Some people say, "Abstract art, what a load of crap. A four year old could do better than that". These people would completely fail to appreciate the essential gritsness of this work, instead saying, "That doesn't look like hot grits at all. It looks funny". I would probably agree with them.
A technology such as this will certainly increase the number of "electronic billboards" people see while driving through major cities.
Perhaps, but there's a couple of things to consider here.
Would these devices degrade in the sun?
How bright are they? Because they are light-emitting devices (as opposed to regular printing which is light-reflecting), they would need to be very bright indeed to be colorful in daylight. (There's an electronic billboard near my place that uses high-intensity LEDs, for instance.) I doubt that they would be bright enough.
In your first sentence, you made the word my a hyperlink to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary. This is wrong. My (refering to you, the grammar nazi) is not a dictionary, so it is incorrect to link the two. A reader seeing the link on my might reasonably expect it to point to, say, your User Info page, not a dictionary.
The sentence could be better written like this (for example): ``My kneejerk response is to consult a dictionary:''
Remember, grammar nazi Sir, good grammar doesn't just apply to ordinary text, it applies to hypertext as well.
The hypergrammar nazi. Keeping/. free of hypergrammatical errors for three minutes.
They are keeping quiet about their higher level APIs because they aren't finished yet. I believe that they released this current SDK so that people could get used to the lower-level, Tao stuff.
Amiga Inc really should get their developers' site up (www.amigadev.net) if they hope to attract any developers. There's virtually no technical information up on amiga.com, nothing for developers. They've generated quite a bit of publicity, but I wonder, who is this publicity targeted to? Surely they should be courting developers at this stage.
I would remind you that Socrates chose to drink the hemlock, because he considered it his civic duty to abide by the laws of the land, a death sentence in this case. He even declined his friends' offer to help him with an easy escape.
It's obvious that you are the real Signal 11, Mr Anonymous Coward, and that the original post is genuine. You respond to one of your own posts, throwing the scent off the original by claiming that it's by a Signal 11 troll variant -- knowing that a troll will never attack another troll -- meanwhile collecting the sweet, sweet karma. Very clever, Bojay, you are not to be underestimated.
People like that make me laugh. Microsoft isn't innovative, they simply tie existing technologies into their OS for their own gain, which comes across as making their $hit more user friendly..
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.
Wind0z L0vers suck. They don't realize that if it wasn't for other OS's/competetion, they would be paying $300 for a crap OS. Still, they wish every other OS would die and they're would only be Microsoft.
You talk about competing with MS, yet you don't want to try to understand their strategy. I suppose you think you'll win by pure righteousness alone. Good luck.
Me> Also, XML is by its very nature Open Source of course.
AC> Oh, really?... Please stop being an asswipe.
I mean that you can open XML in any text editor and look at it. Anyone can look at the source code of an XML document, therefore it's open source (maybe I shouldn't have capitalized the words Open Source). Do you have any idea of what you are talking about?
I was simply trying to explain what MS may have meant by platform independence, and that the journalist, or whomever to journalist spoke to, expressed it badly.
I don't really want to defend MS, but there are just so many closed-minded zealots around here.
I'll learn to use it when it become an ISO standard. LONG LIVE C++.
C++ gained its popularity long before it became a standard. That's how it works with most languages. You could be waiting for some time. In any case, languages have to properly documented before anyone can use them.
One thing confused me.. They said that C# was not only platform independent but "language" dependent. That seems awful hard since you'll be writing c# applications in none other than c#
I think whoever wrote that was a little confused; but what I think MS is saying with this new NGWS platform is that it will play nice with other platforms (could just be wishful thinking on my part though).
They have a message passing system called SOAP (Simple Object Access Protocol) which sends XML messages accross a HTTP link. I believe it's the same sort of thing as CORBA or DCOM (Remote Procedure Calls and so on) but easier to use. Now, since most programming languages have no trouble with XML and HTTP, any language would easily be able to speak the protocol. Also, XML is by its very nature Open Source of course.
