Well, I work for Oracle. And I seriously wish that what you suggest here would be true, although from what I know, it is not. Our 'Tools' division is glad to be able to compete in the market and we now *start* to get customers turning away from companies like Siebel, Peoplesoft, SAP, IBM and others to come for applications to us. Apparently not because we are the same who is running their database, but because quality of these applications got on competitive level.
I have to assure you, that if even half of the companies that run our database would come for the applications as well, our revenue would certainly at least double. Which might result in some fat bonuses *lick* So yes, I would like to live in world how you describe it:)
And to your last claim, yes Oracle might profit on the initiative, the company is by law obliged to make actions which profit their shareholders, but I think there is another thing behind it. I have seen how L. Ellison talks about the idea and I can almost smell the fear of his family and possession behind it. Hi is outraged, scared and he knows that he could make a difference. So he tries, what he can from his position.
You have no freakin' idea what are you talking about. Databases are not MS Office. Oracle is at the same level with all other application developers since all the API are completely open. They have to be, otherwise the database would not sell. *sigh* As if you wouldn't know that 90% of all database appliacations deployed are custom made by in-house development teams. Try to deny API for your database and you are dead in the business.
Did you ever hear about fake credit card lately? Its so hard faking them nobody does. And why? Because its about freakin' money. But when it comes to lives, nobody cares. Why businesses have better secured their IDs than government? Maybe because government issues so damn lots of IDs. Having one, they should maybe put a little bit more effort into making it secure.No?
So you get credit cards without asking right? I came in the country legally on H1b visa, it took them 6 months to screen me, I had never any problems, never paid a bill late in my country and it took my freakin' six months to get my first credit card. I wish they would be tossing some my way too.
What I want to say, credit card companies do hella better job than your government at making sure you are not a risk for them. Once they consider you ok, they will throw all their offers on you, ofc, but not a day sooner. And try to go bancrupt, you won't have even chance to get cell phone for 7 years.
And I don't judge ideas of people by what they do. One would say that you are all into goverment not saying a word into what you do, but you'd like them to say a hella lot into what others do...
The ID card would be state issued. But the call was for a central database that would poll informations from all the zillions of federal and state databases. At least with regard to security risk persons. As the credit risk has its own credit databases that poll information from all the lenders of money all over country. The ID would merely serve as a key identifier for such database.
Pulling off 3 year old article that even does not say anything special is helping to your cause exactly HOW?
You should maybe try to find the recent speach or article published by Larry Ellison on the topic. Oracle does not plan to take away any of your liberties or profit on a national tragedy.
Larry Ellison pointed out that all the information is already in some databases, but while businesses like VISA, AMEX and others poll their databases and link these data together, federal agencies do NOT. If they did, 6 of these 19 terrorists would have been CAUGHT at entry and the attack would likely NEVER happen since they were sought for in some counties in US. How can someone get into the country without notice by INS when he is on 'Wanted' list on Florida?
The other point I've heard was that (as I've heard) Oracle planed to donate database software for the purpose of creating the global ID.
And last, but not least, the plan for global ID proposed by Larry Ellison should have been on voluntary basis to make things for you convenient and avoid these long and thorough checks of identity that will definitely appear on different wanna-be-secure locations like airports.
Get your facts straight, please, before starting to slander someone's ideas.
Its no wonder that XP is performance-wise worse than anything before. Performance in today's world largely deppends on memory and thus OS who does not clutter the memory too much is usually faster in result. But..
Now that MS has monopoly, they just "improve" their OS by adding all this fancy stuff and trying to hold the monopoly. Once they will lose it, there will be plenty of space (that they help to create now, but crippling their products) to improve their performance.
Well, if there are 3 different versions each with different copy preventing mechanism, then the CD is only as much protected as the weakest of them, no? Couldn't they just use 3 different albums so they would see on the speed/quality of mp3 appearing on net which is better?
Does anyone else remember how new windows with binary files turn automatically in download of the file? You don't even have to start the download yourself. Just browse on some site...
