1) do not coincide with the maintainers vision, or 2) are not worth the maintainers time to merge in, as PPC has traditionally been a second-class target.
Where do you get your facts from? This strikes of an Apple apologist. I just don't believe for a second that Apple has been trying hard to give back to the community, but the community won't have anything to do with them because of the maintainers tremendous egos. What a crock.
Right. That was worth a waste of your breath (and Slashdot's bandwidth).
Umm, you asked, little brain. I responded. Yes, it was worth a breath to explain that an open standard filesystem has more value than a proprietary filesystem on a shitOS that's a fair to middlin' product when configured "optimally". I wouldn't expect a naive schoolgirl to understand that.
It's simple. Make a proprietary binary file that md5sums a different file depending on the day of the week, appends the date to that md5sum, md5sums the result, then cats the date string to that md5 sum and returns it.
The support guy types in the the string that the proprietary program cranks out and voila! He can re-create that number using the supplied date and the hidden knowledge (that being what file is associated with the time string supplied).
Of course there are knuckleheads who are going to try to get something for nothing (ie consulting services for the price of support services). You CAN be smarter than them.
Your company provides support for the binary distribution you provide (as part of the sale). If the customer wants support for a version compiled from source, the support is provided with an hourly fee.
This is exactly what I do at my company. If there are any modifications to the code, then instead of being a support issue, it becomes a consulting issue. We check the binaries before we even begin by ssh'ing to the machines (we make servers) and md5summing the appropriate libraries and binaries.
Gee, I learned something about tech support reading this:
If you call the wrong support number, you won't get a satisfactory answer.
What irony here. If you have a VB problem you need to contac the VB tech support people? Damn, that's too complicated.
They should've called that Jamaican Tarot Lady and asked her which number they needed to call to get support for their questions.
"Um, So you're telling me that the Queen of cups says I have to call the VB number for VB problems and the Access number for Access problems? {smarmy} Hehe, yeah sure, I'm smarter than you, you fraud!{/smarmy}"
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It isn't that hard. You make it sound like we have to hammer out applications in Assembly Language for PalmOS. There are lots of companies making lots of money cranking out vertical market applications for the Palm. Hell, Symbol Technologies and TRG make Palms that are primarily for cranking out vertical market apps.
Programming PalmOS is a breeze for anyone with a working knowledge of C. I actually prefer programming for PalmOS to programming GUI apps in Unix because of the simplicity and consistency of the platform. You don't have to bother worrying about widget placement, or color depth, or any of that extraneous crap that makes X windows programs so cumbersome to program (and so great to use).
A classic Linux user needs console-based apps and cross-compiling functionality.
Umm, this is a PDA not a laptop. As a PDA user, I can tell you that I regularly flip between 5-6 applications in the course of a day. These apps are in memory (I use a Palm m105 these days) so there is a delay of at most a second or two, if the app is large. A delay of 4-5 seconds would annoy me to no end, let alone 40 seconds.
It seems that Agenda just didn't put that much effort into turning Linux into an embedded os. There are more issues than simply Will it run on a PDA?
I don't know. I haven't seen one for real yet. Based on this review and another I read in Palm Computing Magazine, I'm probably going to hold off until v2.0, if there is one.
Bar none? Then both I and Steve Wozniak are knuckleheads?
I guess so. Wozniak I can omit, because I'd tend to believe that he's never had to deal with his own company form a pure customers point of view.
In my experience as an unofficial computer support person,
So, you've never had any real experience caring for more than the machine you use on a regular basis, and you feel you have that you are knowledgable enough to comment on the entire state of Mac users? This is at the very heart of that Knuckleheadedness of which I've spoken.
you just wanted to spew venom in an unfocused rage.
Didn't expect you to notice that my rage is pointed precisely at a company that routinely abuses its unknowledgable customers, and towards the mewling hoards of customers who bend over and take it and ask for more. Knucklehead.
I dunno about this -- the most computer illiterate people are Wintel's primary demographic.
