Enrollment may be up, but graduation is down according to the article. If this is true, this poses an even more interesting question: Why are more students failing or switching majors?
Difficulty, pay, job quality (benefits), public image of techonology? I find my high technology job rewarding and enjoyable. Perhaps it is becuase of the quality of the graduates. But supposedly unemployment is very low.
Makes you wonder
~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
One of the questions I keep hearing over and over is, "Where do I start?" So I decided to put together a list of resources that I've checked out personally and feel comfortable recommending so you can understand the Y2K problem and the implications for us as women -- whether we're single women, wives, grandmothers, sisters or whatever role we happen to be in. (These include my own products as well, including my new book Y2K for Women: How to Protect Your Home and Family in the Coming Crisis.)
Taken next to a picture of her book. Now you know what the web page is about. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
When people talk about gun control and how it would make a better future, I think of the following:
If eliminating guns is supposed to make life better for everyone, why not ban cars becuase of drunk drivers (or perhaps ban driving during night time)? If a law abiding citizen is denied the use or ownership of a gun because of someone else breaking the law involving a gun, it should follow that safe drivers should not be allowed to drive cars because there is a possibility of someone driving drunk. A car is after all a guided projectile and a drunk driver with a car is an unguided projectile.
Sit back and think how that would solve the problem. With no cars, how can you have a car wreck? The world must then be safer. Now realize that if cars are banned, do you really expect that everyone will simply stop using their car? No. It just makes EVERYONE a criminal. So instead of making the world safer, the world is just as dangerous or worse, but everyone is now a criminal. So what did we accomplish? Nothing, except denying law abinding citizens the privilege to drive a car.
To me, this is ignorance. Cars and guns are inherently dangerous. The root of the problem is people who drive drunk, or people who seek revenge by shooting someone. The problem is not the car or gun itself. Until people can make this distinction, there will always be this ingnorance. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
"Jupiter-sized" planets at about the equivalent orbits of Venus, Earth, and Mars does not make a similar solar system. It might make a planetary system.
The theory for the beginning of our solar system uses the assumption that the more dense materials coagulated into the inner "rocky" planets, where as the less dense gases coagulated into the outer gas giants. This new planetary system seams to put this theory on its head.
And, life as we know it would not exist in such a planetary systm, since no Earth sized planet could exist at the proper orbit with these large planets forcing their weight on their neighbors.
So to say this new planetary system is like our own, is not a fair statement. IMHO. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
There's more in-house software development at U.S. IT units, he said, which often leads to "greater redundancies" in application development among various business units.
Why hasn't anyone mentioned this before? This would have been the best place to mention Open Source. Alas, the author may not know about it since he mostly writes about Y2K problems for CNN. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
This is a submission that didn't make it to/.. CNN has an article on this Internet 'fridge that tracks your supplies with bar codes. Read the article for more info. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Or it could be the last minute, which make it ambiguous. So if you see 12am today, does that mean 12am this morning, or is it 12am tonight?
In other words, you could possibly watch the Star Wars movie 24 hours later than you thought.
See the FAQ I listed before. I personally stick with the 24-hour clock. Then it's brainless. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
I did a similar calculation, but based on BG's total worth, wich was near $70billion (and I don't think that is total either). But based on total worth and $20million donation, this is the equivalent of me donating $20 (if I inflate my total worth considerably). FWIW: I do donate more than that per week, so I feel proud.
Just wish I could name a building now. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
...for a film producer to run your theater business? I can agree maybe with Lucas' reasoning for the limitations, but theaters need to make money too. So why can't they "cash in"?
So a theater has 30minutes of trailers in front of the film. People will either ask for their money back or go to another theater. The theater needs to make money after all, so the theater will do what the market will bear. This is a free market for gosh sakes.
Let's not get into the Microsoft way of doing things, just because you can. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
I curious to know what the comments/articles loaded ratio typically is, and what my value is. I consider myself a lurker. But am I very lurker or little lurker? Also, how is this ratio calculated. Does it apply for the past two weeks, month, or since your account inception?
I think the moderation feature is great and getting better. Some articles have many comments, that if I read them all, I probably would be fired.
~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
The Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is preferred over the use of GMT. At least Lucas specified 12:01am instead of 12:00am, which is ambiguous. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Funny, I heard the Lucent logo is called the "flaming asshole". Maybe this was a disgruntled employee, who knows. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Just last week I was telling someone about SGI's cool logo and that I thought it was the best. Now they change their logo to a simple lowercase script of their name, SGI?
