Read my reply under this and think about it when eating salmon caught, processed and sold right here in the U.S., (Trident Seafoods, Peter Pan Seafoods, Icicle, Unisea to name a few), and exploitation hits home.
And the money probably stays within their economy. There is a similar situation in Alaska. The seafood industry hires workers for minimum wage. Those employees work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week for four months straight. The majority of these employees are from the Philippines, Ethiopia, Somalia, and the Ukraine. They are charged for room and board and airfare. The majority of the money they make goes back with them. They work through the most brutal aches and pains while ankle deep in fish guts with no heat because the money is worth it to them. They all go home for a month, most blow all their money and come back broke - year after year. In another light, a deck hand on a fishing vessel averages 0.018 cents a pound for salmon (due to different types of salmon and assuming a standard 10% share of the catch). The cannery sells it for around $3.85 a pound and they process 10,000 pounds or greater per hour. Now, how that turns into around $12.00 a pound at the grocery store is insane since transportation and frozen storage only count for a fraction of that price. It's like a big slap in the face - especially to the deck hand who takes the greatest risks and works for 18 hours a day. Anyway, that's the closest thing to a sweat shop I've seen in the U.S.. I'm interested to know more about the worst working conditions that you've seen in China - things like that don't seem to make it into the news. As for the main article, it seems like the author tried to jab China and Microsoft in a single blow. I am no fan of Microsoft either, but I am grateful for your contribution of clarity.
I'm not sure with humans, but I know that cattle get their beneficial bacteria mostly through the first milk of the mother. Then it develops from what you eat. If you eat certain things over and over, your beneficial bacteria will adapt to those things - though I do not know to what extent that adaptation goes. I took microbiology, but hopefully someone with more experience will chime in and explain it further. Something fascinating is the anaerobic digester ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_digestion ). It is basically a mechanical stomach and is used to reduce organic waste and produce methane. I heard about a leak from one of these once that had been fed with cow manure on a farm. The microbes got into the water supply and ate the scales off of fish. I'm sure that story is somewhere on the internet or in the EPA archives.
Some with weaker constitutions would flinch, but I'd give you a mod point if I had any at the moment. As an Alaska'n fisherman, let me tell you that North Pacific bull kelp will rip you up pretty good, but I mix mine with jelly fish for that extra zing! Prepare your bull kelp and brown snot looking jelly fish with vinegar and high voltage, about 30kV or so should do the trick - just enough to evaporate it within a minute. Any longer than that and it starts to get a funny after taste.. Once it has cooled, sprinkle it on smoked tuna or sockeye salmon. Wash it down with orange Jolt and Bacardi 151 - of course, you should only do this on shore at the local tavern. Feel free to experiment with other beverages suitable to your taste if you want to whimp out.
Ok, maybe I imply too much, that's a habit I have. Open source has definitely made its mark and affected the economy of software. Well, I think a good next step is to actually alter the infrastructure and overcome the so called evils of proprietary business practices. I'm saying rip it up by the roots and make it seem like a distant fading bad dream. Saying something is terribly wrong is in vain unless some extra effort is made to take it to the next level. It's standing up for what you believe in so strong and centered in your heart that it makes you overcome all obstacles to make it happen. I implied, why not learn to give and teach others the same? Enter the hardware market with that concept and all you have to show is that you are there! Let word of mouth keep flowing and watch it all change before your eyes! Let the movement eradicate the greed! I started using Linux because a friend showed me what was actually on a cd. From that moment on, I strove to find out what else had been hidden right in front of my face all along in every aspect imaginable! It woke me up and I felt right at home. I was quickly humbled by seeing all the things I had to learn if I wanted to see something work that wasn't there yet. I mean humbled! Instead of being greedy I became active and sometimes I still feel overwhelmed by all there is available and all the reading I need to do. Well, I'm still here and so are many others who have hung in there through all the bugs. I got two kids who bug me to let them use Fedora after they do their homework. They also have access to XP and a bunch of games - that are collecting dust! They hate it when a piece of hardware doesn't work, but they happily work with what they've got until they find a solution. It just makes sense to me to make a bigger move forward. Demolish the mindset of greedy rip-offs by replacing it with something that builds you up at the same time. Put it in their faces - the consumers faces.
Ya know, say what you will about Microsoft, Apple, Google etc... they are doing what businesses do and people are willing to pay or sacrifice freedom and/or privacy for what they offer. They got there because of marketing. I don't understand people who gripe about someone or something more successful or powerful than they are and/or what they support. If you're have the energy and insight to gripe, use that energy to find a solution - here's mine! Why not push for hardware manufacturers to not only provide open source drivers, but also put Tux right on the box as Linux compatible? Hell, why not build hardware specifically for Linux that can be used with other operating systems? Maybe I'm too much of a "noob" to really know what I'm talking about here, but it makes sense to me. You build it, they will come.
