Yeah, have you checked out that users journal history?
I'm not saying anything mean, but I am really scratching my head after browsing his journal and comment history.
I wonder if an elder geek couldn't save this one. BTW, Luke727, have you been bitch slapped or do you just get modded down quickly? Just kinda curious.
It is not just consumer grade CDs and DVDs. The ancient IBM/AIX system I used to manage was rock solid on commiting valid backups to media.
My current home server is a multiprocessor Dell (the type that is marketed to small businesses) - internal tape etc.. After going round and round with Dell over the constant stream of inexplicably borked backup tapes I demanded a partial credit, returned both the original and replacement tape drives to them, and moved to an external raid array that I image on a fairly regular basis.
I have a hard time believing I was being sold the same hardware that even a mid-size company would have been received from Dell.
"So you'd have to be asked the same set of questions by a panel of say 5 separate polygraph "professionals" (who can not interact with each other)? Then go with the majority decision."
Last time I checked guilt had to be determined unanimously. Follow this link to witness the power of the juggernaut that is the U.S. legal system:
I grew up in L.A. and had an integrated social circle that drew from a pretty wide swath of communities. After what happened in '92 there was legally sanctioned trouble for people wearing certain clothes, having certain tattoos etc. I know that someone will inevitably point out that the policies were eventually scaled back, but there was a time in L.A. where law abiding youths of certain appearances/demographics literally had to fear the legally authorized power wielded by police.
IIRC the Rampart scandal grew out of policies put in place after '92...
The world has changed since those days, and I fear that this development is not pipe dream bullshit as you suggest.
On another note: Forgive the Godwin, and correct me if I am wrong, but don't some European countries have criminal penalties for displaying a swastika even in the form of satire or parody?
"Shit happens. Pointing out what we all already know doesn't do anything helpful."
Actually, it gives posters like you a chance to remind everyone else that shit happens.
I believe there would be many fewer frustrated/bitter IT workers if more people meditated on the fact that shit just happens. In today's marketplace it is usually IT left holding the bag when things go south anyhow... gotta get acclimated to that and roll on.
Anyhow, I doubt there are many IT veterans not familiar with really expensive, really borked backup systems. Smarter people than me have observed that as technology progresses, existing strategies either age or mature. The ones that age become brittle, and the ones that mature become more robust...
Corporate suits usually insure that both aged and mature technologies will be flogged on long past their rational retirement dates.
"Make big time spamming a hanging offense. That will stop it fast."
Just make sure you get the executioners ragingly intoxicated before they do the deed. I would hate for a spammer, of all people, to be remembered as being particularly well hung.
I can't find a link right now, but one of those Mac nostalgia sites has a first person account of Steve Jobs demanding hardware based functionality be removed from the initial Apple II offering so that it could be replaced to add value to the next generation.
Artificial upgrade cycles suck even if history will show Apple was just on the leading edge of a new wave. Firewire still works well for a number of use scenarios.
Search is weird because it currently can't work by returning 'objective' results.
Engines get ahead by returning the 'best' results. With 'best' being defined by the wisdom of the crowds, and the wisdom of the crowds being heavily influenced by advertising, and the advertising ultimately paying for the search infrastructure that provides the results...
Who is going to regulate this industry? Not the people in power right now, or in the immediate future from what I can tell (my apologies to Obama).
How did all these people end up on YouTube in the first place? What search engines feed the most people onto the site?
Does a mechanism even exist for gauging the objectivity of search results?
I use Google apps, gmail, etc.. but I am worried about the changes that take place when any company gets too deeply entrenched at the top of their niche. I would feel better about Google if their side projects were doing a little less well.
"Your mistake was to ask upper management for an official project"
And if you ever wake up and think - "wow, my boss finally gets the new web paradigm," you will have people like the submitter and commenters who post productive advice to thank.
Btw, I have never dealt with the subject the poster is asking about, so I have no productive advice to give.
Everyone here is assuming persistent connectivity.
Client apps should always be written with the ability to dress, validate, and temporarily persist data before attempting to transmit, then the server should double check everything. Rejecting data on the server side, while necessary to prevent malicious injections, will always cost bandwidth or worse - it costs time if the client cannot reconnect for a set period to respond to results of server side validation.
Even if you don't care about bandwidth, reducing the need for client side modifications after the initial submit just seems wise.
If you are clever you might even omit a few key rules from your client side validation, leave an opening. Analyze any input that trips those rules on the server side for an ad-hoc Honeypot/Canary-in-the-Coal-Mine.
The final line of GP's comment indicates a sarcastic tone was intended. I doubt GP is suggesting that it is not possible to open a security hole with a VB.NET program.
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"The aristocracy of science is the complete antithesis to its actual purpose."
There are many historical instances of the aristocracy of the establishment hindering progress, sure. The story of the 'amateur' mathematician Fermat is one of my favorite examples to cite... it took a couple hundred years for the rest of the world to catch up with some of his ideas.