Perhaps I sould read the press release and find some insite into what image they want to protray. I guessed it would have been a high technology type of imagine. Oh well, I guess they have something else planned.
~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Just what I need. I reliable system to increase the number of unsolicited calls I get every evening when I'm eating dinner.
I wonder how long it will be before that happens? I'm not sure what systems are used now, but they can't be cheap.
Maybe I can set up my box to call them back? Or at least filter out the unsolicited calls or maybe even have preprogrammed answers to use up their time. Now there are some ideas.:)
~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
"But OSS has a fatal flaw: it is based on a false theory of production. For the sake of an imagined voluntary cooperative, OSS rejects free market competition and loses the market's distinct advantages to meet consumer needs with quality products and targeted marketing. In a free market, identifiable manufacturers own the product. They are responsible for product performance, and they can be held liable for inexcusable flaws."
OSS rejects free market competition. What free market is Patrick talking about? Isn't free choice a "free market". Where in OSS does it force users to use particular software? IMHO, free market means free choice. Therefore, I can use any OSS software I feel is necessary and apply it to my needs. For proprietary software, is there a "free market"? I say yes; I can coose any software that comes closest to my budget and needs. However, I would not be free to have any software to my specifics needs. Therefore, I don't understand Patrick's conclusion that "...OSS rejects free market competition and loses the market's distinct advantages to meet consumer needs with quality products and targeted marketing". There is no "distinct advantage" any where in proprietary software in meeting consumer needs.
[Manufacturers] are responsible for product performance, and they can be held liable for inexcusable flaws. I have not seen any examples of this. Who has ever sued Microsoft over "inexcusable flaws"? I don't see this argument as being a fatal flaw either. How can a company like Microsoft ever meet consumer needs with such a diverse group? OSS seams to fit that better, in that anyone can modify the source to fit the real needs of a consumer. So not everyone is a "hacker". Support can fit this role very nicely. If I don't want an in-house software group, I can hire a support company. They can modify the source as they see fit. If I dislike their service, I can go to another support provider and keep the software (and the ex-support company can too for that matter) and not loose in a long adjustment period. To me, this is flexibility which is not a fatal flaw rather the Golden Egg.
I only read half the article and got bored with it. If I contradict the author in my context, please post them! ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
don't get fixed. If M$ lost the source code, you can't very well fix and improve it! But, you can ADD to it. Hmmm.
I haven't read through all of the comments here yet, but my impression is that the M$ Windows is stuck in it's own paradigm, that it would be difficult to move in another direction than M$ has been taking it. I feel that Linux so much farther ahead and designed in a better paradigm (IMHO) that there is not much motivation to look into the Windows source (aside from curiousity reasons).
I'm curious to know how long it would take some other company (already established or startup) to learn the source code and develop a new Windows "distribution". Is that really possible? Will people really buy it if it doesn't look the same as M$-Windows? ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
that just make me wonder how Gore is even a possible Democratic candidate.
I'm still upset that he wants to launch a satellite with only a camera to overlook earth so anyone on the Internet can look at our planet at any time. Let's at least include SOME real science on the mission.
And if we can afford something like that, why does much of ISS's science budget have to be severely reduced after Clinton's redesigns....
Yes, I'm venting, but Gore just seams like a waste of attention. This just has to be embarassing for the Democratic party. And I thought they already plenty. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Wit h all these obvious April Fools Jokes, it's like being bombarded with so much disinformation that you can't tell what's real and what's not, even though it should be obvious.
Uh, this happens everyday. You always should take the news with a grain of salt or silicon and use your best judgement. How many times have we had these 'disinformation' type discussions here at Slashdot alone on non-April Fool's days?
Treat the news as Flame Bait. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Quoting Masem: While I am probably being paranoid and overly sceptical, it's way too convinent that the Win98 ID bug, only uncovered recently, is suddenly going to be the life saver for solving the Melissa problem.
The M$ GUID will not solve the Melissa virus from spreading. That will go on as long as one person has not taken the proper precautions.
All the GUID does is help catch the criminal who created the virus (assuming the GUID is accurate and was not forged).
Actually, the GUID creates more problems. If you want to help solve crimes in a similar manner, it would be beneficial to have wire taps and other eavesdropping devices in everyone's home. That way, if anyone in the United States mentions terrorism, they can be promptly arrested for plotting terrorist acts.
All the GUID is is Big Bro looking over your shoulder. That's not a comfortable feeling for me.
This latest development will certainly put privacy issues in regards to electronic forums to the forefront again.
