Right. There are exceptions for people who have a mentally handicapped child, or where both parents are from an ethnic minority, or where both parents are from single-child families. But I have never heard of an exception allowing 3 or more children that are not born together.
In other words, the only way to legally have 3 Chinese children is to have triplets (or twins if a second child has been allowed).
Clearly, the couple in this story did not have twins or triplets, and that begs the question of how they managed to avoid stiff punishments for their 2nd/3rd children.
So let me preface by stating: IANAL! I don't even pretend to be. On top of that, the wikipedia article linked seems only to summarize the laws...
17. Intentionally commits homicide
Definitely not that.
18. Intentionally inflicting injury upon another person AND if he/she causes death to the person or, by resorting to especially cruel means, causes severe injury to the person, reducing the person to utter disability
Not causing physical harm.
19. Raping a woman or has sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 14 in any of the following circumstances:
(1) the circumstances being flagrant;
(2) raping a number of women or girls under the age of 14;
(3) raping a woman before the public in a public place;
(4) raping a woman with one or more persons in succession; or
(5) causing serious injury or death to the victim or any other serious consequences.
None of these, the parents are not raping their children.
20. Unlawfully detaining another person or unlawfully deprives the personal freedom of another person by any other means AND if he causes injury, disability or death to the victim by violence.
21. Unlawfully detaining or confines another person in order to get payment of a debt does the same in (20)
22. Where a functionary of a State organ commits any of the crimes mentioned in (20).
The parents aren't detaining their children. The buyer may be though...
23. Kidnapping another person for the purpose of extorting money or property or kidnaps another person as a hostage AND Whoever kidnaps another person for the purpose of extorting money or property or kidnaps another person as a hostage.
Parents aren't really kidnapping their own child...
24. Abducting and trafficking in a woman or child AND if the circumstances are especially serious beyond the following:
Ok. Here's where it might be tricky. According to the wikipedia article you linked, abducting AND trafficking. Parents are only trafficking their own child.
(1) being a ringleader of a gang engaged in abducting and trafficking in women and children;
Systematic conception and sale of children doesn't really seem like a gang; maybe I'm wrong.
(2) abducting and trafficking in three or more women and/or children;
Again with the word abducting. Without that, I think they could get pegged on this one...
(3) raping the woman who is abducted and trafficked in;
Nope. They don't do any raping as far as the news has reported.
(4) enticing or forcing the woman who is abducted and trafficked in to engage in prostitution, or selling such woman to any other person who would force her to engage in prostitution;
Gender specific to female, and again with the word abducted.
(5) kidnapping a woman or child by means of violence, coercion or anaesthesia for the purpose of selling the victim;
Parents didn't kidnap their own children
(6) stealing a baby or an infant for the purpose of selling the victim;
Again, not stealing...
(7) causing serious injury or death to the woman or child who is abducted and trafficked in or to her or his relatives or any other serious consequences; or
Doesn't apply
(8) selling a woman or a child out of the territory of China.
This may apply, but no specifics have been given about where the children are, where they were sold to, etc...
I feel like a broken record, but none of the items in the list seem to fit very well. Sure, you can wish the firing squad on them, but that doesn't bend the law to include them for it. (This assuming that CCP doesn't dictate their execution.) Again, IANAL and I could be wrong. Unfortunately, I doubt we'll ever learn much more about this case...
Yup. Screw with North Korea and you piss off China.
But only because China doesn't want millions of horribly impoverished/starving people flooding across the China-N.Korea border after the N.Korean gov't falls. They simply don't have the infrastructure/willingness to suddenly feed and take on that many people at once.
If we irrigate all of Earth's deserts, the whole Earth is going to heat up. When the sand stops reflecting the Sun's rays back out into space, and the plants absorb the heat instead, it's going to get pretty hot. Add a bunch of water into the mix and it might get a bit more humid too... Not to mention that sea level might be a bit higher, cramping everyone closer together.
I don't know about you, but I don't want to live on that Earth. I'd rather we not bring that alien water to our planet; instead, use our own resources more effectively.
Then again, the added water could result in more clouds to reflect the Sun's rays, or the extra heat could kill off plants and return areas to desert... I never paid enough attention when reading about passive planetary temperature regulation systems.
You mean the "Bluetooth keyboards for a real computer" that will work with the iPad? Do you have any clue about Apple products?
I was writing with the presumption that you are only going to buy an Apple product, but thank you for making my point for me: There's no reason to buy the Apple-branded products, when there are much-less-expensive options with full-functionality and a level of quality that matches is or greater than that of the Apple product.