Now, for some speculation: I think that Web Apps and other internet services are going to be a big part of the new platform, so they want other languages to be able to use their internet services (even Linux users) they'll charge for their services of course.
Today, Amiga is now just another OS for Intel-based PC's. Whoopee do.
Are you saying that OSs have reached perfection, and there is no more advancement possible? That current OSs have some sort of universal applicability in all domains?
I don't know if the New Amiga will be an improvement. The reason I don't know is simply that I haven't seen it yet. Very few people have. They have released very few technical details -- until the SDK now. Surely it would make sense to actually see something first before making some judgement. This is called empericism, it's been a big thing for the last 600 years or so.
Well, they bought the Amiga name presumably for marketing reasons; certainly most of the IP they bought is out of date. Seems like a deft move to me. The name "New Amiga" for the new platform is just a working name I think.
Funny thing about axes, they started out being made of stone, then they kept replacing the handles and heads as technology improved, but they still call them axes for some reason.
Myst was one of the biggest selling games of all time (maybe even the biggest). I read an article once (wish I could remember where) that it had huge appeal to the mass market, but bored proper gamers senseless.
And I for one *do* think that video games *may* become the central artform of the 21st century. At the beginning of the 20th century, film was a used for little more than silly experiments and peep-shows that people who could not afford the theater attended. But by any reasonable measure film became (along with the novel) the great artform of the 20th century: Kurosawa, Bergman, Kubrick etc.
Very nicely said.
[...] this post was aggressively stupid. Katz often rants about the stereotyped, oppressed geek. But I guess stereotyping the ``intelligentsia'' is fair game.
Katz is not the most accurate writer in the world, but still I don't see how you could have read it like that. For one, most of the article is about Janet Murray, an "MIT Professor", i.e. one of the intelligentsia.
My reading was simply that Katz thinks games are overlooked as an important cultural force by many of the intelligentsia. This is not hard to understand really, after all in the early days of film (to borrow your example), the only people who would have been interested in peep show films would have been perverts and mechanical engineers. And especially perverted mechanical engineers.
Janet Murray wrote a book called Hamlet on the Holodeck. Katz was alluding to to Murray's work. I don't know why the next Shakespeare would be clacking away at a weblog, I really don't think it's important. His assertion was simply that there will be great artists that have huge cultural influence coming from the medium of games.
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Some people say, "Abstract art, what a load of crap. A four year old could do better than that". These people would completely fail to appreciate the essential gritsness of this work, instead saying, "That doesn't look like hot grits at all. It looks funny". I would probably agree with them.
Yup, the more cues an interface gives you, the better.
The real Penis Bird Guy is an occasionally amusing, but more often banal, spamlord.
Perhaps, but there's a couple of things to consider here.
Would these devices degrade in the sun?
How bright are they? Because they are light-emitting devices (as opposed to regular printing which is light-reflecting), they would need to be very bright indeed to be colorful in daylight. (There's an electronic billboard near my place that uses high-intensity LEDs, for instance.) I doubt that they would be bright enough.
The sentence could be better written like this (for example): ``My kneejerk response is to consult a dictionary:''
Remember, grammar nazi Sir, good grammar doesn't just apply to ordinary text, it applies to hypertext as well.
The hypergrammar nazi. Keeping /. free of hypergrammatical errors for three minutes.
What does spell checking have to do with good grammar?
Amiga Inc really should get their developers' site up (www.amigadev.net) if they hope to attract any developers. There's virtually no technical information up on amiga.com, nothing for developers. They've generated quite a bit of publicity, but I wonder, who is this publicity targeted to? Surely they should be courting developers at this stage.
I would remind you that Socrates chose to drink the hemlock, because he considered it his civic duty to abide by the laws of the land, a death sentence in this case. He even declined his friends' offer to help him with an easy escape.
God, I'm even more pedantic than you.
It's obvious that you are the real Signal 11, Mr Anonymous Coward, and that the original post is genuine. You respond to one of your own posts, throwing the scent off the original by claiming that it's by a Signal 11 troll variant -- knowing that a troll will never attack another troll -- meanwhile collecting the sweet, sweet karma. Very clever, Bojay, you are not to be underestimated.
