If goverments decide this is a Bad Thing couldn't they just pass a law saying all routers/gateways/whatever are not allowed to forward Freenet packets? I didn't read all the technical docs but it seems it's not tied to one port number which is good but:
It would seem to me that when one node is talking to another it should try to hide the data - like wrap it up in a gif? Get some mathemiticians to work on this and the "wrapping" algorithm should be changeable (let any pair of nodes use whatever one they want).
My hope is that it should be impossible for an eavesdropper to tell what are Freenet packets and what aren't. So that the only way to shut it down would be to shut down the whole Internet! --------------------------------------- ---------- "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists" -
Had the government intervened a decade ago, when it would really have mattered, yesterday's court ruling might have been as ground-breaking as the pundits and analysts were claiming last night
Like stopping that Win3.1 on DRDOS "bug"
Who would we hate in that situation (MS not becoming all powerful)?
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talking about what to do to help the artist but I'm just too greedy! Everyone else thinks the same. If the song is online for free or can be ripped off a borrowed CD then why not?
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... with a different ending to the original... Lets have a film where a few/. trollers eventually discover they are still posting to BBS's even though they think they are posting to some new fangled web based forum ------------------------------------------- ------ "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists" -
I was joking Or maybe you're trolling. God only knows. I can't thing of any feature of the Amiga (other than multiples "screens" visible at the same time) that is ahead of the current state of the art in either hardware or software. Pseudo 14-bit sound! Must chuck out my Awe64...
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Sorry for the flamebait but the Amiga hackers should start on Free Software stuff. The Amiga was just another old (but nice) OS gone stale. The only way I want to see Amiga come back is if the GPL the lot and any nice bits can be put in Linux
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The Amiga is back is it? As far as I can see it's a completely different OS on different hardware. Am I right in saying that the only "Amiga" thing about it is the name. I know this is an awkward question but what defines an Amiga? Multimedia? Why not call BeOS "the new AmigaOS" Seamless emulation support for the old apps is probably the only distinction and I have UAE running on my computer ---------------------------------------- --------- "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists" -
The comment I'm replying to shoulda been marked (Score 3,Troll) instead of -1 flamebait. I don't claim to be an old fart (check Jargon File) but I would guess this was a damn good troll. I think from now on once someone gets moderator access big lights should flash on there screen explaining 1) what a troll is 2) many should be marked UP as Funny or Troll ------------------------------------------- ------ "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists" -
Regardless of whether I think it's wrong I am VERY dissapointed that the author thought this was a good opener: "An investigation discovered widespread belief that the open source nature of the operating system allows hackers an easy route" Asking a couple of people for an opinion does not count as an investigation. Only if the words "widespread belief" were removed could there be some actual meaning (albeit wrong). If I went into a church I would find "widespread belief" in God but I would find differing opinions in other places. That doesn't change the fact they're wrong (IMHO) Anyway security is a relative and personal thing. It depends on resources available, what type of defense you want etc. and on what the sysadmin already has experience of. The other interesting point is that you could mathematically prove certain parts of Linux correct because of access to the source which you couldn't do with closed source ones. ------------------------------------------- ------ "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists" -
Simply having a search string included seems a bit of a kludge to me. What about it the link tag in the html also contained the date/time it was created. This way the browser would now how old it was. It the browser sent this to the server as a header then if the server couldn't find it it could check some database or whatever to see what the directory structure was like at that time and work out what redirect to use. If bookmarks also contained this date/time then surely the server could tell the browser to update the bookmark (after warning the user, of course).
This would be pretty cool on an interactive site where the server could rearrange query strings or whatever if the serverside scripting had been given a big overhaul/re-organization.
Basically, surely the server itself, and not some search engine would best know how to fix a broken link and it would only requires a couple of new headers and should be easy to implement at least on the client side.
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If it doesn't like: ln/etc/passwd/webserverdir/etc/passwd
what about: mv/etc/passwd/webserverdir/etc ln/webserverdir/etc/passwd/etc/passwd
If you see what I mean! I was always wondering about what exactly was the status of a hardlinked file (is it truly ambiguous as to what dir it is in - or is one of the links a "real" one)
Would a soft link from/etc to the/webserverdir work? Ie. does the login stuff insist that/etc/passwd be a real file?
