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Majel Roddenberry Dies At 76

unassimilatible writes "If there was ever a sad day for nerds, it's today, as Majel Barrett-Rodenberry has passed away. The widow of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry is best remembered as the gorgeous Nurse Christine Chapel from the original series, the pesky and officious Lwaxana Troi from The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine, and of course the ubiquitous voice of Star Trek computers in movies, TV, and animated films (who hasn't used her voice as a system sound on their PC?). Majel also attended Star Trek conventions yearly and was a producer of Andromeda. Fortunately, Majel just finished her voice over work for the computers in J.J. Abrams' latest Trek movie. I have to admit, this made me sad, just having caught up on the entire TNG and DS9 series on DVD."

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  1. Who will replace her? by iSzabo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Her voice was unique - ironically I don't think a digital voice would do the computer justice, and posers ain't cool. :(

    1. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 1

      Nobody can, and that's a very bad thing

      Because the only modern Star Trek set before voice-interactive computers is Enterprise - so we're destined to have 15 Enterprise movies now (to make up for the DS9 & Voyager movies that we haven't had yet, and now can't have). Crap.

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    2. Re:Who will replace her? by eclectro · · Score: 1

      There's always "I'm sorry I can't [open the pod bay doors] do that, Dave" Hal.

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    3. Re:Who will replace her? by Matt+Perry · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Who will replace her?

      Sound Forge and a dialogue editor. There is enough of her computer dialog from all the trek episodes and movies that an editor could splice together a variety of sentences without much effort.

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    4. Re:Who will replace her? by WCLPeter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      so we're destined to have 15 Enterprise movies now (to make up for the DS9 & Voyager movies that we haven't had yet, and now can't have). Crap.

      Whether it's "Crap" or not depends on if they ignore the first three seasons. If they do, movies based on Enterprise could be good.

    5. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I'd rather have Enterprise than DS9 or Voyager......

    6. Re:Who will replace her? by Tekoneiric · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm suprised she didn't market her voice to the electronics industry for products like GPS devices.

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    7. Re:Who will replace her? by Baricom · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wouldn't be surprised if she was under a non-compete preventing exactly that.

    8. Re:Who will replace her? by FuturePastNow · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would love to have a Star Trek -licensed GPS unit. LCARS for your car...

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    9. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure a lot slashdot readers would buy a GPS device if it was marketed as using her voice...

    10. Re:Who will replace her? by tirefire · · Score: 1

      I've never watched Star Trek, so I don't really know what the voice sounds like.

        *cringes as Slashdot community pelts him with rubbish* ... But if you were to attempt this splicing project, wouldn't!? the voice. have all the - wrong... inflections?

    11. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Given she sorta owned the whole Star Trek franchise, that'd be amusing...

    12. Re:Who will replace her? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      Just curious... didn't Paramount have a huge stake in it?

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    13. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With some creative writing and editing, you could have a DS9 movie that lacked her voice, so long as voice-interfaced computing was limited to the station's Cardassian computer.

    14. Re:Who will replace her? by furbearntrout · · Score: 1

      The show used a stylized monotone for the computer dialog. The inflections are minimal to missing.

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    15. Re:Who will replace her? by dontmakemethink · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually Louise Fletcher's voice (Kai Winn from DS9) is close enough that I actually thought she did the computer voice in Voyager. Unfortunately she's up there at 74 years old, but she's still active. She was nurse Ratched in One Flew Over The Cookoo's nest (1975).

      Just don't let George Lucas have any say on who does the voice, or we'll get some squeaky Jar Jar Binks nonesense to sell Star Trek touchscreen computer monitors to kids with matching appearance themes for Vista...

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    16. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully, the technology has improved some from from the days of Bewitched.

      Then, again, come to think of it, posthumous Agnes Moorehead did sound kind of like an offscreen computer.

    17. Re:Who will replace her? by feyhunde · · Score: 1

      Alot of the rights were saved by Roddenberry. She as his widow got everything. I think their son gets everything now. That's creative rights versus $$$ rights. Although I'm sure the son will be fithly rich off all the stuff for ages.

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    18. Re:Who will replace her? by theaveng · · Score: 1

      Isn't that a bad thing? Copyrights should expire after the original creator's (or his wife's) death.

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    19. Re:Who will replace her? by Ardx · · Score: 1

      like DS9 and Voyager (seriously, are there people who liked those shows?/quote. Of course. DS9 I don't know what to say keeps me enjoying that version. Voyager, well, was all about the women (Mmmm... Jennifer Lien). The stories generally were 'ok' but nothing thrilling except for a couple various story arcs.

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    20. Re:Who will replace her? by rvw · · Score: 1

      Her voice was unique - ironically I don't think a digital voice would do the computer justice, and posers ain't cool. :(

      Her sound may be unique, but there are many women out there who have a similar voice. I suppose they can invent some virus that will infect her voice. They can probably give it a twist, if they need that at all.

    21. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I wouldn't be surprised if she was under a non-compete preventing exactly that.

      I would, she was employed by her husband initially, and by the time he had died she was central enough to production that the studios wouldn't have been able to force a one sided contract on her.

    22. Re:Who will replace her? by Crumplecorn · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      wasn't the same star trek formula rehashed a million fucking times, like DS9 and Voyager

      Voyager yes, but DS9 is usually lambasted for not being a proper Star Trek at all.

      As for Enterprise, as with Voyager, a good concept with a bad case of TNGcloneitis.

    23. Re:Who will replace her? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would love to give Majel Roddenberry in my car. The woman was wonderfully hot, even when I saw her as a child, in a mature and seasoned sort of way. Watching her appearances in every Star Trek, and in Babylon Five, was a treat.

      She was wasted on Spock.....

    24. Re:Who will replace her? by Talking+Goat · · Score: 1

      Judi Durand. She was the voice of the Cardassian computer on DS9/Terok Nor. I want to know exactly where she was at the time of Majel's death!

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    25. Re:Who will replace her? by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      With Tom Toms you can import voice files, so someone very well could compile one if she said all the "right" things. Someone managed to make a GlaDOS voice set... so you never know.

    26. Re:Who will replace her? by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      But we dont have her saying the following...

      penis
      taint
      bung-hole
      boobies
      shit
      dude

      and the one I think every trek movie needs for the computer....

      "you want what?? are you insane?"

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    27. Re:Who will replace her? by ichthus · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      ...like DS9 and Voyager (seriously, are there people who liked those shows?)

      Yes. DS9 was great, because it continued the story of Klingon politics and civil war. It was also cool that in DS9 the Federation was placed in a situation where they had to form an alliance with the Romulans.

      Voyager sucked, though, because they ruined the Borg. Originally, the Borg were a ruthless, conscience-free enemy that could not be reasoned with -- diabolical. In Voyager, not so much. You suck, Braga!

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    28. Re:Who will replace her? by Canazza · · Score: 1

      The Copyright, Intellectual Property, and creative rights are muddy waters.
      Like the relatives of Asimov who still get to say how and where his IP gets used (and frankly abused, thank you Mr Smith) in the name of cash they get off the back of it, and all reprints of his books.

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    29. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Oh my...

      Hand in your Geek card now and walk away.

      Trek != Wars

    30. Re:Who will replace her? by ufpdom · · Score: 1

      Please restate request.

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    31. Re:Who will replace her? by joeytmann · · Score: 1

      Wasn't she Nurse Ballbreaker in the Porky's movies?

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    32. Re:Who will replace her? by tohoward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Ok, I'm gonna say it (again?) for the record: Season 2 of Enterprise sucked major donkey butt. The whole "expanse/temporal cold war" story line was completely out of line. By Season 3 though, they had started doing some good stories again, and it was unfortunate (in my mind) that it got canceled just as it was really starting to get good.

    33. Re:Who will replace her? by mdm-adph · · Score: 2, Funny

      New to the US?

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    34. Re:Who will replace her? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lots of people loved DS9, and it's widely considered a contender for the best Trek, along with TNG. And I, for one, thought Voyager was good, and I know I'm not alone.

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    35. Re:Who will replace her? by bytethese · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but do you know many people would talk back to it? "Approaching left turn in 500 feet..." Engage.

    36. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just don't let George Lucas have any say on who does the voice, or we'll get some squeaky Jar Jar Binks nonesense to sell Star Trek touchscreen computer monitors to kids with matching appearance themes for Vista...

      Where'd you get the "Vista" part? That just makes it sound like you're lumping all your dislikes into one camp.

    37. Re:Who will replace her? by rbanffy · · Score: 1

      Douglas Rain, did, but that was a male computer.

      And we all know he (the computer) had a few nasty glitches.

    38. Re:Who will replace her? by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 2, Interesting

      When they use a different voice actor or actress for the computer voice in the next Star Trek movie (after the one that's currently in production), at least one of the main characters should remark that they miss the old voice from before the main computer upgrade, as a salute.

    39. Re:Who will replace her? by Rakarra · · Score: 2

      The first season was fresh, new, and wasn't the same star trek formula rehashed a million fucking times, like DS9 and Voyager (seriously, are there people who liked those shows?)

      I certainly liked DS9 a hell of a lot more than Enterprise, that's for sure. It actually had good, interesting characters. It took a few years for the plots to start to come into their own though.

    40. Re:Who will replace her? by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Not to mention she succeeded in making a middle aged woman somewhat hot to teenagers watching TNG. It was nicely out of the norm.

    41. Re:Who will replace her? by TheLink · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not too soon after the creator's death. Otherwise creators might somehow die from mysterious heart attacks or car crashes. ;).

      That said, copyrights should last maybe 7 years or so.

      Why? Because supposedly technology, communication, marketing and distribution has improved, and also the pace of "progress" .

      If that is the case, then protection terms for patents and copyrights should be getting shorter and shorter, in line with the pace of progress, distribution etc.

      They most certainly shouldn't be getting longer and longer.

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    42. Re:Who will replace her? by porl · · Score: 1

      possibly, but on another note you could do it with kirk's dialog and no. one. would. notice... :P

      porl

    43. Re:Who will replace her? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      I mostly remember the computer interaction from this:

      Captain James T. Kirk: This is Captain James Kirk of the U S S Enterprise; destruct sequence 1 code 1-1-a

      Computer Voice: Voie print & identity verified & correct sequence 1 complete

      Captain James T. Kirk: Mr. Spock?

      Mr. Spock: This is Commander Spock, Science Officer; destruct sequence number 2 code 1-1-a-2-b

      Computer Voice: Voice print & identity verified & correct sequence 2 complete

      Captain James T. Kirk: Scotty ?

      Lt. Cmdr. Montgomery 'Scotty' Scott: This is Lt. Cmdr. Montgomery Scott, Chief Engineer: destruct sequence 3 code 1-b-2-b-3

      Computer Voice: Voice print & identity verified & correct destruct sequence engaged awaiting code for 30 second countdown

      Captain James T. Kirk: [after Bele's refusal to cocede] code zero-zero-destruct-zero begin 30 second countdown [repeats]

      Computer Voice: 30... 29... 28

      Captain James T. Kirk: [after Bele gives up] code 1-2-3-continuity abort destruct order

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    44. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meesa gonna be self destructin' in five seconds! Fivesa! Foursa! Threesa! Twosa! Onesa!

    45. Re:Who will replace her? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      Far Beyond the Stars is the best Trek episode ever.

      So, yeah. I'd say some people still like DS9 and/or Voyager.

