Since you didn't read the post you're replying to here it is again.
I've been following this movie for a while now and wish them the best of luck. It's not too late to buy a copy of the movie and every purchase they make allows them to work longer on the movie.
No where did I say "Yeah! open == awesome" or anything similar? oh that's right, I didn't at all.
So tell me this. What the fuck are you talking about?
Yes, Steve Job's is a god. Everyone at Apple is totally worthless and Steve has all the vision and drive to keep them going. I already know your song and dance apple fanboy no need to repeat it over and over.
I've been following this movie for a while now and wish them the best of luck. It's not too late to buy a copy of the movie and every purchase they make allows them to work longer on the movie.
Thinking about it the author could mean that Human AI and GUI elements that are attached to mesh objects aren't included because they were specific to the later games, but then I can't really remember the features of all three games.
Nice job selectively quoting to be misleading.
Yes, of course, I did it all on purpose. What a fucking asshole..
First of all it's great that they have done this, any contribution to open source is a nice thing to have.
With that said I question their motives it seems to me like they're using this release as an excuse to not have to provide support for their old games. Also it's not even the whole game code that is open source..
AI for the infected, GUI elements, etc are all missing, but all needed to implement them is present in the engine code (in case anybody is up for the challenge).
That seems to me like a big chunk of the game is missing, no AI, no GUI.. pretty much most of the "game" part.
With that said the OALWrapper does sound interesting, I may have to look into that in more detail.
Either way thanks for the code frictional games and also for making your games work on Linux. I can't wait to see what kind of games I will be able to buy from you in the future... because no one else makes linux games:(
Speak for yourself, I've used Ubuntu for many years now and the latest LTS boots faster then the previous ones.
You are only perceiving Ubuntu to be bloated because you had to install everything by hand on Gentoo and Arch. The fact is that Ubuntu isn't marketed at people like you. It's marketed at people that want to install a system with a comprehensive set of tools that allow someone to work on a desktop with minimal fuss.
Every-time I've installed Ubuntu for work or school I see an immediate loss of performance in the range of 40% compared to my Gentoo install.
Why exactly? Both Gentoo and Ubuntu are compiled with the same cflags by default ( -O2 ) so it isn't running faster. If you mean because Ubuntu is running more stuff well there's nothing stopping you from uninstalling the stuff you don't like. Synaptic even allows you to save package configurations so you don't have to do it every time you install Ubuntu.
Surely it would be difficult to argue that in court as I have read that the way btfs works was invented by a professor and implemented by someone else before they joined Oracle.
How could they own a valid patent on something they have no hand in inventing.
I really don't understand why this is. I'm not asking for better quality, I'm just asking for the same as the h264 quality.
If my media player can play frame for frame high quality non-blury scenes why does the encoder turn out blury movies when I encode them in Theora? What's so impossible about taking the h264 frame for frame and turning out the same quality video in Theora?
Your HD camera that records in h.264 has a license, the TV you have that plays h264 has a separate license, the video you upload to the web isn't your problem unless you own the site and over 150,000 people view it in which case you're correct and need to pay for a license however I doubt that case is valid for anyone apart from video sharing websites.
I find it humorous that you respond with license FUD to my open invitation to educate me on how I can make Theora work as good as H.264. Should I interpret your response to mean it simply can not perform as well as h264?
Indeed, Linux and Ubuntu linked in the summary have had H.264 support for years. It's a no brainer for them to pay a license for their OEM distributors to be able to sleep at night. I don't really see that as a "debate" though.
With regards to codecs like Theora I've tried a couple of times to get encode HD video in it but it always comes out blurry. I've seen videos like the HD Theora video on the big buck bunny website so I know it's possible however there doesn't seem to be much information out there on the correct settings. For example how would one convert a clear h.264 HD video to Theora and have it come out with the same quality.
Many European companies pay royalties to license those patents.
You can also buy copyright from the UK Treasury with no guarantee that you own it. Doesn't mean squat and if companies want to throw their money away, let them.
Ryzom has been bought by at least two different companies that have gone bankrupt. There is nothing technically wrong with the game it's just that the MMO industry is difficult to make a profit in.
My cell phone has hardware acceleration for h264. OGG? no. VP8? no. Can the CPU do it? no. Well, h264 it is then.
Your phone doesn't need to hardware accelerate Theora video, it's a very simple codec compared to h264 which requires dedicated hardware acceleration. Also OGG is just the container format, you can put h264 inside OGG.
For someone marked +2 insightful you seem to know jack shit about anything you're talking about. Yay slashdot.
If Ubuntu has to worry about being SUED for including something then it really isn't Free Software. It's not the fault of the coders. However, the problem still remains.
Canonical doesn't have to worry about being sued for including patented code. Canonical is based on the Isle of Man and has servers in the UK. Software Patents do not effect them in the slightest.
This move is purely for OEM distributors in the US.
Open Source should have no problems coming up with better alternatives. In this case, it seems there's a problem (hint !)
In fact you're wrong. I can play H264 on my Ubuntu jaunty box just fine. This is simply about licensing the codec for OEM legal use. Ubuntu has never had problems actually playing the video for a long time.
when a better, open alternative to H.264 comes along, make the switch.
You mean like the one that has been in Ubuntu for years?
Terrible example. Collecting wifi ssids doesn't require connecting to the wifi point at all.
It's like recording people's door numbers from a distant except you only know that number is around that area.
Also it IS useful as it allows you to do geolocation in areas where you can't get gps or you want a more accurate gps coord.
Since you didn't read the post you're replying to here it is again.
No where did I say "Yeah! open == awesome" or anything similar? oh that's right, I didn't at all.
So tell me this. What the fuck are you talking about?
