You hit the nail on the head. When I first heard the Nevermind album, it sounded like Cobain was probably actually a pretty good player, but was playing really badly on purpose for "street cred" or whatever. If this had been just one band on a few albums, it would have been fine, because obviously Cobain had a method to his madness.
Instead, it blew wide open and popularized what I still to this day call the "suck ethic," which got really annoying after about 2 years. Everyone just *had* to go run out and buy the crappiest Fender Mustang they could find, detune the hell out of it, and suddenly refuse to admit that they knew every Van Halen lick this side of "Running with the Devil."
And, of course, all of a sudden, everyone had to pile on and make fun of the 80s. I always thought that eventally, the 90s would be mocked even more. I guess we'll see if that's true here in a few more years.
There don't seem to be any good guitar players these days.
IMHO, you have none other than the late Kurt Cobain to thank for that. He made it cool to suck at guitar playing, and set the genre back a good 15 years or so. We're just now starting to recover from the damage that the so-called "grunge" movement did.
Are you wasting away your life doing something you don't believe in?
No, but I'm afraid you are wasting your time feeding the trolls. What you fail to understand is that these idiots have no interest in listening to your point of view or any other argument that is not part of the officially approved Microsoft Bashing Curriculum ®.
These are the same people who find it horribly offensive that a company should *dare* seek to profit from its work. Of course, they can't make a logical argument as to why, but hey, why bother going to all that trouble when they can get a cheap laugh out of ad hominem attacks?
It's like dealing with a roomful of third graders who just love to listen to themselves call you a "doo-doo head" over and over again, and the more you protest, the louder the catcalls and giggling gets.
You obviously have better things to do with your life than argue with these people.
I used to have one in a house that I lived in in Tucson. The thing worked amazingly well, to the point that you would actually get cold, not just cool, and the best part was that you could leave the windows open. In fact, it worked better that way. Couldn't use it during monsoon season, though.
As someone who grew up in the deep south, it was nice to see a system like that that actually *worked*, for a change.
So now the editors have sunken to posting dupes in order to get another dig in at Microsoft. Gee, hard to believe this site is becoming known as a zealot's paradise, isn't it?
'...the most fearsome creature I've ever seen while scuba diving there was a giant catfish maybe 4-5 ft long...'
I'm assuming that you mean the most fearsome creature *other* than the dreadful Drunkassicus waverunnicus, known to infest the waters of Lake Travis, particularly during the summer months.
Well, yes, I guess I do sound like I'm bitching, but it's not about Trent Reznor or the fact that he released the tracks to the public. That, in and of itself, is a very cool move, and I agree, it's a complete gift.
This having been said, let me ask you a question. Do you think that if the tracks had been released in some, oh, I dunno, say, Windows-only format, that it would be receiving the same ebullient praise here today? I didn't think so. See my point now?
As for the EULA, it is fine and completely understandable. If I were Trent Reznor, the last thing I would want to do is be in some club somewhere and hear samples of my material in some crappy remix that was "produced" by DJ WhiteKidWannabeGangstaFromDaBurbs. Would you? Again, I didn't think so.
So, where the hell are the rest of his songs? Hehe.
How about, gee, releasing the original ProTools session under that EULA for those of us who don't own or use GarageBand but do happen to have a real audio package? What a concept! I guess it wouldn't be all "neato" and stuff if it weren't in an officially Apple-sanctioned format, though.
Sadly, this is no April Fool's post, whether it was intended as such or not. I have yet to see the rebate check for the very laptop I'm typing this post on, and I mailed the claim in the Monday after Thanksgiving.
Nor do I expect to see it, nor am I going to even bother bitching to Best Buy about it. As they say, "don't throw good money after bad."
There's a nice unbiased source of information if I've ever seen one . If we're going to start using sources like this, shouldn't these topics be on politics./.org?
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Since your nick is ScentCone, I'll trust that you know what you're talking about...
I refuse to bend my knee to Redmond.
You don't have to.
You hit the nail on the head. When I first heard the Nevermind album, it sounded like Cobain was probably actually a pretty good player, but was playing really badly on purpose for "street cred" or whatever. If this had been just one band on a few albums, it would have been fine, because obviously Cobain had a method to his madness.
Instead, it blew wide open and popularized what I still to this day call the "suck ethic," which got really annoying after about 2 years. Everyone just *had* to go run out and buy the crappiest Fender Mustang they could find, detune the hell out of it, and suddenly refuse to admit that they knew every Van Halen lick this side of "Running with the Devil."