Good peripherals cost good money. They are very often worth it, too.
I never said that they didn't. I was simply stating that good money doesn't always signify good peripherals.
For the cheap cube-shaped, white plastic AC->USB converter, they wanted $30. Nothing about it was quality. The Apple store "genius" even stated that it was only rated to work with 100-120 volts and wouldn't work in countries that used a 220 volt standard. I later learned that "genius" was wrong, but have run into people whose adapter stopped working completely under both 110v and 220v.
You are delusional. I think you should think about what you said. Its one thing to allow users to fuck up their PC at home (average MS users) its another to allow idiots to walk around spewing personal data all over the meatspace. There are ways to enforce security with minimal invasion. Your OLD *Samsung* case is nothing like how Bluetooth is implemented in premium devices today. I have never entered my pair code more than once and I LIKE that a 2 year old can't hijack my Bluetooth devices with zero effort. I understand it can be hacked, but at least it can't be done by every walmart checker.
I'm sorry, I must have crossed an Apple fanboi. But okay, I'll bite. Obviously, *Samsung* doesn't have any "premium devices", and only "MS users" ever leave their wireless router unprotected.
As far as spewing personal data all over, Facebook should be a good enough example that people don't care about their personal data... They walk around posting location updates now too.
Funny thing is that I actually think it's good for Apple to support this standard that forces the standard user to think about security.
You might get more support if you don't start off your post with douchey lies having nothing to do with topic at hand.
Um. There is plenty that relates a very real perception of Apple products to a news article about Apple products. It has very much to do with the topic at hand, and is not a douchey lie.
*It's interesting how so many on/. only talked about iphone costs in terms of the cost of the phone + plans, but no one on slashdot ever mentions Apple's high resale value when doing comparing prices of other brands vs. Apple
Any positive for resale value is completely nullified by the fact that standard accessories are outrageously priced... Want a wall-charger? $30. Charge/sync cord wear out? $30. Earphones fell apart? $30. Hell, let's assume you get an iPad and want a keyboard: $70. Bluetooth keyboards for a real computer don't even cost that much.
I had an iPod Touch once, and I treated it well. I never yanked it off the charging cord and always kept my earphones well. It wasn't even like I was always using the thing very often. They both started coming apart about 6 months in. When I wanted to get an AC->USB adapter, I looked to see if Apple had an official one: $30... Needless to say, I didn't buy it. Instead, I bought a universal electrical outlet adapter (not transformer) that included USB ports for $15. That's served me a lot better and--unlike the Apple accessories that came with the iPod Touch--has not had any quality issues for years.
So tell me guys, given how much data is sitting on your iphone, android, blackberry, blueberry, and walla-walla-ding-dong phones, do you really want a transciever built into it that has no security capability at all...
The problem isn't that bluetooth has security capability. It's that it forces security.
With bluetooth, there is no way to just connect without figuring out the target device's preprogrammed pairing code (usually 0000 or 1111), or typing the same code into both devices. This acts as another step that gets in the way of Joe Schmoe doing what he wants. In the case of some phones, they ask for confirmation every time for every file/contact that's going to be transferred -- with no way to permanently authorize a paired device. (This happened on an old Samsung phone that I bought while abroad, I forget which model.)
I see it similar to WiFi security. People who are aware of the risks of wireless communication between devices will want security. The standard user just wants the software/protocol/whatever to get out of her way.
Right. So the government will share internal documents on internal servers. Aside from the buzz and the fud associated with the word "cloud", what is the news in this story?
The next post came 4 minutes later. Even if we assume that you posted at xx:26:59, and they posted at xx:30:00, that still gave you 3 full minutes to be the first poster.
Would it really take you longer than 3 minutes to post something that displayed a little more intelligence than that of a potted plant?
Did you really have nothing to say about this story? Nothing at all?
Come on, at least make a joke about the similarity of name "Vesta" to "Vista", and then continue about how the hardware requirements of it can only be described as "proto-planetary". If you're going to waste everyone's time, make it worthwhile.
trying to distance himself. ha
if he had any real balls, he would have named names and gave clear examples.
And he would've come out with this when he was still in charge. It's funny how he only has the balls to make this statement when he's on his way out already.
I love Apple because when you use Apple's products you come out as intelligent person. You aren't like a normal person who is only able to use Windows, but neither you are a nerd that uses Linux. With Apple's products you can really just go out with your iPad, sit down at the coffee shop and wait for girls to come talk to you.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm...