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here.
Wind0z L0vers suck. They don't realize that if it wasn't for other OS's/competetion, they would be paying $300 for a crap OS. Still, they wish every other OS would die and they're would only be Microsoft.
You talk about competing with MS, yet you don't want to try to understand their strategy. I suppose you think you'll win by pure righteousness alone. Good luck.
I believe XML will be the primary means of communication on this new platform (using SOAP).
A closed mouth gathers no foot...
Indeed ;)
Me> Also, XML is by its very nature Open Source of course.
AC> Oh, really? ... Please stop being an asswipe.
I mean that you can open XML in any text editor and look at it. Anyone can look at the source code of an XML document, therefore it's open source (maybe I shouldn't have capitalized the words Open Source). Do you have any idea of what you are talking about?
I was simply trying to explain what MS may have meant by platform independence, and that the journalist, or whomever to journalist spoke to, expressed it badly.
I don't really want to defend MS, but there are just so many closed-minded zealots around here.
I'll learn to use it when it become an ISO standard. LONG LIVE C++.
C++ gained its popularity long before it became a standard. That's how it works with most languages. You could be waiting for some time. In any case, languages have to properly documented before anyone can use them.
I think whoever wrote that was a little confused; but what I think MS is saying with this new NGWS platform is that it will play nice with other platforms (could just be wishful thinking on my part though).
They have a message passing system called SOAP (Simple Object Access Protocol) which sends XML messages accross a HTTP link. I believe it's the same sort of thing as CORBA or DCOM (Remote Procedure Calls and so on) but easier to use. Now, since most programming languages have no trouble with XML and HTTP, any language would easily be able to speak the protocol. Also, XML is by its very nature Open Source of course.
Now, for some speculation: I think that Web Apps and other internet services are going to be a big part of the new platform, so they want other languages to be able to use their internet services (even Linux users) they'll charge for their services of course.
Are you saying that OSs have reached perfection, and there is no more advancement possible? That current OSs have some sort of universal applicability in all domains?
I don't know if the New Amiga will be an improvement. The reason I don't know is simply that I haven't seen it yet. Very few people have. They have released very few technical details -- until the SDK now. Surely it would make sense to actually see something first before making some judgement. This is called empericism, it's been a big thing for the last 600 years or so.
Yeah, I hate those xenophobes.
Funny thing about axes, they started out being made of stone, then they kept replacing the handles and heads as technology improved, but they still call them axes for some reason.
Myst was one of the biggest selling games of all time (maybe even the biggest). I read an article once (wish I could remember where) that it had huge appeal to the mass market, but bored proper gamers senseless.
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And I for one *do* think that video games *may* become the central artform of the 21st century. At the beginning of the 20th century, film was a used for little more than silly experiments and peep-shows that people who could not afford the theater attended. But by any reasonable measure film became (along with the novel) the great artform of the 20th century: Kurosawa, Bergman, Kubrick etc.
Very nicely said.
[...] this post was aggressively stupid. Katz often rants about the stereotyped, oppressed geek. But I guess stereotyping the ``intelligentsia'' is fair game.
Katz is not the most accurate writer in the world, but still I don't see how you could have read it like that. For one, most of the article is about Janet Murray, an "MIT Professor", i.e. one of the intelligentsia.
My reading was simply that Katz thinks games are overlooked as an important cultural force by many of the intelligentsia. This is not hard to understand really, after all in the early days of film (to borrow your example), the only people who would have been interested in peep show films would have been perverts and mechanical engineers. And especially perverted mechanical engineers.
Janet Murray wrote a book called Hamlet on the Holodeck. Katz was alluding to to Murray's work. I don't know why the next Shakespeare would be clacking away at a weblog, I really don't think it's important. His assertion was simply that there will be great artists that have huge cultural influence coming from the medium of games.
God, sometimes it just so hard tell if people are just stupid or if they are excellent trolls.
Yes, I was personally shocked and offended by that. I certainly can't trust him now. How dare he!