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    46. Re:Who will replace her? by DragonWriter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't that a bad thing? Copyrights should expire after the original creator's (or his wife's) death.

      Personally, I think that a reasonable fixed term would be a better choice to limit copyrights, rather than ending them with someone's death, which gives other people an interest in promoting that death.

    47. Re:Who will replace her? by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't be the first time a different voice was used for the Federation computers—the TOS movies never used Majel for the computers, though she did appear several times as Chapel. (It was even a male for the first movie.)

      As far as I know, the computer games (even ones with the original casts from the various shows, like the Elite Force games and—mostly—The Fallen) have also used someone else. Usually Judi Durand (who does the voice of Cardassian computers on DS9), but there may have been others.

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    48. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      don't make him have to think

    49. Re:Who will replace her? by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      She also did the voice in a lot of the Star Trek video games including Elite Force, which I thought was Majel. So I bet she could take over and they could just pass it off as "changed vocal module" if they acknowledge it at all.

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    50. Re:Who will replace her? by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Just because GP mentioned George Lucas doesn't mean they thought that George Lucas had anything to do with Star Trek previously.

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    51. Re:Who will replace her? by UncleTogie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Originally, the Borg were a ruthless, conscience-free enemy that could not be reasoned with -- diabolical. In Voyager, not so much.

      Are Hugh sure? ;)

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    52. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm thankful she didn't. Personally I found her voice grating. It always seemed odd that Star Fleet's computers over the course of the decades all spoke with the voice of the same woman, with the voice sounding older and more tremulous in the newer computers - does Star Fleet allow no customization of computer voices?

    53. Re:Who will replace her? by Daimanta · · Score: 1

      "And I, for one, thought Voyager was good, and I know I'm not alone."

      Your absolutely not alone. Voyager hooked me to Star Trek and in itself it is not a bad series at all. Sure, it has some boring episodes but all Star Treks have had those.

      I'm glad Voyager wasn't able to visit Risa *shudder*

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    54. Re:Who will replace her? by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      I'd actually agree with that. The Borg were designed as this unstoppable juggernaut. They were something to always keep in fear at the edge of your thoughts, knowing that they weren't just waiting in the darkness, but that they were hunting you. Voyager turned them into bumbling incompetents, incapable of defending themselves from outside attack reliably, and even splintering apart inside their own collective.

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    55. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The Copyright, Intellectual Property, and creative rights are muddy waters.

      Unfortunately, having been dead for 25 years, Muddy Waters will be unable to reap the benefits.

    56. Re:Who will replace her? by spungebob · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would love to give Majel Roddenberry in my car.

      I can go you one better - I once held her in my arms...

      I was working as a PA for a movie called Mommy. Majel played the role of Mrs. Withers, a schoolteacher who gets killed by the movie's lead villainess.

      In her final scene, Mrs. Withers is hanging up decorations after hours in her classroom when she is confronted by the murderous lead character. After a brief argument with her would-be killer, Majel's character climbs back up a stepladder to resume her decorating and the murderess does the dirty deed by pushing Majel off the stepladder, causing her to fall to the floor where she presumably dies from a fractured skull.

      The scene called for an upper torso shot of Majel falling backwards off the ladder. Since we're talking "B" movie here and the budget did not include an airbag for her to fall onto, the director had me and three other PA's stand next to the ladder with our arms linked together so as to catch her. She literally fell into my arms - not once but several times before the final take. Absolute highlight of my life! What really impressed me, though, was how trusting she was and - to echo what many other posters have already said - how joyful she was as a person.

      One other story about Majel's final scene in the movie - her very last camera shot was from above, looking down on the fallen Mrs. Withers as she lay dying on the classroom floor. The director told Majel to ham it up a bit for her death scene so the editor would have some extra footage to work with for the final cut, so there she laid on the floor - eyes closed, a pained expression on her face, rolling her head to and fro and moaning...

      (i'm just gonna let that image sink in for a moment or two)

      ... it was a hypnotic moment, the entire crew was transfixed and except for Majel the room was absolutely quiet. And at some point it sunk in with me that the scene had been going on for a lot longer than was probably necessary and that the director wasn't saying "cut". It must have occurred to Majel as well because she suddenly stopped, raised her head and looked over at the director as if to ask whether it was enough footage. But before she could speak - out of the deafening silence of that moment - a small desperate voice in the back of the room cried out "Marry me, Majel!!".

      If you ever get a chance to see the actual movie, keep that story in mind as you watch Mrs. Withers' final on-screen moments.

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    57. Re:Who will replace her? by Phybertekie · · Score: 0

      Oh how would so love to see Jar Jar Binks assimilated by the Borg. Meesa tinks resistance be futile.

    58. Re:Who will replace her? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      DS9 was great, because it continued the story of Klingon politics and civil war.

      True, but then the plots kept getting bogged down in the whole Bajoran/Prophets thing (even Jadzea Dax had had enough when she told Sisko, "I liked it better back when they were wormhole aliens.") I kinda lost interest at that point, but up 'til then I agree. It was cool when Worf had it out with Gowron.

      Voyager sucked, though, because they ruined the Borg.

      Hey, mods, that's not flamebait, it's precisely the truth. Remember "The Best of Both Worlds", the original Next Generation cliffhanger? The Borg were utterly implacable, totally inscrutable and free of anything resembling emotion. Worse, the discovery of the Borg's primary motivation ("You will become one with the Borg. You will all become one ... with the Borg.") was absolutely terrifying. As Q put it, "The Borg are the ultimate user." And let's not forget that they could pulverize Starfleet vessels with impunity.

      Then they got a "Borg Queen", which put a human face on them, and in Voyager it turns out that there's an entire hidden subnet of drones that can communicate via their subconscious minds (in virtual worlds, experiencing the full gamut of emotion) unknown to the Collective itself. I mean, what the Hell? Roddenberry's team came up with the most awesome high-tech enemy imaginable ... and his successors threw it away.

      The truly entertaining aspect to the original Borg came in the Enterprise crew's attempts to locate and exploit even the tiniest weakness in the Borg's apparent invulnerability. The Borg's personality (or rather, total lack of it) was irrelevant. Making them more "human" was irrelevant. It also made them less interesting (maybe Braga & Co. thought that would give them wider appeal. It didn't.)

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    59. Re:Who will replace her? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Oh my...

      Hand in your Geek card now and walk away.

      Trek != Wars

      I think the GP was just using this as a venue to complain about George Lucas (and I happen to agree with him there) He didn't seem too confused about Trek vs. Star Wars.

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    60. Re:Who will replace her? by ichthus · · Score: 1

      Ah ha. I'm glad you were modded funny, because that post was funny -- and true. But, I think Hugh was a different situation. He was separated from the Borg consciousness -- something that had kind of already been seen when Picard gave Data the hint of making the Borg sleep. So, it wasn't the Borg collective that was being reasoned with in Hugh's case -- just a human.

      But, then again, you're right. Hugh later caused other drones to separate into a chaotic anarchy, and this showed a weakness in the Borg. But, in my opinion, it was a cool exploit and not the sloppy, lazy concept that Voyager took in being able to reason with the collective.

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    61. Re:Who will replace her? by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      While I admit it had some sucky moments, as did all the post Roddenberry treks IMHO, Voyager had its moments too. I always thought "Equinox" was a good example of what happens when good people are left too long in a bad situation, and I think most would admit that the way that they ended it was cool. Janeway basically said "fuck the temporal directive, fuck starfleet, fuck the borg, fuck them all" and stole that kick ass armor tech and gave it to her past self and then used herself as a living viral bomb to give the finger one last time to the borg. The way she sat there as she and the borg queen were dying with that vicious smirk on her face was just classic. To me THAT was how to end a trek show, for it to go out with a bang. That whole "it is a test" crap that they ended TNG with was just lame IMHO.

      But the problem with keeping the borg super baddass like they were at the beginning was believability. Nobody would believe that something that damned badass would have kept getting its ass kicked by the wimpy federation. The only way they could have kept the borg THAT badass and kept believability IMHO was after Wolf 359 have the federation go major militaristic with the whole federation becoming one big war machine which would have killed Roddenberry's original vision of peaceful exploration. So IMHO they were kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place, as the audience wanted to see more borg but it would be harder and harder to believe the federation would survive repeated encounters with something that super bad.

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    62. Re:Who will replace her? by WCLPeter · · Score: 1

      I would love to have a Star Trek -licensed GPS unit.

      Dammit Jim! I'm a Doctor, not a tour guide!

    63. Re:Who will replace her? by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

      When my Garman boots up, I want it to say, "Last time, on Voyager..."

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    64. Re:Who will replace her? by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

      Yeah, Borg continuity's a bit messed up.

      In the original Star Trek, pretty much every adversary they ever fought could be summed up by an idea or an ideal, and defeated with a natural elemental counter - fighting androids with logical paradoxes, exposing inhuman aliens to human emotion, putting too much air into a balloon, you get the idea. NG did a nice job introducing the Borg as yet another thematic entity that could be fought with wit. Change the shield frequencies before they adjust, explore the cube with impunity because they don't consider you a threat, etc.

      Voyager turned that around into a dull human story with dull human elements, especially in the last season or two. Which isn't to say there's not potential there, but Voyager was never any good at exploiting potential.

      I remember an episode where the crew faced an incapacitated Borg vessel whose only remaining population consisted of a few drone children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_(Star_Trek:_Voyager)) It was such an unbelievable let-down. Seven of Nine came in and played a role in the same script they use in every episode: The good guy knows best, the poor confused bastard who has the potential to blow everyone up - or through his inaction can allow everyone to be blown up - will only bring himself to trust another soul at the last moment; then they all forgive and learn, occasionally with a less likeable poor confused bastard getting sacrificed.

      By this point in the series, not only was this boring, it was absurd, given that the antagonists were children. What the writers should have done - not that it would be anywhere near the style of the show - is make it a change-up episode. Throw Seven of Nine in there and let her dominate the shit out of everyone else on board, using her superior intelligence, experience, and knowledge of Borg protocol. Relegate that damned conflict between her and the kids to the position of a comic relief sideplot, and have them battle something inanimate like a reactor core leak instead. At least then the writers would have used a fascinating consequence of the characters' positions for something other than a "Please trust me" plot.

      And if anyone on the show could pull off a deviation from the formula, it'd be Jeri Ryan. She and Robert Picardo each had more talent individually than the rest of the cast combined.

      Bleh. Enough ranting. I'm off to dream of the plots that could've been.

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    65. Re:Who will replace her? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would love to have a Star Trek -licensed GPS unit. LCARS for your car...

      Indeed. Majel Barrett for your car would be great.

      "Unable to comply. Your engine is offline."

    66. Re:Who will replace her? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Yeah. I was sad to find out that Andromeda, which was cheesy fun at first, was originally planned to be a *Federation* ship lost for 500 years. I'd have sympathized with our hero more, like being the only Trek fan in a company, trying to teach the mundanes about the dreams many of us learned from that show, trying to live up to those ideals and having to make compromises along the way.

    67. Re:Who will replace her? by magarity · · Score: 1

      to make up for the DS9 & Voyager movies that we haven't had yet, and now can't have)
       
      Why not have any Voyager movies? The hull was not a loss by the end of the series so it can still be out doing the Star Fleet thing. Obviously not the lost far away thing, but it might be good to have a movie around a light cruiser instead of the Galaxy class heavy cruisers for a change. After all, a less badass ship than usual was part of what made Voyager interesting.