And, of course, all of a sudden, everyone had to pile on and make fun of the 80s. I always thought that eventally, the 90s would be mocked even more. I guess we'll see if that's true here in a few more years.
Good point, but Cobain was the one who brought it into the "mainstream", so to speak.
Of course, any discussion about freakazoid guitar players should also include Allan Holdsworth.
There don't seem to be any good guitar players these days.
IMHO, you have none other than the late Kurt Cobain to thank for that. He made it cool to suck at guitar playing, and set the genre back a good 15 years or so. We're just now starting to recover from the damage that the so-called "grunge" movement did.
The Salvador Dali programmer: Nobody knows how the hell this code works, but the UI is *killer*.
Are you wasting away your life doing something you don't believe in?
No, but I'm afraid you are wasting your time feeding the trolls. What you fail to understand is that these idiots have no interest in listening to your point of view or any other argument that is not part of the officially approved Microsoft Bashing Curriculum ®.
These are the same people who find it horribly offensive that a company should *dare* seek to profit from its work. Of course, they can't make a logical argument as to why, but hey, why bother going to all that trouble when they can get a cheap laugh out of ad hominem attacks?
It's like dealing with a roomful of third graders who just love to listen to themselves call you a "doo-doo head" over and over again, and the more you protest, the louder the catcalls and giggling gets.
You obviously have better things to do with your life than argue with these people.
What?!? Brainfuck? Dude, that language sucks! You should try MentalMidget sometime! It does it so much [easier|faster|better]!
OK, you must *know* you had that one coming...
I used to have one in a house that I lived in in Tucson. The thing worked amazingly well, to the point that you would actually get cold, not just cool, and the best part was that you could leave the windows open. In fact, it worked better that way. Couldn't use it during monsoon season, though.
As someone who grew up in the deep south, it was nice to see a system like that that actually *worked*, for a change.
And, predictably, I get modded Troll for pointing it out...SSDD...Ho hum...
So now the editors have sunken to posting dupes in order to get another dig in at Microsoft. Gee, hard to believe this site is becoming known as a zealot's paradise, isn't it?
'...the most fearsome creature I've ever seen while scuba diving there was a giant catfish maybe 4-5 ft long...'
I'm assuming that you mean the most fearsome creature *other* than the dreadful Drunkassicus waverunnicus, known to infest the waters of Lake Travis, particularly during the summer months.
Sure, iPods are selling like hotcakes. Too bad I wasn't talking about iPods.
Sarcastic? Sure. Smarmy? Possibly. But...bitter? Nah, it's too nice a day today, and plus, it's the weekend.
I'd prefer the raw tracks anyway. After all, the idea is to be creative with the material, not just reproduce his mix, right?
Well, yes, I guess I do sound like I'm bitching, but it's not about Trent Reznor or the fact that he released the tracks to the public. That, in and of itself, is a very cool move, and I agree, it's a complete gift.
This having been said, let me ask you a question. Do you think that if the tracks had been released in some, oh, I dunno, say, Windows-only format, that it would be receiving the same ebullient praise here today? I didn't think so. See my point now?
As for the EULA, it is fine and completely understandable. If I were Trent Reznor, the last thing I would want to do is be in some club somewhere and hear samples of my material in some crappy remix that was "produced" by DJ WhiteKidWannabeGangstaFromDaBurbs. Would you? Again, I didn't think so.
So, where the hell are the rest of his songs? Hehe.
How about, gee, releasing the original ProTools session under that EULA for those of us who don't own or use GarageBand but do happen to have a real audio package? What a concept! I guess it wouldn't be all "neato" and stuff if it weren't in an officially Apple-sanctioned format, though.
5) ???
6) Profi...oh shit, nevermind; this is Mac culture we're talking about....
...the approximate weight of the average /.er's "little black book."
Sadly, this is no April Fool's post, whether it was intended as such or not. I have yet to see the rebate check for the very laptop I'm typing this post on, and I mailed the claim in the Monday after Thanksgiving.
Nor do I expect to see it, nor am I going to even bother bitching to Best Buy about it. As they say, "don't throw good money after bad."
Also, he's Dairy Queen's most famous employee ever.
There's a nice unbiased source of information if I've ever seen one . If we're going to start using sources like this, shouldn't these topics be on politics./.org?
Or is it 'virii'? I'm sure the Grammar Nazis will clarify the situation shortly....
1. Write viruses
2. Work for antivirus company selling solutions to the viruses that you write
3. Profit!