I've only seen Apple users stereotyped as preppy, eccentric artist types whose best hope is to get a job in graphic design. The only Apple user I know that regularly has girls approach him isn't even an Apple-user anymore. He previously used an old beige-box, pre-OSX Macintosh. That machine died so he built a PC.
And no, he isn't the only Apple user I know. The others haven't had girlfriends in quite a while...
No ti didn't. I mean is was out, but no one wanted a tablet' until the iPad. well, the VAST majority of people.
They are not really comparable. one is a device designed for a specific task, the other is a multipurpose portable computer.
I have trouble calling the iPad a computer. Can you save files on its harddrive? Not directly. Can you word process on it? Not really. Can you edit pictures on it? Not very effectively. Can you program/create things on it? Not that I've ever seen.
Can you explain to me how it's a portable computer instead of an oversized phone? When would I need an iPad that I wouldn't be able to use a netbook?
My god! The stunning arrogance of the McMansion aristocracy.
I don't know if it's arrogance or just plain ignorance. They figure that since they drink a latte every morning, everybody does... "Right? Right guys?"
Remember the/. story about how 'most people love our new website redesign'?
If I was a Netflix customer, I'd drop them. If I was a Netflix shareholder, I'd drop them -- not because of the price increase, but because of the sweeping generalizations that seem completely untrue "most people this" and "most people that". There's a serious case of out-of-touch-with-consumers there. Maybe someone who runs a marketing/consumer-research firm has a jackpot just waiting for them...
Think of it as social networking plus Pokemon. Sounds awesome to me.
Well, enjoy it man. I am part of a large section of the population of the United States of America that does not find Pokemon cute or entertaining. Sounds like hell to me.
Sounds like hell to you. Sounds like Gaia Online to me... which happens to be a special kind of hell that is filled with emo and scene kids who think MMORPG means "a web forum where people role-play that they're cool".
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Being that this is in the same orbit around the Sun as Earth and it will stay there, is this a viable location for a human colony?
First space colony would be the moon, then this asteroid, then Mars?
Right. There are exceptions for people who have a mentally handicapped child, or where both parents are from an ethnic minority, or where both parents are from single-child families. But I have never heard of an exception allowing 3 or more children that are not born together.
In other words, the only way to legally have 3 Chinese children is to have triplets (or twins if a second child has been allowed).
Clearly, the couple in this story did not have twins or triplets, and that begs the question of how they managed to avoid stiff punishments for their 2nd/3rd children.
So let me preface by stating: IANAL! I don't even pretend to be. On top of that, the wikipedia article linked seems only to summarize the laws...
17. Intentionally commits homicide
Definitely not that.
18. Intentionally inflicting injury upon another person AND if he/she causes death to the person or, by resorting to especially cruel means, causes severe injury to the person, reducing the person to utter disability
Not causing physical harm.
19. Raping a woman or has sexual intercourse with a girl under the age of 14 in any of the following circumstances:
(1) the circumstances being flagrant;
(2) raping a number of women or girls under the age of 14;
(3) raping a woman before the public in a public place;
(4) raping a woman with one or more persons in succession; or
(5) causing serious injury or death to the victim or any other serious consequences.
None of these, the parents are not raping their children.
20. Unlawfully detaining another person or unlawfully deprives the personal freedom of another person by any other means AND if he causes injury, disability or death to the victim by violence.
21. Unlawfully detaining or confines another person in order to get payment of a debt does the same in (20)
22. Where a functionary of a State organ commits any of the crimes mentioned in (20).
The parents aren't detaining their children. The buyer may be though...
23. Kidnapping another person for the purpose of extorting money or property or kidnaps another person as a hostage AND Whoever kidnaps another person for the purpose of extorting money or property or kidnaps another person as a hostage.
Parents aren't really kidnapping their own child...
24. Abducting and trafficking in a woman or child AND if the circumstances are especially serious beyond the following:
Ok. Here's where it might be tricky. According to the wikipedia article you linked, abducting AND trafficking. Parents are only trafficking their own child.
(1) being a ringleader of a gang engaged in abducting and trafficking in women and children;
Systematic conception and sale of children doesn't really seem like a gang; maybe I'm wrong.
(2) abducting and trafficking in three or more women and/or children;
Again with the word abducting. Without that, I think they could get pegged on this one...
(3) raping the woman who is abducted and trafficked in;
Nope. They don't do any raping as far as the news has reported.
(4) enticing or forcing the woman who is abducted and trafficked in to engage in prostitution, or selling such woman to any other person who would force her to engage in prostitution;
Gender specific to female, and again with the word abducted.