And as always its turned ON by default! This is what makes Microsoft products so terribly insecure. The default settings they are using with all security turned off.
I am sorry, but in market that is dominated with predatory monopoly which is continuously breaking laws is not even close to free. In such market all the other companies need all the help, support and good will they can get.
Its pretty easy. Your are not allowed to reverse engineer the format by the EULA on MS Office license. You can try to do it from the documents since you do not sign any license for these, but then you don't get the whole format. You get just some features used in every document. And its binary and intentionally obfuscated format so its even way harder. I was doing some format conversions earlier and even with DOCUMENTED formats its extremly hard task.
Well, let me set this straight. I think that this step is basicly denying the reason for existence of standards body.
Standards by their essence are supposed to unify means of doing the same things so people could cooperate
When you take a step that will lead to creation of another standard for the same thing (GIF/PNG case?) or to deny the use of the standard to anybodywilling to cooperate, you are denying the two very reasons for creating a standard. This step of W3C makes no sense except as a means of self-destruction.
In my country he would most likely get away with what he did, with the computer. Maybe with a monetary punishment, but there is a law about 'spreading alarming news' which I believe he did by trying to present the story in different way to the community and this is a crime that could be charged with several years in prison.
Doesn't Apache have like 2 times the market share than IIS? What do they babble about being too popular? I guess that the lack of viruses on Apache web servers might have something to do with the lack of visual basic module, maybe?
Just kidding, but tell me one thing. I don't really care WHY the platform has more viruses, if its because its insecure or just more popular. There is clear account of HAVING more viruses and thus BEING more insecure and thus HAVING bigger
TCO. In other words, reasons enough for replacing
this unreliable service.
Oh yes, it looks like some software engineer at RedHat tried to pretend working for few weeks and that tried to cover his lazyness by the easiest way, stealing. 'nuff said.
With XP out you won't get Win98 even by accident now. Even now it was hard to get as OEM Win98. But now? And no, ME.2k or XP are NOT good enough since they don't run even some of the M$'s own games, not even talking about the other ISV. I was trying to get a decent notebook with W98 preinstalled, no chance whatsoever.
I will make it clear for Hollywood. I rented 4 DVDs a week as long as I lived with my roommate who has DVD player. And I would buy about one a week also when I would have it myself. Now I moved, I don't have TV or DVD player, but I have my computer with DVD drive. I would most likely continue in my habit, if I could play the DVDs without hassle. I cannot so.. this means that for last 2 months I didn't rent single one and I didn't buy any. Maybe its unrelated, but I was not in the movie theatre either and I use to get every other week.
So as I am concerned they are losing money. 'nuff said.
Who the fsck shall we vote for when laws like DMCA UCITA, SSSCA get bipartisan support? One year you vote for democrat and then they pass one of these laws, then you vote for republicans and they pass the other, so what is the point?
How can we vote for a paty that is dedicated to keep the constitutional rights of citizens and does not sell itself to business when there is NO SUCH PARTY?
The whole idea of lobbying and buying laws is just sick and should be outlawed.
As the war on drugs and various other zero tolerance policies and similar idiocracies proved, the true enemy of the government are within. The citizens are the ones that are a target of every government in the world, be it the eastern or western block or the 3rd world countries or the middle east countries. Its same all over.
Even the terrorists get more respect and care from the government than their own citizens. Recent support of US for Chechna conflict that was supported by the same Osama bin Laden who is said to be behind the recent attacks and the same one who was trained by CIA for a terroristic actions against superpower (at the time Russia invading Afghanistan).
These terroristic attacks are merely an excuse of the government to leverage more laws in the war on its own citizens. Before you will think about oppresion, just think about the number of people who sit in the jail for completely harmless crimes. If smoking pot is so dangerous, why the tabaco smokers (much worse drug) are not serving even longer terms? I bet they would, if half of the legislators would not be heavy smokers of tabaco themselves.
