You can all bow to me, as I can grow hop and brew BEER!
This is probably the only sure thing about a post-apocalyptic world: people will still want to get wasted to forget
Okay, english is my second language so I'll hope people will be able to follow.
It will never be a race to "zero". Everything in life has a price, either in work time or in money. Yet, if we talk about a software company as a business model (selling software), then YES your software will eventually sell for "nothing". What you will sell is more on the consultant business model than the old factoring model. Instead of selling a software, you will sell the knowledge to develop a software.
No matter what happens, you can be sure that the companies won't leave their business running alone. Let's imagine a word without any OS running. Well, you can be sure that a company will go "hey! I need that piece of metal to be usefull". They'll do a simple analysis: what is the more cost effective between paying people to do the old paperwork or paying someone to develop an OS. The answer is: paying someone to do the paperwork for short term. Yet, let's say you're a BIG company and that you know that company B is in the same situation, as is company C,D and E. Well if you all group together and pay company F to develop a software, the total price will be lower. You split the prices with other company and you create an OS.
Then again, you always want to lower your prices to make more money. What you do? You go see company I, J and K to help fund the development. But company B,C,D and E also did the same, so know you're about 30 paying for the development. Cost gets lower, company F makes the same amount of money and the development goes on. That's where a "perfect" OSS model would tend to.
Now, will that happens? The answer is simple:
IBM is behind linux
Sun is going with open Solaris
Novell is behind linux
IBM, Sun, Novell... aren't they the "old school" computer companies? It's not generalized yet, cause we need a really important player for that to happens: MS. But they know it too much: their model is dead, they're only trying to buy time (OOXML) before it is too late, which is EXACTLY what I would've done, as everyone of us;)
As simple as that: it's pure capitalism. They know their economy is a total shit, so they take money off other countries to keep surviving.
Want to fight it? Take free software when you can, and pirate them enough so they'll have a drop in their prices to get the market. When they'll understand they can't continue to fraud people of other country they'll adjust the price. But as long as you keep buying it, they'll continue.
Speaking from experience I can tell you that an "opt-in" program would never collect enough data to be useful.
Not really, everyone know most people doesn't read all pop-ups and only click next/yes when installing.
Make a checkbox "I want to share hardware information with the company in order to help develop better games" enabled by default and you'll have lot of hits.
It's quite like the EULA, except that you actually have a 1 liner (not hidden) and it can be deactivated without having to drop the game.
Yes, that's why my mommy always told me:
"Honey, if you want to know if your friend has a new game, ask him. No need to brek in his house and search his underwears."
I'd say chill out. If they want to pay you for doing nothing, well do nothing. Don't go in the vendetta part, just.. do nothing. As someone stated, if something breaks, say you don't have access anymore so you can't help. If they don't ask question do NOT provide the information by yourself.
I have a rule: have as much loyalty for your bosses as they have for you. If they sent a notice like "Due to oue firm policy, your account will be suspended in order to blablabla" then it would be fine trade. Cutting without notice is like telling you they don't trust you. they think you will leave some kind of virus/trojan horse in the system and don't want it to happen (I know it since it's what is being tought in some security courses).
So do whatever you want. If you really want to send a message, get a book to work, put your feet on the desk and read all day long in front of your co-workers. Just make sure they know that you do WANT to help, but just CAN'T help because the company no longer trust you. That will hurt the company even more than anything else you could imagine and you keep the good part: you didn't do anything wrong, just stated the truth: the company prevent you from working.
I didn't read lots of replies so it may already been stated. What comcast is doing is simple network engeneering. Using a "burst" architeture allow to quickly send small files, at the detriments of long one. Why doing so? simple QoS. It's an easy way to create some degre of QoS without having to introduce more complex technologies. Just think about what are "small" vs "long" files:
Small:
multimedia using UDP (VoIP,streaming), Web Pages, text emails, instant messenger, most games. In fact mostly what people use their connection for.
Long:
Email attachments, file downloads, "torrents"
Most people can wait for their downloads 2-3 minutes more, but you just can NOT wait a second for a multimedia paquet to arrive. So by doing a "burst" strategy, they give "priority" on small files which doesn't congest your network for long, while slowing the long files that congest everything for quite a time.
