That most people I know who work in some form of medical profession or in various "legal" roles work overtime because they want extra disposable income while most people I know in IT work overtime because it's that or "You're incompetent and lazy".
And why do doctors and lawyers "put up" with working lots of overtime? Could it perhaps be because it's more of a choice and because they actually get some serious compensation for it? I seem to remember some article a while back about a doctor who was found to have endangered his patients by working way way too much, and his reason was summed up as "I wanted to buy a new boat"...
Well, I have my own/64 so I just use the public IP addresses of my machines but you could also use the "link local" addresses of your machines (fe80::/10) or "Unique local addresses" (fc00::/7). The best way would probably be to use public addresses though...
What are you talking about? There are plenty of tunnel brokers that will get you your own/64 or/48, the fact that you clearly didn't bother to look doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.
No offense to tech support people, but compared to other professionals like mechanics and doctors, tech support is not a job that truly qualified people stay in very long.
Welcome to the brave new post-dot bomb recession economy, I know qualified geeks who have been coding and messing about with computers since they were kids, who have held "real" IT or development jobs and who have college educations who have been doing first line tech support for several years.
Admittedly, you probably couldn't tell the difference between these people and the unqualified high school dropout drones in a normal call since they're doing a job they don't want to be doing, they're getting paid $12/hr and even if they wanted to they're most often not allowed to use their knowledge to help the end user ("no, proper procedure is to file a ticket to 2nd line who then check that you've checked everything with the user before escalating it to 3rd line" "But if someone would just give us access to $TOOL we could fix these problems immediately instead of spending ten minutes arguing with the user and checking off a bunch of stuff on a list" "Sorry, procedure, now go back to your computer and stop complaining or we'll replace you with someone who doesn't complain as much.").
I would like to know where you are so that I can relocate, around here there are generally 50+ qualified applicants for every real IT/development job advertised. A lot of qualified people with college degrees in CompSci/CompEng are doing first and second line tech support at various call centers in the area because there are so few "real" jobs available...
I understood the grandparent just fine but I found the claim exaggerated and thus I made the comment. Very nice of you to misquote me and leave out the bit that clearly showed that I understood what I was replying to.
A few years back I tried installing iTunes and the damned thing ran through a quarter of my collection 'importing' my mp3s to its DRM proprietary format and deleting the originals! iTunes is a virus as far as I can tell..
Maybe you need to learn how to use a computer? Seriously, I've never had that problem, you can tell iTunes to use your existing files instead of copying them to its own library and this isn't exactly hard to do...
1) Most politicians are lawyers, philosphers, judges, etc. Thus they will see these sorts of things from their perspective.
Also known as, they don't listen to people who know the subject, they listen to lobbyists.
2) Techies have a serious communication problem. They believe in free without copyright, right to pirate, etc, etc. Take that attitude to lawyers and guess what answer you are going to get.
I'd have to say this isn't just a problem with techies/geeks/nerds/whatever you want to call us, the problem is also with people who have a "the nerd is talking so I might as well zone out and think about banging my mistress until he's done" attitude.
3) Techies don't get the business world. They don't think in terms of ROI, etc. And last I looked that is how the world turns, ROI, etc.
No, I'm pretty sure what makes the world turn can be explained much more satisfactory using physics than economics, that business = all that matters is some sort of universal truth is actually a fairly recent trend... At least outside the US
Ah yes, the (in)famous BP6, an excellent cheap SMP motherboard if you had the time and knowhow to replace potential broken components, re-imaging the firmware and all that. But it did run Windows 2000 perfectly for me, and as long as you didn't try to use the damn onboard HPT366 controller then it ran GNU/Linux and FreeBSD just fine as well.
Not really, using an extra camera pointed at the device wearer's head would be quite impractical, I was thinking something more along the lines of a gyroscope.
My idea was to use a separate device for keeping track of the direction in which I/the user was looking. Basically AFAICT (As Far As I Could Tell) the main hurdle seemed to be the cost of the hardware, if the hardware didn't cost thousands of dollars then I suspect there would already be software capable of doing exactly what I wanted to do...
I was actually messing around with that idea for a while, unfortunately I was hindered from putting my plans into practice due to the cost of good VR headsets. What I was going for was a setup with three or four small webcams, two regular ones and one or two modified to act as IR cameras, a few IR LEDs to provide illumination when needed and then trying to integrate the whole thing with various pieces of hardware and software. One idea that didn't seem too hard to get working was maps + GPS displayed in 3D, sort of a poor man's Google Earth strapped to your head.