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Now normally I give the accused cracker the benefit of the doubt but check this:
> E-mail messages over the next month > indicate plans by Bell and Brelje to > contact Epicor's existing Vista software > customers and turn them into clients of VP > Projects
No matter what damned tool they use these are discussing/intending to sell trade secrets.
But, possession (or even use) of l0phtcrack definitely should not be illegal. I have used it, so am aware of it's legitimate usage;)
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Java can go to hell. Javascript is cool but I don't think I have seen any Java applets except that silly punch the monkey thing. I turned off Java in Novemberish and am glad to be rid of it.
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Linus, Alan Cox, that bloke who invented the WWW. etc. There are many more I can't be bothered typing in. A VERY large proportion of the code on your Linux CD came from various Europeans, Australians etc. If it weren't for us you can wipe a few years of the development. Imagine trying to fight Win2K with what we had in the early 90's. We didn't even have a free kernel then! AFAIR
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What happens when you put [KC]atz and Dogs in the same room. Do you get Robot Wars or Flamewars?
I can just see the Aibo using some built in modem postin on/. saying "I've had enough of his posts and now he's in my house!" ----------------------------------------- -------- "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists" -
I just want more buttons on my mouse:-) That's the best UI improvement I can think of. One for open/save/compile/run/email etc.
Seriously though. Sure, have a default one. Make sure it can and will be customized like hell by the user.
Make the wm learn - MS Offices idea of hiding rarely used menu items was a (lightly misguided) in the right direction. I want the wm to notice that I usually minimize XMMS within a few seconds of starting it playing. When it notices this it will ask me "In future, do you want the Play button to automagically minimize too"
NB: I meant "proper" data-mining. I don't mean the XMMS developers explicitly put this in. I want it to genuinely apply statistics to my habits. Notice the way after you save a file you quite often do a compile/execute. If it notices that this usually happened to files being saved in a directory called ~/c_progs (like I have).
I don't think it would be _too_ hard to implement. I have thought about this kinda thing in depth - well, knee deep anyway, not neck deep;-)
There's no end to what it could learn. File dialogs could notice that certain directories are visited a lot and make them quicker to reach. It could not what kinda file extensions are associated with particulars dirs. If implemented properly it really could learn/customize stuff that the developers never expected!
Just maintain a big database of every "common" action the user takes. Events that happen within say five seconds of each will be stored in a list. Every so often (middle of some night) pump it into a program that looks for non-randomness. Companies like IBM are into this kinda stuff, AFAIR. Insurance companies would love it.
It's more a mathemical/statistical problem than a programming/coding one.
Blah Blah Blah. I must stop ranting (and going off topic) ------------------------------------------ ------- "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists" -
> "out of the box" standard that is intended > to make Linux more useful to newbies
Don't we have that already? I think when I went into gnome for the first time I saw minimize,maximize and close buttons in the top right (same symbols, colors etc.)
But then I started messing.
I suppose there's more to it than that, but the file manager in gmome (gmc) looks fairly similar to win98 (back, forward and up buttons etc.)
The file open/dialogs could be improved a bit but they're certainly not reliant on the keyboard at all.
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If it's going to be read-only (which I have no problem with) then: If you want a simple way to keep up with all new posts then/. could have a page where based on a cookie stored in your browser it would show you any posts since you last visited same page. If/. just kept a buffer of all posts in order of time (which should be very easy to implement) it would just have to pump out the ones after a certain point in this buffer. You could cut out stories you weren't interested in and set moderation levels etc. Or maybe just select a post and read all replies (and subreplies etc.)