    68. Re:Who will replace her? by BigBadVoodooManny · · Score: 1

      That's me with any Temporal Mechanics episodes of any series. It's like they're saying, "You know what? We've got nothing new this week. This episode you're about to watch? Never happened. Go read a book or something."

  2. Number One! by Bieeanda · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's not forget that she was cast as the first officer in the original Star Trek pilot episode too.

    1. Re:Number One! by JackieBrown · · Score: 4, Informative

      And in Babylon 5!

    2. Re:Number One! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Little known fact... Had the original Star Trek pilot cast gone to series and into a second season, she like Jonathan Frakes would've grown a beard.

    3. Re:Number One! by Haoie · · Score: 1

      I've got to say, that's a role she's not really remembered for [but that again, that episode was really off the wall continuity wise].

      In any case, she'll be missed.

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    4. Re:Number One! by Zibblsnrt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I loved the kind of stealth eulogy for Gene she gave in her appearance there.

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      "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
    5. Re:Number One! by DustyShadow · · Score: 1

      Number One! Go take a number two!

    6. Re:Number One! by Erioll · · Score: 1

      Explain please. Do you mean her statements about greatness?

    7. Re:Number One! by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Insightful

      She probably didn't back in the day when "beaves" were fashionable, but later on when she became the sexy ol' cougar Lwaxana, she seduced the oedupus in all of us. I might even say that she was a prototype of Samantha from Sex and the City.

      Later, in an unexpected departure for her, it was revealed that she lost a child and almost died of her own guilt and sorrow.

      Later in DS9 she was seen as the MILFy chick who always tried to seduce the lovable, virginal social retard in all of us: Odo.

    8. Re:Number One! by profplump · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Guys, we all need to stop eating and switch to IV-delivered glucose. Poop is gross, and your digestive tract is mostly unnecessary with modern technology.

      I'm not against a hair styling -- be it head, face, or otherwise -- but to suggest that a standard bit of anatomy is "gross" and must be entirely removed is absurd.

    9. Re:Number One! by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Seconded.

      Men: go to the drugstore and pick up some Veet(do NOT use Nair!). After you have the Veet, go home and bring something pithy to read(Dilbert works well) with you into your bathroom. Then, manually trim your pubic hair down to approximately 1/4-1/2 inch long using scissors or clippers. Anything less than 1/4 inch is gay, anything longer is sloppy unless you've perfected shaping.

      Apply the Veet as directed on the tube, but deviate from the instructions(we technical folk like to call it an "engineering change order") in the following ways:

      1) Don't listen to the instructions as far as having it on your pubic area. It will work safely, painlessly, and effectively all the way up to the "comdom zone" on the base of your penis. It is safe for removing scrotal hair, but do not get it on your dickhead. I like to apply it with one hand while keeping the other clean so that it can quickly remove the excess should it get somewhere I don't want it to be.

      2) Apply the Veet to all bodily hair below your beltline and above your mid-thigh(important: on, but not in, your butthole if you have a hairy one) with VERY important exceptions outlined in rule 3.

      3) In order to avoid being confused with a fag, you must leave some pubic hair between your beltline and mid-thigh. The most common configuration is an inverted triangle beginning at the uppermost base of the penis. I prefer to use an isosceles triangle with the two like vertices terminating prematurely at the sides of my dickbase. The key here is to make it look natural, yet trimmed. Let it fade into the width of your treasure path. Silly mohawks or "lucky charm" shapes are best saved for women on April 1st.

      4) Stand with your legs slightly spread while you read the Dilbert book for 5 minutes. Yes, I said 5. What are you, a pansy?

      5) Get in a warm-to-hot shower. Do not use the included hair scraper, instead use your own fingernails(softly, though, and preferably trimmed) and cover all areas which have Veet applied. Clumps of half-digested hair will fall to the shower bed, pay no mind and kick them toward the drain.

      6) Step out smooooth, repeat the process in 1-2 weeks depending. Men who remove their bodily hair in places above the beltline or below mid-thigh are fags. Yes, fags.

      7) The process is painless except for very minor irritation along the crease where thigh meets taint. Speaking of pain, do NOT do this after working out or when your pores are opened. Nair may be used instead, but unlike Veet, Nair is as unfriendly on the scrotum as 40-grit sandpaper is.

    10. Re:Number One! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      with the two like vertices terminating prematurely at the sides of my dickbase

      I am high and man did that make me laugh.

    11. Re:Number One! by Zibblsnrt · · Score: 1

      The one where her character was talking about Turhan? Yeah.

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    12. Re:Number One! by bickerdyke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now would that be "News for Nerds" or "Stuff that matters"??

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    13. Re:Number One! by BodhiCat · · Score: 1

      Yes, Majel will always be Number One to me!

    14. Re:Number One! by ufpdom · · Score: 1

      I wouldnt call it interesting I would call this informative.

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    15. Re:Number One! by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      Later, in an unexpected departure for her, it was revealed that she lost a child [wikipedia.org] and almost died of her own guilt and sorrow.

      Probably my favorite Troi episode, and the first time I actually looked forward to having her in the episode, instead of just mugging cutely while the plot comes to a halt.

    16. Re:Number One! by lpevey · · Score: 1

      Way off topic, but I have to chime in...

      Are you being sarcastic, or are you actually suggesting that your fellow guys should remove their pubic hair in some way? If you think hair is gross and want to mess with that part of your anatomy, that's fine... live and let live. But since this is a site for nerds--mostly male nerds, who stereotypically are not much in tune with the female viewpoint--I feel the need to speak up and warn any guys out there against getting the idea that women prefer hairless genitals. I obviously can't speak for all women, but the only time I've even heard another woman mention pubic hair was to complain about a man's shaved balls. She thought it was disgusting and showed lack of self-respect. If you feel the need to trim, go for it. But leave it basically intact. Just my suggestion.

    17. Re:Number One! by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      always tried to seduce the lovable, virginal social retard in all of us

      I may be a social retard but the resemblance ends there.

      --
      The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
    18. Re:Number One! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Passengers, should the 'overshare' light come on, please extinguish all smoking materials and place your seats in their upright position.

      * Female passengers with bikini waxes, you may laugh uproariously at what wimps men are.
      * Richard Stallman, you may also stop laughing at these silly people who put sharp or caustic things like razors, Nair, or soap near delicate body parts.

    19. Re:Number One! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you being sarcastic, or are you actually suggesting that your fellow guys should remove their pubic hair in some way?

      I'm suggesting that both men and women remove pubic hair. It makes oral more pleasant (no hair in the way) and imho, it looks much better.

      Anyway, naturally I have very little pubic hair. Still, I remove the little that does grow there.

    20. Re:Number One! by dissy · · Score: 1

      Guys, we all need to stop eating and switch to IV-delivered glucose. Poop is gross, and your digestive tract is mostly unnecessary with modern technology.
      I'm not against a hair styling -- be it head, face, or otherwise -- but to suggest that a standard bit of anatomy is "gross" and must be entirely removed is absurd.

      Aww damn, you went and all got my hopes up that removing the digestive tract could be done now :{
      Having to stop to eat and all else involved, despite being 'gross' up for debate, is decidedly annoying.

  3. Other roles... by minvaren · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ...the one watching as the damaged Enterprise pulls into Stardock in Star Trek III...

    So many roles, both on and off the camera. She will be missed.

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    1. Re:Other roles... by AJWM · · Score: 4, Informative

      .the one watching as the damaged Enterprise pulls into Stardock in Star Trek III...

      Nope, that was Grace Lee Whitney, Yeoman Janice Rand in the original series, and a CPO in ST IV. Apparently her brief appearance in ST III was not officially as Rand (probably for contractual reasons, I'm guessing) but her reaction makes more sense if she'd served on the Enterprise.

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    2. Re:Other roles... by minvaren · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected - thanks!

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    3. Re:Other roles... by PinkyGigglebrain · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Are you sure? I remember that being Grace Lee Whitney, Ensign Rand from the original series. She was definitely in ST:TMP as none other than Dr.Chapel

      I know Mrs. Roddenberry was in ST4. At Star Fleet HQ ordering emergency power be redirected to medical when the Probe started screwing up the power grids on Earth.

      And lets not forget her appearance in Babylon 5, as the third wife of the late Centari Emperor.

      No matter who it was in ST3, I'm with you on her being missed.

    4. Re:Other roles... by mR.bRiGhTsId3 · · Score: 1

      IV or VI. I don't remember seeing here in The Voyage Home, but I thought she served on the Excelsior in The Undiscovered Country.

    5. Re:Other roles... by grahamd0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are you sure? I remember that being Grace Lee Whitney, Yeoman Rand from the original series.

      There, fixed that for you.

      ...

      I need to apologize for that. I feel dirty.

    6. Re:Other roles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      6 and I think possibly some eps in the later series, although it may've been parts of the dubbed in footage from TOS/the movies.

    7. Re:Other roles... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      She was in I Love Lucy and The Untouchables (The Chicago Tribune's text changed from this morning where these two shows were mentioned)

      Born Majel Lee Hudec on Feb. 23, 1932, in Cleveland, she began taking acting classes as a child. She had some stage roles, then in the late 1950s and 1960s had bit parts in a few movies and small roles in TV series, including "Leave It to Beaver" and "Bonanza."

      She met her husband in 1964 during a guest role for a Marine Corps drama he produced called "The Lieutenant." That same year, she was cast in the pilot for the "Star Trek" series as the no-nonsense second-in-command. The pilot did not appeal to NBC executives and a second pilot was made, although parts of the original later showed up in a two-part episode called "The Menagerie."

      The couple married in Japan in 1969 after "Star Trek" was canceled. After her husband's death, Roddenberry continued her involvement with the "Star Trek" franchise.

      She also was the executive producer for two other TV science fiction series, "Andromeda" and "Earth: Final Conflict."

    8. Re:Other roles... by Rakarra · · Score: 1

      It always seemed to me to be such a strange cameo. I didn't know who she was or why we were seeing her. The movie never came back to her, and I assumed she was simply some random admiral who was shocked at the damage the Enterprise had sustained.

    9. Re:Other roles... by el+americano · · Score: 1

      is best remembered as the gorgeous Nurse Christine Chapel...

      Good lord, even at 10-years-old I knew she was homely. Yeoman Rand was the good looking one.

      I liked her as Troi, however, and I appreciate all she did for Star Trek.

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  4. A fitting epitaph by dr_dank · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Computer...

    End program.

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    Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
    1. Re:A fitting epitaph by donig · · Score: 5, Funny

      She's dead, Jim.

    2. Re:A fitting epitaph by incognito84 · · Score: 1

      Ahh! I just wrote that and Slashdot told me "the exact same comment has already been posted." Great minds think alike?

    3. Re:A fitting epitaph by OpieTaylor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Without Majel Barrett, there can never be another Star Trek movie or show. It is forbidden.

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      Thanks a lot, big brain. (K. Vonnegut, "Galapagos")
    4. Re:A fitting epitaph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what I said after movie Number 5 (the name that shall not be spoken). Didn't work out that time either.

    5. Re:A fitting epitaph by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Without Majel Barrett, there can never be another Star Trek movie or show. It is forbidden.

      The Star Trek exhibit at the Queen Mary had a shuttle ride thing, sorta like a watered-down Star Tours. If I recall, it used the voice from the Cardassian computers in DS9. It ground my teeth from a continuity point of view, but the chick doing that voice doesn't do a bad job in a more general sense.

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    6. Re:A fitting epitaph by thatnerdguy · · Score: 3, Funny

      or fools seldom differ...

