A new local radio station did a month of ad free radio to grab an audience in an area with a lot of local radio. It was the coolest radio ever! I had no idea how intrusive ads were until there were none.
I would love to subscribe to ad free radio or tv, however, ad free internet is still something I am not quite ready to go for yet.
It would mean a *commitment* to checking out a page often enough to get my money's worth, and I have a low attention span. I even go months without reading slashdot.org, because I find other things online to read. The internet has thousands of pages to pick from! I still listen to that radio station, now wiht ads, because there are only about 10 other stations to pick from.
However, the recourse seems obvious: spam! Imagine what is going to happen if a system receives thousands of provably false denunciations...
I even encourage geeks and nerds, goths and punks to launch a (nation-wide?) pre-emptive strike: if you are in high school, grab a list of all the jocks and football players and denounce them...
Although I enjoy the thought of spam being used for good and not evil that is the completely incorrect way of handeling Pinkerton
I don't think ambushing a group of individuals in a particular social group that you don't happen to belong to makes you a better person than those individuals you percieve as a potention threat, those who would turn in geeks. We don't know geeks would be the main target of the WAVE project, we are only speculating that they would be. For all we know geeks really are invisable to the rest of the school.
However spaming them with names of people who do not exisit, ie John Doe at New Minas Middle School, would be a much more anoying use of spam and wouldn't hurt innocent people who don't happen to be geeks.
Of course, I notice the unique capitalist twist on having this be a for-profit endeavor. Will we see competing companies viying for who can turn in more kids?
What do you do with the children/information when you have it, where is the profit coming from?
Possible sources:
Blackmail rich parents of "weird" children to deleate information
Create "Schools" (not prisons wink wink) that children with large files have to go to.
Good god! I'd think of more but my brain hurts at the mere thought of something so dangerous and stupid and illogical could possibly become reality! What kind of social structure would you have to have in place where this becomes the "lesser evil" alternative!
The thought of having a database to report good people probably never occured to anyone either
Someone out there should be ashamed of themselves.
Little Sister
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Maybe it is just spring in the air but wouldn't it be nice to watch love blossom in that unlikely way? Or rather watch natural selection blossom in that way?
As a counter example, I recently helped my sister (a graphic design major) put a site on line. She used dreamweaver to build her site. Dreamweaver created the entire site in images and flash!
What? I use Macromedia Dreamweaver 2 and Macomedia Flash 4 (2 seperate programs) and this seems physically impossible to me. Dreamweaver is a HTML (or JavaScript) generator not a graphics prgram and Flash is well something different entirely.
I don't think you know what you are talking about. I don't comprehend your statement enough to recreate your error.
If you created the entire web page using Flash 4, Dreamweaver isn't going to pick out the text for you.
At its geeky core, the Net still feels like a clubhouse - male, white, narrow.
I have never had a problem with being a woman online, I`ve never felt sidelined because I am a woman.
The only time I`ve ever been pissed off is when men try to speak for what women want or when discussion forums like this are used to discuss the animal that is woman (i.e. geek dating advice).
The problem is that on the net most people tend to follow the same patterns, be it to different rules and situations, and most sadly a similar hierachical structure.
Which is ironic because the Internet has such a potential for equalization across all established social groups and structures.
Having a wonderful tool like the Internet opens the flood gates for communication for everyone, regardless of age, life experience, or education level. Ideas can be offered, traded and people have the oportunity to learn from one another.
Unfortunately the process makes it obvious to everyone we are a few common sequences of grunts away from sniffing each others butts for information.
We are not taught to communicate as children for the most part (children being better seen than heard), most of us feel alienated as adults, which is one of the resons we sought out people on to communicate with over the Internet in the first place.
We have a bunch of frustrated, alienated, people who are trying to express themselves in a "crowded room" senerio, where there are obviously a few cliques who run the place. So they start yelling and throwing temper-tantrums.
Well that is one possibility. I used to flame people because it made me feel macho.
I don't think technology's tragity is found with in the number of individuals whose deaths can be atributed to a given technology but within the the belief that technology gives us (and those it touches) imortality.
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A new local radio station did a month of ad free radio to grab an audience in an area with a lot of local radio. It was the coolest radio ever! I had no idea how intrusive ads were until there were none.
I would love to subscribe to ad free radio or tv, however, ad free internet is still something I am not quite ready to go for yet.
It would mean a *commitment* to checking out a page often enough to get my money's worth, and I have a low attention span. I even go months without reading slashdot.org, because I find other things online to read. The internet has thousands of pages to pick from! I still listen to that radio station, now wiht ads, because there are only about 10 other stations to pick from.