~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Re: partitioning Is is me or is Andrew Shuman suggesting that if he bought a computer preinstalled with Linux and wanted to install Windows95/98, he would not have to "repartition" and reformat the hard drive? I will agree with most everyone else that a fair comparison would be two computers preinstalled with the respective OS.
Re: graceful crashes ...It also has a solid multithreading and multitasking model, meaning that one errant program can't bring the whole computer to its knees. (This is a feature Linux shares with Windows NT, but not with Windows 95/98.)
Although NT doesn't crash as often for me at work, any time it does, I have to physically cycle the power of my machine to get running again.
Re: running heritage software Perhaps the greatest technological feature that Windows possesses is that it can handle programs as old as the first DOS applications. Linux will never do that.
WHAT software can Linux not run (I thinking UNIX heritage)? As long as one has the source code, I don't see why the software can't be compiled on Linux. Old DOS applications still run on NT? Sort of. I still have to use old DOS apps for my work, and there is a large performance penalty (and it doesn't function as well in the NT environment, i.e. I need to run it in full screen to work correctly. Ugh). If Andrew is suggesting Linux will never run DOS apps, what's the point? Even so, I thought there is WINE.
Anyone feel free to correct my viewpoints. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
"Ironically, with a graphical environment very similar to Windows or the Mac, Linux's command-line and scripting interface will perhaps soon emerge as a major selling point for advanced users. Windows and Macintosh treat all users alike, irrespective of skill level, and do not allow users to acquire more control over their machines with increasing experience. Unix and Unix-like systems, on the other hand, "scale" extremely well with experience, rewarding advanced users with dramatically greater productivity.
This has been my pro argument for Linux for a long while. I like the power of unix and the amount of customization. But I often find GUIs too darned clunky and difficult to use for certain tasks. The best method is to open multiple shells in a window manager to do your work. The best of both worlds scenario.
But for those folks who like the pure point and click, it's available (or will be). I don't think one can ever argue against GUIs, but rather one can argue against getting rid of the CLI. That won't happen in Linux.
I have to work with NT at work and I very much miss the "scalability" to use more CLI than GUI. Alas, that will not happen in NT. ~afniv "Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
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Enrollment may be up, but graduation is down according to the article. If this is true, this poses an even more interesting question: Why are more students failing or switching majors?
Difficulty, pay, job quality (benefits), public image of techonology? I find my high technology job rewarding and enjoyable. Perhaps it is becuase of the quality of the graduates. But supposedly unemployment is very low.
Makes you wonder
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
You missed the relevent part of her web page:
One of the questions I keep hearing over and over is, "Where do I start?" So I decided to put together a list of resources that I've checked out personally and feel comfortable recommending so you can understand the Y2K problem and the implications for us as women -- whether we're single women, wives, grandmothers, sisters or whatever role we happen to be in. (These include my own products as well, including my new book Y2K for Women: How to Protect Your Home and Family in the Coming Crisis.)
Taken next to a picture of her book. Now you know what the web page is about.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
When people talk about gun control and how it would make a better future, I think of the following:
If eliminating guns is supposed to make life better for everyone, why not ban cars becuase of drunk drivers (or perhaps ban driving during night time)? If a law abiding citizen is denied the use or ownership of a gun because of someone else breaking the law involving a gun, it should follow that safe drivers should not be allowed to drive cars because there is a possibility of someone driving drunk. A car is after all a guided projectile and a drunk driver with a car is an unguided projectile.
Sit back and think how that would solve the problem. With no cars, how can you have a car wreck? The world must then be safer. Now realize that if cars are banned, do you really expect that everyone will simply stop using their car? No. It just makes EVERYONE a criminal. So instead of making the world safer, the world is just as dangerous or worse, but everyone is now a criminal. So what did we accomplish? Nothing, except denying law abinding citizens the privilege to drive a car.
To me, this is ignorance. Cars and guns are inherently dangerous. The root of the problem is people who drive drunk, or people who seek revenge by shooting someone. The problem is not the car or gun itself. Until people can make this distinction, there will always be this ingnorance.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
"Jupiter-sized" planets at about the equivalent orbits of Venus, Earth, and Mars does not make a similar solar system. It might make a planetary system.
The theory for the beginning of our solar system uses the assumption that the more dense materials coagulated into the inner "rocky" planets, where as the less dense gases coagulated into the outer gas giants. This new planetary system seams to put this theory on its head.