But the establishment is not supposed to be protecting the cutting edge, they are supposed to be ensuring the integrity of our core knowledge repositories. Anything that makes it into a journal should be vetted to death and given time to show its flaws before joining the core.
The alienation felt by progressive outsiders, including people shunned by the established journals, may actually be a key component to progress (just my unfounded, anecdote based opinion). Many of these outsiders never get recognition during their lifetimes, and have been reported to feel the way you seem to about the ethics of the established scientific institutions... all of which motivates them to strive harder in their own direction to the ultimate benefit of our species.
"The chilling effect of Mankind's stupidity is a factor too great to ignore."
You raise a good point.
Many proponents of the singularity suggest a 'critical mass' type scenario, where the option not to proceed with these developments is effectively removed from man's control in the very near future.
This point of view seems more than a little optimistic right now, but if we succeed in surviving another couple of decades... who knows.
According to Kurzweil's vision the move to intelligent mass following the singularity will be relatively swift as all of the existing computational power will be dedicated to bridging the divides between the intelligence and the medium.
It is suggested that once the intelligence and the medium are one, then force will simply be an expression of 'thought,' and could only be instructive, and not destructive.
IIRC the term singularity can refer to anyplace that predictive systems appear break down.
I was listening to a talk on hypercanes quite some time ago, and the lecturer was using the term singularity to describe the point beyond which the weather system became self-sustaining, a situation for which the predictive equations could not account. Once the predictive systems are expanded the 'singularity' is 'pushed back' to the point where the systems break down again.
Thanks for the links... My point, which I failed to express clearly now that I reread, was that the attention from the vendor was welcome.
I was unaware of the previous Tiger hardening guide from Apple, but had seen other materials from third parties. Long story short, I thought the oft repeated community attitudes towards OS X security were echoed by Apple: namely that there was little need for security measures.
Documents like this will encourage people like me to at least look at Apple when considering purchases.
I have never trusted the 'so safe you don't need protection' argument about any product, much less one as important as a computer operating system. Let's not even dig into the can 'o worms of trusting a publically traded, and therefore profit driven company, to maintain the highest production standards indefinitely.
Security vulnerabilities just take time to evolve, they will find everyone sooner or later.
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Yeah, have you checked out that users journal history?
I'm not saying anything mean, but I am really scratching my head after browsing his journal and comment history.
I wonder if an elder geek couldn't save this one. BTW, Luke727, have you been bitch slapped or do you just get modded down quickly? Just kinda curious.
It is not just consumer grade CDs and DVDs. The ancient IBM/AIX system I used to manage was rock solid on commiting valid backups to media.
My current home server is a multiprocessor Dell (the type that is marketed to small businesses) - internal tape etc.. After going round and round with Dell over the constant stream of inexplicably borked backup tapes I demanded a partial credit, returned both the original and replacement tape drives to them, and moved to an external raid array that I image on a fairly regular basis.
I have a hard time believing I was being sold the same hardware that even a mid-size company would have been received from Dell.
"So you'd have to be asked the same set of questions by a panel of say 5 separate polygraph "professionals" (who can not interact with each other)? Then go with the majority decision."
Last time I checked guilt had to be determined unanimously. Follow this link to witness the power of the juggernaut that is the U.S. legal system:
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/10/21/2008-10-21_judge_declares_a_mistrial_in_britney_spe.html
Regards.
I grew up in L.A. and had an integrated social circle that drew from a pretty wide swath of communities. After what happened in '92 there was legally sanctioned trouble for people wearing certain clothes, having certain tattoos etc. I know that someone will inevitably point out that the policies were eventually scaled back, but there was a time in L.A. where law abiding youths of certain appearances/demographics literally had to fear the legally authorized power wielded by police.
IIRC the Rampart scandal grew out of policies put in place after '92...
The world has changed since those days, and I fear that this development is not pipe dream bullshit as you suggest.
On another note: Forgive the Godwin, and correct me if I am wrong, but don't some European countries have criminal penalties for displaying a swastika even in the form of satire or parody?
"Shit happens. Pointing out what we all already know doesn't do anything helpful."
Actually, it gives posters like you a chance to remind everyone else that shit happens.
I believe there would be many fewer frustrated/bitter IT workers if more people meditated on the fact that shit just happens. In today's marketplace it is usually IT left holding the bag when things go south anyhow... gotta get acclimated to that and roll on.
Anyhow, I doubt there are many IT veterans not familiar with really expensive, really borked backup systems. Smarter people than me have observed that as technology progresses, existing strategies either age or mature. The ones that age become brittle, and the ones that mature become more robust...
Corporate suits usually insure that both aged and mature technologies will be flogged on long past their rational retirement dates.
Diku forever - apocmud.usurped.org:4000
"Make big time spamming a hanging offense. That will stop it fast."
Just make sure you get the executioners ragingly intoxicated before they do the deed. I would hate for a spammer, of all people, to be remembered as being particularly well hung.