Wow, so you just hijacked the discussion so that you could spew out a rant about how evil welfare is. I take it you're a neo-liberal (to the americans: libertarian)?
"Two foreign countries"? Would these be the USA and Canada? Oh wait, you're probably american and thus you assume that everyone else on TEH INTARWEBZ is also american and use the term "foreign" to describe something not from the US...
xf86config is old-school now? I guess I'm getting old, when I started using *nix the standard practice was to run through xff86config as accurately as possible and then manually editing your config to make everything work properly (trying to run X immediately after running xf86config generally resulted in some pretty odd behaviour or if you weren't so lucky, broken hardware).
Ah yes, the horrible memories of downloading, copying to floppies and installing from said floppies because the machine in question didn't have a CD-ROM drive (and no spare drives around). And on dial-up....
Actually I'd say that most users of cocaine and amphetamines that I've met have been casual users, but the addiction potential is clearly a lot more pronounced than it is with cannabis.
You forget the following point: THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!!
No, the customer is paying for a service and if that service is a cheap residential DSL service then most likely the contract (which the customer signed) states quite clearly what the user can expect when it comes to getting his/her problems fixed (this is commonly something like "no compensation at all if the problem was fixed within five business days of the customer reporting the problem, weekends and bank holidays are NOT counted").
The way I see it is that that is YOUR problem, not MY problem! I'm paying for the service. I want the service. If I don't get the service then I should be entitled to a refund. Again, that's only fair.
"Force majeure", it tends to have its own section in the contract for a reason, the provider can generally not be held liable for lightning strikes, earthquakes, wars and other things that are way beyond their control, and if you can't see why this is reasonable then you need to pull your head out of your ass.
Clearly someone has never done tech support, and I don't mean "helped friends/relatives fix something" I mean in the trenches, taking calls all day long, every day.
Trust me on this one, there are lots of really stupid people out there, and sadly tech support is a great place to find out that being intelligent and friendly don't help when you're faced with some guy with a "fancy" last name, an e-mail address that indicates that he is a partner at a well-known law firm and serious entitlement issues ("I WANT THIS FIXED NOW YOU GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT LOSER PUNK DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY I'M LOSING EVERY HOUR THAT MY (residential $15/month DSL) BROADBAND ISN'T WORKING I'M GONNA FILE A FUCKING LAWSUIT I WANT A FUCKING SUPERVISOR RIGHT GOD DAMN NOW YOU SHITHEAD LAZY KNOW-NOTHIN....", well you get the point). Also, when there's an outage these are the people who make you aware of the outage before the NOC calls to tell you about it because within 30 seconds of their DSL going down there's going to be about 50 of these people waiting to yell at you for the DSLAM getting destroyed by a direct lightning strike (and yeah, I've had to deal with something like 50% of the idiots who called about that particular outage demanding to speak to a supervisor because they felt I wasn't doing my job when I explained that it would take several days to repair the building the DSLAM was housed in before a replacement DSLAM could be installed. Also, this is the kind of person who works as a lawyer while somehow being unaware of the term "force majeure").
To sum it up: There are lots of stupid assholes out there, it's not just plain stupidity due to genetic factors, there's also the issue of people who simply choose to stay uneducated about even the most basic computer skills (while relying on their computer to do their job) like understanding the difference between "a program" and "a website" or how to find the start menu in WinXP/Vista...
Swedish TeliaSonera and it wasn't done directly, they purchased the link through a third party and made sure it was activated just as the weekend started (probably hoping that no one would shut it down before the weekend was over).
That sounds incredibly ghetto compared to how most "citynets" in scandinavia are run. Normally the local community will create a new company which will build the network and hire a couple of techs, then they invite ISPs in to connect themselves to the network and deliver the services to the residents, the residents pay the ISPs and the ISPs pay the citynet company a per-customer fee in order to get access to the network.
Another version that seems to be going out of style is for something like a HOA inviting a single ISP in to deliver services to the residents, the ISP then pays for the network and gets exclusive access to it.
As for the DHCP problem, that shouldn't be a problem if your switches are properly configured.
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That most people I know who work in some form of medical profession or in various "legal" roles work overtime because they want extra disposable income while most people I know in IT work overtime because it's that or "You're incompetent and lazy".
/Mikael
And why do doctors and lawyers "put up" with working lots of overtime? Could it perhaps be because it's more of a choice and because they actually get some serious compensation for it? I seem to remember some article a while back about a doctor who was found to have endangered his patients by working way way too much, and his reason was summed up as "I wanted to buy a new boat"...