(5) kidnapping a woman or child by means of violence, coercion or anaesthesia for the purpose of selling the victim;
Parents didn't kidnap their own children
(6) stealing a baby or an infant for the purpose of selling the victim;
Again, not stealing...
(7) causing serious injury or death to the woman or child who is abducted and trafficked in or to her or his relatives or any other serious consequences; or
Doesn't apply
(8) selling a woman or a child out of the territory of China.
This may apply, but no specifics have been given about where the children are, where they were sold to, etc...
I feel like a broken record, but none of the items in the list seem to fit very well. Sure, you can wish the firing squad on them, but that doesn't bend the law to include them for it. (This assuming that CCP doesn't dictate their execution.) Again, IANAL and I could be wrong. Unfortunately, I doubt we'll ever learn much more about this case...
Yup. Screw with North Korea and you piss off China.
But only because China doesn't want millions of horribly impoverished/starving people flooding across the China-N.Korea border after the N.Korean gov't falls. They simply don't have the infrastructure/willingness to suddenly feed and take on that many people at once.
If we irrigate all of Earth's deserts, the whole Earth is going to heat up. When the sand stops reflecting the Sun's rays back out into space, and the plants absorb the heat instead, it's going to get pretty hot. Add a bunch of water into the mix and it might get a bit more humid too... Not to mention that sea level might be a bit higher, cramping everyone closer together.
I don't know about you, but I don't want to live on that Earth. I'd rather we not bring that alien water to our planet; instead, use our own resources more effectively.
Then again, the added water could result in more clouds to reflect the Sun's rays, or the extra heat could kill off plants and return areas to desert... I never paid enough attention when reading about passive planetary temperature regulation systems.
You mean the "Bluetooth keyboards for a real computer" that will work with the iPad? Do you have any clue about Apple products?
I was writing with the presumption that you are only going to buy an Apple product, but thank you for making my point for me: There's no reason to buy the Apple-branded products, when there are much-less-expensive options with full-functionality and a level of quality that matches is or greater than that of the Apple product.
Good peripherals cost good money. They are very often worth it, too.
I never said that they didn't. I was simply stating that good money doesn't always signify good peripherals.
For the cheap cube-shaped, white plastic AC->USB converter, they wanted $30. Nothing about it was quality. The Apple store "genius" even stated that it was only rated to work with 100-120 volts and wouldn't work in countries that used a 220 volt standard. I later learned that "genius" was wrong, but have run into people whose adapter stopped working completely under both 110v and 220v.
You are delusional. I think you should think about what you said. Its one thing to allow users to fuck up their PC at home (average MS users) its another to allow idiots to walk around spewing personal data all over the meatspace. There are ways to enforce security with minimal invasion. Your OLD *Samsung* case is nothing like how Bluetooth is implemented in premium devices today. I have never entered my pair code more than once and I LIKE that a 2 year old can't hijack my Bluetooth devices with zero effort. I understand it can be hacked, but at least it can't be done by every walmart checker.
I'm sorry, I must have crossed an Apple fanboi. But okay, I'll bite. Obviously, *Samsung* doesn't have any "premium devices", and only "MS users" ever leave their wireless router unprotected.
As far as spewing personal data all over, Facebook should be a good enough example that people don't care about their personal data... They walk around posting location updates now too.
Funny thing is that I actually think it's good for Apple to support this standard that forces the standard user to think about security.
You might get more support if you don't start off your post with douchey lies having nothing to do with topic at hand.
Um. There is plenty that relates a very real perception of Apple products to a news article about Apple products. It has very much to do with the topic at hand, and is not a douchey lie.
*It's interesting how so many on /. only talked about iphone costs in terms of the cost of the phone + plans, but no one on slashdot ever mentions Apple's high resale value when doing comparing prices of other brands vs. Apple
Any positive for resale value is completely nullified by the fact that standard accessories are outrageously priced... Want a wall-charger? $30. Charge/sync cord wear out? $30. Earphones fell apart? $30. Hell, let's assume you get an iPad and want a keyboard: $70. Bluetooth keyboards for a real computer don't even cost that much.
I had an iPod Touch once, and I treated it well. I never yanked it off the charging cord and always kept my earphones well. It wasn't even like I was always using the thing very often. They both started coming apart about 6 months in. When I wanted to get an AC->USB adapter, I looked to see if Apple had an official one: $30... Needless to say, I didn't buy it. Instead, I bought a universal electrical outlet adapter (not transformer) that included USB ports for $15. That's served me a lot better and--unlike the Apple accessories that came with the iPod Touch--has not had any quality issues for years.
So tell me guys, given how much data is sitting on your iphone, android, blackberry, blueberry, and walla-walla-ding-dong phones, do you really want a transciever built into it that has no security capability at all...