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Thanks for the clarification. I suppose it's a bit late to reply (3+days after the story) but i think the desktop switchers in G/K don't implement like i said before but just send a message to the wm saying "would you mind changing to this desktop?". Anyway, the thing I'm most curious about is why KDE has one default standard windows manager. Unless that particular one is the most customizable wm ever then i don't see the point. Now I really need to free up space to install KDE - I think that win98 partition is going to have to come off, it's not been booted in a loooooong time:-) --------------------------------------------- ---- "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists" -
K and G are the obvious contenders now, but things can change very quickly in computers and while I wish these Eazel people luck I hope they don't dumb it down too much. There are many more "features" than the two I listed that could confuse newbies (be they newbies to computers in general or newbies to Linux).
I hope they stick to the policy on their main page: And we'll do it in a way that appeals to today's Linux users and to mere mortals
PS: GNOME supports loads of virtual desktops (in fact 2x2 the default, I don't know what K's default is, it's been a couple of years since I used it, I must try it again actually)
Technically, it's a wm feature isn't it? So, GNOME/KDE support but don't implement them -------------------------------------------- ----- "If I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists" -
In a sense I hope this doesn't lead to a standardised GUI.
Why? Because whatever standard is chosen will be the one that is easiest for complete newbies (no virtual desktops, either 2-button or, god forbid, 1 button). Basically, no customization.
Whatever does _win_ (Gnome/K/Eazel/mixture/NoneOfTheAbove) it should mix simplicity AND power. What I mean is the defaults should be simple but if you want Ctrl-Alt-Middle Button to put the current app in bottom right desktop and minimized then that should be possible!
I want to be able to be easily able to edit (scriptable or something) what each button on the title bar does. There are some cool ideas from Nut&Bolts (Win95 utility now owned by McAfee I think) for open file dialogs that I want.
All these buttons and whatnot may confuse users so just have them disabled by default.
Enough of my wishlist. I want to be able to get cool new productivity tricks without having to replace my WM and learn how the new one works
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Slashdot Mirror
If goverments decide this is a Bad Thing couldn't they just pass a law saying all routers/gateways/whatever are not allowed to forward Freenet packets? I didn't read all the technical docs but it seems it's not tied to one port number which is good but:
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It would seem to me that when one node is talking to another it should try to hide the data - like wrap it up in a gif? Get some mathemiticians to work on this and the "wrapping" algorithm should be changeable (let any pair of nodes use whatever one they want).
My hope is that it should be impossible for an eavesdropper to tell what are Freenet packets and what aren't. So that the only way to shut it down would be to shut down the whole Internet!
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Had the government intervened a decade ago, when it would really have mattered, yesterday's court ruling might have been as ground-breaking as the pundits and analysts were claiming last night
Like stopping that Win3.1 on DRDOS "bug"
Who would we hate in that situation (MS not becoming all powerful)?
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But's it's all closed source! ...
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I suppose this is flamebait but
"Our success will be the embrase of Java." sounds like a complete waste of time.
Corel tried it and it never got them anywhere. I have fond memories of the Amiga and don't want them destroyed by whatever rubbish they produce.
They're just clutching at straws.
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In fact M$ missed 1903 versions of Office!!!- ----------
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talking about what to do to help the artist but I'm just too greedy!
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Everyone else thinks the same. If the song is online for free or can be ripped off a borrowed CD then why not?
I know it's not right but I don't intend to pay for music again if I don't have to!
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... with a different ending to the original ... /. trollers eventually discover they are still posting to BBS's even though they think they are posting to some new fangled web based forum- ------
Lets have a film where a few
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I was joking Or maybe you're trolling. God only knows.
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I can't thing of any feature of the Amiga (other than multiples "screens" visible at the same time) that is ahead of the current state of the art in either hardware or software.
Pseudo 14-bit sound! Must chuck out my Awe64...
As far as I'm concerned the C64 was the best at the time but I'm not pining for another
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Ho Ho :-) OK, I was typing too quick. .....
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But if the made the hardware free as in beer
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Sorry for the flamebait but the Amiga hackers should start on Free Software stuff. The Amiga was just another old (but nice) OS gone stale.
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The only way I want to see Amiga come back is if the GPL the lot and any nice bits can be put in Linux
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The Amiga is back is it?- ---------
As far as I can see it's a completely different OS on different hardware. Am I right in saying that the only "Amiga" thing about it is the name. I know this is an awkward question but what defines an Amiga?
