Indeed, or to be more specific it's what you get for your money, the big problem I've had in the past when I've shopped around for a good tablet has been that I've wanted a few things:
Wacom "Penabled"
Good monitor.
Decent price
Last time I looked around most manufacturers seemed to almost make it a point not to mention anything other than "it has a stylus" (are you sure? wow! I thought I would have to operate it by throwing rocks at it!) and the monitor's quality is at best an afterthought. The exception to this was the "executive" tablet market, the ones marketed and CxOs and PHBs who think it makes perfect sense to blow $4k on a top of the line laptop that can also be used as a tablet when showing powerpoint slides, but since all I wanted was a combined "sofa surf tablet" and an electronic sketchbook (to cut out the scanner as the middleman as well as allowing me to have a much more comfortable workflow compared to sketching with a pencil (just undo and an eraser that doesn't slowly destroy the "paper" are enough for me to want this)) these are way too much.
I had high hopes for the iPad but without a proper stylus it's useless to me (no, "fingerpainting" with one of those "iPhone stylus" sticks isn't anywhere near good enough unless they've somehow managed to build one that equips the touchscreen with 500+ level pressure sensitivity and sub-pixel precision (no, they don't have this)).
If it was saying "underage girlz 11yr old" then it's pretty obvious, but "suspicious" doesn't seem to mean definitely KP.
I remember back when Gnutella was still considered new and cool, a few of us had access to an E1 (2 Mbps) connection and we'd frequently leave a gnutella client running overnight downloading every media file it could find just to see what we'd get, there were plenty of pictures and videos that had names like "daddy rapes 10 year old daughter hot hot hot.gif.bmp.jpg" that were just bog-standard "just 18"/"barely legal" porn. I've also had popup windows on the web (years ago when there weren't all that many competent popup blockers) send me to sites that openly claimed to host illegal stuff yet even a cursory glance showed the same array of 25 to 30-year old women that feature in all "barely legal" porn...
You're right in that it sucks that you can be standards compliant and still render things differently from another standards compliant browser, but it's important to note that the differences between Gecko, WebKit and Opera's rendering engine are generally quite small and can often easily be worked around in the last day or two of a large project, but when it comes to Trident it's like entering non-euclidiean space, menus disappear or appear on the wrong side of a page, other elements magically ignore that you just told them their size and none of this ever has a simple "oh, we'll just tweak it a little" solution, it always seems to involve moving stuff around a lot and writing mangled IE-specific non-standards compliant CSS just to trick Trident into rendering things the right way.
So yeah, there is a problem with ambiguity in the standards but Trident rendering standards compliant sites so wrong they're not even usable is a much bigger issue which will hopefully be solved if we can get IE to no longer have a majority share of the browser market.
There was an article a while back in Linux Journal (iirc) about a model done in.nl or somewhere that the building was the ISPs customer, and the building took care of fanning out from there.. True, you'll get alot of poorly designed/built/administered networks, but it'd prob up the count.
There was a lot of that kind of thinking going around here Sweden in the late 90's and early 2000's but trust me when I say it's a good thing it's slowly going away in favor of open citynets (city owns the net (or the company that owns the net) and charges ISPs a small per-customer fee for all customers the ISPs have in the citynet).
It wasn't just an issue of poorly setup building networks, it was also about landlords or organisations who owned buildings who didn't know anything about networks and decided that "sure, 10/1 Mbps and a 5 GB/month cap for SEK 599 per apartment sounds awesome!" while the neighbouring building that had Bredbandsbolaget got 100/10 Mbps for half that price and without a cap (but hey, the landlord probably saved a few hundred on the installation costs).
What price per downloaded Gigabit? (yes, small b means bit, big B means Byte)
I thought those schemes were pretty much dead in the civilized world (and a while back some americans and canadians tried to convince me that they were practically dead everywhere in the US and Canada as well;).
...has effectively outlawed incadescents and replaced them with CFLs, has the EU power demand dropped?
You can still buy regular light-bulbs here in Sweden, the first step was apparently only to outlaw the sale of certain lightbulbs (not the common 25, 40 and 60W bulbs that are the most common ones).
It'll probably take a couple of years before the results (if any) can be seen.