The problem isn't that bluetooth has security capability. It's that it forces security.
With bluetooth, there is no way to just connect without figuring out the target device's preprogrammed pairing code (usually 0000 or 1111), or typing the same code into both devices. This acts as another step that gets in the way of Joe Schmoe doing what he wants. In the case of some phones, they ask for confirmation every time for every file/contact that's going to be transferred -- with no way to permanently authorize a paired device. (This happened on an old Samsung phone that I bought while abroad, I forget which model.)
I see it similar to WiFi security. People who are aware of the risks of wireless communication between devices will want security. The standard user just wants the software/protocol/whatever to get out of her way.
Enterprise has never been (and I'll argue, shouldn't be) a focus of ours
I wonder if that guy is still the community coordinator for marketing...
Right. So the government will share internal documents on internal servers. Aside from the buzz and the fud associated with the word "cloud", what is the news in this story?
Huddle got a gov't contract? Good for them.
Thank you. If I saw your post before I dropped a comment on a previous thread, I would've mod'ed up.
No, all capital letters is appropriate: His name is a constant.
The next post came 4 minutes later. Even if we assume that you posted at xx:26:59, and they posted at xx:30:00, that still gave you 3 full minutes to be the first poster.
Would it really take you longer than 3 minutes to post something that displayed a little more intelligence than that of a potted plant?
yay!
Did you really have nothing to say about this story? Nothing at all?
Come on, at least make a joke about the similarity of name "Vesta" to "Vista", and then continue about how the hardware requirements of it can only be described as "proto-planetary". If you're going to waste everyone's time, make it worthwhile.
So it's a surefire way to find lots of show tunes and gay porn.
No, no. You've got it wrong. This will contain things that Apple-users delete.
(which in fact were inspiration for the 5 ¼ floppy disk's size)
Napkins were probably also the inspiration for agile programming's "user-stories on index cards"...
trying to distance himself. ha if he had any real balls, he would have named names and gave clear examples.
And he would've come out with this when he was still in charge. It's funny how he only has the balls to make this statement when he's on his way out already.
I love Apple because when you use Apple's products you come out as intelligent person. You aren't like a normal person who is only able to use Windows, but neither you are a nerd that uses Linux. With Apple's products you can really just go out with your iPad, sit down at the coffee shop and wait for girls to come talk to you.
I can't tell if this is sarcasm...
I've only seen Apple users stereotyped as preppy, eccentric artist types whose best hope is to get a job in graphic design. The only Apple user I know that regularly has girls approach him isn't even an Apple-user anymore. He previously used an old beige-box, pre-OSX Macintosh. That machine died so he built a PC.
And no, he isn't the only Apple user I know. The others haven't had girlfriends in quite a while...
That's just like saying:
Politicians aren't lying; they're legislating. There's a difference. /sarcasm
cheaper then the iPad to get all those people who want tables but the iPad is out of their price range.
I may be dense, but why would anyone want an iPad for a table?
Okay. It was a cheap shot. I'm sorry.
No ti didn't. I mean is was out, but no one wanted a tablet' until the iPad. well, the VAST majority of people.
They are not really comparable. one is a device designed for a specific task, the other is a multipurpose portable computer.
I have trouble calling the iPad a computer. Can you save files on its harddrive? Not directly. Can you word process on it? Not really. Can you edit pictures on it? Not very effectively. Can you program/create things on it? Not that I've ever seen.
Can you explain to me how it's a portable computer instead of an oversized phone? When would I need an iPad that I wouldn't be able to use a netbook?
My god! The stunning arrogance of the McMansion aristocracy.
I don't know if it's arrogance or just plain ignorance. They figure that since they drink a latte every morning, everybody does... "Right? Right guys?"
Remember the /. story about how 'most people love our new website redesign'?
If I was a Netflix customer, I'd drop them. If I was a Netflix shareholder, I'd drop them -- not because of the price increase, but because of the sweeping generalizations that seem completely untrue "most people this" and "most people that". There's a serious case of out-of-touch-with-consumers there. Maybe someone who runs a marketing/consumer-research firm has a jackpot just waiting for them...
Think of it as social networking plus Pokemon. Sounds awesome to me.
Well, enjoy it man. I am part of a large section of the population of the United States of America that does not find Pokemon cute or entertaining. Sounds like hell to me.
Sounds like hell to you. Sounds like Gaia Online to me... which happens to be a special kind of hell that is filled with emo and scene kids who think MMORPG means "a web forum where people role-play that they're cool".