Multimedia? Why not call BeOS "the new AmigaOS"
Seamless emulation support for the old apps is probably the only distinction and I have UAE running on my computer
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The comment I'm replying to shoulda been marked (Score 3,Troll) instead of -1 flamebait.- ------
I don't claim to be an old fart (check Jargon File) but I would guess this was a damn good troll.
I think from now on once someone gets moderator access big lights should flash on there screen explaining
1) what a troll is
2) many should be marked UP as Funny or Troll
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Regardless of whether I think it's wrong I am VERY dissapointed that the author thought this was a good opener:- ------
"An investigation discovered widespread belief that the open source nature of the operating system allows hackers an easy route"
Asking a couple of people for an opinion does not count as an investigation.
Only if the words "widespread belief" were removed could there be some actual meaning (albeit wrong).
If I went into a church I would find "widespread belief" in God but I would find differing opinions in other places. That doesn't change the fact they're wrong (IMHO)
Anyway security is a relative and personal thing. It depends on resources available, what type of defense you want etc. and on what the sysadmin already has experience of.
The other interesting point is that you could mathematically prove certain parts of Linux correct because of access to the source which you couldn't do with closed source ones.
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Simply having a search string included seems a bit of a kludge to me.
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What about it the link tag in the html also contained the date/time it was created. This way the browser would now how old it was. It the browser sent this to the server as a header then if the server couldn't find it it could check some database or whatever to see what the directory structure was like at that time and work out what redirect to use. If bookmarks also contained this date/time then surely the server could tell the browser to update the bookmark (after warning the user, of course).
This would be pretty cool on an interactive site where the server could rearrange query strings or whatever if the serverside scripting had been given a big overhaul/re-organization.
Basically, surely the server itself, and not some search engine would best know how to fix a broken link and it would only requires a couple of new headers and should be easy to implement at least on the client side.
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If it doesn't like: /etc/passwd /webserverdir/etc/passwd
/etc/passwd /webserverdir/etc /webserverdir/etc/passwd /etc/passwd
/etc to the /webserverdir work? Ie. does the login stuff insist that /etc/passwd be a real file?
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ln
what about:
mv
ln
If you see what I mean!
I was always wondering about what exactly was the status of a hardlinked file (is it truly ambiguous as to what dir it is in - or is one of the links a "real" one)
Would a soft link from
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Now normally I give the accused cracker the benefit of the doubt but check this:
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> E-mail messages over the next month
> indicate plans by Bell and Brelje to
> contact Epicor's existing Vista software
> customers and turn them into clients of VP
> Projects
No matter what damned tool they use these are discussing/intending to sell trade secrets.
But, possession (or even use) of l0phtcrack definitely should not be illegal. I have used it, so am aware of it's legitimate usage
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Java can go to hell. Javascript is cool but I don't think I have seen any Java applets except that silly punch the monkey thing. I turned off Java in Novemberish and am glad to be rid of it.
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It's just damned bloatware
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Linus, Alan Cox, that bloke who invented the WWW. etc. There are many more I can't be bothered typing in.
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A VERY large proportion of the code on your Linux CD came from various Europeans, Australians etc.
If it weren't for us you can wipe a few years of the development. Imagine trying to fight Win2K with what we had in the early 90's. We didn't even have a free kernel then! AFAIR
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What happens when you put [KC]atz and Dogs in the same room. Do you get Robot Wars or Flamewars?
/. saying - --------
I can just see the Aibo using some built in modem postin on
"I've had enough of his posts and now he's in my house!"
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I just want more buttons on my mouse :-)
;-)
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That's the best UI improvement I can think of. One for open/save/compile/run/email etc.
Seriously though. Sure, have a default one. Make sure it can and will be customized like hell by the user.
Make the wm learn - MS Offices idea of hiding rarely used menu items was a (lightly misguided) in the right direction.
I want the wm to notice that I usually minimize XMMS within a few seconds of starting it playing. When it notices this it will ask me "In future, do you want the Play button to automagically minimize too"
NB: I meant "proper" data-mining. I don't mean the XMMS developers explicitly put this in. I want it to genuinely apply statistics to my habits. Notice the way after you save a file you quite often do a compile/execute. If it notices that this usually happened to files being saved in a directory called ~/c_progs (like I have).