I do NOT concur. Yes, there are plenty of knuckleheads using wintel machines, but there are TONS of people using these machines. In my experience as a computer professional, I find that Mac users are much less capable of dealing with minor problems that arise on their systems. They may know all of Wired's buzzwords, but mac users are knuckleheads, bar none (if this is what you meant by computer awareness, then I do agree with you). I've listened to Mac users in CompUSA harp about how you have to have a mac if you want to play mp3s or dvds.
because since 1991 or so, you have to have really loved the Mac OS to put up with expensive hardware, corporate idiocy, and really, really poor (official) technical support.
Child, they've been pulling this shit since 1984. Nothing new. The only difference is that there was free technical support.
Apple is a tyrant even more so than Microsoft. Not only do they control the operating system and software development, but they dictate what hardware you can buy to run that software on and are the only suppliers of said software. Talk about "1984". It should have been Steve Jobs face up on that big screen.
Actually I read he was training with the crew in both Russia and in Texas. That was part of the deal.
It's not like he's completely unaware of the functions of the space station. I have a feeling he probably is going to have some responsibilities up there, too. Even though he's paying, the Russians need to get productive work from the guy.
Better watch yourself, they'll have to yank your post for including references to the copyrighted materials in the sacred cash cow texts of the Church of Scientology(tm).
They're 20% of what a "real" computer is, at 80% the price.
This is always what got me. I don't mind a limited use device, but the advantage to this is usually low price. Now if they could drop the price to 20%, or even 30% of a computers price, I'd buy one, or even two.
I was particularly disappointed in the price of Kerbango, that was something that I really could have used and the old "TFT monitors cost so much" argument doesn't hold water here. I don't even think the device has a hard drive. How did they justify the $399 price tag on that?
he is simply asking that the contributions of the GNU project be acknowledged when people talk about Linux as an operating system (as opposed to a kernel).
If he wanted recognition, he should have released under the BSD license. I don't have to recognize his contributions, and I choose not to. It's Linux.
What the real question here is, IMO, boils down to a question: Do you own the in-game objects that your character has, or are you just using them?
Does a football player own the ball he just received? Whether or not we are paying to play or being payed to play is irrelevant. Do you own the bowling ball that you use to bowl with down at the public lanes, even though you are paying to bowl? The obvious answer is no.
I can see that Verant/Sony have a legitimate beef here. I know that people become very attached to their characters, but does the EULA say anything about who owns those characters (I don't know for sure)? I'd be willing to bet that Sony/Verant have retained ownership of the characters, for the simple reason of liablity (someone posted earlier about how Sony would be responsible fiscally if a character owned by a player were to be wiped out in a server crash).
The Revo looked like it had a workable keyboard, but I've yet to see one in real life. The fact that they are hard to find is a big black mark against it in my book.
The HP 200LX has a "keyboard" that's even sorrier than any of the Wince clamshells were. If anyone can type on that I'd be truly impressed. I can easily write graffiti faster than I can thumb in information to the 200 LX. There's a reason that the tiny, crappy keyboard form factor has been abandoned by the vast majority of Handheld device manufacturers.
You ever notice that when there's a story about a science fiction event (movie, website, game, whatever) there's always some snooty sci-fi "afficionado" around to tell everyone how misguided their devotion to said author/director/program?
Well, swordgeek, you rock and you're just a little more sophisticated than everyone else here.
And everybody knows that Harlan Ellison would be nothing if it weren't for the genius Gene Roddenberry mentoring him while he co-wrote (with Gene) the legendary script to "The City on the Edge of Forever".
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1) do not coincide with the maintainers vision, or 2) are not worth the maintainers time to merge in, as PPC has traditionally been a second-class target.
Where do you get your facts from? This strikes of an Apple apologist. I just don't believe for a second that Apple has been trying hard to give back to the community, but the community won't have anything to do with them because of the maintainers tremendous egos. What a crock.
I maybe wrong, cite your sources.
Right. That was worth a waste of your breath (and Slashdot's bandwidth).
Umm, you asked, little brain. I responded. Yes, it was worth a breath to explain that an open standard filesystem has more value than a proprietary filesystem on a shitOS that's a fair to middlin' product when configured "optimally". I wouldn't expect a naive schoolgirl to understand that.