I think you're wrong, most of them don't fully understand the issues, they just think "me not big rich company with lots of sooper secrit datas, me no waste money on intarwebs man" (yeah, I'm an ass) even though they may very well have good reason to avoid getting themselves hijacked by some random bot or kid (Just because you don't have millions in the bank doesn't mean you're not interesting to a criminal or that it wont hurt for you if all your money disappears, or how about "oh, and what's this $200k loan? I don't remember taking out another OH SHIT!"?)
It's the same kind of reasoning that people use when they choose not to wear a seatbelt when driving, but while most drivers don't know the odds of getting in a crash most computer users don't even know what the risks are (it would be like a driver being only vaguely aware of "bad things" possibly happening if he doesn't drive safely and doesn't wear a seatbelt), I've seen way too many machines that had bots known for stealing banking info on them where the owner of the machine just handwaved away my concerns with some "oh well, nothing bad has happened so far and it's not like anyone would bother stealing from me..." spiel. My response in those cases is to point out that as a friend I will help them fix their problem now but if they decline I will hang up if they call me in the future with any kind of computer problem.
Dear Mr Troll, what are you rambling about? The post you replied to simply explained why microsoft.com wasn't on the list of the 100 oldest.com domains and was absolutely correct in that as far as they were concerned MSN was the network of the future and that it wasn't until the mid-90s that MS started taking the internet seriously.
Basically, the parent and grandparent posts had nothing to do with AOL or Compuserve.
It's high school class, it makes sense to introduce some practical elements as most HS students interested in CS would likely decide to major in creative writing if their intro to CS was "Welcome to intro to CS, today we're going to deal with quicksort, binary trees and compiler optimization".
Don't forget the obligatory #projectname-help channel where any questions are answered with some variation on "RTFM" even though the project documentation is a standard README file, a CHANGELOG file, some GPL info and an uncommented listing of the various classes and functions that's seemingly intended for those actually developing the software (and which is practically useless to the end user even when the end user is another developer since knowing there a Foo class, a Bar class and Frongle class doesn't really help when you're trying to figure out how to use the library/app in a safe and sane way).
I have to disagree with you about artistic integrity, it's definitely something that should be respected.
I do however agree that it gets thrown around a bit too much in situations where it's not applicable, for me it's mostly a matter of allowing the artist to have a say in how his/her artwork is presented to the viewer/listener. How you choose to listen to Dark side of the moon shouldn't be up to the artist but how the album is being sold should definitely be something that Pink floyd should have a say in (before copyright expires but that's a different issue). I feel the same way about something like say, a painting, if an artist insists that any "official" reproductions of his works are to always be reproduced in a way that includes the entire artwork then that should be respected by whatever company has managed to license the right to make posters featuring his/her paintings, if the buyer wants a cropped version of a painting he/she should just have to do the cropping himself/herself.
This kind of reminds me of the Grateful Dead documentary "Anthem to beauty" where they talked about how they wanted Anthem of the sun to just be one long song and the record company had to talk them into splitting it into tracks because the record company people just couldn't wrap their heads around the idea of songs longer than 3 or 4 minutes.
In both cases there are clearly different parts of the album which are named and numbered but they're still meant to be played in order. A good comparison might be a large painting, the artist may very well want any reproductions to show the entire painting and not just the most popular 1/8 of the painting and this is exactly the sort of thing that I feel copyright is good for, protecting the artist's right to determine how his art is reproduced.
I'd love to but the only local bands who do shows around here seem to be metal bands who mostly play crappy covers of famous metal and rock songs and punk bands where none of the members are over 18...
You're assuming that most customers would not fix their equipment and that they would switch to another ISP, my experience tells me otherwise, most users will rather fix their own equipment than change ISPs.
Also, did you notice the second paragraph where I mentioned ISPs actually using these rules against other ISPs who are their customers? We're not talking about Bargain Bob's Discount Intarwebs here, we're talking about Level 3, TeliaSonera, Verizon, AT&T et al actually bothering to disconnect Bargain Bob's Discount No Questions Asked As Long As You Pay Us Intarwebs from their networks. There's a fairly small number of Tier 1 and regional Tier 1 ISPs out there and once a "rogue" smaller ISP gets blacklisted with a few of these it's likely the others will do the same.
I have no trouble imagining that religion will still be around hundreds of years from now but I am offended by your use of Star Wars as an example of sci-fi with religions in it, Star Wars is to sci-fi as watching a counter strike match is to professional sports.