The government will not prevent terrorists from having strong cryptography, but thats not the goal, they can always bomb them afterwards in the worst case. And these attacks help them get through more anti-citizen laws. (DMCA, SSSCA, anyone?) Its the citizens that need to be watched at every steps and no warrant wiretapping and backdoor in avg. Joe's crypto is exactly what every police state needs.
The internet is actually showing in last years how much is government trying to be in control and that there are not many differences between how US and Russia govt. operate after all. They need to do something about it FAST. Expect more soon. I can see the zero tolerance policy against any use of cryptography in near future.
If you have anything to hide, you are criminal!
If I did understand it right, then 70% of the TCO was always the support personal cost. So if there is no need for support personal for IFL, its clear
that it rocks. The thing that I didn't read in the article is WHY it does not need to support.
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And then we should have a secure code... you managed to introduce a buffer overflow vulnerabilty in *SIX* lines of code! COngratulations!
I have to assure you, that if even half of the companies that run our database would come for the applications as well, our revenue would certainly at least double. Which might result in some fat bonuses *lick* So yes, I would like to live in world how you describe it :)
And to your last claim, yes Oracle might profit on the initiative, the company is by law obliged to make actions which profit their shareholders, but I think there is another thing behind it. I have seen how L. Ellison talks about the idea and I can almost smell the fear of his family and possession behind it. Hi is outraged, scared and he knows that he could make a difference. So he tries, what he can from his position.
You have no freakin' idea what are you talking about. Databases are not MS Office. Oracle is at the same level with all other application developers since all the API are completely open. They have to be, otherwise the database would not sell. *sigh* As if you wouldn't know that 90% of all database appliacations deployed are custom made by in-house development teams. Try to deny API for your database and you are dead in the business.
Did you ever hear about fake credit card lately? Its so hard faking them nobody does. And why? Because its about freakin' money. But when it comes to lives, nobody cares. Why businesses have better secured their IDs than government? Maybe because government issues so damn lots of IDs. Having one, they should maybe put a little bit more effort into making it secure.No?
What I want to say, credit card companies do hella better job than your government at making sure you are not a risk for them. Once they consider you ok, they will throw all their offers on you, ofc, but not a day sooner. And try to go bancrupt, you won't have even chance to get cell phone for 7 years.
And I don't judge ideas of people by what they do. One would say that you are all into goverment not saying a word into what you do, but you'd like them to say a hella lot into what others do...
The ID card would be state issued. But the call was for a central database that would poll informations from all the zillions of federal and state databases. At least with regard to security risk persons. As the credit risk has its own credit databases that poll information from all the lenders of money all over country. The ID would merely serve as a key identifier for such database.
Pulling off 3 year old article that even does not say anything special is helping to your cause exactly HOW?
Larry Ellison pointed out that all the information is already in some databases, but while businesses like VISA, AMEX and others poll their databases and link these data together, federal agencies do NOT. If they did, 6 of these 19 terrorists would have been CAUGHT at entry and the attack would likely NEVER happen since they were sought for in some counties in US. How can someone get into the country without notice by INS when he is on 'Wanted' list on Florida?
The other point I've heard was that (as I've heard) Oracle planed to donate database software for the purpose of creating the global ID.
And last, but not least, the plan for global ID proposed by Larry Ellison should have been on voluntary basis to make things for you convenient and avoid these long and thorough checks of identity that will definitely appear on different wanna-be-secure locations like airports.
Get your facts straight, please, before starting to slander someone's ideas.
Now that MS has monopoly, they just "improve" their OS by adding all this fancy stuff and trying to hold the monopoly. Once they will lose it, there will be plenty of space (that they help to create now, but crippling their products) to improve their performance.
Well, if there are 3 different versions each with different copy preventing mechanism, then the CD is only as much protected as the weakest of them, no? Couldn't they just use 3 different albums so they would see on the speed/quality of mp3 appearing on net which is better?
Does anyone else remember how new windows with binary files turn automatically in download of the file? You don't even have to start the download yourself. Just browse on some site...