/Mikael
Well, I have my own /64 so I just use the public IP addresses of my machines but you could also use the "link local" addresses of your machines (fe80::/10) or "Unique local addresses" (fc00::/7). The best way would probably be to use public addresses though...
/Mikael
What are you talking about? There are plenty of tunnel brokers that will get you your own /64 or /48, the fact that you clearly didn't bother to look doesn't mean that something doesn't exist.
/Mikael
No offense to tech support people, but compared to other professionals like mechanics and doctors, tech support is not a job that truly qualified people stay in very long.
Welcome to the brave new post-dot bomb recession economy, I know qualified geeks who have been coding and messing about with computers since they were kids, who have held "real" IT or development jobs and who have college educations who have been doing first line tech support for several years.
Admittedly, you probably couldn't tell the difference between these people and the unqualified high school dropout drones in a normal call since they're doing a job they don't want to be doing, they're getting paid $12/hr and even if they wanted to they're most often not allowed to use their knowledge to help the end user ("no, proper procedure is to file a ticket to 2nd line who then check that you've checked everything with the user before escalating it to 3rd line" "But if someone would just give us access to $TOOL we could fix these problems immediately instead of spending ten minutes arguing with the user and checking off a bunch of stuff on a list" "Sorry, procedure, now go back to your computer and stop complaining or we'll replace you with someone who doesn't complain as much.").
I would like to know where you are so that I can relocate, around here there are generally 50+ qualified applicants for every real IT/development job advertised. A lot of qualified people with college degrees in CompSci/CompEng are doing first and second line tech support at various call centers in the area because there are so few "real" jobs available...
/Mikael
I understood the grandparent just fine but I found the claim exaggerated and thus I made the comment. Very nice of you to misquote me and leave out the bit that clearly showed that I understood what I was replying to.
/Mikael
A few years back I tried installing iTunes and the damned thing ran through a quarter of my collection 'importing' my mp3s to its DRM proprietary format and deleting the originals! iTunes is a virus as far as I can tell..
Maybe you need to learn how to use a computer? Seriously, I've never had that problem, you can tell iTunes to use your existing files instead of copying them to its own library and this isn't exactly hard to do...
/Mikael
1) Most politicians are lawyers, philosphers, judges, etc. Thus they will see these sorts of things from their perspective.
Also known as, they don't listen to people who know the subject, they listen to lobbyists.
2) Techies have a serious communication problem. They believe in free without copyright, right to pirate, etc, etc. Take that attitude to lawyers and guess what answer you are going to get.
I'd have to say this isn't just a problem with techies/geeks/nerds/whatever you want to call us, the problem is also with people who have a "the nerd is talking so I might as well zone out and think about banging my mistress until he's done" attitude.
3) Techies don't get the business world. They don't think in terms of ROI, etc. And last I looked that is how the world turns, ROI, etc.
No, I'm pretty sure what makes the world turn can be explained much more satisfactory using physics than economics, that business = all that matters is some sort of universal truth is actually a fairly recent trend... At least outside the US
/Mikael
Ah yes, the (in)famous BP6, an excellent cheap SMP motherboard if you had the time and knowhow to replace potential broken components, re-imaging the firmware and all that. But it did run Windows 2000 perfectly for me, and as long as you didn't try to use the damn onboard HPT366 controller then it ran GNU/Linux and FreeBSD just fine as well.
/Mikael
Not really, using an extra camera pointed at the device wearer's head would be quite impractical, I was thinking something more along the lines of a gyroscope.
/Mikael
My idea was to use a separate device for keeping track of the direction in which I/the user was looking. Basically AFAICT (As Far As I Could Tell) the main hurdle seemed to be the cost of the hardware, if the hardware didn't cost thousands of dollars then I suspect there would already be software capable of doing exactly what I wanted to do...
/Mikael
I was actually messing around with that idea for a while, unfortunately I was hindered from putting my plans into practice due to the cost of good VR headsets. What I was going for was a setup with three or four small webcams, two regular ones and one or two modified to act as IR cameras, a few IR LEDs to provide illumination when needed and then trying to integrate the whole thing with various pieces of hardware and software. One idea that didn't seem too hard to get working was maps + GPS displayed in 3D, sort of a poor man's Google Earth strapped to your head.
/Mikael
Wow, so you just hijacked the discussion so that you could spew out a rant about how evil welfare is. I take it you're a neo-liberal (to the americans: libertarian)?