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      I saw the Sign, and it opened up my eyes
    7. Re:A fitting epitaph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One can only hope.

    8. Re:A fitting epitaph by mwarps · · Score: 1

      Computer...

      End program.

      This. Very fitting.

    9. Re:A fitting epitaph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      She's dead, Jim!

    10. Re:A fitting epitaph by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      She actually finished recording for the new movie... so I guess they can stop after that?

    11. Re:A fitting epitaph by Timberwolf0122 · · Score: 1

      After years of up time even the Enterprise computer submitted to the BSOD.

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    12. Re:A fitting epitaph by msu320 · · Score: 1

      Live long and prosper?

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      New slashdot layout sucks.
    13. Re:A fitting epitaph by GravityStar · · Score: 1

      Entirely possible that the voice of the computer in DS9 was Starfleet voice module 967-C, authorized for proliferation and installation in non-Starfleet facilities. *shrug*

      And don't try to compare the Queen Mary with any Starfleet ship now... ;)

    14. Re:A fitting epitaph by Avatar8 · · Score: 1
      Similar to how Tasha "signed off," but still fitting.

      "Hailing frequencies closed... forever."

      R.I.P., Majel.

    15. Re:A fitting epitaph by strikethree · · Score: 1

      Dude, that was deep. It made me cry. Truth.

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  5. details by flynt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Were there any further details? Truly a Klingon icon.

  6. Knock Knock... Hello Mr. Computer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    <Knocking on the wall>
    Mr. Computer...

    End Program.

  7. Her last words? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Self-destruct sequence commencing ..."

  8. computer voice similarity explained by heironymous · · Score: 1

    Can anyone remember the Star Trek novel that explained that it was the voice of Number One (played by Barrett) that became the voice of the Enterprise computer?

    1. Re:computer voice similarity explained by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Rift by Peter David
      http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/The_Rift

      I'm a nerd.

    2. Re:computer voice similarity explained by Teresita · · Score: 1

      Majel Inside -- run your applications at Warp Speed!

    3. Re:computer voice similarity explained by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      and you shall be beaten accordingly
      --
      a bully

    4. Re:computer voice similarity explained by rhyder128k · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nerds beating nerds, how perverse.

      --
      Michael Reed, freelance tech writer.
    5. Re:computer voice similarity explained by proverbialcow · · Score: 3, Funny

      Psssht. I beat myself all the time.

      To pics of Nurse Chappel. *sob*

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      The only surefire protection against Microsoft infections is abstinence. - The Onion
  9. c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jokes by unix_geek_512 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Out of respect for Majel Roddenberry, her family, friends, Gene Roddenberry's legacy and Star Trek itself *please* save your jokes for another day.

    My condolences to her Son, the rest of her family, friends and all who loved her.

    May she rest in peace.

    Thank you

  10. Roddenberry by stokessd · · Score: 3, Funny

    Isn't that one of the syrup flavors at IHOP?

    Sheldon

    1. Re:Roddenberry by Guitarist4096 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      How lame and rude.. Why are half of the comments on here already making lame and inappropriate comments about the passing of a wonderful woman who has captivated our minds and our hearts for 40 years?

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    2. Re:Roddenberry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're new here, aren't you?

    3. Re:Roddenberry by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Isn't that one of the syrup flavors at IHOP?

      Only if it's been sittin' round too long.

    4. Re:Roddenberry by ArcherB · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Isn't that one of the syrup flavors at IHOP?

      Sheldon

      Actually, the Roddenberry from an episode of Futurama that they were looking for when they were starving after leaving the planet of moochers. It was intended as reference to Gene Roddenberry (if I have to tell you who he is, please remove your SlashDot account!)

      Also, the title, "The Problem with Popplers" was in reference to "The Trouble with Tribbles", a Star Trek episode.

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    5. Re:Roddenberry by TwilightXaos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We shall honor the dead how we wish.

      Perhaps you need to lighten the fuck up.

      Lame and rude? Like she cares now.

      Do you seriously think she wouldn't laugh at these jokes, if she were here?

      If that is the case, then I am glad she is gone. Those that can't laugh at themselves are the poorest souls, and life in it's wonder is lost on them; death is better.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ&feature=channel

    6. Re:Roddenberry by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 1

      OH MY GOD! Where are my mod points when I need them?!

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      The game.
    7. Re:Roddenberry by Joebert · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Because none of us were bangin her and she wasn't any of our mother (with the exception of Insensitive Clod).

      We really didn't know her, just the character she played to entertain us, so realisticly, it would be rather inappropriate to react to this news without some form of entertainment value.

      Maybe it's just me.

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    8. Re:Roddenberry by QuantumG · · Score: 1
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    9. Re:Roddenberry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Isn't that one of the syrup flavors at IHOP?

      Sheldon

      Relatives of Gene and Majel owned a Roddenberry syrup and peanut company about 20 years back in my hometown of Cairo, GA. The company was eventually bought out but the name still exists and can be found in some form in grocery stores nationwide. So even if this was meant as a joke, it's kind of true.

      My high school's mascot is the 'Syrupmaker' because of that company. *sigh*
      Gene visited a few times and actually came to one of our football games in the 80's...but I was to young to remember it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_High_School

    10. Re:Roddenberry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No 6-digit ID punk should be allowed to tell anyone to remove their account.

    11. Re:Roddenberry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to lighten down.

      You're not that special, or damn funny, or just plain non-retarded to sober up for 5 minutes and treat someone respectfully. "Life in its wonder"... way to try to turn your asshole behavior into an attempt to say you're a wonder of the world. Oh wait, it didn't work, you're just a fuckwit. The best that will be said at YOUR funeral (may it be soon) is that we're glad you are gone.

      Don't be so damn narcissistic that you have to make yourself the center of attention via any means possible in any social context.

      Or to sum it up in the lowest common denominator that you will understand: STFU

      And for those of you who gave this chode an "insightful".... Choke on it you worthless shits.

    12. Re:Roddenberry by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      I gotta say ... you're the odd man out in this thread. If anyone is trying to make himself the center of attention right not, it's not the GP. He just fit right in.

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    13. Re:Roddenberry by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Do you seriously think she wouldn't laugh at these jokes, if she were here?

      Finally, someone has uploaded the Graham Chapman ashes clip to YouTube:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox9bcx_LZMs

      "Monty Python Live at Aspen was a reunion show featuring all the surviving members of Monty Python. Graham Chapman was also allegedly in attendance as his "ashes" were brought out in an urn. The Pythons looked back at their work and received an award (AFI award). It also featured some memorable moments when..."

  11. "the pesky and officious Lwaxana Troi" by MWDrexel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Turn in your card.

  12. "Death is that state... by Azgaard · · Score: 5, Insightful

    in which one exists only in the memory of others." - Natasha Yar

    Thankfully we have DVDs.

    God speed Majel. Say hi to Gene for us.

    1. Re:"Death is that state... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know that she is dead, right? So who are you talking to?

    2. Re:"Death is that state... by msobkow · · Score: 1

      A fitting quote at a sad time. The Star Trek and other universes will never be the same without her.

      However, I doubt we've seen the end of Star Trek the movies. Hopefully they've plenty of audio footage of her doing the computer so we don't have to suffer a poor imitation.

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    3. Re:"Death is that state... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait... if she only exists in the memory of others, then how exactly will she say hi to Gene?

    4. Re:"Death is that state... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God speed Majel. Say hi to Gene for us.

      This brought a tear to my eye. Few, but powerful words.

      Indeed. Majel - God speed.

    5. Re:"Death is that state... by Erbo · · Score: 1
      We mourn her loss, and we salute the life of someone who gave so much to the universe that is her and her husband's legacy to us all.

      Attention on deck! Honors...HUT!

      (From somewhere, a set of bagpipes start playing "Amazing Grace.")

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  13. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Out of respect for the dearly departed, please... DO MAKE ALL THE JOKES YOU CAN THINK OF. Only a self important sourpuss would want people crying over their passing.

    I'm going to do what Scotty would have done: Drink a bottle of something good and bask in the fond memories.

  14. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by fracai · · Score: 1

    Won't matter. Betazoids know what you're thinking either way.

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  15. I know, I know, the orginal Number One by unassimilatible · · Score: 1, Insightful

    But I was trying to be concise in my submission, and I did say, "best known as." Besides, I knew all you nerds would fill in the blanks.

    We'll miss you, Majel. - Submitter.

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    1. Re:I know, I know, the orginal Number One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your signature is lacking in accuracy

  16. Thank you! by Khan · · Score: 1

    Majel,
    Thank you for all of your contributions to Star Trek and Sci Fi in general. No computer ever sounded better. You will be missed.

    -k

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    "Klaatu, verada, necktie!" -Ash

    1. Re:Thank you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KHAAAAN!

  17. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Vellmont · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why is it so sad? People die every day, most of which I've never heard of. Do you feel sad for every one of them? I'd hope not.

    I didn't know her, and never met her. she died maybe a few years to young, but such is life. She was on a television show that I've watched. I guess I don't feel that's enough reason to be sad about her death.

    I find it a little odd that you want everyone to behave as if it was their own mother that died.

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  18. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Unless you're a Ferengi.

  19. Little known fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The couple married in Japan in 1969 after "Star Trek" was canceled.

    The wedding party was naked.

  20. May I be the first to say... by Brooklynoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    "She's dead, Jim"

    1. Re:May I be the first to say... by Teresita · · Score: 5, Funny

      "She's dead, Jim"

      No, it's "She's dead, get off her Jim!"

    2. Re:May I be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KHAAAAAN!!!

    3. Re:May I be the first to say... by andrewa · · Score: 2, Funny

      Spleeeeen!!!!

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    4. Re:May I be the first to say... by VShael · · Score: 1

      She's dead Jim, but she's still warm.
      Want to flip a coin?

  21. Iconic... by sirroc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My wife and I were just discussing her the other evening; while watching WALL-E. Feeling sad that pixar didn't cast her as the voice of the ship's computer. Instead we got a vague homage to Alien in Sigourney Weaver.

    What I am now coming to realize by digesting this sad news; is that playing the voice of such a seemingly mundane role -of a starship's computer, Has become an icon of the Sci-Fi genre. While certainly not the first to play such a role. She certainly changed the entire paradigm of how the role was portrayed.

    Her efforts to continue her husbands work and support of the genre will be sorely missed.

    1. Re:Iconic... by cavefrog · · Score: 5, Funny

      "My wife and I were just discussing her the other evening; while watching WALL-E. Feeling sad that pixar didn't cast her as the voice of the ship's computer. Instead we got a vague homage to Alien in Sigourney Weaver."

      Hmm. And Sigourney Weaver played the part of Gwen DeMarco in Galaxy Quest - a person who's job it was to repeat what the computer was saying.

    2. Re:Iconic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife and I were just discussing her the other evening; while watching WALL-E. Feeling sad that pixar didn't cast her as the voice of the ship's computer. Instead we got a vague homage to Alien in Sigourney Weaver.

      What I am now coming to realize by digesting this sad news; is that playing the voice of such a seemingly mundane role -of a starship's computer, Has become an icon of the Sci-Fi genre. While certainly not the first to play such a role. She certainly changed the entire paradigm of how the role was portrayed.

      Her efforts to continue her husbands work and support of the genre will be sorely missed.

      If she was battling leukemia all this time, she couldn't also be the voice of the computer of the Axiom in WALL*E too; she must have been fighting this disease for a long while. It's a tough illness to fight.