How is this an advancement on NT, which has had journaling features since NT 4.0
Well, you can use this with a useful OS for one, instead of a knucklehead joke OS like NT or W2K.
It's simple. Make a proprietary binary file that md5sums a different file depending on the day of the week, appends the date to that md5sum, md5sums the result, then cats the date string to that md5 sum and returns it.
The support guy types in the the string that the proprietary program cranks out and voila! He can re-create that number using the supplied date and the hidden knowledge (that being what file is associated with the time string supplied).
Of course there are knuckleheads who are going to try to get something for nothing (ie consulting services for the price of support services). You CAN be smarter than them.
Your company provides support for the binary distribution you provide (as part of the sale). If the customer wants support for a version compiled from source, the support is provided with an hourly fee.
This is exactly what I do at my company. If there are any modifications to the code, then instead of being a support issue, it becomes a consulting issue. We check the binaries before we even begin by ssh'ing to the machines (we make servers) and md5summing the appropriate libraries and binaries.
Gee, I learned something about tech support reading this:
If you call the wrong support number, you won't get a satisfactory answer.
What irony here. If you have a VB problem you need to contac the VB tech support people? Damn, that's too complicated.
They should've called that Jamaican Tarot Lady and asked her which number they needed to call to get support for their questions.
"Um, So you're telling me that the Queen of cups says I have to call the VB number for VB problems and the Access number for Access problems? {smarmy} Hehe, yeah sure, I'm smarter than you, you fraud!{/smarmy}"
It isn't that hard. You make it sound like we have to hammer out applications in Assembly Language for PalmOS. There are lots of companies making lots of money cranking out vertical market applications for the Palm. Hell, Symbol Technologies and TRG make Palms that are primarily for cranking out vertical market apps.
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Programming PalmOS is a breeze for anyone with a working knowledge of C. I actually prefer programming for PalmOS to programming GUI apps in Unix because of the simplicity and consistency of the platform. You don't have to bother worrying about widget placement, or color depth, or any of that extraneous crap that makes X windows programs so cumbersome to program (and so great to use).
Just because you can't program it in Visual Basic doesn't mean that it's impossible to work with. Oops, my bad, you can crank out apps for PalmOS in VB. Well, there goes your argument
Checked it out. It suffers from the same form factor as the Newton Messagepad. Too big to carry in a pocket, too small to be a laptop replacement.
That VHS Video Tape size is horrible. Anything much larger than a pack of playing cards is too big to carry around all the time.
A classic Linux user needs console-based apps and cross-compiling functionality.
Umm, this is a PDA not a laptop. As a PDA user, I can tell you that I regularly flip between 5-6 applications in the course of a day. These apps are in memory (I use a Palm m105 these days) so there is a delay of at most a second or two, if the app is large. A delay of 4-5 seconds would annoy me to no end, let alone 40 seconds.
It seems that Agenda just didn't put that much effort into turning Linux into an embedded os. There are more issues than simply Will it run on a PDA?
I don't know. I haven't seen one for real yet. Based on this review and another I read in Palm Computing Magazine, I'm probably going to hold off until v2.0, if there is one.
Bar none? Then both I and Steve Wozniak are knuckleheads?
I guess so. Wozniak I can omit, because I'd tend to believe that he's never had to deal with his own company form a pure customers point of view.
In my experience as an unofficial computer support person,
So, you've never had any real experience caring for more than the machine you use on a regular basis, and you feel you have that you are knowledgable enough to comment on the entire state of Mac users? This is at the very heart of that Knuckleheadedness of which I've spoken.
you just wanted to spew venom in an unfocused rage.
Didn't expect you to notice that my rage is pointed precisely at a company that routinely abuses its unknowledgable customers, and towards the mewling hoards of customers who bend over and take it and ask for more. Knucklehead.
I dunno about this -- the most computer illiterate people are Wintel's primary demographic.