And, life as we know it would not exist in such a planetary systm, since no Earth sized planet could exist at the proper orbit with these large planets forcing their weight on their neighbors.
So to say this new planetary system is like our own, is not a fair statement. IMHO.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Why hasn't anyone mentioned this before? This would have been the best place to mention Open Source. Alas, the author may not know about it since he mostly writes about Y2K problems for CNN.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
This is a submission that didn't make it to /.. CNN has an article on this Internet 'fridge that tracks your supplies with bar codes. Read the article for more info.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Or it could be the last minute, which make it ambiguous. So if you see 12am today, does that mean 12am this morning, or is it 12am tonight?
In other words, you could possibly watch the Star Wars movie 24 hours later than you thought.
See the FAQ I listed before. I personally stick with the 24-hour clock. Then it's brainless.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
...for the first or primary search engine Slashdotter's use?
:)
I use Google myself and then MegaCrawler then InferenceFind. But I rarely need to go past Google.
So when will the poll be up?
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
at University of Colorado. And I have yet to touch the stuff.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
I did a similar calculation, but based on BG's total worth, wich was near $70billion (and I don't think that is total either). But based on total worth and $20million donation, this is the equivalent of me donating $20 (if I inflate my total worth considerably). FWIW: I do donate more than that per week, so I feel proud.
Just wish I could name a building now.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
...for a film producer to run your theater business? I can agree maybe with Lucas' reasoning for the limitations, but theaters need to make money too. So why can't they "cash in"?
So a theater has 30minutes of trailers in front of the film. People will either ask for their money back or go to another theater. The theater needs to make money after all, so the theater will do what the market will bear. This is a free market for gosh sakes.
Let's not get into the Microsoft way of doing things, just because you can.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
I curious to know what the comments/articles loaded ratio typically is, and what my value is. I consider myself a lurker. But am I very lurker or little lurker? Also, how is this ratio calculated. Does it apply for the past two weeks, month, or since your account inception?
I think the moderation feature is great and getting better. Some articles have many comments, that if I read them all, I probably would be fired.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
The Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is preferred over the use of GMT. At least Lucas specified 12:01am instead of 12:00am, which is ambiguous.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Funny, I heard the Lucent logo is called the "flaming asshole". Maybe this was a disgruntled employee, who knows.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Just last week I was telling someone about SGI's cool logo and that I thought it was the best. Now they change their logo to a simple lowercase script of their name, SGI?
Perhaps I sould read the press release and find some insite into what image they want to protray. I guessed it would have been a high technology type of imagine. Oh well, I guess they have something else planned.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Just what I need. I reliable system to increase the number of unsolicited calls I get every evening when I'm eating dinner.
:)
I wonder how long it will be before that happens? I'm not sure what systems are used now, but they can't be cheap.
Maybe I can set up my box to call them back? Or at least filter out the unsolicited calls or maybe even have preprogrammed answers to use up their time. Now there are some ideas.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
OSS rejects free market competition.
What free market is Patrick talking about? Isn't free choice a "free market". Where in OSS does it force users to use particular software? IMHO, free market means free choice. Therefore, I can use any OSS software I feel is necessary and apply it to my needs. For proprietary software, is there a "free market"? I say yes; I can coose any software that comes closest to my budget and needs. However, I would not be free to have any software to my specifics needs. Therefore, I don't understand Patrick's conclusion that "...OSS rejects free market competition and loses the market's distinct advantages to meet consumer needs with quality products and targeted marketing". There is no "distinct advantage" any where in proprietary software in meeting consumer needs.
[Manufacturers] are responsible for product performance, and they can be held liable for inexcusable flaws.
I have not seen any examples of this. Who has ever sued Microsoft over "inexcusable flaws"? I don't see this argument as being a fatal flaw either. How can a company like Microsoft ever meet consumer needs with such a diverse group? OSS seams to fit that better, in that anyone can modify the source to fit the real needs of a consumer. So not everyone is a "hacker". Support can fit this role very nicely. If I don't want an in-house software group, I can hire a support company. They can modify the source as they see fit. If I dislike their service, I can go to another support provider and keep the software (and the ex-support company can too for that matter) and not loose in a long adjustment period. To me, this is flexibility which is not a fatal flaw rather the Golden Egg.
I only read half the article and got bored with it. If I contradict the author in my context, please post them!
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
don't get fixed. If M$ lost the source code, you can't very well fix and improve it! But, you can ADD to it. Hmmm.