      I will miss this lady, and all the she meant to me, and science fiction. People at the Trek Nation web site called her 'Gene's doxey' , but she made him happy, and she made Star Trek what it was, and is, and that outweighs what those silly people at that site think of her. She is a great woman, the Grande Dame of TV sci-fi, and she will be honored by be like that, always.

      May the Force be with you, Majel.

    3. Re:Iconic... by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmm. And Sigourney Weaver played the part of Gwen DeMarco in Galaxy Quest - a person who's job it was to repeat what the computer was saying.

      ...and Galaxy Quest also costars Sam Rockwell who stars alongside none other than Kevin Bacon. I win!! Oh wait... We were playing 6 Degrees To Kevin Bacon right?

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    4. Re:Iconic... by catbertscousin · · Score: 1

      Instead we got a vague homage to Alien in Sigourney Weaver.

      Huh. I thought they were paying homage to HAL9000, what with the design of Otto's single, red eye and the whole taking over the ship thing . . .

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    5. Re:Iconic... by Insightfill · · Score: 1

      ...and Galaxy Quest also costars Sam Rockwell who stars alongside none other than Kevin Bacon. I win!! Oh wait... We were playing 6 Degrees To Kevin Bacon right?

      No mod points, but thought I'd reply that I thought this was pretty funny.

    6. Re:Iconic... by sirroc · · Score: 1

      Otto was the Autopilot.

    7. Re:Iconic... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      That *has* to be a reference to "Airplane!"

    8. Re:Iconic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      May the Force be with you, Majel.

      bzzzzzzt! try again.

  22. Vale, Majel by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

    Vale, Majel. You were sexy, you were smart. And you kept the good man inspired. We owe you, take it out of the karma bank.

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    1. Re:Vale, Majel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jesus Barfing Christ

  23. Good night... by Draconi · · Score: 1

    ...sweet princess.

  24. "Destruct sequence completed and engaged.... by BadEvilYoda · · Score: 1

    awaiting final code for one-minute countdown."

  25. Here's to Ms.Lwaxana Troi by Bananatree3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Every one of us has a thousand different kinds of... of little people inside of us. And some of them want to get out and be wild, and some want to be sad or happy or inventive or... or even just go dancing. That's why we all have so many different urges at different times. And all those different little people inside of us... we must never be afraid to take them with us, wherever we go."

    "Life's true gift is the capacity to enjoy enjoyment."

    Thank you for your humor, your kindness and quirky insights into life.

    1. Re:Here's to Ms.Lwaxana Troi by BrowserCapsGuy · · Score: 1

      Um, you're quoting a character, not the woman herself. Still, I think that was one of my favorite lines of Lwaxana's.

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    2. Re:Here's to Ms.Lwaxana Troi by ccandreva · · Score: 1

      99% of the time I would agree.

      However, when the wife of the creator, who has essentially inherited the mantel, delivers a speech as a lesson to a child, in a series already known for being preachy, my gut tells me she meant this one.

    3. Re:Here's to Ms.Lwaxana Troi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you didn't think she had a solid hand in that line being in there, you'd be mistaken...

    4. Re:Here's to Ms.Lwaxana Troi by BrowserCapsGuy · · Score: 1

      I'd like to think she did mean it. The first one is perhaps my favorite thing spoken by Majel as Lwaxana.

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  26. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by M1rth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No shit.

    The best way to memorialize someone isn't to cry boo-hoo over the fact that they died... but to celebrate what they gave us in their life. I'm sure there are an absolute ton of wonderful stories about her, and if you feel the need to make a joke related to her career... you validate her career and life by doing so.

    "She's dead, Jim." But at the same time the memories of her live on, and all she contributed to our lives will not be soon forgotten.

    Raise a glass and make a toast: to Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, who Boldly Went Where No Woman Had Gone Before starting at the very beginning.

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  27. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    Why is it so sad? People die every day, most of which I've never heard of. Do you feel sad for every one of them?

    No, he's showing respect for people that have touched his life.

    Why do I feel like you're Data and I'm Riker? Dammit.

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  28. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Zibblsnrt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having (briefly) met her once, I think she'd appreciate the cascade of awful, awful Trek jokes that would spring up at the news of something like this.

    Or the Scotty route, which ideally done results in a thundering hangover and the inability to find at least half your clothes.

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  29. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by renegadesx · · Score: 1

    A Kirk/Spock comparision would have been more appropiate

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  30. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So true, everyone should watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsHk9WC7fnQ

  31. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by PinkyGigglebrain · · Score: 1

    I'm with you and Scotty.

    Drink to her memory, drink to the life she lived, and have another for all the times she made me laugh, smile, or just glade to hear her voice.

    We'll all miss her, but we'll also remember her.

  32. We will miss you. by ZonkerWilliam · · Score: 1
    I've never seen anyone more dedicated to keeping her husbands dream, and those of us who shared in it, alive.

    Second star to the right and straight on till morning!

  33. Condolences by QAPete · · Score: 1

    She was well-liked and highly-respected, and through her acting, was a part of the fabric of "me." RIP, Majel, and my condolences to her family and friends.

  34. Re:if there was ever a time.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fermion
    I am fairly No one has ever tied you down, propped open your eyes and forced you to watch anything star trek against your will.
    Please, feel free to never watch again.

    I on the other hand still enjoy the shows in all their variations and will appreciate more.

  35. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by rhyder128k · · Score: 1

    Now we just need the TOS "comedy" music to play after every howler. duh-duhdudludu du du du.

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  36. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by shanen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I agree with the reasoning, but I still can't manage it. The news does fill me with sadness and makes me feel quite old, too. Shatner/Kirk is relatively well preserved--and sometimes he looks ancient.

    I regard TOS as a great epoch and a total fluke that it was associated with NBC. The production of TOS was practically a war with their ostensible sponsors, and now they great people of those days are leaving us. Meanwhile, NBC staggers on with such brilliant strategies as dumping prime time on Jay Leno. Hey, if you can't win, you might as well get out of the game, eh?

    Anyway, I want to be optimistic about the future. I actually think part of the optimism of TOS was related to the idealism that ran amok during the Kennedy period. Now I wonder if Obama can create such an atmosphere on the wreckage that Dubya is leaving behind? The wild oscillations of America's political system seem to be completely out of control these days...

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  37. Sorry to hear it by east+coast · · Score: 1

    Godspeed Majel.

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    1. Re:Sorry to hear it by arth1 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Minor niggle: Godspeed is something you wish upon living people, because you want their voyage to be quick. With someone departed, it doesn't make sense, because the voyage they embark on is for eternity -- there's no advantage to speed.

      And in Majel Barrett's case, surely a wish of speed would be "warp speed"?

    2. Re:Sorry to hear it by east+coast · · Score: 1

      because the voyage they embark on is for eternity -- there's no advantage to speed.

      Well, at least that's the Judio-Christian-Muslim version of it.

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  38. Though.. by Seraphim_72 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Though HAL was the voice of AI, I had always hoped that we would be able to get to the point where we could perfectly replicate her voice. It would have been fitting that in the 24th century that her voice really would have been the voice of the computer. God Speed and God Bless Majel, we are all richer for your life here.

    Seraphim

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    1. Re:Though.. by Robin47 · · Score: 1

      Why not? They named the first space shuttle Enterprise.

    2. Re:Though.. by ozamosi · · Score: 1

      Dude, did you miss the message? They've retconned that.

      Why not? They named the first space shuttle Enterprise.

      Yeah, but that was because of a number of historical ships carrying that name - which means that the starship enterprise will have been named after the space shuttle.

      Anything else is non-canon.

    3. Re:Though.. by fyrewulff · · Score: 1

      Actually, the Shuttle Enterprise was going to be called the Constitution after the naval ship of the same name. It was renamed to Enterprise after a write-in campaign and they brought out the TOS cast for it's first 'public' appearance.

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    4. Re:Though.. by ozamosi · · Score: 1

      That's what you'd think, but it would be very weird if the Starship Enterprise would be named after the Shuttle Enterprise, that would be named after some pretend Starship from some goofy TV show - therefore, the real world has been retconned. The events you refer to have no longer taken place, and any documentation thereof is therefore no longer canon. The result can be seen in the opening credits of Star Trek: Enterprise.

    5. Re:Though.. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Why not? They named the first space shuttle Enterprise.

      Which never went into space. Its only flights were in the atmosphere.

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    6. Re:Though.. by studog-slashdot · · Score: 1
      And so it is prophesied, and so it shall come to pass...

      ...Stu

    7. Re:Though.. by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Actually, the Shuttle Enterprise was going to be called the Constitution after the naval ship of the same name.

      This is, of course, true in fact, but not in the continuity of Star Trek where the shuttle itself is one of the preceding "Enterprises" after which the series of starships was named. (Interestingly enough, Constitution was adopted as the class name of the starship class to which Enterprise belonged in the novelization of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, a designation which was incorporated into later episodes and films.)

  39. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here, here!

    Why wasn't a tricorder used in time?

    Must have felt other-worldly to have been in so many Star Trek episodes!

    But, in reference to the question in the main post, "who hasn't used her voice as a system sound on their PC?", me.

  40. To mourn...perchance, to celebrate a life by GlobalMind · · Score: 1

    I'll rephrase say what I posted when Gene passed: May she live long and prosper in a better place.

  41. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by ArcherB · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A Kirk/Spock comparision would have been more appropiate

    Actually, a Spock/Bones comparison would have been better.

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  42. Things like this... by patryn20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...make you realize just what you take for granted. That voice was the same from day one. Yet it never dawned on me there was a person (and, it turns out, a relatively prominent one) behind that sound. Another talent gone. Another memory created. Another ubiquitous item in our lives that will have to be replaced. The voice will never be the same. Godspeed, Majel.

    1. Re:Things like this... by lilomar · · Score: 4, Funny

      Godspeed, Majel.

      Is that warp-eight, or -nine?

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    2. Re:Things like this... by computerman413 · · Score: 1

      Warp 10, I think. RIP, Majel.

    3. Re:Things like this... by LordKazan · · Score: 1

      It's Godspeed.. therefore it must be Warp 10

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    4. Re:Things like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or potentially Warp 10... time certainly has stopped for her and Gene now that they're together again...

    5. Re:Things like this... by dodobh · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's warp-eleven.

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    6. Re:Things like this... by Mechanik · · Score: 1

      Godspeed, Majel.

      Is that warp-eight, or -nine?

      No, it's plaid.

      Oops, wait, wrong franchise.

    7. Re:Things like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, it's beyond Warp ten!

    8. Re:Things like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's warp ten, obviously. Watch more Voyager, seriously.

    9. Re:Things like this... by inject_hotmail.com · · Score: 1

      It's warp-eleven.

      Is that like infinity + one?

    10. Re:Things like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's one of those "jokes" that has an obvious, "serious" answer. Ten.

    11. Re:Things like this... by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      Infinity - 1, actually. I prefer the Bistro drive, myself. Lower chance of random hitchhikers.

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    12. Re:Things like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, hey, hey! There's a warp-five speed limit posted! If you go faster, you degrade subspace!

      Sheesh!

    13. Re:Things like this... by TheQuantumShift · · Score: 1

      And just what does God need with a starship anyway?

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    14. Re:Things like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Godspeed, Majel.

      Is that warp-eight, or -nine?

      Warp 10.

    15. Re:Things like this... by whoppo · · Score: 1

      I believe that would be the ever elusive (except that one time in the Delta Flyer) Warp 10.