I can't find a link right now, but one of those Mac nostalgia sites has a first person account of Steve Jobs demanding hardware based functionality be removed from the initial Apple II offering so that it could be replaced to add value to the next generation.
Artificial upgrade cycles suck even if history will show Apple was just on the leading edge of a new wave. Firewire still works well for a number of use scenarios.
Getting him a Vista laptop will ensure his parents will never have trouble getting him out of bed on school days.
*ack* Last line should read "who is capable of regulating this industry? Not the people in power..."
Apologies.
Just riffing on the concept...
Search is weird because it currently can't work by returning 'objective' results.
Engines get ahead by returning the 'best' results. With 'best' being defined by the wisdom of the crowds, and the wisdom of the crowds being heavily influenced by advertising, and the advertising ultimately paying for the search infrastructure that provides the results...
Who is going to regulate this industry? Not the people in power right now, or in the immediate future from what I can tell (my apologies to Obama).
How did all these people end up on YouTube in the first place? What search engines feed the most people onto the site?
Does a mechanism even exist for gauging the objectivity of search results?
I use Google apps, gmail, etc.. but I am worried about the changes that take place when any company gets too deeply entrenched at the top of their niche. I would feel better about Google if their side projects were doing a little less well.
"Your mistake was to ask upper management for an official project"
And if you ever wake up and think - "wow, my boss finally gets the new web paradigm," you will have people like the submitter and commenters who post productive advice to thank.
Btw, I have never dealt with the subject the poster is asking about, so I have no productive advice to give.
Everyone here is assuming persistent connectivity.
Client apps should always be written with the ability to dress, validate, and temporarily persist data before attempting to transmit, then the server should double check everything. Rejecting data on the server side, while necessary to prevent malicious injections, will always cost bandwidth or worse - it costs time if the client cannot reconnect for a set period to respond to results of server side validation.
Even if you don't care about bandwidth, reducing the need for client side modifications after the initial submit just seems wise.
If you are clever you might even omit a few key rules from your client side validation, leave an opening. Analyze any input that trips those rules on the server side for an ad-hoc Honeypot/Canary-in-the-Coal-Mine.
i totally disagree here. i would NEVER run any validation code on the client.
Are you joking? I can't tell, but I think you should be ;)
The final line of GP's comment indicates a sarcastic tone was intended. I doubt GP is suggesting that it is not possible to open a security hole with a VB.NET program.
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"The aristocracy of science is the complete antithesis to its actual purpose."
There are many historical instances of the aristocracy of the establishment hindering progress, sure. The story of the 'amateur' mathematician Fermat is one of my favorite examples to cite... it took a couple hundred years for the rest of the world to catch up with some of his ideas.
But the establishment is not supposed to be protecting the cutting edge, they are supposed to be ensuring the integrity of our core knowledge repositories. Anything that makes it into a journal should be vetted to death and given time to show its flaws before joining the core.
The alienation felt by progressive outsiders, including people shunned by the established journals, may actually be a key component to progress (just my unfounded, anecdote based opinion). Many of these outsiders never get recognition during their lifetimes, and have been reported to feel the way you seem to about the ethics of the established scientific institutions... all of which motivates them to strive harder in their own direction to the ultimate benefit of our species.
At least they are still giving reasons for the surveillance :)
We won't really be in trouble until they stop with the rationalizations altogether..
Right?
*sigh*
"The chilling effect of Mankind's stupidity is a factor too great to ignore."
You raise a good point.
Many proponents of the singularity suggest a 'critical mass' type scenario, where the option not to proceed with these developments is effectively removed from man's control in the very near future.
This point of view seems more than a little optimistic right now, but if we succeed in surviving another couple of decades... who knows.
According to Kurzweil's vision the move to intelligent mass following the singularity will be relatively swift as all of the existing computational power will be dedicated to bridging the divides between the intelligence and the medium.
It is suggested that once the intelligence and the medium are one, then force will simply be an expression of 'thought,' and could only be instructive, and not destructive.
Just a thought, and not my own at that.
IIRC the term singularity can refer to anyplace that predictive systems appear break down.
I was listening to a talk on hypercanes quite some time ago, and the lecturer was using the term singularity to describe the point beyond which the weather system became self-sustaining, a situation for which the predictive equations could not account. Once the predictive systems are expanded the 'singularity' is 'pushed back' to the point where the systems break down again.
Thanks for the links... My point, which I failed to express clearly now that I reread, was that the attention from the vendor was welcome.
I was unaware of the previous Tiger hardening guide from Apple, but had seen other materials from third parties. Long story short, I thought the oft repeated community attitudes towards OS X security were echoed by Apple: namely that there was little need for security measures.
On a less sarcastic note...
Documents like this will encourage people like me to at least look at Apple when considering purchases.
I have never trusted the 'so safe you don't need protection' argument about any product, much less one as important as a computer operating system. Let's not even dig into the can 'o worms of trusting a publically traded, and therefore profit driven company, to maintain the highest production standards indefinitely.
Security vulnerabilities just take time to evolve, they will find everyone sooner or later.