I have to admit I've seen xeyes and Koules perform much better than even the most simple GTK apps over remote connections. It seems athena and other basic toolkits do better than these newfangled ones;)
The GTK apps also seem to benefit the least from X compression schemes I've tried. Well the ones that aren't screen-shot deltas like VNC and NX. Actually I'm only partly sure that NX uses delta compression but it performed great.
I'm glad to hear that E is designed from the ground up with remote connections in mind. I still remember the visually stunning themes back in the day. (My favorite being the default plastic looking one that looked like a light was shining on applications and buttons that were active). Though I like GTK, I've found remote connections to be its greatest weakness in my daily routine. I never did try E over remote connection back then.
By the way, since I'm busy and lazy (go figure) does anyone know if FreeNX does not require a seperate login database like NX does?
In Texas I was aquainted with many boiler-makers who had breathing problems from all the asbestos dust. Also there were plants making a powder called "carbon black" that was even finer than soot that was harmful if breathed. I agree, dust can be very harmful.
But I must confess that my reason for writing was that I noticed your question about my stance ona particular issue to me a while back in a Journal that is now archived. I think it deserves a response. The best thing I can do here is point you to my journal where the debate happens frequently.
A good progression might be, First, Second, Third, Fourth. Though there are many other notable articles.
And Sees has "a few bits of chocolate". Nothing has ever come to the stunning visual excess that E had in its hayday (before Redhat made them all put on shirts and ties).
Emphasis on "choose wisely", but I couldn't agree with you more.
Lets face it, diversity is great. It is great in ecological systems, art, engineering, you name it. Having someone in the house so different that I have to learn to get along with (or I'm very miserable) has helped me achieve a lot of balance I wouldn't have had otherwise.
I've got to say though, there is a sort of Mickey Thomson sense of fun and accomplishment on these roads to madness. Like taking a trophy truck across dusty unpredictable roads with many obstacles.
And don't get me wrong Windows is it's own road to madness. But it is for the most part large boring paved highway with no exits (just offramps that say "no exit"), and you are travelling in a very large Buick that seems to only go straight ahead. And while the road seems solid enough the bridges are rickety at every upgrade and fellow drivers seem to pull over randomly to restart their cars all the time.
Given, most of the rest are rxvt spiced up, with eye candy thrown in.
I've found new life and freedom outside of Gnome and KDE lately. So I have to add that the one that stands above the rest for me is Multi-Aterm. Aterm is pretty good on its own and I used Fluxbox to trick it to do tabs. But then I found multi-aterm and never looked back.
I wish the LWN author had found it, they would have found it has the "right click scroll up, left click scroll down, middle click slide-scrolling" they complainied that gnome and kde variants do not.
The card is called an ATM card, its rather convenient. I know that I'm the only one with access to my account, and when its stolen I can have it canceled immediately and a new one mailed.
The pieces of paper that I can hand sign authorizing each transaction are called `checks' (cheques by some). They even come with a number of security features to make sure that they cannot be copied or altered from what I write on them. Pretty neat stuff.
Some people can combine the security of a card in their personal posession with a required signature for each transaction in what we call a "Credit Card". I use it for all of my online purchasing. Many online transactions will require a particular number that is only found on the card itself which is also mailed to me by the bank.
Being a bored lay-man today I'll ask. So Dark energy is some quantum force that has a greater range than gravity, and pushes things away from each other?
Honestly the universe haveing an expansion rate is pretty wierd, even if (especially if) it does loop around at some point.
Hmmm, here in the US I need a digital password that I supply and a physical card with a piece of authorization mailed from the bank for each transaction. Many places require authorization with a physical signature if you don't use the card, and use one of their pre-supplied (mailed to me by the bank) slips of paper with their routing information on it.
Highlighting having the side-effect of copying is just unintuitive and often the wrong behavior.
Is it? You know all to often I hear an authoritative "wrong behaviour" for GUI's which really just interprets to mean "its not what I'm used to". That may or may not be the case, however, with your usage. All I can say is that I do expect that highlighting something means I want to do something to it. That it gets stored in a clipboard momentarily does not get in the way of that.
While I do often highlight something with the middle button, switch to another application and it doesn't paste is frustrating. Firefox will for everything but what is pasted in the URL's tab for me. I'm not sure why that is honestly, or why it needs to be that way. That is what I'd label as inconsistent GUI behaviour within an application.
