I am not sure it is wrong for this guy to be punished. Yes jail time is probably not the right way but come on.... He didn't follow the "normal" way to publish a security hole. He sent thousands(if I read correctly) emails to the customers telling them how to break the system. I am involved in the security field, and when I find a hole, I contact the company and try and work with them to fix it. Heck, I am on hold with a company right now. If they don't seem to want to work toward fixing the issue, I publish it to BugTraq or a similar system.
This case appears to be a guy who is angry and using a dangerous means to get back at his previous employer. Then when they cry foul and throw their weight around, everyone bashes them saying how awful, he was just trying to help.
I think we need to rethink the causes we get behind.
Hi- As a company that devotes its entire set of resources toward Linux development, what would you say to a new or existing company to convince them of the vitality of the Linux environment? And would those statements be different? Kevin
Hi- I am a Christogeek as Simeon2000 calls us. And I agree with John Katyz when he talks about most "Christians" today. But I must say that most religions and non-religious beliefs are affected by people saying they believe a certain thing when in fact they pick and choose the parts they want to agree with and ignore the rest. I am hurt and bothered every time I see some one you Christ to raise money for themselves, to belittle someone who doesn't believe as they do, and all the other horrible things that so called Christians do. But it bothers me how people will jump on any person who says something bad about the so called Christians and call them anti-religion. Kevin
The blurb mentions that this will keep the idea locked into court for a while. This is actually a good thing. The longer it takes to come to a decision, the longer we have to prove that MP3's are a standard way to move things around. If we can prove that the standard is there and works then it is harder for them to make people stop.
It makes sense that a government would prefer to have their computers run on software designed by people from that country. The story sounds like fact with a little fun thrown in. I can't imagine them calling it Red Flag Linux but I can see them requiring the use of a version of Linux developed by Chinese programmers.
I think that we should really point to perl when people start talking about free software not catching on. This is a program that has been around and is still going strong.
It looks to me that they are rating solely on Ease of Use. Or close to it anyway. I mean, when pico gets 5 penguins, and emacs gets 4? Come on now...
Seron,
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I went roaming the site, admittedly, quite nice, I will be a frequent visitor I'm sure. But a couple things disturbed me. In its kernel area, under source, it has the full Stable 2.0.36 and all it has under devel is 2.2.0pre-6ac1 It only has the ac patch, nothing else.
Also, I think the maintainer doesn't understand the difference between stable and dev in a lot of areas. Under GTK for instance, it only lists one. "Stable:1.1.12".. Someone needs to slap the maintainer with some fresh trout. Do they want stuff like this brought to their attention? I mean right now it looks to me if that doesn't change a lot of newbies are going to be picking up more and more dev stuff, then coming to #linux or #linuxhelp and bugging everyone in there why things are breaking;) And everyone I'm sure agrees that's a bad thing. Although I must admit I learned linux very quickly by constantly breaking and being forced to gruelingly fix things.. So... But then I am more independant, most people break things, freak, panic, run around screaming, and then beg for help..
PPP worked as recently as pre5, then all of a sudden went poof when I went to pre6. I'll probably just back up to pre1 or something. But any ideas on this? I setserial everything correctly like I normally do, and poof. No response from modem.
Hell, I'd rather have a 1 Ghz box that looked like shit, and even smelled like shit. As opposed to one that looks like a flower garden and smells like roses, but only happens to be a 200 Mhz. Gimme power baby!
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I am not sure it is wrong for this guy to be punished. Yes jail time is probably not the right way but come on.... He didn't follow the "normal" way to publish a security hole. He sent thousands(if I read correctly) emails to the customers telling them how to break the system. I am involved in the security field, and when I find a hole, I contact the company and try and work with them to fix it. Heck, I am on hold with a company right now. If they don't seem to want to work toward fixing the issue, I publish it to BugTraq or a similar system.
This case appears to be a guy who is angry and using a dangerous means to get back at his previous employer. Then when they cry foul and throw their weight around, everyone bashes them saying how awful, he was just trying to help.
I think we need to rethink the causes we get behind.
Kevin
Hi- As a company that devotes its entire set of resources toward Linux development, what would you say to a new or existing company to convince them of the vitality of the Linux environment? And would those statements be different? Kevin
Hi- I am a Christogeek as Simeon2000 calls us. And I agree with John Katyz when he talks about most "Christians" today. But I must say that most religions and non-religious beliefs are affected by people saying they believe a certain thing when in fact they pick and choose the parts they want to agree with and ignore the rest. I am hurt and bothered every time I see some one you Christ to raise money for themselves, to belittle someone who doesn't believe as they do, and all the other horrible things that so called Christians do. But it bothers me how people will jump on any person who says something bad about the so called Christians and call them anti-religion. Kevin
The blurb mentions that this will keep the idea locked into court for a while. This is actually a good thing. The longer it takes to come to a decision, the longer we have to prove that MP3's are a standard way to move things around. If we can prove that the standard is there and works then it is harder for them to make people stop.
It makes sense that a government would prefer to have their computers run on software designed by people from that country. The story sounds like fact with a little fun thrown in. I can't imagine them calling it Red Flag Linux but I can see them requiring the use of a version of Linux developed by Chinese programmers.
I think that we should really point to perl when people start talking about free software not catching on. This is a program that has been around and is still going strong.
It looks to me that they are rating solely on Ease of Use. Or close to it anyway. I mean, when pico gets 5 penguins, and emacs gets 4? Come on now...
Seron,
I went roaming the site, admittedly, quite nice, I will be a frequent visitor I'm sure. But a couple things disturbed me. In its kernel area, under source, it has the full Stable 2.0.36 and all it has under devel is 2.2.0pre-6ac1 It only has the ac patch, nothing else.
.. Someone needs to slap the maintainer with some fresh trout. Do they want stuff like this brought to their attention? I mean right now it looks to me if that doesn't change a lot of newbies are going to be picking up more and more dev stuff, then coming to #linux or #linuxhelp and bugging everyone in there why things are breaking ;) And everyone I'm sure agrees that's a bad thing. Although I must admit I learned linux very quickly by constantly breaking and being forced to gruelingly fix things.. So... But then I am more independant, most people break things, freak, panic, run around screaming, and then beg for help..
Also, I think the maintainer doesn't understand the difference between stable and dev in a lot of areas. Under GTK for instance, it only lists one. "Stable:1.1.12"
Seron,
PPP worked as recently as pre5, then all of a sudden went poof when I went to pre6. I'll probably just back up to pre1 or something. But any ideas on this? I setserial everything correctly like I normally do, and poof. No response from modem.
Hell, I'd rather have a 1 Ghz box that looked like shit, and even smelled like shit. As opposed to one that looks like a flower garden and smells like roses, but only happens to be a 200 Mhz. Gimme power baby!
Seron,