I haven't read through all of the comments here yet, but my impression is that the M$ Windows is stuck in it's own paradigm, that it would be difficult to move in another direction than M$ has been taking it. I feel that Linux so much farther ahead and designed in a better paradigm (IMHO) that there is not much motivation to look into the Windows source (aside from curiousity reasons).
I'm curious to know how long it would take some other company (already established or startup) to learn the source code and develop a new Windows "distribution". Is that really possible? Will people really buy it if it doesn't look the same as M$-Windows?
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
that just make me wonder how Gore is even a possible Democratic candidate.
I'm still upset that he wants to launch a satellite with only a camera to overlook earth so anyone on the Internet can look at our planet at any time. Let's at least include SOME real science on the mission.
And if we can afford something like that, why does much of ISS's science budget have to be severely reduced after Clinton's redesigns....
Yes, I'm venting, but Gore just seams like a waste of attention. This just has to be embarassing for the Democratic party. And I thought they already plenty.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Check out 197801.htm. I wonder how much pressure that exerts?
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Wit h all these obvious April Fools Jokes, it's like being bombarded with so much disinformation that you can't tell what's real and what's not, even though it should be obvious.
Uh, this happens everyday. You always should take the news with a grain of salt or silicon and use your best judgement. How many times have we had these 'disinformation' type discussions here at Slashdot alone on non-April Fool's days?
Treat the news as Flame Bait.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Quoting Masem:
While I am probably being paranoid and overly sceptical, it's way too convinent that the Win98 ID bug, only uncovered recently, is suddenly going to be the life saver for solving the Melissa problem.
The M$ GUID will not solve the Melissa virus from spreading. That will go on as long as one person has not taken the proper precautions.
All the GUID does is help catch the criminal who created the virus (assuming the GUID is accurate and was not forged).
Actually, the GUID creates more problems. If you want to help solve crimes in a similar manner, it would be beneficial to have wire taps and other eavesdropping devices in everyone's home. That way, if anyone in the United States mentions terrorism, they can be promptly arrested for plotting terrorist acts.
All the GUID is is Big Bro looking over your shoulder. That's not a comfortable feeling for me.
This latest development will certainly put privacy issues in regards to electronic forums to the forefront again.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
Re: partitioning
...It also has a solid multithreading and multitasking model, meaning that one errant program can't bring the whole computer to its knees. (This is a feature Linux shares with Windows NT, but not with Windows 95/98.)
Is is me or is Andrew Shuman suggesting that if he bought a computer preinstalled with Linux and wanted to install Windows95/98, he would not have to "repartition" and reformat the hard drive? I will agree with most everyone else that a fair comparison would be two computers preinstalled with the respective OS.
Re: graceful crashes
Although NT doesn't crash as often for me at work, any time it does, I have to physically cycle the power of my machine to get running again.
Re: running heritage software
Perhaps the greatest technological feature that Windows possesses is that it can handle programs as old as the first DOS applications. Linux will never do that.
WHAT software can Linux not run (I thinking UNIX heritage)? As long as one has the source code, I don't see why the software can't be compiled on Linux. Old DOS applications still run on NT? Sort of. I still have to use old DOS apps for my work, and there is a large performance penalty (and it doesn't function as well in the NT environment, i.e. I need to run it in full screen to work correctly. Ugh). If Andrew is suggesting Linux will never run DOS apps, what's the point? Even so, I thought there is WINE.
Anyone feel free to correct my viewpoints.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
What does the first A stand for?
And why isn't it TINSTAAFL (There Is No Such Thing As A Free Lunch)?
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"
"Ironically, with a graphical environment very similar to Windows or the Mac, Linux's command-line and scripting interface will perhaps soon emerge as a major selling point for advanced users. Windows and Macintosh treat all users alike, irrespective of skill level, and do not allow users to acquire more control over their machines with increasing experience. Unix and Unix-like systems, on the other hand, "scale" extremely well with experience, rewarding advanced users with dramatically greater productivity.
This has been my pro argument for Linux for a long while. I like the power of unix and the amount of customization. But I often find GUIs too darned clunky and difficult to use for certain tasks. The best method is to open multiple shells in a window manager to do your work. The best of both worlds scenario.
But for those folks who like the pure point and click, it's available (or will be). I don't think one can ever argue against GUIs, but rather one can argue against getting rid of the CLI. That won't happen in Linux.
I have to work with NT at work and I very much miss the "scalability" to use more CLI than GUI. Alas, that will not happen in NT.
~afniv
"Man könnte froh sein, wenn die Luft so rein wäre wie das Bier"