Perhaps seeing it as something more present than a clipboard is how I see it. Heres what I mean.
Where I get in the most trouble is that I figure that the bringing a window to the forground should put its selected text (if viewable) in the clipboard. For instance, I select item A in app A, then go to app B and highlight something there. I past in App C and since app B was the most recent foreground app onthe desktop I expect it to be pasted there. Sure enough as advertised.
But then I focus on App A that also has highlighted text, then refocus on App C and paste. Since I see the highlight as something present (not stored on a clipboard) I expect it to be pasted. Not so however.
Anyway, thats probably why copying what is highlighted is not unintuitive to me, however its behaviour might still be.
I have seen the same thing. All I can say is that there seems to be two clipboards.
To fix this, I've gotten in the habit of right clicking on URL's and saying "Open in New [Tab | Window]" or "Copy [Link | Image] Location". Its like trying to thread a needle sometimes picking up a URL (or other text) by highlight. I don't run Gnome or KDE so I can't drag and drop links (I wonder if ol' DnD can do it too).
Tell me becuase I honestly don't know. How much CPU is needed for your audio needs? The reason I'm asking is it seems that a driveless computer with a low-power chip (which Linux runs on a lot) would be great for the application. The problem being that they cost as much as the very top end Intel systems, much of which due to lack of demand (economies of scale and whatnot).
A while back one could get a StrongArm in a 1U rack, but not any more. Oh well, I suppose I'm just hoping that some kind of market will precipitate such a product so that I can have one. I'd run my whole home network (save the gaming PC) on them if I could.
I've done just such an assesment as you suggest. But I was brought back to reality by some old guy that reminded me that if I did the same with Bottled water I'd not come close to the price of the stuff coming out of my faucet at home.
Not that you are wrong mind you, but take this as a warning about finding out market price from the super-market.
I've thought of that. Another Jury member told me they were worried I might be grounds for a mis-trial. Personally I think they simply syphen off all the alphas that might disagree with them, in this case for the reason you specified. Lawyers, cops and judges are often the absolute first to be removed:)
And although I can see the right reasons behind what they do, I'm first to admit Lawyers are very, very good at doing all the wrong things for the professed right reasons.
By the way Morosoph, thanks for your participation in that survey. Unfortunately I can't keep everyone playing nice even when I want to. You've always been a true gentleman to deal with.
I just recently served on a Jury, and I assure you that it was evident with the questions they asked me and the other perspective jurors that the ability to look at the evidence and facts (the Court's best approximation of truth) was formost on their minds. Prejudices were seen as something that hampers that ability.
For instance this case involved someone getting a gun out and shooting his ex-girlfriend becuase she had an abortion. I was the first to be excused, even though my closest ties to the anti-abortion movement is affiliation with a unwanted pregnancy help organization that advocates adoption instead of abortion. I do not affiliate with any organizatio that bombs abortion clinics, or even lobbies to make abortion illegal.
And for reasons I do not know the prosecution (the one who I would figure was looking for people who did not like abortion) set me free before anyone else.
So in short, I do not know that the dilemma you pose between balance of prejudices as being an imprecise (or even counter-productive) to commitment to truth really exists.
Looking at history there isn't much you can do but blame *some* of the latest country definitions on the west.
This is like the anti-appeal to authority, where the connundrum of what makes a country is so elusive that anyone that assumes the authority of doing it is victimizing its citizenry.
Palestine was under Ottoman rule for centuries, just like Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Tunisia, Algeria, and others, and under various Muslim rule before that.
Your conflating a region and a country. Since the Palestinians want their due country (and so do the Israeli's) its very relevant to ask when they had a country before. The conflation can only go so far, i.e. I'm not sure that Tibetans are asking for a "Himilayan" nation, or even an "Asian" nation.
There are Philistines mentioned in your bible, as well as Cannanites, Amalekites, Jebusites and others.
This comes at another angle to show you are conflating a region with a nation, as for all the times I check I do not see "Palestinians" in that list. However they are assumed to be Palestinians post-hoc becuase people now call that region Palestine.
You want to freeze history at just one point in time,
I don't see SuperYooser advocating looking at the region as just one moment in time. I wouldn't take his reference to that time so narrowly as to anticipate that he rests entirely on that time. I actually abhore such recasting of another persons debate. Your worst is as follows...
and after then were taken into the Babylonian exile, and after the Romans destroyed the temple in 70 C.E.