-Little Sister
Good lord!
You got all of that from the fact Starbucks is providing a nifty service to its customers?
Try decafe!
I live right across the street from a huge Starbucks and people use laptops in there all the time. I think it is a smart thing for them to do.
-Little Sister
However, the recourse seems obvious: spam! Imagine what is going to happen if a system receives thousands of provably false denunciations...
I even encourage geeks and nerds, goths and punks to launch a (nation-wide?) pre-emptive strike: if you are in high school, grab a list of all the jocks and football players and denounce them...
Although I enjoy the thought of spam being used for good and not evil that is the completely incorrect way of handeling Pinkerton
I don't think ambushing a group of individuals in a particular social group that you don't happen to belong to makes you a better person than those individuals you percieve as a potention threat, those who would turn in geeks. We don't know geeks would be the main target of the WAVE project, we are only speculating that they would be. For all we know geeks really are invisable to the rest of the school.
However spaming them with names of people who do not exisit, ie John Doe at New Minas Middle School, would be a much more anoying use of spam and wouldn't hurt innocent people who don't happen to be geeks.
Little Sister
Would I be interested in working with Pinkertons on WAVE America, or in writing for the site?
This blew my mind!!!! Did they offer you sex or money too? :)
I wish they had answered all the 'what will happen to the data' questions.
Little Sister
What do you do with the children/information when you have it, where is the profit coming from?
Possible sources:
Good god! I'd think of more but my brain hurts at the mere thought of something so dangerous and stupid and illogical could possibly become reality! What kind of social structure would you have to have in place where this becomes the "lesser evil" alternative!
The thought of having a database to report good people probably never occured to anyone either
Someone out there should be ashamed of themselves.
Little Sister
-Little Sister
As a counter example, I recently helped my sister (a graphic design major) put a site on line. She used dreamweaver to build her site. Dreamweaver created the entire site in images and flash!
What? I use Macromedia Dreamweaver 2 and Macomedia Flash 4 (2 seperate programs) and this seems physically impossible to me. Dreamweaver is a HTML (or JavaScript) generator not a graphics prgram and Flash is well something different entirely.
I don't think you know what you are talking about. I don't comprehend your statement enough to recreate your error.
If you created the entire web page using Flash 4, Dreamweaver isn't going to pick out the text for you.
Little Sister
Think of the good things flamers bring!
If there was no flames or flame wars there would be no 'alt.humor.best-of-usenet'
I bet you didn't think about that did you?
Little Sister
I have never had a problem with being a woman online, I`ve never felt sidelined because I am a woman.
The only time I`ve ever been pissed off is when men try to speak for what women want or when discussion forums like this are used to discuss the animal that is woman (i.e. geek dating advice).
Little sister
The problem is that on the net most people tend to follow the same patterns, be it to different rules and situations, and most sadly a similar hierachical structure.
Which is ironic because the Internet has such a potential for equalization across all established social groups and structures.
- Little Sister
Having a wonderful tool like the Internet opens the flood gates for communication for everyone, regardless of age, life experience, or education level. Ideas can be offered, traded and people have the oportunity to learn from one another.
Unfortunately the process makes it obvious to everyone we are a few common sequences of grunts away from sniffing each others butts for information.
We are not taught to communicate as children for the most part (children being better seen than heard), most of us feel alienated as adults, which is one of the resons we sought out people on to communicate with over the Internet in the first place.
We have a bunch of frustrated, alienated, people who are trying to express themselves in a "crowded room" senerio, where there are obviously a few cliques who run the place. So they start yelling and throwing temper-tantrums.
Well that is one possibility. I used to flame people because it made me feel macho.
-Little Sister
*ROTFL*
Good thing you pointed that out to the styerotypically fashion consious readers.
Besides you wouldn't look like a dork wearing one - you'd look like a super hero!
-Little Sister
'Applicants for obligtory side-kick line up here'
I'll take the dulex model and the "Wedding Fun TM" attachments please.......
I don't think technology's tragity is found with in the number of individuals whose deaths can be atributed to a given technology but within the the belief that technology gives us (and those it touches) imortality.
I need to give some advice to academic types who might be reading this thread: which do you prefer, money or happiness?
Why do you have to choose?
I have working knowledge that
Call me naive but I love this industry. I'm academically stimulated, having fun and paid well.
-Little Sister
btw Canadian web designers make between $30-40KI wonder if the exhaust smeels like slug farts.