What about for saber toothed crotch crickets? I can see the advantages and it is a step forward, but it needs more development. That kind of research would make all other dirty jobs seem like nothing!
...... allow you to time travel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo_Man_%281984_film%29)! But the most sophisticated electronics in the Chevy Malibu were in its radio. Anyway, to stay on topic - Scientists need not to just point to cosmic radiation, they need to test this. What about pointing to the manufacturing process also!
I think that about covers it! I do have a question for you though. Why is it that when I flip all the breakers off on one side of the box, the meter spins a lot faster than when I have all of them on?
You're right. This is what I love about slashdot. I see that electronics technicians are sometimes too cocky and think they know everything. However, I always thought the two hot legs from a center tapped transformer were 180 degrees apart and therefore two separate "phases". http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_10/1.html near the bottom of the page.
Ok, I live in America so things might be different for you. My power comes from a step-down transformer. This transformer has a center-tap which is the neutral and two 110 volt lines that are 180 degrees out of phase with each other - I know this because I can compare the two phases with an oscilliscope and create lissajous figures, (which show phase differences). Anyway, you can not take two wires from the same phase and get additional voltage, you only get increased current carrying capacity. Many appliances claim to be 220 volt, but if you look inside you see that one wire powers one device and the other powers another.
I never mentioned three phase. Your house is supplied with two lines that are 180 degrees out of phase with each other and a neutral line that come from a center-tapped step down transformer- this is called two phase power. If you are only getting a single phase at your house, you probably live in a remote part of the world where power distribution lines are only a few miles long.
I'm glad you asked for clarification and I am happy to respond. While most of the loads in your house are only single phase loads, they are attached to one of two phases coming from the stepdown transformer on the power pole, or the green metal box if you live in an apartment complex. Open your breaker box and you will see that you have two 110 power buses and a neutral bus. By the way, your air conditioner draws from one phase. It is supplied by a double breaker on the same leg, so in actuality it has two 110 volt lines coming to it. One of the hot wires supplies the air conditioners compressor and the other supplies the motor which turns the fan. Anyway, if you were to pull your meter, (which I do not suggest doing - go to an electrical supply house instead), you will see that the socket for your meter doesn't tie at all into the neutral line. On either side of the neutral line are two, (four total), slots for your meter to attach to. It is not attached to the neutral leg at all - it is not reading how much power you are actually using. Therefore, the meter is only reading the two phases, comparing them - subtracting one from the other.
I talked about amps to simplify things. The ac voltage arriving at your house is pretty much a regulated constant with the exception of occasional surges, blackouts and brownouts. Every part of your household electrical system is designed to function at the voltage supplied to your house. Look inside your breaker panel, every breaker is rated in amps. The wiring in your house is rated in amps. Therefore the only thing that is a variable is how much current is drawn through the system. I assumed people would see this was obvious.
Nope, your oven is only tied to one phase. Open your breaker box and you will see that it is being supplied by a double breaker tied to only one phase. Therefore it only draws from a single phase.
I talked about amps to simplify things. The ac voltage arriving at your house is pretty much a regulated constant with the exception of occasional surges, blackouts and brownouts. Every part of your household electrical system is designed to function at the voltage supplied to your house. Look inside your breaker panel, every breaker is rated in amps. The wiring in your house is rated in amps. Therefore the only thing that is a variable is how much current is drawn through the system. I assumed people would see this was obvious. Anyway, if you don't believe me, turn on everything in your house and then go outside and notice the rate at which your meter is spinning. Go back inside and flip all the breakers off in one row, leaving the other side on. Go back out to the meter and you will notice that it is spinning a lot faster.
Look inside your power panel. You will see that your dryer circuit is actually connected by a double breaker which is on one phase. It is not 220 volts, it is two 110 volt legs drawn from a single phase. These voltages are never added to make 220 volts. If you don't believe me, unplug the dryer and follow the wiring inside.
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Sounds like economic warfare to me.
Read my reply under this and think about it when eating salmon caught, processed and sold right here in the U.S., (Trident Seafoods, Peter Pan Seafoods, Icicle, Unisea to name a few), and exploitation hits home.