And as always its turned ON by default! This is what makes Microsoft products so terribly insecure. The default settings they are using with all security turned off.
I am sorry, but in market that is dominated with predatory monopoly which is continuously breaking laws is not even close to free. In such market all the other companies need all the help, support and good will they can get.
Its pretty easy. Your are not allowed to reverse engineer the format by the EULA on MS Office license. You can try to do it from the documents since you do not sign any license for these, but then you don't get the whole format. You get just some features used in every document. And its binary and intentionally obfuscated format so its even way harder. I was doing some format conversions earlier and even with DOCUMENTED formats its extremly hard task.
Standards by their essence are supposed to unify means of doing the same things so people could cooperate
When you take a step that will lead to creation of another standard for the same thing (GIF/PNG case?) or to deny the use of the standard to anybodywilling to cooperate, you are denying the two very reasons for creating a standard. This step of W3C makes no sense except as a means of self-destruction.
In my country he would most likely get away with what he did, with the computer. Maybe with a monetary punishment, but there is a law about 'spreading alarming news' which I believe he did by trying to present the story in different way to the community and this is a crime that could be charged with several years in prison.
Just kidding, but tell me one thing. I don't really care WHY the platform has more viruses, if its because its insecure or just more popular. There is clear account of HAVING more viruses and thus BEING more insecure and thus HAVING bigger
TCO. In other words, reasons enough for replacing
this unreliable service.
Oh yes, it looks like some software engineer at RedHat tried to pretend working for few weeks and that tried to cover his lazyness by the easiest way, stealing. 'nuff said.
We do not harbor terrorists!
Am I dreaming or is this country really THE America?
With XP out you won't get Win98 even by accident now. Even now it was hard to get as OEM Win98. But now? And no, ME.2k or XP are NOT good enough since they don't run even some of the M$'s own games, not even talking about the other ISV. I was trying to get a decent notebook with W98 preinstalled, no chance whatsoever.
Wake up, America, the world is laughing at you.
So as I am concerned they are losing money. 'nuff said.
How can we vote for a paty that is dedicated to keep the constitutional rights of citizens and does not sell itself to business when there is NO SUCH PARTY?
The whole idea of lobbying and buying laws is just sick and should be outlawed.
As the war on drugs and various other zero tolerance policies and similar idiocracies proved, the true enemy of the government are within. The citizens are the ones that are a target of every government in the world, be it the eastern or western block or the 3rd world countries or the middle east countries. Its same all over.
Even the terrorists get more respect and care from the government than their own citizens. Recent support of US for Chechna conflict that was supported by the same Osama bin Laden who is said to be behind the recent attacks and the same one who was trained by CIA for a terroristic actions against superpower (at the time Russia invading Afghanistan).
These terroristic attacks are merely an excuse of the government to leverage more laws in the war on its own citizens. Before you will think about oppresion, just think about the number of people who sit in the jail for completely harmless crimes. If smoking pot is so dangerous, why the tabaco smokers (much worse drug) are not serving even longer terms? I bet they would, if half of the legislators would not be heavy smokers of tabaco themselves.
The government will not prevent terrorists from having strong cryptography, but thats not the goal, they can always bomb them afterwards in the worst case. And these attacks help them get through more anti-citizen laws. (DMCA, SSSCA, anyone?) Its the citizens that need to be watched at every steps and no warrant wiretapping and backdoor in avg. Joe's crypto is exactly what every police state needs.
The internet is actually showing in last years how much is government trying to be in control and that there are not many differences between how US and Russia govt. operate after all. They need to do something about it FAST. Expect more soon. I can see the zero tolerance policy against any use of cryptography in near future.
If you have anything to hide, you are criminal!
Enjoy!
Hey, I steel your wallet and donate half of it for AIDS medication for Africa. Does it make me better person? Or am I still the same bloody thief?
If I did understand it right, then 70% of the TCO was always the support personal cost. So if there is no need for support personal for IFL, its clear
that it rocks. The thing that I didn't read in the article is WHY it does not need to support.