      Another name for the roster of lost crew members. :-(

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    16. Re:Things like this... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 1

      Godspeed, Majel.

      Is that warp-eight, or -nine?

      My guess is that she's in a Transwarp conduit right now.

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    17. Re:Things like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i beleive the interstellar speed limit is around warp 6.5, due to environmental effects of warp travel.

    18. Re:Things like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Godspeed, Majel.

      Is that warp-eight, or -nine?

      No. Warp ten!

  43. Majel, we'll miss you! by bgibby9 · · Score: 1

    The trek world will never be the same!

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  44. Always a fan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was lucky enough to meet her in person at a convention in Omaha back in '93. She signed hundreds of autographs that day. Sad day for Sci-Fi fans around the world (universe).

  45. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by xPsi · · Score: 1

    Everyone mourns in different ways. Laugh, cry, tell jokes, be quiet, scream out, whatever you are compelled to do. However, I don't suggest judging the mourning styles of others.

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  46. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 1

    >I'm with you and Scotty.

    >Drink to her memory, drink to the life she lived, and have another for all the times she made me laugh, smile, or just glade to hear her voice.

    >We'll all miss her, but we'll also remember her.

    I shall look for something appropriately Grrrrreen.

    (If you don't get that, you haven't paid attention to Star Trek)

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  47. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 1

    Anyone up for a good car analogy?

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  48. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by qortra · · Score: 1

    Funny you should mention this - I was about to comment about how impressed I was with just how respectful the entire Slashdot crowd has been so far. There have been plenty of jokes, but every one that I've seen is in good taste, and there have been no specifically defamatory comments (as there so often are).

    I don't think that people should necessarily hold off on the jokes - just imagine that Magel and her family were reading your post, and you should be good to go. In other words, don't write anything that you wouldn't want the departed or her family to read.

  49. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by aukset · · Score: 1

    Boy, you'd never make it in EMS...

    The jokes are not for the departed, they are for those of us who still remain and have to live on with the memories. If it is disrespectful to take care of one's self, then so be it. They are dead, they won't care. Trust me.

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  50. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Out of respect for the dearly departed, please... DO MAKE ALL THE JOKES YOU CAN THINK OF.

    OK!

    She made beautiful music in life. Now, instead of a composer, she is a decomposer.

    She's a stiff who is giving me a stiffie.

    After all those petite mortes she gave me now she got the grande morte!

    Now that she's nothing but a bag of bones I'd like to give her another bone.

  51. Xzibit??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yo dawg i herd yo like LCARS so we put LCARS in yo car

  52. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by godless+dave · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I'd mod you up but you're already at 5. Suffice to say I agree with you.

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  53. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Unless you're a Ferengi.

    It doesn't take a Betazoid to know what the greedy, little perverts are thinking.

  54. laughter - the best medicine by Thaelon · · Score: 1

    She's dead, Jim.

    (Yes, you are supposed to laugh, making sad people sadder at a funeral is wrong, you should be making them smile.)

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  55. [Tweedlesquirge] by Burz · · Score: 1

    ... silence

  56. Pics by Thaelon · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wiki links (with pics):
    Christine Chapel from the original series, and Lwaxana Troi from The Next Generation.

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    1. Re:Pics by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

      If you ask me, Lwaxana Troi was one of the most interesting characters in TNG. She brought a whole lot of depth to the whole Betazoid thing, and let's not forget (this being Slashhdot) she even appeared naked in one episode! Very few characters had the same ability to stir things up on the Enterprise, Q being another obvious example.

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    2. Re:Pics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The book "Q-in-Law" should have been made into an episode. What happens when Q and Lwaxana meet up...oh, I howled in laughter.

      Spoiler below:
      Lwaxana gets Q power at one point, then gets ticked off, at Q. She's rather ingenious about it, too.

    3. Re:Pics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Pics by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      ...two hours after first clicking on that link, I finally get off my Star Trek Wikipedia/Memory Alpha binge!

      - RG>

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  57. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    True that. Day I found out my mother died, I had a hysterical laughing fit in the shower. Over a really awful joke too. Not the kind that ends in tears either, just the kind that ends in gasping for air. People grieve in very different ways. Just so long as they avoid doing it at the funeral...

  58. That's a shame by raind · · Score: 0, Troll

    Stuff that matters?

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  59. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by shanen · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Please designate me as your foe so I won't notice any of your feebleminded and hopeless crap in the future. I should at least point out some of your internal contradictions where you are by definition lying on on at least one side--but you aren't worth it.

    Why? I've decided I've suffered far too many fools, if not gladly, then at least without saying much about it.

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  60. I know what to do... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Time to watch TOS from the beginning... again... :)

    1. Re:I know what to do... by hack++slash · · Score: 1

      Splendid idea. For the past couple of weeks I've been watching all episodes of Andromeda and I'm about 3 episodes away from the end of the 5th season. I'm going to get TOSsed next.

      Over the weekend I'm going to dig out Trekkies and Trekkies 2 to watch to get myself 'immersed' back into the world of Trek.

      God I love sci-fi.

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  61. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by CharlieG · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's OK if you can't manage it. I remember when Dad passed, some folks had funny stories about Dad (including a time he was arrested that I didn't know about!! - and I was in my 30s when it happened - charges dismissed). I was unable to make the jokes Dad would have appreciated, but I myself appreciated hearing them

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  62. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

    Please designate me as your foe so I won't notice any of your feebleminded and hopeless crap in the future. I should at least point out some of your internal contradictions where you are by definition lying on on at least one side--but you aren't worth it.

    Why? I've decided I've suffered far too many fools, if not gladly, then at least without saying much about it.

    Way to go out of your way to prove you are 'right'. I especially like where you call his crap feebleminded. You know, that's how the church was convinced the world wasn't flat anymore. They didn't show any sort of scientific data, they just called the pope feebleminded.

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  63. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

    I'm with you and Scotty. Drink to her memory, drink to the life she lived, and have another for all the times she made me laugh, smile, or just glade to hear her voice. We'll all miss her, but we'll also remember her.

    It's difficult to stomach, but go grab a bottle of whiskey and some green food coloring. Make yourself a nice bottle of Aldebren Whiskey ala "Relics" (TNG 230). Then fire up "Cost of Living" (TNG 220).

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  64. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

    A Kirk/Spock comparision would have been more appropiate

    Actually, a Spock/Bones comparison would have been better.

    Bones? AAAAAGH. *sob*

    While you're at it, why don't you give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice on it.

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  65. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by darkpixel2k · · Score: 2, Funny

    Boy, you'd never make it in EMS...

    The jokes are not for the departed, they are for those of us who still remain and have to live on with the memories. If it is disrespectful to take care of one's self, then so be it. They are dead, they won't care. Trust me.

    I remember the strangest situation where a guy died in the middle of a huge folk concert with all his family around. We couldn't wait there for hours until the coroner arrived, so instead we transported him back to the station and had him sitting on the bay floor, covered with a tarp. Only his boots were sticking out.

    We were doing shift-change, and my partner made a crack about needing a new pair of boots and how the guy wouldn't miss 'em. I laughed so hard my sides hurt for days. It certainly wouldn't be appropriate for the family to hear, but making jokes and laughing about it helps a lot of people grieve, get over the stress of the situation, or just plain feel better.

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  66. Farewell, Majel Leigh by Anonymous+Cowherd+X · · Score: 0

    Farewell, Majel Leigh

    'tis a sad day
    for us to know
    that we had to let you go
    to a universe beyond our reach.
    But fear not, dear Majel Leigh,
    for time shall never bleach
    your majestic legacy.

    What you have said and done
    we will cherish for all eternity,
    allowing everyone
    to live long and prosper in harmony.
    Until we meet with you and Gene
    keep your spirits up
    and we'll keep on working on warp drive
    and the time machine.

  67. RESPECT! by solios · · Score: 1

    Can anyone think of another actress who's done this much for science fiction?

    We're not talking a role here - we're talking Lifetime Achievement.

    Majel Barrett isn't just an icon - she's AWESOME. I personally can't think of another acting talent whose passing has diminished the genre to such a degree.

    No matter how you choose to spin it, this woman has done a LOT for science fiction, and her passing deserves to be marked.

    * Dan sheds a tear for the Voice Of Star Trek, Now Silenced.

  68. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about you stop being a craven douche, and let people grieve how they wish?

  69. Allow me to try to be more accurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honk off, bozo.

  70. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    my partner made a crack about needing a new pair of boots and how the guy wouldn't miss 'em

    That sounds like a really lame cliche joke. Seriously. I sure hope his delivery was good... either that, or you have a simpleton's sense of humor.

  71. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone up for a good car analogy?

    It's like Michael Knight explaining respect for peoples' passing to KITT.

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  72. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  73. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was somewhat shocking, sudden and unexpected. Hardly anyone except her family, I'm guessing, knew she had leukemia for a couple of years and then that she was on her deathbed with pneumonia in the last couple of days. I did read postings elsewhere that people who met her at recent cons remarked she looked tired and was moving slow, but then she was 76. Just like Gene, this was completely out of the blue. I don't know if it's any better, but at least with Jimmy Doohan, we knew he wasn't long for this world months in advance.

  74. Who hasn't used her voice.. by Orlando · · Score: 1

    as a system sound on their PC?

    Me.

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  75. Good bye by Stripe7 · · Score: 1

    Good bye and thanks for the memories and joy.

  76. Who will work miracles? by Ostracus · · Score: 1

    Bet you can't get her to say, "But Ostracus, you're so handsome." :)

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  77. I gave her a hard time. by theaveng · · Score: 1

    Majel and I were discussing Earth: Final Conflict. I said that I and the fans love the show, but the decision to kill-off Boone and move from a serialized story (like babylon 5) and to an episodic show was a mistake. She insisted that "Gene always preferred episodic stories" and "How do you know the quality will go down?"

    So I patiently watched the second and third seasons, and then I contacted her again: "I just finished watching the S3 finale. I was right. This show is now crap. I wish you had listened to the fans and left the show the way it was, with Boone, and with a strong serialized story."

    I wish I had not done that, but I was angry that she had stubbornly refused to listen to faithful viewers. EFC was a good show but ruined by a "change in direction" that was not needed.

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    1. Re:I gave her a hard time. by magisterx · · Score: 1

      Personally, I liked all 5 seasons of Earth: Final Conflict, though I do agree that the earlier seasons were better than the later ones. Regardless, her passing marks a sad day.

    2. Re:I gave her a hard time. by Thumper_SVX · · Score: 1

      Funnily enough, I had a similar conversation with her a few years ago... and she gave me a pretty similar answer. Though I did point out I enjoyed EFC even through the third season, a combination of episodic stories and a TV schedule that kept throwing it all over the map really destroyed my ability to enjoy the show as much as I would've liked. She agreed with me that the networks didn't take the show seriously at all, and it was only her name that really got the show to continue as long as it did.

      The same's actually true of Andromeda; it started out pretty damned well and I felt it had great potential. It was ruined though when they moved away from the great story arcs and more toward episodic TV... I turned off that one almost immediately when that happened.

      I do have to say though that when I met and talked to her (for quite some time, actually), I have to say that she was a great woman with a fantastic personality that sparkled... and a wonderful sense of humour. She seemed to be laughing at something almost constantly... talking to her was addictive and she actually (I think) would've enjoyed the torrent of bad jokes here on Slashdot.

      God speed, Majel... the world will mourn your passing at least as much as it did Gene's.