And after that the UN established Israel, but you seem to be the one focusing on a moment in the past more than SuperYooser.
For all you wish to dismiss as irrelevant (you use that word four times and often as the sum total of the arguement you make on a particular point), I'd assume you are really asking people to turn myopic. I for one take the circumspect approach, and trust more the people that enable me to do so.
Why can't the Jews call themselves Palestinian? After all, you listed Caananites, Philistines, etc... What makes them Palestinian and not Jews?
I don't get what you mean by Adult Content. It seems that if you meant themes and stories that take maturity to identify with and understand that there is plenty there.
In Finding Nemo the story told from the Father's perspective is something I don't think is written for children. I think they can identify with it on a basic level, but that is different. On the other hand, Nemo's story is one that children comprehend completely, and adults identify with.
In Toy Story 2, I don't think that children really understand at all what Woody and the girl doll were going through. But they identified fully with the action, fun and friendship, and the Buzz storyline.
Although I don't see much for mature audiences in two Pixar movies. Toy Story (the first), there you have simple jealousy that kids can identify with. A Bug's Life was about being a misfit and dealing with failure, perfect themes for children. But not much there that I don't think is beyond kids.
We don't need to be subsidised - we have real jobs and pay taxes.
If I understand what you say, then there is no need for same-sex marriages. If there is, please explain it to me without resorting to insults or saying "they have it so we should to". You can find the guidelines in this JE.
The great-grandfather post said that you have more control over installing stuff on Gentoo than on Redhat.
A sentiment I agree with. While Redhat (or debian) you can download the source one at a time and compile in the options you wish, you can emerge your whole system (not an easy task, but it took me 1/10 the time as Redhat). And with RedHat/Debian, excersizing that control degrades your ability to upgrade and maintain your system (especially the deaper you control the libraries et. all) while with Gentoo its normal par for the course.
By the way, you can do a custom Redhat install and leave off the bloat. Start by deselecting all the packages.
My Gentoo firewall used 30 megs of disk space. The minimum redhat installation is 100+.
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I have to admit I've seen xeyes and Koules perform much better than even the most simple GTK apps over remote connections. It seems athena and other basic toolkits do better than these newfangled ones ;)
The GTK apps also seem to benefit the least from X compression schemes I've tried. Well the ones that aren't screen-shot deltas like VNC and NX. Actually I'm only partly sure that NX uses delta compression but it performed great.
I'm glad to hear that E is designed from the ground up with remote connections in mind. I still remember the visually stunning themes back in the day. (My favorite being the default plastic looking one that looked like a light was shining on applications and buttons that were active). Though I like GTK, I've found remote connections to be its greatest weakness in my daily routine. I never did try E over remote connection back then.
By the way, since I'm busy and lazy (go figure) does anyone know if FreeNX does not require a seperate login database like NX does?
In Texas I was aquainted with many boiler-makers who had breathing problems from all the asbestos dust. Also there were plants making a powder called "carbon black" that was even finer than soot that was harmful if breathed. I agree, dust can be very harmful.
But I must confess that my reason for writing was that I noticed your question about my stance ona particular issue to me a while back in a Journal that is now archived. I think it deserves a response. The best thing I can do here is point you to my journal where the debate happens frequently.
A good progression might be, First, Second, Third, Fourth. Though there are many other notable articles.
While it had a few bits of eye candy
And Sees has "a few bits of chocolate". Nothing has ever come to the stunning visual excess that E had in its hayday (before Redhat made them all put on shirts and ties).
Emphasis on "choose wisely", but I couldn't agree with you more.
Lets face it, diversity is great. It is great in ecological systems, art, engineering, you name it. Having someone in the house so different that I have to learn to get along with (or I'm very miserable) has helped me achieve a lot of balance I wouldn't have had otherwise.
Thats probably one of the real points this analogy really nails it. People die in oversized Buicks every day, but they don't make the news.
I've got to say though, there is a sort of Mickey Thomson sense of fun and accomplishment on these roads to madness. Like taking a trophy truck across dusty unpredictable roads with many obstacles.