It's about the same as cars vs buses. By giving more speed/priority to the cars vs the buses, you allow more vehicule to use your road over time. Even if the amount of data transmitted is lower, the amount of different data is higher.
Working on that right now! Soon on your PC the new way to feel like if you were there!
But on a serious part, the main trouble with show/CD is that with the current model, Labels make money on CDs to promote the group on radios so people go see the show and give omney to the bands. So cuting the CDs will in fact cut the money on the labels, wich promote the group on your local radio. And if you don't hear the music, you don't do see the show.
That's the dinosaur way of thinking. So in their point of view, we're killing them, and they tell bands that we kill them. BUT What they don't see is that we juste remove the labels from the line. The new model should be:
Band make music, Band sell/give away in music networks that allow to "Get music like [put band you already downloaded]" feature. Since the music is free/cheap you WILL try music (no money lost mean more chance to try new stuff). And then, site/band can then promote their shows with people that actually downloaded the music. The only thing you need is getting enough traffic so advertisers pay you enough so oyu can provide the service for free for both the bands and the users. Who will pay for the fees? The advertisers. The perfect pattern would be : free recording expertise for bands, free promotion via the site, and free music for the buyer. The show is where the band get the money back, without interference.
Labels just forgot something really important in their business: the client is neither the buyer nor the band, they both are. Right now they tryed to make money over both of them: screw the bands AND the buyer. Result: NiN leaving, Madonna leaving, Radiohead leaving and sells droping.
That'd be the best way, yet it's totally incompatible with the old business model from big company: Force customer to buy my crap by bashing all competition instead of giving a better service.
Some of the big business forgot something important: you live because you give somthing the customer wants. They tryed to force people to stay retarded, and they'll lose in the long run if they don't evolve.
To make a parallel with the car industry: record industry would still sell horses while we have cars.
cjb.net and dynDNS.org offer domain mail forwarding. Mean if you want to register the free domain paranoid.cjb.net, you own *@paranoid.cjb.net : should give enough emails;)
Nice comment. It exactly express thw way we need to see OS: they are tools and we use wichever is the most usefull for our work. I would't use a screwdriver to repaint my new bedroom, as I wouldn't run a JBoss server on windows.
But I don't mind using windows to listen to DVDs or play games. Linux users tend to forget the whole OS is based on a SERVER OS, not a desktop. If they want to really be proud of their OS, they should go on http://www.top500.org/* and see the proportion of linux: THAT'S the linux achievement. THAT'S where it was supposed to be.
Now if they want to make it a proper OS for everyone as a desktop, they need to put the efforts so the average businesses see linux as a valid enough OS so they switch all their workstations to it. Then, with time, the same effect as with office/windows will happens: if you use an application at work/school, you'll want to use it at home because you feel confortable. For the games, the same effect will happen: the more user will have linux at home, the more game will be compatible.
Life is mostly a really slow snowball effect, but when the ball begin to get speed, it's hard to make them stop. We're still in the middle of the windows snowball effect, unless M$ begin acting stupid (wich I doubt), it will take lots of time to reverse the mouvement. Isn't it funny to see M$ FUD directly aimed at small business?
*From http://www.top500.org/:
2000: 5.60% share of linux
2004: 56,40% share of linux
2007: 75.20% share of linux
You missed a big point: they are back online EVEN if their servers are still holded. You can remnove the hardware, but you can't prevent TPB to get back from the grave.
Now let's do a real system: a cluster of database. One server is in Russia, on in Australia, one in Canada, let's add one in China, one in North Korea, one in Iran and well one in the USA... Pretty hard to close them all.
I already imagine RIAA going to Iran or North Korea to require them to remove the site.
I'd say a legal hole: they didn't "link" to the site, they just named it.
Same as:
get this file here! (here being a url to the site holding the file)
vs
You know that file can be found on this site (no link).
One is "helping" others get the file, the second is more like telling a fact.
My opinion tough, far from a lawyer;)
For them it doesn't matter. Sold to you, sold to the reseller... what's the difference? Do I care if you use the car I sold you, I have your money.
Marketing has his own way to see facts... as the/.ers
Well hosting his own works raise a lot of troubles, and some can't be resolved:
1) Domain: Not everyone hold a domain or a static IP that people can use to contact their site. Even if free solutions exists, it needs a little bit of knowledge to set it up and to discover them.