And the money probably stays within their economy. There is a similar situation in Alaska. The seafood industry hires workers for minimum wage. Those employees work 16 hours a day, 7 days a week for four months straight. The majority of these employees are from the Philippines, Ethiopia, Somalia, and the Ukraine. They are charged for room and board and airfare. The majority of the money they make goes back with them. They work through the most brutal aches and pains while ankle deep in fish guts with no heat because the money is worth it to them. They all go home for a month, most blow all their money and come back broke - year after year. In another light, a deck hand on a fishing vessel averages 0.018 cents a pound for salmon (due to different types of salmon and assuming a standard 10% share of the catch). The cannery sells it for around $3.85 a pound and they process 10,000 pounds or greater per hour. Now, how that turns into around $12.00 a pound at the grocery store is insane since transportation and frozen storage only count for a fraction of that price. It's like a big slap in the face - especially to the deck hand who takes the greatest risks and works for 18 hours a day. Anyway, that's the closest thing to a sweat shop I've seen in the U.S.. I'm interested to know more about the worst working conditions that you've seen in China - things like that don't seem to make it into the news. As for the main article, it seems like the author tried to jab China and Microsoft in a single blow. I am no fan of Microsoft either, but I am grateful for your contribution of clarity.
I'll bet you could taze them for a hit - a little more ethical than bestiality (I've heard stories of what crack heads will do with dogs for a fix).
Army recruits are good for testing too!
Spun out like a research monkey!
Eventually a lot more than the countries that buy those mice who produce none of their own.
Damn, there goes my hopes for glow in the dark marshmallows!
I'm not sure with humans, but I know that cattle get their beneficial bacteria mostly through the first milk of the mother. Then it develops from what you eat. If you eat certain things over and over, your beneficial bacteria will adapt to those things - though I do not know to what extent that adaptation goes. I took microbiology, but hopefully someone with more experience will chime in and explain it further. Something fascinating is the anaerobic digester ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaerobic_digestion ). It is basically a mechanical stomach and is used to reduce organic waste and produce methane. I heard about a leak from one of these once that had been fed with cow manure on a farm. The microbes got into the water supply and ate the scales off of fish. I'm sure that story is somewhere on the internet or in the EPA archives.
Some with weaker constitutions would flinch, but I'd give you a mod point if I had any at the moment. As an Alaska'n fisherman, let me tell you that North Pacific bull kelp will rip you up pretty good, but I mix mine with jelly fish for that extra zing! Prepare your bull kelp and brown snot looking jelly fish with vinegar and high voltage, about 30kV or so should do the trick - just enough to evaporate it within a minute. Any longer than that and it starts to get a funny after taste.. Once it has cooled, sprinkle it on smoked tuna or sockeye salmon. Wash it down with orange Jolt and Bacardi 151 - of course, you should only do this on shore at the local tavern. Feel free to experiment with other beverages suitable to your taste if you want to whimp out.
Enough said.
"It has to start somewhere, it has to start sometime. What better place than here? What better time than now? - RATM.
Ok, maybe I imply too much, that's a habit I have. Open source has definitely made its mark and affected the economy of software. Well, I think a good next step is to actually alter the infrastructure and overcome the so called evils of proprietary business practices. I'm saying rip it up by the roots and make it seem like a distant fading bad dream. Saying something is terribly wrong is in vain unless some extra effort is made to take it to the next level. It's standing up for what you believe in so strong and centered in your heart that it makes you overcome all obstacles to make it happen. I implied, why not learn to give and teach others the same? Enter the hardware market with that concept and all you have to show is that you are there! Let word of mouth keep flowing and watch it all change before your eyes! Let the movement eradicate the greed! I started using Linux because a friend showed me what was actually on a cd. From that moment on, I strove to find out what else had been hidden right in front of my face all along in every aspect imaginable! It woke me up and I felt right at home. I was quickly humbled by seeing all the things I had to learn if I wanted to see something work that wasn't there yet. I mean humbled! Instead of being greedy I became active and sometimes I still feel overwhelmed by all there is available and all the reading I need to do. Well, I'm still here and so are many others who have hung in there through all the bugs. I got two kids who bug me to let them use Fedora after they do their homework. They also have access to XP and a bunch of games - that are collecting dust! They hate it when a piece of hardware doesn't work, but they happily work with what they've got until they find a solution. It just makes sense to me to make a bigger move forward. Demolish the mindset of greedy rip-offs by replacing it with something that builds you up at the same time. Put it in their faces - the consumers faces.