And don't get me wrong Windows is it's own road to madness. But it is for the most part large boring paved highway with no exits (just offramps that say "no exit"), and you are travelling in a very large Buick that seems to only go straight ahead. And while the road seems solid enough the bridges are rickety at every upgrade and fellow drivers seem to pull over randomly to restart their cars all the time.
You want the Smart Fortwo, (rumored to be coming to America in 2006).
I liked Dudley's take on this...
I'm glad you asked.
The card is called an ATM card, its rather convenient. I know that I'm the only one with access to my account, and when its stolen I can have it canceled immediately and a new one mailed.
The pieces of paper that I can hand sign authorizing each transaction are called `checks' (cheques by some). They even come with a number of security features to make sure that they cannot be copied or altered from what I write on them. Pretty neat stuff.
Some people can combine the security of a card in their personal posession with a required signature for each transaction in what we call a "Credit Card". I use it for all of my online purchasing. Many online transactions will require a particular number that is only found on the card itself which is also mailed to me by the bank.
Being a bored lay-man today I'll ask. So Dark energy is some quantum force that has a greater range than gravity, and pushes things away from each other?
Honestly the universe haveing an expansion rate is pretty wierd, even if (especially if) it does loop around at some point.
Hmmm, here in the US I need a digital password that I supply and a physical card with a piece of authorization mailed from the bank for each transaction. Many places require authorization with a physical signature if you don't use the card, and use one of their pre-supplied (mailed to me by the bank) slips of paper with their routing information on it.
Is it? You know all to often I hear an authoritative "wrong behaviour" for GUI's which really just interprets to mean "its not what I'm used to". That may or may not be the case, however, with your usage. All I can say is that I do expect that highlighting something means I want to do something to it. That it gets stored in a clipboard momentarily does not get in the way of that.
While I do often highlight something with the middle button, switch to another application and it doesn't paste is frustrating. Firefox will for everything but what is pasted in the URL's tab for me. I'm not sure why that is honestly, or why it needs to be that way. That is what I'd label as inconsistent GUI behaviour within an application.
Perhaps seeing it as something more present than a clipboard is how I see it. Heres what I mean.
Where I get in the most trouble is that I figure that the bringing a window to the forground should put its selected text (if viewable) in the clipboard. For instance, I select item A in app A, then go to app B and highlight something there. I past in App C and since app B was the most recent foreground app onthe desktop I expect it to be pasted there. Sure enough as advertised.
But then I focus on App A that also has highlighted text, then refocus on App C and paste. Since I see the highlight as something present (not stored on a clipboard) I expect it to be pasted. Not so however.
Anyway, thats probably why copying what is highlighted is not unintuitive to me, however its behaviour might still be.
I have seen the same thing. All I can say is that there seems to be two clipboards.
To fix this, I've gotten in the habit of right clicking on URL's and saying "Open in New [Tab | Window]" or "Copy [Link | Image] Location". Its like trying to thread a needle sometimes picking up a URL (or other text) by highlight. I don't run Gnome or KDE so I can't drag and drop links (I wonder if ol' DnD can do it too).
If I can ask (becuase you've peaked my curiousity now) where do you find the need to be most keen in audio mixing?
Tell me becuase I honestly don't know. How much CPU is needed for your audio needs? The reason I'm asking is it seems that a driveless computer with a low-power chip (which Linux runs on a lot) would be great for the application. The problem being that they cost as much as the very top end Intel systems, much of which due to lack of demand (economies of scale and whatnot).
A while back one could get a StrongArm in a 1U rack, but not any more. Oh well, I suppose I'm just hoping that some kind of market will precipitate such a product so that I can have one. I'd run my whole home network (save the gaming PC) on them if I could.
I've done just such an assesment as you suggest. But I was brought back to reality by some old guy that reminded me that if I did the same with Bottled water I'd not come close to the price of the stuff coming out of my faucet at home.
Not that you are wrong mind you, but take this as a warning about finding out market price from the super-market.
I've thought of that. Another Jury member told me they were worried I might be grounds for a mis-trial. Personally I think they simply syphen off all the alphas that might disagree with them, in this case for the reason you specified. Lawyers, cops and judges are often the absolute first to be removed
And although I can see the right reasons behind what they do, I'm first to admit Lawyers are very, very good at doing all the wrong things for the professed right reasons.
By the way Morosoph, thanks for your participation in that survey. Unfortunately I can't keep everyone playing nice even when I want to. You've always been a true gentleman to deal with.