Yes, Steve Job's is a god. Everyone at Apple is totally worthless and Steve has all the vision and drive to keep them going. I already know your song and dance apple fanboy no need to repeat it over and over.
To quote Steve Jobs..
In other words, shut the fuck up.
I've been following this movie for a while now and wish them the best of luck. It's not too late to buy a copy of the movie and every purchase they make allows them to work longer on the movie.
Exactly what I was thinking. The guy has done fuck all and probably doesn't even know anything about his companies devices past using them.
I never criticized them for releasing the game as open source. In fact I did the opposite. I praised them.
I didn't selectively quote. It states three facts.
It won't run on their later games and the AI for infected plus GUI elements are missing.
You're failing to see the full stop at the end of the sentence.
Either way I checked the source code..
GameEnemy_Worm.h
GameEnemy_Spider.h
GameEnemy_Dog.h
No AI for the human infected.
Thinking about it the author could mean that Human AI and GUI elements that are attached to mesh objects aren't included because they were specific to the later games, but then I can't really remember the features of all three games.
Yes, of course, I did it all on purpose. What a fucking asshole..
I said the defaults were the same, not that you couldn't change them.
How are you measuring better anyway?
Speed? cflags aren't going to be much on an improvement past -O2 which is set by default in Gentoo and Ubuntu.
First of all it's great that they have done this, any contribution to open source is a nice thing to have.
With that said I question their motives it seems to me like they're using this release as an excuse to not have to provide support for their old games. Also it's not even the whole game code that is open source..
That seems to me like a big chunk of the game is missing, no AI, no GUI.. pretty much most of the "game" part.
With that said the OALWrapper does sound interesting, I may have to look into that in more detail.
Either way thanks for the code frictional games and also for making your games work on Linux. I can't wait to see what kind of games I will be able to buy from you in the future... because no one else makes linux games :(
Speak for yourself, I've used Ubuntu for many years now and the latest LTS boots faster then the previous ones.
You are only perceiving Ubuntu to be bloated because you had to install everything by hand on Gentoo and Arch. The fact is that Ubuntu isn't marketed at people like you. It's marketed at people that want to install a system with a comprehensive set of tools that allow someone to work on a desktop with minimal fuss.
Why exactly? Both Gentoo and Ubuntu are compiled with the same cflags by default ( -O2 ) so it isn't running faster. If you mean because Ubuntu is running more stuff well there's nothing stopping you from uninstalling the stuff you don't like. Synaptic even allows you to save package configurations so you don't have to do it every time you install Ubuntu.
Surely it would be difficult to argue that in court as I have read that the way btfs works was invented by a professor and implemented by someone else before they joined Oracle.
How could they own a valid patent on something they have no hand in inventing.
Exactly. Pulse audio is totally unnecessary. It adds layers upon layers of abstraction which could be taken away by adopting OSSv4 instead.
I'm sure from a users perspective, sound works better now with Pulse Audio however it's a complete mess under the hood.
I'm not from the US but knowing about some of the dumb shit that happens in Texas I doubt it applies to America as a whole.
I really don't understand why this is. I'm not asking for better quality, I'm just asking for the same as the h264 quality.
If my media player can play frame for frame high quality non-blury scenes why does the encoder turn out blury movies when I encode them in Theora? What's so impossible about taking the h264 frame for frame and turning out the same quality video in Theora?
Your HD camera that records in h.264 has a license, the TV you have that plays h264 has a separate license, the video you upload to the web isn't your problem unless you own the site and over 150,000 people view it in which case you're correct and need to pay for a license however I doubt that case is valid for anyone apart from video sharing websites.
I find it humorous that you respond with license FUD to my open invitation to educate me on how I can make Theora work as good as H.264. Should I interpret your response to mean it simply can not perform as well as h264?
Indeed, Linux and Ubuntu linked in the summary have had H.264 support for years. It's a no brainer for them to pay a license for their OEM distributors to be able to sleep at night. I don't really see that as a "debate" though.
With regards to codecs like Theora I've tried a couple of times to get encode HD video in it but it always comes out blurry. I've seen videos like the HD Theora video on the big buck bunny website so I know it's possible however there doesn't seem to be much information out there on the correct settings. For example how would one convert a clear h.264 HD video to Theora and have it come out with the same quality.
You can also buy copyright from the UK Treasury with no guarantee that you own it. Doesn't mean squat and if companies want to throw their money away, let them.
Ryzom has been bought by at least two different companies that have gone bankrupt. There is nothing technically wrong with the game it's just that the MMO industry is difficult to make a profit in.
Your phone doesn't need to hardware accelerate Theora video, it's a very simple codec compared to h264 which requires dedicated hardware acceleration. Also OGG is just the container format, you can put h264 inside OGG.
For someone marked +2 insightful you seem to know jack shit about anything you're talking about. Yay slashdot.
Sorry to burst your bubble but Ubuntu has had h.264 support for years. It's just they're now licensing the patent for OEM use.
Canonical doesn't have to worry about being sued for including patented code. Canonical is based on the Isle of Man and has servers in the UK. Software Patents do not effect them in the slightest.
This move is purely for OEM distributors in the US.
That's a pretty stupid statement. Having no market share would mean no one anywhere uses it. I use it so Ubuntu must have some market share.
Another clueless idiot.. Ubuntu has had h.264 for years. The news is that they're just licensing it for legal use by OEMs.
In fact you're wrong. I can play H264 on my Ubuntu jaunty box just fine. This is simply about licensing the codec for OEM legal use. Ubuntu has never had problems actually playing the video for a long time.
You mean like the one that has been in Ubuntu for years?
GCC is used in xcode for iPhone programming as well as many other areas.