlineing graphics (which would be useless in a text editor is it would be unsaveable) with joe (or any good Unix editor like vi or emacs) and a good terminal emulator, like, say, "rxvt" or "Terminal.app".
Object Oriented Perl
Courier is an MTA as well.
o urier-mta.org/
<a href="http://www.courier-mta.org/">
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</a>
somehow I thing that not as many people would get into programming by tinkering with the macro language of your typical generic office suite, for example.
I did. One of my first languages was FRED from Framework III. Incredibly Framework still exists, it's now Framework VII. It was owned in the III days by Ashton-Tate (remember them?) Ahh, for the days of DOS office suites...
This is probably why the MPAA is so cranky about DECSS. Because now it is possible to change the region now on the DVDs and then cut different discs (in a hidden factory somewhere) and stamp out millions of copies.
But this was already possible. As soon as they let someone release a software DVD player it was possible to make a digital copy of the movie. Even before that it was easy to make a lower quality knock off by recording the analog signal (Macrovision can't work with highend (component) outputs). So I still don't understand how DECSS can be related to piracy... it seems like a straw man to me. "Piracy is bad. That's why you shouldn't like DeCSS." Without ever showing how the two can be connected.
Answer: To try and prevent mass illegal copying of disks (A multi million dollars industry in China and the former soviet union). To also allow DVD players in heavily censored countries (china et al) to only be able to play DVD's that are APPROVED of in that country!!
Uhm, how can it possibly be an attempt to prevent mass copying? I would think that when the pirate makes the copy they can change the region code to All regions if they like. Or even if they didn't, exactly what about the region code system would stop them from making the copy?
Seems to me that its much more about trying to regionalize the world economy so that they can price descriminate. That is, the markets in different regions work in very different ways and they want to be able to stop people from simply importing a copy from another, cheaper, region. Of course, they've had this option all along, but with global mail order (read: ecommerce) on the rise, and of course the ability for DVDs to have multiple languages and subtitle tracks, it is finally starting to become a risk.
As soon as these corporations start doing harm to nations and citizens as a result, the international community will simply install a taxation system and control system to reign in the nasty companies, and nasty they will be.
I agree. It will be what brings about strong world government. Just as the industrial revolution created strong national government, when companies became too large for any one state to control.
NO company does good by way of its workers or the environment or community without the threat of government-sanctioned punishment for transgressing. They would pay the lowest, most poverty-pertetuation wages, pollute like bastards, without regulation.
This is not wholely true. It is becoming more and more recognized that it is often in a companies best long term interest to improve the state of the people who work for them and the places in which they do business. This a big part of what the total quality movement is about. To me, it seems like a superior model. With a little luck, the businesses that adopt superior long range vision will last long enough to outlive their short sighted cousins.
Taxation WILL begin once not paying (only fair) taxes begins to hurt much-loved and desired social programs.
Yes indeed. People forget far too easily what their taxes actually do pay for.
> I like Anime, but I have to hunt for the good titles. It's just like
> American television, the majority of it sucks.
Yeah, the majority of everything is crap, and it isn't different anywhere
else in the world.
> I recently got some Lain DVDs. I watched the first Episode and wasn't too
> impressed. It seemed very formulaic; Lain has parents who don't pay
> attention to her, but we really don't know why. They're just some
> sterotypical 'apathetic parents'. It's all very one-dimentional. Lain is a
> sad sad girl.. why? Who knows. Overall it seemed like the characters are
> going through the motions of some dramatic plot, but there isn't anything
> there.
Wow! I never looked at the first episode quite that way... your description
is remarkably accurate for what's actually going on in the story...
Forgive me while I plug my site.
I run an anime review site at:
http://anime.mikomi.org/
It special in that it allows any visitor to post/edit their own reviews on the site.
This review that a friend of mine wrote a while back seems relavent to the discussion here.