I just recently served on a Jury, and I assure you that it was evident with the questions they asked me and the other perspective jurors that the ability to look at the evidence and facts (the Court's best approximation of truth) was formost on their minds. Prejudices were seen as something that hampers that ability.
For instance this case involved someone getting a gun out and shooting his ex-girlfriend becuase she had an abortion. I was the first to be excused, even though my closest ties to the anti-abortion movement is affiliation with a unwanted pregnancy help organization that advocates adoption instead of abortion. I do not affiliate with any organizatio that bombs abortion clinics, or even lobbies to make abortion illegal.
And for reasons I do not know the prosecution (the one who I would figure was looking for people who did not like abortion) set me free before anyone else.
So in short, I do not know that the dilemma you pose between balance of prejudices as being an imprecise (or even counter-productive) to commitment to truth really exists.
due to the colonial activities of the West.
Catchphrase of the wanna-be victimized.
Looking at history there isn't much you can do but blame *some* of the latest country definitions on the west.
This is like the anti-appeal to authority, where the connundrum of what makes a country is so elusive that anyone that assumes the authority of doing it is victimizing its citizenry.
Palestine was under Ottoman rule for centuries, just like Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Tunisia, Algeria, and others, and under various Muslim rule before that.
Your conflating a region and a country. Since the Palestinians want their due country (and so do the Israeli's) its very relevant to ask when they had a country before. The conflation can only go so far, i.e. I'm not sure that Tibetans are asking for a "Himilayan" nation, or even an "Asian" nation.
There are Philistines mentioned in your bible, as well as Cannanites, Amalekites, Jebusites and others.
This comes at another angle to show you are conflating a region with a nation, as for all the times I check I do not see "Palestinians" in that list. However they are assumed to be Palestinians post-hoc becuase people now call that region Palestine.
You want to freeze history at just one point in time,
I don't see SuperYooser advocating looking at the region as just one moment in time. I wouldn't take his reference to that time so narrowly as to anticipate that he rests entirely on that time. I actually abhore such recasting of another persons debate. Your worst is as follows...
and after then were taken into the Babylonian exile, and after the Romans destroyed the temple in 70 C.E.
And after that the UN established Israel, but you seem to be the one focusing on a moment in the past more than SuperYooser.
For all you wish to dismiss as irrelevant (you use that word four times and often as the sum total of the arguement you make on a particular point), I'd assume you are really asking people to turn myopic. I for one take the circumspect approach, and trust more the people that enable me to do so.
Why can't the Jews call themselves Palestinian? After all, you listed Caananites, Philistines, etc... What makes them Palestinian and not Jews?
And that is about all I need to say.
I don't get what you mean by Adult Content. It seems that if you meant themes and stories that take maturity to identify with and understand that there is plenty there.
In Finding Nemo the story told from the Father's perspective is something I don't think is written for children. I think they can identify with it on a basic level, but that is different. On the other hand, Nemo's story is one that children comprehend completely, and adults identify with.
In Toy Story 2, I don't think that children really understand at all what Woody and the girl doll were going through. But they identified fully with the action, fun and friendship, and the Buzz storyline.
Although I don't see much for mature audiences in two Pixar movies. Toy Story (the first), there you have simple jealousy that kids can identify with. A Bug's Life was about being a misfit and dealing with failure, perfect themes for children. But not much there that I don't think is beyond kids.
This is a bit of a dated thread but I had to say Amen to it. Thank you for reminding me of why I moved from Debian so long ago.
We don't need to be subsidised - we have real jobs and pay taxes.
If I understand what you say, then there is no need for same-sex marriages. If there is, please explain it to me without resorting to insults or saying "they have it so we should to". You can find the guidelines in this JE.
The great-grandfather post said that you have more control over installing stuff on Gentoo than on Redhat.
A sentiment I agree with. While Redhat (or debian) you can download the source one at a time and compile in the options you wish, you can emerge your whole system (not an easy task, but it took me 1/10 the time as Redhat). And with RedHat/Debian, excersizing that control degrades your ability to upgrade and maintain your system (especially the deaper you control the libraries et. all) while with Gentoo its normal par for the course.
By the way, you can do a custom Redhat install and leave off the bloat. Start by deselecting all the packages.
My Gentoo firewall used 30 megs of disk space. The minimum redhat installation is 100+.