I do NOT concur. Yes, there are plenty of knuckleheads using wintel machines, but there are TONS of people using these machines. In my experience as a computer professional, I find that Mac users are much less capable of dealing with minor problems that arise on their systems. They may know all of Wired's buzzwords, but mac users are knuckleheads, bar none (if this is what you meant by computer awareness, then I do agree with you). I've listened to Mac users in CompUSA harp about how you have to have a mac if you want to play mp3s or dvds.
because since 1991 or so, you have to have really loved the Mac OS to put up with expensive hardware, corporate idiocy, and really, really poor (official) technical support.
Child, they've been pulling this shit since 1984. Nothing new. The only difference is that there was free technical support.
Apple is a tyrant even more so than Microsoft. Not only do they control the operating system and software development, but they dictate what hardware you can buy to run that software on and are the only suppliers of said software. Talk about "1984". It should have been Steve Jobs face up on that big screen.
Apple was successful in stopping computers from being built with the prefix "i-" in the name. Methinks a judge can be found that will support this.
Actually I read he was training with the crew in both Russia and in Texas. That was part of the deal.
It's not like he's completely unaware of the functions of the space station. I have a feeling he probably is going to have some responsibilities up there, too. Even though he's paying, the Russians need to get productive work from the guy.
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No spaces this way.
It'd be cool if it worked with an off-the-produce Banana sticker, instead of a high-tech dot.
I don't agree that CVS sucks, but this review certainly does.
How does it suck? All in all I'd say his review is a hell of a lot more useful than your empty diatribe.
Don't forget object-oriented, net-enabled COBOL to go along with it.
Ugh, talking about kicking a dead whale down the beach...
Didn't you know that instruction pounds per second is the new standard metric for computing power?
Better watch yourself, they'll have to yank your post for including references to the copyrighted materials in the sacred cash cow texts of the Church of Scientology(tm).
They're 20% of what a "real" computer is, at 80% the price.
This is always what got me. I don't mind a limited use device, but the advantage to this is usually low price. Now if they could drop the price to 20%, or even 30% of a computers price, I'd buy one, or even two.
I was particularly disappointed in the price of Kerbango, that was something that I really could have used and the old "TFT monitors cost so much" argument doesn't hold water here. I don't even think the device has a hard drive. How did they justify the $399 price tag on that?
he is simply asking that the contributions of the GNU project be acknowledged when people talk about Linux as an operating system (as opposed to a kernel).
If he wanted recognition, he should have released under the BSD license. I don't have to recognize his contributions, and I choose not to. It's Linux.
Sorry, the Pope hasn't advocated biblical creationism ever. The Roman Catholic Church has embraced evolution from very early on.
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http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~newman/sci-faith.ht
Read all about it.
What the real question here is, IMO, boils down to a question: Do you own the in-game objects that your character has, or are you just using them?
Does a football player own the ball he just received? Whether or not we are paying to play or being payed to play is irrelevant. Do you own the bowling ball that you use to bowl with down at the public lanes, even though you are paying to bowl? The obvious answer is no.
I can see that Verant/Sony have a legitimate beef here. I know that people become very attached to their characters, but does the EULA say anything about who owns those characters (I don't know for sure)? I'd be willing to bet that Sony/Verant have retained ownership of the characters, for the simple reason of liablity (someone posted earlier about how Sony would be responsible fiscally if a character owned by a player were to be wiped out in a server crash).
The Revo looked like it had a workable keyboard, but I've yet to see one in real life. The fact that they are hard to find is a big black mark against it in my book.
The HP 200LX has a "keyboard" that's even sorrier than any of the Wince clamshells were. If anyone can type on that I'd be truly impressed. I can easily write graffiti faster than I can thumb in information to the 200 LX. There's a reason that the tiny, crappy keyboard form factor has been abandoned by the vast majority of Handheld device manufacturers.
Well, I guess you're just too cool for us...
You ever notice that when there's a story about a science fiction event (movie, website, game, whatever) there's always some snooty sci-fi "afficionado" around to tell everyone how misguided their devotion to said author/director/program?
Well, swordgeek, you rock and you're just a little more sophisticated than everyone else here.
And everybody knows that Harlan Ellison would be nothing if it weren't for the genius Gene Roddenberry mentoring him while he co-wrote (with Gene) the legendary script to "The City on the Edge of Forever".