    3. Re:I gave her a hard time. by theaveng · · Score: 1

      >>>She agreed with me that the networks didn't take the show seriously

      That's because it wasn't on a network. It was sold individually to each station, and the station was free to air the show anytime they felt like it. Most stations tend to view these shows as "filler" to air whenever football is not on, rather than provide a faithful schedule.

      Both EFC and Andromeda were bad by Tribune Entertainment, and Tribune has a long history of wanting "dumb" entertainment because they believe aiming lower on the IQ results in better ratings. JMS of Babylon 5 was invited to work on EFC, but declined when he discovered Tribune was the backer.

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  78. Bless by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

    "Computer End Program"

    "Pearly Arch"

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    1. Re:Bless by VanessaE · · Score: 1

      Not to be pedantic, but given that we all want to remember her, I think the Trek cast would have stated it more like this:

      Computer, save and end program.
      Run program "pearly gates 1"

  79. ...her voice as a system sound...? - I haven't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And I'm a Star Trek fan... And this probably applies to all but the most hardcore trekkies, so let's not even talk about regular people. The thing with rhetorical questions is that when the answer comes out unexpected the whole thing sort of fizzles.

    1. Re:...her voice as a system sound...? - I haven't. by Yunzil · · Score: 1

      Yep, I didn't either. I wasn't aware there was some geek mandate about it.

  80. RE: Star Trek Movie by CrackedButter · · Score: 1

    Hasn't it been the case that good people die around the time of them making their last movie and it ends up being shit?

  81. Slashdot... by Brazilian+Geek · · Score: 1

    The only place where all (or at least most) of us read this news and immediately felt sad. I'll miss her voice but as someone said, thank goodness we have DVDs.

    Computer, rest in peace. End program.

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  82. Gah! by msimm · · Score: 1

    Another talent gone. Another memory created. Another ubiquitous item in our lives that will have to be replaced.

    People that think like that (and I don't presume you do) miss out on one really important underlying truth: change is the catalyst for creativity. She shared her gifts and after her so will many others, and so on.

    If she had something to give then what she gave us has already filled what we could imagine would be a void.

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  83. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by mikael_j · · Score: 1

    Wow, so you just hijacked the discussion so that you could spew out a rant about how evil welfare is. I take it you're a neo-liberal (to the americans: libertarian)?

    /Mikael

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  84. Some people are just impossible to replace... by __aarvde6843 · · Score: 2

    After reading /. for about 10 years, I couldn't resist to finally create an account. This deserves my first post.

    We lost a great human being but we are all very lucky to have been able to see and hear her until yesterday. Thank you for all the good moments I had watching and hearing you, Majel. I am still a fan and will only stop being one the day I die. It will be impossible to find a replacement for your personal talents.

  85. JMS put the words there, no stealth was needed by Shivetya · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.ntua.gr/lurk/countries/co/guide/053.html

    About halfway down the page is some discussion of the quote and Majel's appearance on B5.


    # Was Morella's speech about greatness intended as a tribute to Gene Roddenberry?
    There's probably a fair amount there that could apply to Gene, yes...

    # If a word comes out of a character's mouth, it's usually mine. The bit about greatness was one of them; had a number of different subtexts going on behind it.

    If anything I would say that while there might have been some rivalry among the crews the people who create are more likely to be friendly than anything else. It is a small world when it comes to finding truly creative people.

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    1. Re:JMS put the words there, no stealth was needed by Leafheart · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You know, that was written in 1996, and yet JMS was almost a visionary for the things that were to come. And had a such deep understand of politics that is incredible. I quote from that page and emphasis are mine.

      As for the USA-western perspective...during WW II we saw Japanese civilians interned in camps along the West Coast...afterward we saw people prosecuted for being Reds, saw careers and lives destroyed by even the hint of "commie" influence. If you look at newsreels and documentary footage from the time, you see a populace, fresh out of a war, who survived by focusing on the Enemy, given a new enemy. Might they have gone along with some kind fo martial law if they thought that if they *didn't* cooperate, the nation might be vulnerable to Russian nukes or invasion? I think the climate was perfect for it.

      Could it happen right here, right now? No, because the surrounding climate isn't right. Could it happen if the conditions *were* right? Of course it could. We're not genetically or evolutionarily different from the Germans or the Russians or the Cubans or the Iraquis. If we think we'd never fall for that, we place ourselves in *exactly* the position of guaranteeing that we *will* fall for it. Because we won't recognize it when it happens. We can justify and rationalize it as something else.

      Here's the number one rule: a population will always stay passive for as long as they perceive that they stand to lose more by opposing the government than by staying quiet. It's when they have little or nothing left to lose that they rise up; the politicos first, then, more reluctantly, the general population.

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  86. "Fortunately, Majel just finished her voice over" by RichiH · · Score: 1

    ..yah, I can tell how sad you are. How dare she die when you just caught up to watching one or two series?

  87. RIP by mwarps · · Score: 1

    Rest In Peace.

    The Original Series crew is slowly leaving us. It's a shame.

  88. System sound by jeremyp · · Score: 0

    who hasn't used her voice as a system sound on their PC?

    I haven't. My brother hasn't. All my friends haven't. Everybody in the office where I work hasn't. My Parents haven't.

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    1. Re:System sound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      you don't belong here on shlashdot. Get out while you can

  89. That's on pages 80-81, btw. by mikelieman · · Score: 4, Informative
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  90. Perturbed by conureman · · Score: 1

    Not really pissed off... Can't quite relate it to the Majel Roddenberry issue however. I must be new here.

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  91. Universally Loved? by paddbear · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've seen this news and reaction on many different sites, and I can't even count on one human hand the number of snotty or snarky responses. She was loved and admired by many, many different people, from all walks of life.

    1. Re:Universally Loved? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      fuck off. someone died. boo fucking hoo.

  92. Preserving Voice Actors' Voices... with MIDI? by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 1

    You know, it's surprises me that we haven't looked toward more analog methods of preserving a certain person's voice, aside from splicing and disassembling audio recordings.

    For example, has there been any attempts to actually model the entire vocal system of a human (ie, a physical "mouth", "tongue" "nasal path", "trachea", "lungs", "diaphragm", etc) based on CT scans, then linking these elements to a computer in order to control them via a MIDI interface to form the various base phoneme ranges combined with pitch shifts?

    If we could manage that much, it doesn't seem all that far fetched to attach a special text-to-MIDI application to make it speak words and lines with tweaking options to adjust the inflection of each word relative to the others.

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    1. Re:Preserving Voice Actors' Voices... with MIDI? by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 1

      For that matter, the interface itself could be the line you want spoken, with a series of adjustable curve editors underneath for making minor real-time adjustments to the voice itself.

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  93. Gorgeous? by SwashbucklingCowboy · · Score: 1

    I don't think so...

  94. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

    Er, you do realise that her death is posted under "Entertainment"?

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  95. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by josh61980 · · Score: 1

    Here Here, you just reminded me I have a good bottle of scotch at home. If the snowstorm dosn't get me a toast in her memory. On a side note is it just me or was this a horrible year of deaths for geeks. Gary Gygax, Author C. clark, and now Majel Barrett-Roddenberry. They will all be missed. Bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish Thats the way we do things, lad, we're making shit up as we wish The Klingons and the Romulans pose no threat to us 'Cause if we find we're in a bind we just make some shit up

  96. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Tekfactory · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have two Majel memories from when I met Majel briefly at a con in Dallas in the 90's. An acquaintance had gone to the con dressed up as an Orion slave chick, and we all went to see Majel announce who won the costume competition. She said she was envious of the girl's green makeup, and that they had used green paint on TOS. Majel being on contract was used for the original screen test to get the colors right before they used them on the guest star. Unfortunately every time they got the film back she looked normal, so they tried a darker green, and went back and forth with the guys who developed the film. Eventually it came out that they were color correcting her, finally they said "oh you wanted her to be green" and the color worked fine from then on.

    As for meeting her briefly, someone had put a petition in my hands to get more Lwaxana Troi episodes on the show, I had it for about five minutes and hadn't gotten anyone to sign. I finished talking with someone about something and turned around to see Majel standing behind me. I didn't know what else to say so I told her what the petition was for, and asked her if she'd sign. She politely decline "they probably wouldn't take it very seriously if I signed it."

  97. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why? do you not knowwho she really was?

    she was someone who loved laughter and jokes. to suppress laughter would be an outright insult to her.

    What is it with people obsessing over being solemn over death. Many cultures use a persons passing to celebrate that persons life.

    Only wierd people want to be quiet and sad over a persons passing.

    Celebrate her life, celebrate what she gave to the world. and if you have a tasteful joke TELL IT! And drink a toast with friends over her life.

    Dont have a quiet moment of reflection. tell a good joke or story, make someone laugh, smile and rejoice.

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  98. Godspeed is... by hellfire · · Score: 1

    ...warp 777.

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  99. Also played Dancing Green Alien in Credits by KevinGlenRoyGreer · · Score: 1

    I thought that I read somewhere that she also played the dancing green alien which appeared during the credits.  Does anyone know if this is true?

    1. Re:Also played Dancing Green Alien in Credits by MLease · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, that was Susan Oliver. The scene was from "The Cage" (the original pilot episode, which became the two-part "The Menagerie").

      -Mike

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    2. Re:Also played Dancing Green Alien in Credits by hawaiian717 · · Score: 1

      As pointed out just above, that was Susan Oliver. You're not far off though; Majel did the screen tests for the green makeup. http://www.tv.com/star-trek/the-cage/episode/24885/summary.html

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  100. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Ryan+Monster · · Score: 1

    Or a Breen (should I be ashamed or proud I know that?)

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  101. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by gosand · · Score: 1

    And that was your parent.
    This story and all these comments are about a woman who played a TV character. Totally different circumstances.

    Sorry, I have to rant here a little....

    I have never ever been a fan of Star Trek. I don't get the fanaticism in any way, with this or anything else. About the only thing I can compare it to is that I am a huge fan of The Simpsons, ever since it came on the air. I don't have a ton of memorabilia (I think Pez dispensers and the Monopoly game) and I certainly don't talk about it incessantly and insert it into every conversation. But if the voice of *insert character here* died, it certainly wouldn't make me sad. I mean, the passing of anyone is sad, but it happens constantly.

    I don't get bent out of shape when someone I don't know dies. Stop deluding yourselves into thinking you have remotely any kind of "relationship" with a TV character.

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  102. One of the most influential persons ever by jwillis84 · · Score: 1

    It's a sad sad day.. Computers everywhere have fallen silent. She was a wonderful person.

  103. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

    It's not that her death is considered entertainment, it's that she was involved in entertainment. Unfortunately, /. doesn't have a "Dead Entertainers" category, so this is the best they can do.

    Anyway, she'll be missed.

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  104. Majel is an icon... by inject_hotmail.com · · Score: 2, Interesting

    that I will truly miss.

    I recall watching one or two of the first ST:TNG episodes where Majel wasn't the voice of the computer...it just seemed wrong to me.

    I always liked the subtle tongue-in-cheek interaction that Lwoxana and "the computer" would have. If one didn't know that it was her playing both sides, it would seem innocuous. For those of us (most everyone watching Trek I would imagine) that knew, it was a neat little moment.

    I think that no one will ever replace her. She executed her role so perfectly, unswayed.

    I hope you had a great life, and have an even greater afterlife.

    See you on the other side.