/Mikael
"Two foreign countries"? Would these be the USA and Canada? Oh wait, you're probably american and thus you assume that everyone else on TEH INTARWEBZ is also american and use the term "foreign" to describe something not from the US...
/Mikael
Swedish ISP Bahnhof already did this. Still cool though...
/Mikael
xf86config is old-school now? I guess I'm getting old, when I started using *nix the standard practice was to run through xff86config as accurately as possible and then manually editing your config to make everything work properly (trying to run X immediately after running xf86config generally resulted in some pretty odd behaviour or if you weren't so lucky, broken hardware).
/Mikael
Ah yes, the horrible memories of downloading, copying to floppies and installing from said floppies because the machine in question didn't have a CD-ROM drive (and no spare drives around). And on dial-up....
/Mikael
Actually I'd say that most users of cocaine and amphetamines that I've met have been casual users, but the addiction potential is clearly a lot more pronounced than it is with cannabis.
/Mikael
You forget the following point: THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!!
No, the customer is paying for a service and if that service is a cheap residential DSL service then most likely the contract (which the customer signed) states quite clearly what the user can expect when it comes to getting his/her problems fixed (this is commonly something like "no compensation at all if the problem was fixed within five business days of the customer reporting the problem, weekends and bank holidays are NOT counted").
The way I see it is that that is YOUR problem, not MY problem! I'm paying for the service. I want the service. If I don't get the service then I should be entitled to a refund. Again, that's only fair.
"Force majeure", it tends to have its own section in the contract for a reason, the provider can generally not be held liable for lightning strikes, earthquakes, wars and other things that are way beyond their control, and if you can't see why this is reasonable then you need to pull your head out of your ass.
/Mikael
Clearly someone has never done tech support, and I don't mean "helped friends/relatives fix something" I mean in the trenches, taking calls all day long, every day.
Trust me on this one, there are lots of really stupid people out there, and sadly tech support is a great place to find out that being intelligent and friendly don't help when you're faced with some guy with a "fancy" last name, an e-mail address that indicates that he is a partner at a well-known law firm and serious entitlement issues ("I WANT THIS FIXED NOW YOU GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT LOSER PUNK DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY I'M LOSING EVERY HOUR THAT MY (residential $15/month DSL) BROADBAND ISN'T WORKING I'M GONNA FILE A FUCKING LAWSUIT I WANT A FUCKING SUPERVISOR RIGHT GOD DAMN NOW YOU SHITHEAD LAZY KNOW-NOTHIN....", well you get the point). Also, when there's an outage these are the people who make you aware of the outage before the NOC calls to tell you about it because within 30 seconds of their DSL going down there's going to be about 50 of these people waiting to yell at you for the DSLAM getting destroyed by a direct lightning strike (and yeah, I've had to deal with something like 50% of the idiots who called about that particular outage demanding to speak to a supervisor because they felt I wasn't doing my job when I explained that it would take several days to repair the building the DSLAM was housed in before a replacement DSLAM could be installed. Also, this is the kind of person who works as a lawyer while somehow being unaware of the term "force majeure").
To sum it up: There are lots of stupid assholes out there, it's not just plain stupidity due to genetic factors, there's also the issue of people who simply choose to stay uneducated about even the most basic computer skills (while relying on their computer to do their job) like understanding the difference between "a program" and "a website" or how to find the start menu in WinXP/Vista...
/Mikael
Swedish TeliaSonera and it wasn't done directly, they purchased the link through a third party and made sure it was activated just as the weekend started (probably hoping that no one would shut it down before the weekend was over).
/Mikael
That sounds incredibly ghetto compared to how most "citynets" in scandinavia are run. Normally the local community will create a new company which will build the network and hire a couple of techs, then they invite ISPs in to connect themselves to the network and deliver the services to the residents, the residents pay the ISPs and the ISPs pay the citynet company a per-customer fee in order to get access to the network.
Another version that seems to be going out of style is for something like a HOA inviting a single ISP in to deliver services to the residents, the ISP then pays for the network and gets exclusive access to it.
As for the DHCP problem, that shouldn't be a problem if your switches are properly configured.
/Mikael
That's just the UK though, the rest of us aren't quite so quick to use Orwell's books as a "how-to" guide...
/Mikael
If things go depression era nuts in Italy, I could see, easily, a socialist strongman taking power.
Interesting point of view but I suspect it would be a fascist (considering their current leadership as well as their history).
/Mikael