I don't think it would be _too_ hard to implement. I have thought about this kinda thing in depth - well, knee deep anyway, not neck deep
There's no end to what it could learn. File dialogs could notice that certain directories are visited a lot and make them quicker to reach. It could not what kinda file extensions are associated with particulars dirs. If implemented properly it really could learn/customize stuff that the developers never expected!
Just maintain a big database of every "common" action the user takes. Events that happen within say five seconds of each will be stored in a list. Every so often (middle of some night) pump it into a program that looks for non-randomness. Companies like IBM are into this kinda stuff, AFAIR. Insurance companies would love it.
It's more a mathemical/statistical problem than a programming/coding one.
Blah Blah Blah. I must stop ranting (and going off topic)
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Apologies for this completely redundant post!
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> "out of the box" standard that is intended
> to make Linux more useful to newbies
Don't we have that already? I think when I went into gnome for the first time I saw minimize,maximize and close buttons in the top right (same symbols, colors etc.)
But then I started messing.
I suppose there's more to it than that, but the file manager in gmome (gmc) looks fairly similar to win98 (back, forward and up buttons etc.)
The file open/dialogs could be improved a bit but they're certainly not reliant on the keyboard at all.
.. now to think if i can come up with something original to post.
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If it's going to be read-only (which I have no problem with) then: /. could have a page where based on a cookie stored in your browser it would show you any posts since you last visited same page. If /. just kept a buffer of all posts in order of time (which should be very easy to implement) it would just have to pump out the ones after a certain point in this buffer.
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If you want a simple way to keep up with all new posts then
You could cut out stories you weren't interested in and set moderation levels etc. Or maybe just select a post and read all replies (and subreplies etc.)
Ah well, it probably doesn't seem like a great idea but anyway
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How the f*ck did the Sloppy's comment be marked as Funny? It was Informative if anything.
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The Other OS == FreeBSB
no doubt about it. anyone who has been following unixy things at all knows that is what Linux "longhairs" call it.
I can guarantee thats what Hemos meant when he posted
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Thanks for the clarification. :-)- ----
I suppose it's a bit late to reply (3+days after the story) but i think the desktop switchers in G/K don't implement like i said before but just send a message to the wm saying "would you mind changing to this desktop?".
Anyway, the thing I'm most curious about is why KDE has one default standard windows manager. Unless that particular one is the most customizable wm ever then i don't see the point. Now I really need to free up space to install KDE - I think that win98 partition is going to have to come off, it's not been booted in a loooooong time
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K and G are the obvious contenders now, but things can change very quickly in computers and while I wish these Eazel people luck I hope they don't dumb it down too much. There are many more "features" than the two I listed that could confuse newbies (be they newbies to computers in general or newbies to Linux).
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I hope they stick to the policy on their main page: And we'll do it in a way that appeals to today's Linux users and to mere mortals
PS: GNOME supports loads of virtual desktops (in fact 2x2 the default, I don't know what K's default is, it's been a couple of years since I used it, I must try it again actually)
Technically, it's a wm feature isn't it? So, GNOME/KDE support but don't implement them
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In a sense I hope this doesn't lead to a standardised GUI.
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Why? Because whatever standard is chosen will be the one that is easiest for complete newbies (no virtual desktops, either 2-button or, god forbid, 1 button). Basically, no customization.
Whatever does _win_ (Gnome/K/Eazel/mixture/NoneOfTheAbove) it should mix simplicity AND power. What I mean is the defaults should be simple but if you want Ctrl-Alt-Middle Button to put the current app in bottom right desktop and minimized then that should be possible!
I want to be able to be easily able to edit (scriptable or something) what each button on the title bar does. There are some cool ideas from Nut&Bolts (Win95 utility now owned by McAfee I think) for open file dialogs that I want.
All these buttons and whatnot may confuse users so just have them disabled by default.
Enough of my wishlist. I want to be able to get cool new productivity tricks without having to replace my WM and learn how the new one works
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