Well, most legit ISPs regardless of size tend to put a clause in their ToS about their customers not being allowed to do things that disrupt the network, and spamming and DDoS attacks seem like good enough reasons for claiming someone is disrupting the network. Hell, when I worked the abuse desk for an ISP we would warn residential customers after we got the first indication or complaint about them, disconnect them and send them a letter the second time and only reconnect when they contacted us and verified that they had fixed the problem, if there were any further complaints we would often just cut them off completely (sometimes giving them the option to present us with a receipt from a computer store showing that they'd had their computer looked at by someone there before finally cutting them off).
No reason to make this about laws that tell ISPs what they must police in their networks, if the respectable and serious ISPs start taking their own Terms of service seriously and actually act on them even when the customer is another ISP then we'd have a lot fewer problems with botnets and spam.
Well, a bunch of guys (spammers) from specialham decided that BlueFrog was working a bit too well at killing spam so they basically threw everything they had at Blue security while simultaneously launching a massive propaganda and FUD campaign online (where they made all sorts of unsubstantiated claims about Blue Security and the BlueFrog software).
This kind of behaviour from spammers is one of the reasons I wouldn't be the least bit upset if the top 10 spammers in the world were all found one morning with holes in their heads, hopefully it would at least dissuade others (and stop these particular asshats).
And you forgot about the master's degree in Computer Science with a specialization in financial processing algorithms for currency exchange trading and their implementation in autonomous combat vehicles.
Ok, I haven't seen anything that extreme but it's pretty funny to read articles in trade magazines where some hiring manager whines about there being no developers available on the job market at the same time as they have ads out with requirements not far off from the above...
Did you really expect to make one decision once, and profit without further effort from it forever? Why are you so special? No one else gets that deal.
Well, the reason so many people hope for and invest in this sort of thing is because there really are those who manage to make it this way, and it's not just lottery winners either, there is a small handful of people out there who just happened to invest a few thousand dollar in some friend's crazy startup company that went huge. But for every guy like that there's a thousand who just lost their money.
Well, good luck finding internships when companies are in that "We won't hire anyone with less than ten years of experience" phase that practically all of them were in after the dot bomb. Oh, I'm sure in certain places there were still jobs and internships for those without experience but around here it seemed like everyone just stopped hiring completely for a few years (of course, in reality they did hire people, they just preferred to hire people they knew were reliable and who had solid experience which meant jobs weren't really "on the market" in the same way as they normally are).
Well, that's $347 million out of a total of $12,731 million.
I also took the liberty to look up the GDP of Sweden in the late 1940s and early 1950s as well as the exchange SEK to USD exchange rate back in those days. Since you mentioned 1950 we'll go with that year. In 1950 Sweden received $260,000,000 through the Marshall plan. That same year the Swedish GDP was SEK 39,426,346,000 which was worth about $7,611,000,000 at the time. The swedish GDP for the years prior to and after 1950 was similar (although it was steadily growing) and somehow I doubt that the $48,000,000 Sweden received in 1949 was all that important (the GDP was roughly SEK 31,000,000,000 that year).
But hey, if it makes you feel good to think that a little "please don't become commies" bribe you gave us in the 1940s is what made it possible for us to have a decent telecommunications infrastructure then go right ahead.
Actually, my experience from working tech support here in Sweden in the years after the dot bomb was that a lot of the incompetent ones entrenched themselves in "safe" positions and focused on job security and climbing the corporate ladder, it's amazing how many completely inept "senior" sysadmins there are that need to call in an expensive consultant just to make basic configuration changes to systems that they're supposed to be experts on.
At least you got to experience those "golden years", I was still in school when the dot bomb hit. Admittedly I decided not to go directly from high school to the job market because I was convinced the whole thing would blow up, but what I didn't know was that entering the job market in the post-bomb years with no experience and straight out of college meant most employers would assume I was just another one of those "hey, there's gold in them thar intarwebs" guys who was just trying to make lots of money.
Sadly I knew as a kid (as in, by the early 90s) that I wanted to be a programmer/developer and first started coding a couple of years earlier at age 8, didn't help one bit since every employer assumed I hadn't even known what a computer was until 1999 or so, spent 2.5 years doing first and second line tech support for ISPs before getting a "real" job.:(
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It's also about the price.