3) Setting a _AMP solution for a normal user would mean exposing his computer. Most people use windows and as we know that it doesn't last long unprotected: (http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/54201306). Would you let your local photograph secure your computer?
4) 24/7 computer usage mean electricity bill raise. I know most of/. users are leaving their computer(s) opened 24/7, but let's not forget we're the exeption, not the rule.
5) Bring the people: what's the point of loading your pictures on the net if nobody watch them? Pretty useless isn't it?
Even tought I agree that it's best ot keep our own stuff under our control, some people can't, for lots of reason, do so. What's the best solution for them? Watermarking. Professional cameras* should come with a way to upload a watermark and insert it automatically in all taken picture. That way, if you know your work is used by another one, all you have to do is show them the watermark. Would still require some knowledge to use but if the app is done correctly, could be pretty easy to use. Mix that to a fingerprint scanner and your watermark become your fingerprint: pretty hard to prove the picture is yours when it's marked with someone else fingerprint.
Don't forget that 75% of the top 500 super computers (around 500K processors) run over that same non-existant OS. Really wonder where he got his "67% of the servers" stat. Especially since I don't know much company that would openly say "We currently hold X servers, Y run on windows and Z run on Linux/Unix".
How dare you show American purists they're the exception, not the rule!
My vote goes for Gordon for his good taste in movie: 'spanking nannies 3, the return of mistress oblivion' is a novel.
Schools should play the "We've got law students galore, just itching for something to work on" card.
Make that a lay student project or something like that and you'll get plenty of cheap lawyers. So cheap they actually pay you!
Keeping the same IP doesn't mean they keep record of who had that IP. Afaik, when using DHCP, you're assigned with a timed lease. When that lease end and you're not connected, then the address is released and when you'll log back, your system may ask for the old address. If it's still unassigned, the server will give it back to you, but if it was assigned meanwhile, you'll get a new one. That's why you can keep the same addresse for a year.
See chapter 3.2 of DHCP RFC for more info.
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You can all bow to me, as I can grow hop and brew BEER! This is probably the only sure thing about a post-apocalyptic world: people will still want to get wasted to forget
Okay, english is my second language so I'll hope people will be able to follow. It will never be a race to "zero". Everything in life has a price, either in work time or in money. Yet, if we talk about a software company as a business model (selling software), then YES your software will eventually sell for "nothing". What you will sell is more on the consultant business model than the old factoring model. Instead of selling a software, you will sell the knowledge to develop a software. No matter what happens, you can be sure that the companies won't leave their business running alone. Let's imagine a word without any OS running. Well, you can be sure that a company will go "hey! I need that piece of metal to be usefull". They'll do a simple analysis: what is the more cost effective between paying people to do the old paperwork or paying someone to develop an OS. The answer is: paying someone to do the paperwork for short term. Yet, let's say you're a BIG company and that you know that company B is in the same situation, as is company C,D and E. Well if you all group together and pay company F to develop a software, the total price will be lower. You split the prices with other company and you create an OS. Then again, you always want to lower your prices to make more money. What you do? You go see company I, J and K to help fund the development. But company B,C,D and E also did the same, so know you're about 30 paying for the development. Cost gets lower, company F makes the same amount of money and the development goes on. That's where a "perfect" OSS model would tend to. Now, will that happens? The answer is simple: IBM is behind linux Sun is going with open Solaris Novell is behind linux IBM, Sun, Novell... aren't they the "old school" computer companies? It's not generalized yet, cause we need a really important player for that to happens: MS. But they know it too much: their model is dead, they're only trying to buy time (OOXML) before it is too late, which is EXACTLY what I would've done, as everyone of us ;)
As simple as that: it's pure capitalism. They know their economy is a total shit, so they take money off other countries to keep surviving. Want to fight it? Take free software when you can, and pirate them enough so they'll have a drop in their prices to get the market. When they'll understand they can't continue to fraud people of other country they'll adjust the price. But as long as you keep buying it, they'll continue.
Speaking from experience I can tell you that an "opt-in" program would never collect enough data to be useful.
Not really, everyone know most people doesn't read all pop-ups and only click next/yes when installing. Make a checkbox "I want to share hardware information with the company in order to help develop better games" enabled by default and you'll have lot of hits. It's quite like the EULA, except that you actually have a 1 liner (not hidden) and it can be deactivated without having to drop the game.