Ya know, say what you will about Microsoft, Apple, Google etc... they are doing what businesses do and people are willing to pay or sacrifice freedom and/or privacy for what they offer. They got there because of marketing. I don't understand people who gripe about someone or something more successful or powerful than they are and/or what they support. If you're have the energy and insight to gripe, use that energy to find a solution - here's mine! Why not push for hardware manufacturers to not only provide open source drivers, but also put Tux right on the box as Linux compatible? Hell, why not build hardware specifically for Linux that can be used with other operating systems? Maybe I'm too much of a "noob" to really know what I'm talking about here, but it makes sense to me. You build it, they will come.
What about for saber toothed crotch crickets? I can see the advantages and it is a step forward, but it needs more development. That kind of research would make all other dirty jobs seem like nothing!
I don't know about you, but that little comment just made my fUc&!^g day! Thanks!
...... allow you to time travel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo_Man_%281984_film%29)! But the most sophisticated electronics in the Chevy Malibu were in its radio. Anyway, to stay on topic - Scientists need not to just point to cosmic radiation, they need to test this. What about pointing to the manufacturing process also!
I will have a friend who is an inspector come by and check it out too. Thank you.
I think that about covers it! I do have a question for you though. Why is it that when I flip all the breakers off on one side of the box, the meter spins a lot faster than when I have all of them on?
You're right. This is what I love about slashdot. I see that electronics technicians are sometimes too cocky and think they know everything. However, I always thought the two hot legs from a center tapped transformer were 180 degrees apart and therefore two separate "phases".
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_10/1.html near the bottom of the page.
Double breakers are two single breakers designed to trip in an "and/or" logic. They are tied to the same phase.
Ok, I live in America so things might be different for you. My power comes from a step-down transformer. This transformer has a center-tap which is the neutral and two 110 volt lines that are 180 degrees out of phase with each other - I know this because I can compare the two phases with an oscilliscope and create lissajous figures, (which show phase differences). Anyway, you can not take two wires from the same phase and get additional voltage, you only get increased current carrying capacity. Many appliances claim to be 220 volt, but if you look inside you see that one wire powers one device and the other powers another.
I never mentioned three phase. Your house is supplied with two lines that are 180 degrees out of phase with each other and a neutral line that come from a center-tapped step down transformer- this is called two phase power. If you are only getting a single phase at your house, you probably live in a remote part of the world where power distribution lines are only a few miles long.
I'm glad you asked for clarification and I am happy to respond. While most of the loads in your house are only single phase loads, they are attached to one of two phases coming from the stepdown transformer on the power pole, or the green metal box if you live in an apartment complex. Open your breaker box and you will see that you have two 110 power buses and a neutral bus. By the way, your air conditioner draws from one phase. It is supplied by a double breaker on the same leg, so in actuality it has two 110 volt lines coming to it. One of the hot wires supplies the air conditioners compressor and the other supplies the motor which turns the fan. Anyway, if you were to pull your meter, (which I do not suggest doing - go to an electrical supply house instead), you will see that the socket for your meter doesn't tie at all into the neutral line. On either side of the neutral line are two, (four total), slots for your meter to attach to. It is not attached to the neutral leg at all - it is not reading how much power you are actually using. Therefore, the meter is only reading the two phases, comparing them - subtracting one from the other. I talked about amps to simplify things. The ac voltage arriving at your house is pretty much a regulated constant with the exception of occasional surges, blackouts and brownouts. Every part of your household electrical system is designed to function at the voltage supplied to your house. Look inside your breaker panel, every breaker is rated in amps. The wiring in your house is rated in amps. Therefore the only thing that is a variable is how much current is drawn through the system. I assumed people would see this was obvious.
Nope, your oven is only tied to one phase. Open your breaker box and you will see that it is being supplied by a double breaker tied to only one phase. Therefore it only draws from a single phase.
I talked about amps to simplify things. The ac voltage arriving at your house is pretty much a regulated constant with the exception of occasional surges, blackouts and brownouts. Every part of your household electrical system is designed to function at the voltage supplied to your house. Look inside your breaker panel, every breaker is rated in amps. The wiring in your house is rated in amps. Therefore the only thing that is a variable is how much current is drawn through the system. I assumed people would see this was obvious. Anyway, if you don't believe me, turn on everything in your house and then go outside and notice the rate at which your meter is spinning. Go back inside and flip all the breakers off in one row, leaving the other side on. Go back out to the meter and you will notice that it is spinning a lot faster.
Look inside your power panel. You will see that your dryer circuit is actually connected by a double breaker which is on one phase. It is not 220 volts, it is two 110 volt legs drawn from a single phase. These voltages are never added to make 220 volts. If you don't believe me, unplug the dryer and follow the wiring inside.