Indeed, or to be more specific it's what you get for your money, the big problem I've had in the past when I've shopped around for a good tablet has been that I've wanted a few things:
Last time I looked around most manufacturers seemed to almost make it a point not to mention anything other than "it has a stylus" (are you sure? wow! I thought I would have to operate it by throwing rocks at it!) and the monitor's quality is at best an afterthought. The exception to this was the "executive" tablet market, the ones marketed and CxOs and PHBs who think it makes perfect sense to blow $4k on a top of the line laptop that can also be used as a tablet when showing powerpoint slides, but since all I wanted was a combined "sofa surf tablet" and an electronic sketchbook (to cut out the scanner as the middleman as well as allowing me to have a much more comfortable workflow compared to sketching with a pencil (just undo and an eraser that doesn't slowly destroy the "paper" are enough for me to want this)) these are way too much.
I had high hopes for the iPad but without a proper stylus it's useless to me (no, "fingerpainting" with one of those "iPhone stylus" sticks isn't anywhere near good enough unless they've somehow managed to build one that equips the touchscreen with 500+ level pressure sensitivity and sub-pixel precision (no, they don't have this)).
If it was saying "underage girlz 11yr old" then it's pretty obvious, but "suspicious" doesn't seem to mean definitely KP.
I remember back when Gnutella was still considered new and cool, a few of us had access to an E1 (2 Mbps) connection and we'd frequently leave a gnutella client running overnight downloading every media file it could find just to see what we'd get, there were plenty of pictures and videos that had names like "daddy rapes 10 year old daughter hot hot hot.gif.bmp.jpg" that were just bog-standard "just 18"/"barely legal" porn. I've also had popup windows on the web (years ago when there weren't all that many competent popup blockers) send me to sites that openly claimed to host illegal stuff yet even a cursory glance showed the same array of 25 to 30-year old women that feature in all "barely legal" porn...
You're right in that it sucks that you can be standards compliant and still render things differently from another standards compliant browser, but it's important to note that the differences between Gecko, WebKit and Opera's rendering engine are generally quite small and can often easily be worked around in the last day or two of a large project, but when it comes to Trident it's like entering non-euclidiean space, menus disappear or appear on the wrong side of a page, other elements magically ignore that you just told them their size and none of this ever has a simple "oh, we'll just tweak it a little" solution, it always seems to involve moving stuff around a lot and writing mangled IE-specific non-standards compliant CSS just to trick Trident into rendering things the right way.
So yeah, there is a problem with ambiguity in the standards but Trident rendering standards compliant sites so wrong they're not even usable is a much bigger issue which will hopefully be solved if we can get IE to no longer have a majority share of the browser market.
There was an article a while back in Linux Journal (iirc) about a model done in .nl or somewhere that the building was the ISPs customer, and the building took care of fanning out from there.. True, you'll get alot of poorly designed/built/administered networks, but it'd prob up the count.
There was a lot of that kind of thinking going around here Sweden in the late 90's and early 2000's but trust me when I say it's a good thing it's slowly going away in favor of open citynets (city owns the net (or the company that owns the net) and charges ISPs a small per-customer fee for all customers the ISPs have in the citynet).
It wasn't just an issue of poorly setup building networks, it was also about landlords or organisations who owned buildings who didn't know anything about networks and decided that "sure, 10/1 Mbps and a 5 GB/month cap for SEK 599 per apartment sounds awesome!" while the neighbouring building that had Bredbandsbolaget got 100/10 Mbps for half that price and without a cap (but hey, the landlord probably saved a few hundred on the installation costs).
What price per downloaded Gigabit? (yes, small b means bit, big B means Byte)
I thought those schemes were pretty much dead in the civilized world (and a while back some americans and canadians tried to convince me that they were practically dead everywhere in the US and Canada as well ;).
...has effectively outlawed incadescents and replaced them with CFLs, has the EU power demand dropped?
You can still buy regular light-bulbs here in Sweden, the first step was apparently only to outlaw the sale of certain lightbulbs (not the common 25, 40 and 60W bulbs that are the most common ones).
It'll probably take a couple of years before the results (if any) can be seen.
I think you're wrong, most of them don't fully understand the issues, they just think "me not big rich company with lots of sooper secrit datas, me no waste money on intarwebs man" (yeah, I'm an ass) even though they may very well have good reason to avoid getting themselves hijacked by some random bot or kid (Just because you don't have millions in the bank doesn't mean you're not interesting to a criminal or that it wont hurt for you if all your money disappears, or how about "oh, and what's this $200k loan? I don't remember taking out another OH SHIT!"?)