  105. Re: Star Trek Movie by Eponymous+Bastard · · Score: 1

    Watch out. The Joker might want to have a word with you

  106. Mod allllllll the way up! by nedburns · · Score: 0

    This needs to be modded to the top.

  107. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

    I only found half my clothes, and yet I'm fully clothed.

    Though, this bra is a tad binding, and I can't snap it together.

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  108. No, Edie Adams was the "gorgeous" one by grikdog · · Score: 1

    Those of you who don't remember Ernie Kovacs may remember the wife locked with Cid Caesar in the hardware store basement in Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World. Now that's a gorgeous overexposed minor actress with family connections (Adams' "family" after Kovacs died was every comedian on Planet Earth).

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  109. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by TheLink · · Score: 1

    "I sure hope his delivery was good... either that, or you have a simpleton's sense of humor."

    If he's easily amused, he might be in for a life full of amusement.

    You on the other hand should lighten up. Seriously. :)

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  110. R.I.P :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was still hoping for a Cepstral-Engine with her voice :-(

  111. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by TheLink · · Score: 1

    To me it depends.

    If the person has had a long, full and good life then yes it's easy enough to celebrate.

    It's usually harder to celebrate if the person died way sooner than "normal" (unless that person somehow managed to drastically overstay his/her welcome ;) ).

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  112. who hasn't used her voice as a system sound ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I haven't!

  113. why cant computer science synthesize voice yet? by peter303 · · Score: 1

    We can pretty much fake out visual actors, called "digital doubles". These are used mainly for stunt scenes and back-shooting, and the rare case an actor expires before shooting is over. We cant completely synthesize realistic voice from scratch yet. Thats why animators still hire voice-overs. Although with a large stored word dictionary, you can patch sentences together. That would probably work for Majel.
    Because bit-rate of voice is one to two orders of magnitude smaller than graphics, people thought thae voice problem would have been solved first.

    But I think it come at some time. They'll probably be a speaking game on your cell phone that will speak text simulating anyone of a large set of living or dead celebrity. Probably big bucks for whoever gets it to the market first. Plus sell new voices like ring-tones too.

    1. Re:why cant computer science synthesize voice yet? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Although with a large stored word dictionary, you can patch sentences together. That would probably work for Majel.

      Well, for a computer's voice, she's already said pretty much all of the complete phrases you're going to need for a starship's computer without resorting to splicing ("Warning: outer hull breach"). You'll still want to pull them from the original recordings though rather than the final episodes so that there's no unwanted background noise to eliminate.

      A problem though is how a voice changes over time, and especially how the computer's voice sounded over time, from a harsh monotone in TOS (except for, "Computed, dear...") to the last TNG movies and Voyager episodes. That is exacerbated when you are splicing dialogue together.

      (Somewhere I have a file of Rene Auberjonois saying, "This is the left, this is the right, center, surround. Don't screw it up.")

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    2. Re:why cant computer science synthesize voice yet? by Matt+Perry · · Score: 1

      We cant completely synthesize realistic voice from scratch yet.

      We're as close with that as we are with digital actors. See http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/. It's pretty good without any editing. Some tweaking with how it provides the inflections when speaking would make it sound real. The problem is that it's all patented out the wazoo. There is a commercial offering here: http://www.wizzardsoftware.com/att_server.php.

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  114. I saw her frequently at Trek conventions by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Her family company (Lincoln Enterprises) owned the rights to lots of Star Trek trademarks. She'd often do stints at the dealer's tables.

  115. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by nasch · · Score: 1

    It may not be what you're thinking of, but it reminds me of:

    "It is... it is... It is green."

  116. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by nasch · · Score: 1

    Remember the "funeral" for Ro and LaForge? Yeah, more of that, less of dirges.

  117. Good...! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good, she's dead...she lost my respect after what she did to Gene's kids; if you don't know what I am talking about a quick search on Google will lead you in the right direction!

  118. Three ways in which your post is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Off-topic;
    2) There are more than one gorgeous girls in the world;
    3) You are the Fark geek, the virgin with high standards he could never achieve.

  119. Re:Who will replace her? Hey, invite Tina Weymouth by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    and then all Tom Tom users could be Tom Tom Club members...

    Does anyone wonder if Majel left in will the option for her son to allow use of her voice?

    If her voice is "Trek", could it be used in GPS devices without Paramount getting a cut?

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  120. The beginning of the end for Star Trek... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a huge fan of Star Trek, I see her death as the beginning of the end. I think that without her to guide the brand, we'll start seeing rampant commercialization take hold. Obviously Star Trek is a commercial enterprise; however, I'm talking INTRA-STORY commercialization, which has never, as far as I can recall, been included in any of the franchises.

    Case in point: I have it on very good authority from multiple sources that Kirk will be seen drinking from a Starbucks cup at some point in the movie. Starbucks paid a very hefty price for it too.

    Maybe it's time for Star Trek to finally buy the farm.

    All good things...

  121. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by CharlieG · · Score: 1

    RE don't delude yourself you have any kind of relationship with a TV Character

    Well, I do work with an actor who blew up the Enterprise on ST:TNG, and we've been to dinner socially and the like, so I'd like to delude myself I have a relationship with that actor ;)

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  122. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 1

    There were two such times in Star Trek. ("It's . . .Green!")

    One was Scotty ("By any other name")

    "I found this on Ganyroom... uh, uh, Ganymeer... mede"
    "What is it?"
    "It's... uh... it's green."

    trying to get an alien drunk; the other was Commander Data to Scotty ("Relics").

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  123. Adieu... by Aahzimandious · · Score: 1

    You are missed already... May you live long, in our hearts, and prosper - where ever the great beyond has taken you. Thank you for being a part of our lives, entertaining us as you did. *sad sigh*

  124. The final trek by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Majel Roddenberry was Gene's most natural complement and a very talented human being.

    God bless them both for sharing thought provoking science fiction and entertaining us for years!

    May your final trek, back through to the source of the universe be your greatest.

  125. Going to miss the entire cast. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not really a Star Trek geek as I have only attended one convention. OK dammit I am one. I sure will miss Majel and Scotty and each and every one of the cast as they pass away. Star Trek was the series that absolutely refused to go away. If only I could get back those hours I spent on front of my TV watching. Second and third times as well. Godspeed Majel.

  126. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

    "I sure hope his delivery was good... either that, or you have a simpleton's sense of humor." If he's easily amused, he might be in for a life full of amusement. You on the other hand should lighten up. Seriously. :)

    It wasn't really the delivery or a simple sense of humor--it was more the absurdity of it. I mean--how many times in life do you find yourself awake at 5 AM in a room full of people who have been up for 24 hours, standing in a circle around the body of a dead cowboy they just finished performing CPR on unsuccessfully, talking about what they are going to do for the rest of the day...and then someone says "Those are some sweet lookin' boots...you know--he'd never miss 'em"?

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  127. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by pipingguy · · Score: 1

    Now I wonder if Obama can create such an atmosphere on the wreckage that Dubya is leaving behind?

    "Dubya" was hit with devastating terrorist attacks on American soil a few short months after his inauguration (but that was all a sekrit Republican/CIA/Mossad plot/inside job, right?).

    Godspeed, Obama.

  128. A Lovely, Talented, and Gracious Woman by rickshaf · · Score: 1

    Only a little while after Gene Roddenberry passed, I attended the inaugural showing of Laserium's (exquisite) "The Wall" at Griffith Observatory in LA. Ms. Barrett-Roddenberry was also in attendance. After the show, I remained in my seat, because I wanted to let the show percolate a bit in my head before departing. As I sat there, Ms. Barrett-Roddenberry was approaching my aisle seat. She was alone, and her face showed the considerable strain of losing her life-long mate. (I learned later that she was one of a considerable number of folks associated with the Star-Trek franchise that do not travel with an entourage, but just do their normal business in public just like anyone else, a choice I find refreshing.) Everyone still in the hall was ignoring her, which might or might not have been appropriate. I'll never know. But I didn't ignore her. I stood up and said, "Ms. Roddenberry, you don't know me, but I was saddened by your husband's passing. I'm so sorry for your loss." With a slight smile, she replied, "Oh, thank you so much. It's been very hard to lose him, but many people have let me know how special he was to them, just as he was to me. That's helped a bit." With that, she bade me good evening, and went out of the hall. As I already mentioned, we didn't know one another, so I had no intention engaging her in a long, intrusive conversation. I just wanted her to know that I shared her loss and pain, even just a little bit. There's nothing earthshaking about this minor incident, except that many Hollywood stars would have either ignored me or been ungracious in the extreme. Instead, Ms. Barret-Roddenberry took my greeting for what it was, and replied graciously. Oh, sure, she was an actress, so the whole thing could have been "an act", but so what? If she chose to "act graciously", that, in itself, is an act of grace. I choose to believe that Majel Barrett-Roddenberry was a lovely, very-talented, and gracious woman. I'm betting that those who knew her well would agree. May she rest in peace.

  129. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by shanen · · Score: 1

    Nor am I interested in arguing with fools. Please designate me as your foe so I won't see any more of your crap, either.

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  130. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by shanen · · Score: 1

    Please designate me as your foe so I won't see any of your stupid Dubya-defending crap in the future. You're freedom of speech is not to be confused with having anything to say that is worth listening to.

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  131. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

    Nor am I interested in arguing with fools. Please designate me as your foe so I won't see any more of your crap, either.

    But apparently you have enough time to read slashdot stories and post half-assed replies to slashdot.

    It seems like what you're saying is "I'm right, but I don't have time to prove it to you. Just trust that I'm right."

    Just so you know how that comes across to other people is "I'm a moron. I don't have an argument, so I'm going to try to make you feel bad for questioning me. But trust me...I'm a moron".

    Keep up the good work.

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  132. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by shanen · · Score: 1

    Your only purpose in life is to designate me as your foe. Please complete your purpose. I certainly have no other use for you. On today's /. dickheads like you are a dime a dozen.

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  133. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

    Your only purpose in life is to designate me as your foe. Please complete your purpose. I certainly have no other use for you. On today's /. dickheads like you are a dime a dozen.

    Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer. How will it screw with your head if I friend you?

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  134. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by shanen · · Score: 1

    You're stupid enough to try that? The answer would be obvious if you weren't such an amazing moron. Hint: It is a simple convention that doesn't require any additional cooperation on your part, but it is reserved for the very stupidest of the stupid. Worth a nickel a dozen versus the dime a dozen.

    Why don't you take the easy way out and just designate me a foe. You've removed any doubts on my part that you are a sufficiently worthy idiot. Probably you're just another one of pudge's sock puppets.

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  135. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by darkpixel2k · · Score: 1

    You're stupid enough to try that? The answer would be obvious if you weren't such an amazing moron. Hint: It is a simple convention that doesn't require any additional cooperation on your part, but it is reserved for the very stupidest of the stupid. Worth a nickel a dozen versus the dime a dozen.

    Why don't you take the easy way out and just designate me a foe. You've removed any doubts on my part that you are a sufficiently worthy idiot. Probably you're just another one of pudge's sock puppets.

    I'm done feeding the trolls for the moment.
    It's funny though to see how said you don't have enough time, but you sit here and argue pointlessly with me... Meh.

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  136. Re:c'mon ppl,this is really sad,please hold the jo by shanen · · Score: 1

    I only stop by /. when I'm feeling sufficiently acerbic and have a few minutes to waste.

    Used to be /. was good for humorous or sardonic moods.

    Still waiting for you to accomplish your purpose in life. I can never have too many morons who've designated me as their official foe.

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