Yes, that's why my mommy always told me: "Honey, if you want to know if your friend has a new game, ask him. No need to brek in his house and search his underwears."
I'd say chill out. If they want to pay you for doing nothing, well do nothing. Don't go in the vendetta part, just .. do nothing. As someone stated, if something breaks, say you don't have access anymore so you can't help. If they don't ask question do NOT provide the information by yourself.
I have a rule: have as much loyalty for your bosses as they have for you. If they sent a notice like "Due to oue firm policy, your account will be suspended in order to blablabla" then it would be fine trade. Cutting without notice is like telling you they don't trust you. they think you will leave some kind of virus/trojan horse in the system and don't want it to happen (I know it since it's what is being tought in some security courses).
So do whatever you want. If you really want to send a message, get a book to work, put your feet on the desk and read all day long in front of your co-workers. Just make sure they know that you do WANT to help, but just CAN'T help because the company no longer trust you. That will hurt the company even more than anything else you could imagine and you keep the good part: you didn't do anything wrong, just stated the truth: the company prevent you from working.
I didn't read lots of replies so it may already been stated. What comcast is doing is simple network engeneering. Using a "burst" architeture allow to quickly send small files, at the detriments of long one. Why doing so? simple QoS. It's an easy way to create some degre of QoS without having to introduce more complex technologies. Just think about what are "small" vs "long" files: Small: multimedia using UDP (VoIP,streaming), Web Pages, text emails, instant messenger, most games. In fact mostly what people use their connection for. Long: Email attachments, file downloads, "torrents" Most people can wait for their downloads 2-3 minutes more, but you just can NOT wait a second for a multimedia paquet to arrive. So by doing a "burst" strategy, they give "priority" on small files which doesn't congest your network for long, while slowing the long files that congest everything for quite a time. It's about the same as cars vs buses. By giving more speed/priority to the cars vs the buses, you allow more vehicule to use your road over time. Even if the amount of data transmitted is lower, the amount of different data is higher.
Working on that right now! Soon on your PC the new way to feel like if you were there!
But on a serious part, the main trouble with show/CD is that with the current model, Labels make money on CDs to promote the group on radios so people go see the show and give omney to the bands. So cuting the CDs will in fact cut the money on the labels, wich promote the group on your local radio. And if you don't hear the music, you don't do see the show.
That's the dinosaur way of thinking. So in their point of view, we're killing them, and they tell bands that we kill them. BUT What they don't see is that we juste remove the labels from the line. The new model should be:
Band make music, Band sell/give away in music networks that allow to "Get music like [put band you already downloaded]" feature. Since the music is free/cheap you WILL try music (no money lost mean more chance to try new stuff). And then, site/band can then promote their shows with people that actually downloaded the music. The only thing you need is getting enough traffic so advertisers pay you enough so oyu can provide the service for free for both the bands and the users. Who will pay for the fees? The advertisers. The perfect pattern would be : free recording expertise for bands, free promotion via the site, and free music for the buyer. The show is where the band get the money back, without interference.
Labels just forgot something really important in their business: the client is neither the buyer nor the band, they both are. Right now they tryed to make money over both of them: screw the bands AND the buyer. Result: NiN leaving, Madonna leaving, Radiohead leaving and sells droping.
That'd be the best way, yet it's totally incompatible with the old business model from big company: Force customer to buy my crap by bashing all competition instead of giving a better service. Some of the big business forgot something important: you live because you give somthing the customer wants. They tryed to force people to stay retarded, and they'll lose in the long run if they don't evolve. To make a parallel with the car industry: record industry would still sell horses while we have cars.
cjb.net and dynDNS.org offer domain mail forwarding. Mean if you want to register the free domain paranoid.cjb.net, you own *@paranoid.cjb.net : should give enough emails ;)
Nice comment. It exactly express thw way we need to see OS: they are tools and we use wichever is the most usefull for our work. I would't use a screwdriver to repaint my new bedroom, as I wouldn't run a JBoss server on windows.