It's the same kind of reasoning that people use when they choose not to wear a seatbelt when driving, but while most drivers don't know the odds of getting in a crash most computer users don't even know what the risks are (it would be like a driver being only vaguely aware of "bad things" possibly happening if he doesn't drive safely and doesn't wear a seatbelt), I've seen way too many machines that had bots known for stealing banking info on them where the owner of the machine just handwaved away my concerns with some "oh well, nothing bad has happened so far and it's not like anyone would bother stealing from me..." spiel. My response in those cases is to point out that as a friend I will help them fix their problem now but if they decline I will hang up if they call me in the future with any kind of computer problem.
Dear Mr Troll, what are you rambling about? The post you replied to simply explained why microsoft.com wasn't on the list of the 100 oldest .com domains and was absolutely correct in that as far as they were concerned MSN was the network of the future and that it wasn't until the mid-90s that MS started taking the internet seriously.
Basically, the parent and grandparent posts had nothing to do with AOL or Compuserve.
It's high school class, it makes sense to introduce some practical elements as most HS students interested in CS would likely decide to major in creative writing if their intro to CS was "Welcome to intro to CS, today we're going to deal with quicksort, binary trees and compiler optimization".
Don't forget the obligatory #projectname-help channel where any questions are answered with some variation on "RTFM" even though the project documentation is a standard README file, a CHANGELOG file, some GPL info and an uncommented listing of the various classes and functions that's seemingly intended for those actually developing the software (and which is practically useless to the end user even when the end user is another developer since knowing there a Foo class, a Bar class and Frongle class doesn't really help when you're trying to figure out how to use the library/app in a safe and sane way).
I have to disagree with you about artistic integrity, it's definitely something that should be respected.
I do however agree that it gets thrown around a bit too much in situations where it's not applicable, for me it's mostly a matter of allowing the artist to have a say in how his/her artwork is presented to the viewer/listener. How you choose to listen to Dark side of the moon shouldn't be up to the artist but how the album is being sold should definitely be something that Pink floyd should have a say in (before copyright expires but that's a different issue). I feel the same way about something like say, a painting, if an artist insists that any "official" reproductions of his works are to always be reproduced in a way that includes the entire artwork then that should be respected by whatever company has managed to license the right to make posters featuring his/her paintings, if the buyer wants a cropped version of a painting he/she should just have to do the cropping himself/herself.
This kind of reminds me of the Grateful Dead documentary "Anthem to beauty" where they talked about how they wanted Anthem of the sun to just be one long song and the record company had to talk them into splitting it into tracks because the record company people just couldn't wrap their heads around the idea of songs longer than 3 or 4 minutes.
In both cases there are clearly different parts of the album which are named and numbered but they're still meant to be played in order. A good comparison might be a large painting, the artist may very well want any reproductions to show the entire painting and not just the most popular 1/8 of the painting and this is exactly the sort of thing that I feel copyright is good for, protecting the artist's right to determine how his art is reproduced.
I'd love to but the only local bands who do shows around here seem to be metal bands who mostly play crappy covers of famous metal and rock songs and punk bands where none of the members are over 18...
You're assuming that most customers would not fix their equipment and that they would switch to another ISP, my experience tells me otherwise, most users will rather fix their own equipment than change ISPs.
Also, did you notice the second paragraph where I mentioned ISPs actually using these rules against other ISPs who are their customers? We're not talking about Bargain Bob's Discount Intarwebs here, we're talking about Level 3, TeliaSonera, Verizon, AT&T et al actually bothering to disconnect Bargain Bob's Discount No Questions Asked As Long As You Pay Us Intarwebs from their networks. There's a fairly small number of Tier 1 and regional Tier 1 ISPs out there and once a "rogue" smaller ISP gets blacklisted with a few of these it's likely the others will do the same.
/Mikael
I have no trouble imagining that religion will still be around hundreds of years from now but I am offended by your use of Star Wars as an example of sci-fi with religions in it, Star Wars is to sci-fi as watching a counter strike match is to professional sports.
Well, most legit ISPs regardless of size tend to put a clause in their ToS about their customers not being allowed to do things that disrupt the network, and spamming and DDoS attacks seem like good enough reasons for claiming someone is disrupting the network. Hell, when I worked the abuse desk for an ISP we would warn residential customers after we got the first indication or complaint about them, disconnect them and send them a letter the second time and only reconnect when they contacted us and verified that they had fixed the problem, if there were any further complaints we would often just cut them off completely (sometimes giving them the option to present us with a receipt from a computer store showing that they'd had their computer looked at by someone there before finally cutting them off).
No reason to make this about laws that tell ISPs what they must police in their networks, if the respectable and serious ISPs start taking their own Terms of service seriously and actually act on them even when the customer is another ISP then we'd have a lot fewer problems with botnets and spam.
I believe you're thinking of Pakistan.
Well, a bunch of guys (spammers) from specialham decided that BlueFrog was working a bit too well at killing spam so they basically threw everything they had at Blue security while simultaneously launching a massive propaganda and FUD campaign online (where they made all sorts of unsubstantiated claims about Blue Security and the BlueFrog software).
This kind of behaviour from spammers is one of the reasons I wouldn't be the least bit upset if the top 10 spammers in the world were all found one morning with holes in their heads, hopefully it would at least dissuade others (and stop these particular asshats).
And you forgot about the master's degree in Computer Science with a specialization in financial processing algorithms for currency exchange trading and their implementation in autonomous combat vehicles.
Ok, I haven't seen anything that extreme but it's pretty funny to read articles in trade magazines where some hiring manager whines about there being no developers available on the job market at the same time as they have ads out with requirements not far off from the above...
Did you really expect to make one decision once, and profit without further effort from it forever? Why are you so special? No one else gets that deal.
Well, the reason so many people hope for and invest in this sort of thing is because there really are those who manage to make it this way, and it's not just lottery winners either, there is a small handful of people out there who just happened to invest a few thousand dollar in some friend's crazy startup company that went huge. But for every guy like that there's a thousand who just lost their money.
Well, good luck finding internships when companies are in that "We won't hire anyone with less than ten years of experience" phase that practically all of them were in after the dot bomb. Oh, I'm sure in certain places there were still jobs and internships for those without experience but around here it seemed like everyone just stopped hiring completely for a few years (of course, in reality they did hire people, they just preferred to hire people they knew were reliable and who had solid experience which meant jobs weren't really "on the market" in the same way as they normally are).
Well, that's $347 million out of a total of $12,731 million.
I also took the liberty to look up the GDP of Sweden in the late 1940s and early 1950s as well as the exchange SEK to USD exchange rate back in those days. Since you mentioned 1950 we'll go with that year. In 1950 Sweden received $260,000,000 through the Marshall plan. That same year the Swedish GDP was SEK 39,426,346,000 which was worth about $7,611,000,000 at the time. The swedish GDP for the years prior to and after 1950 was similar (although it was steadily growing) and somehow I doubt that the $48,000,000 Sweden received in 1949 was all that important (the GDP was roughly SEK 31,000,000,000 that year).
But hey, if it makes you feel good to think that a little "please don't become commies" bribe you gave us in the 1940s is what made it possible for us to have a decent telecommunications infrastructure then go right ahead.
/Mikael
Actually, my experience from working tech support here in Sweden in the years after the dot bomb was that a lot of the incompetent ones entrenched themselves in "safe" positions and focused on job security and climbing the corporate ladder, it's amazing how many completely inept "senior" sysadmins there are that need to call in an expensive consultant just to make basic configuration changes to systems that they're supposed to be experts on.
At least you got to experience those "golden years", I was still in school when the dot bomb hit. Admittedly I decided not to go directly from high school to the job market because I was convinced the whole thing would blow up, but what I didn't know was that entering the job market in the post-bomb years with no experience and straight out of college meant most employers would assume I was just another one of those "hey, there's gold in them thar intarwebs" guys who was just trying to make lots of money.
Sadly I knew as a kid (as in, by the early 90s) that I wanted to be a programmer/developer and first started coding a couple of years earlier at age 8, didn't help one bit since every employer assumed I hadn't even known what a computer was until 1999 or so, spent 2.5 years doing first and second line tech support for ISPs before getting a "real" job. :(
Sadly NTFS still benefits from the occasional defrag (although not to the extent that FAT did).
/Mikael