But I don't mind using windows to listen to DVDs or play games. Linux users tend to forget the whole OS is based on a SERVER OS, not a desktop. If they want to really be proud of their OS, they should go on http://www.top500.org/* and see the proportion of linux: THAT'S the linux achievement. THAT'S where it was supposed to be.
Now if they want to make it a proper OS for everyone as a desktop, they need to put the efforts so the average businesses see linux as a valid enough OS so they switch all their workstations to it. Then, with time, the same effect as with office/windows will happens: if you use an application at work/school, you'll want to use it at home because you feel confortable. For the games, the same effect will happen: the more user will have linux at home, the more game will be compatible.
Life is mostly a really slow snowball effect, but when the ball begin to get speed, it's hard to make them stop. We're still in the middle of the windows snowball effect, unless M$ begin acting stupid (wich I doubt), it will take lots of time to reverse the mouvement. Isn't it funny to see M$ FUD directly aimed at small business?
*From http://www.top500.org/: 2000: 5.60% share of linux 2004: 56,40% share of linux 2007: 75.20% share of linux
You missed a big point: they are back online EVEN if their servers are still holded. You can remnove the hardware, but you can't prevent TPB to get back from the grave. Now let's do a real system: a cluster of database. One server is in Russia, on in Australia, one in Canada, let's add one in China, one in North Korea, one in Iran and well one in the USA... Pretty hard to close them all. I already imagine RIAA going to Iran or North Korea to require them to remove the site.
I'd say a legal hole: they didn't "link" to the site, they just named it. Same as: get this file here! (here being a url to the site holding the file) vs You know that file can be found on this site (no link). One is "helping" others get the file, the second is more like telling a fact. My opinion tough, far from a lawyer ;)
For them it doesn't matter. Sold to you, sold to the reseller... what's the difference? Do I care if you use the car I sold you, I have your money. /.ers
Marketing has his own way to see facts... as the
Well hosting his own works raise a lot of troubles, and some can't be resolved:
2 23_38446855_1_1_1_1,00.html#Data2005) it doesn't mean there is no restriction on the amount of data that can be sent and received per month. Increasing would require more money.
/. users are leaving their computer(s) opened 24/7, but let's not forget we're the exeption, not the rule.
1) Domain: Not everyone hold a domain or a static IP that people can use to contact their site. Even if free solutions exists, it needs a little bit of knowledge to set it up and to discover them.
2) Internet connection: even if Iceland is 3th on the broadband penetration (http://www.oecd.org/document/7/0,2340,en_2649_34
3) Setting a _AMP solution for a normal user would mean exposing his computer. Most people use windows and as we know that it doesn't last long unprotected: (http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/54201306). Would you let your local photograph secure your computer?
4) 24/7 computer usage mean electricity bill raise. I know most of
5) Bring the people: what's the point of loading your pictures on the net if nobody watch them? Pretty useless isn't it?
Even tought I agree that it's best ot keep our own stuff under our control, some people can't, for lots of reason, do so. What's the best solution for them? Watermarking. Professional cameras* should come with a way to upload a watermark and insert it automatically in all taken picture. That way, if you know your work is used by another one, all you have to do is show them the watermark. Would still require some knowledge to use but if the app is done correctly, could be pretty easy to use. Mix that to a fingerprint scanner and your watermark become your fingerprint: pretty hard to prove the picture is yours when it's marked with someone else fingerprint.
* May already exists
Don't forget that 75% of the top 500 super computers (around 500K processors) run over that same non-existant OS. Really wonder where he got his "67% of the servers" stat. Especially since I don't know much company that would openly say "We currently hold X servers, Y run on windows and Z run on Linux/Unix".
http://www.top500.org/stats/28/osfam
How dare you show American purists they're the exception, not the rule!
My vote goes for Gordon for his good taste in movie: 'spanking nannies 3, the return of mistress oblivion' is a novel.
Make that a lay student project or something like that and you'll get plenty of cheap lawyers. So cheap they actually pay you!
Keeping the same IP doesn't mean they keep record of who had that IP. Afaik, when using DHCP, you're assigned with a timed lease. When that lease end and you're not connected, then the address is released and when you'll log back, your system may ask for the old address. If it's still unassigned, the server will give it back to you, but if it was assigned meanwhile, you'll get a new one. That's why you can keep the same addresse for a year.
See chapter 3.2 of DHCP RFC for more info.