When I did use it, there were terribly few interesting plasmoids. Also, I had no control where the plasmoid 'bar' was located and how many I could have.
The Plasmoids would have been much more useful to me if I could treat them exactly like Gnome applets.
That might have changed by now, I think I last used it when it was late in the 4.0
I tried KDE4 and I very quickly decided I was no fan of it, but not because of the Plasmoids deal. That was a non-existent issue because as far as I'm concerned the Desktop is only there to show something when you're not actually doing something. If I'm not running a torrent, then my computer has no business being on, so I turn it off.
For this reason I turn off icons to the desktop in Gnome so I can do with the desktop the one thing I have felt it is good for: Showing me a pretty picture.
This isn't wholly an aesthetic desire, it's much more useful for me to just open the desktop in a file browser. The files I care to access are either managed more cleanly, in a form I couldn't hope to keep neat on a 'desktop' folder, or something I'm going to be sorting between different directories anyhow.
Rhythmbox handles my music for me. I know where the files are, but I never have to look at them
I wouldn't keep all my video on the desktop, there's too much of it in too many different directories and sometimes on a network share.
As far as usability is concerned, damn the desktop. It's only a toy, there's no need to focus on it. Everything productive you will do will be in another application you open up.
The reason I ended up disliking KDE4 was because of the lack of options in putting things neatly at the edges, which I will always see. Gnome focuses on the toolbars and I just can't understand an interest in anything else.
I like having options but KDE has always drowned me in them. I keep checking it out but I just keep getting scared off. KDE4 lost the only interest I had in KDE, which was customizing the toolbar... or whatever you want to call it.
References to Windows are one of the only times I see geeks proudly proclaiming their ignorance....It's just an OS by a company, not some insane enemy to be avoided at all cost =/
Hence "itsatrap" on every article about Microsoft supposed altruism.
They are the enemy, they declared it many, many times! The everyone-not-Windows crowd might not have a problem with Microsoft (and therefor Windows) If they didn't have so much history of UI/feature theft, assimilation of over a hundred of corporations, investing in corporations like SCO to assault the public image of Linux, claiming Open Source is dangerous and will destroy computing... Jesus, it's like a monkey throwing shit at you. You know the monkey's just doing what it does but you'll never in your right mind appreciate it.
Actually, let me make a much more concise attempt at responding to your comment.
References to Windows are one of the only times I see geeks proudly proclaiming their ignorance....It's just an OS by a company, not some insane enemy to be avoided at all cost =/
Because it GETS IN YOUR HEAD. When someone says "My iPhone", what they're desperately trying to say is "PLEASE GET THIS BRAINSUCKING ALIEN OUT OF MY HEAD!"
MY DEAD FLESH IS MY OWN! Wherever I go, I'm constantly sweeping and vacuuming up my natural debris! I got so tired of all the work now I just wear a wetsuit all the time. It's worth the wrinkly skin and the strange looks I get all the time. I'll kill that grocery bagger if he calls me Scuba Steve one more time... and then no one will know it's me because I KNOW HOW TO COVER MY TRACKS! AHHAHAHAH! No one will know, I, John Doe, was behind it all along!
I don't know, if they didn't follow the conditions the evidence then it could probably be held as inadmissible. This thing seems like such a strikingly bad idea but I can't help but see the benefits, especially with this stipulation.
That's not the best comparison. There already existed and effective treatment.
With AIDS, it's expensive and delaying the inevitable, and that inevitable without intervention is a considerably short amount of time. If this can be proven to be effective, it'll make it's way along pretty quickly.
That's only a concern on controlled experiments and FDA drug trials. I mean, that's how most people first get access to new drugs, but if get yourself in there fast enough you can go straight to primary testing, depending on the researchers. Then you have the fun of almost zero experience of what the procedure can do!
And then they can use the revenue from the ads to hire GoogleMercs and raise a private GoogleArmy, so that the GoogleArmy can appear to tentatively attack from the edges while the real force, the GoogleArmy goes in and Googles the shit out of them and no one will EVER be able to Google it and know the truth because Google has all the search results. For all the world might know, Italy was lost to a serious strain of Influenza and the only good use of the land anymore was to drop paraservers into the area to do massive work where no human can be.
Yeah, I can see exactly when I wouldn't want these hardcoded keys, like using a notebook that doesn't have a PGUP/PGDN, so you have to hold the function key. How easy would it be to minimize you browser instead of page down?
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When I did use it, there were terribly few interesting plasmoids. Also, I had no control where the plasmoid 'bar' was located and how many I could have.
The Plasmoids would have been much more useful to me if I could treat them exactly like Gnome applets.
That might have changed by now, I think I last used it when it was late in the 4.0
ALT-F2 on Dvorak is the same as Qwerty, so even better to the case is it's more consistent.
Not that Dvorak doesn't have the Super key in the same place, I just ripped it off because it made me angry.
I tried KDE4 and I very quickly decided I was no fan of it, but not because of the Plasmoids deal. That was a non-existent issue because as far as I'm concerned the Desktop is only there to show something when you're not actually doing something. If I'm not running a torrent, then my computer has no business being on, so I turn it off.
For this reason I turn off icons to the desktop in Gnome so I can do with the desktop the one thing I have felt it is good for: Showing me a pretty picture.
This isn't wholly an aesthetic desire, it's much more useful for me to just open the desktop in a file browser. The files I care to access are either managed more cleanly, in a form I couldn't hope to keep neat on a 'desktop' folder, or something I'm going to be sorting between different directories anyhow.
Rhythmbox handles my music for me. I know where the files are, but I never have to look at them
I wouldn't keep all my video on the desktop, there's too much of it in too many different directories and sometimes on a network share.
As far as usability is concerned, damn the desktop. It's only a toy, there's no need to focus on it. Everything productive you will do will be in another application you open up.
The reason I ended up disliking KDE4 was because of the lack of options in putting things neatly at the edges, which I will always see. Gnome focuses on the toolbars and I just can't understand an interest in anything else.
I like having options but KDE has always drowned me in them. I keep checking it out but I just keep getting scared off. KDE4 lost the only interest I had in KDE, which was customizing the toolbar... or whatever you want to call it.
Jesus, you two are just splitting hairs to the atom.
You are arguing over an opinion and trying to make it sound like a time-tested theory or some fact, neither of you have any hope of victory.
References to Windows are one of the only times I see geeks proudly proclaiming their ignorance....It's just an OS by a company, not some insane enemy to be avoided at all cost =/
Hence "itsatrap" on every article about Microsoft supposed altruism.
They are the enemy, they declared it many, many times! The everyone-not-Windows crowd might not have a problem with Microsoft (and therefor Windows) If they didn't have so much history of UI/feature theft, assimilation of over a hundred of corporations, investing in corporations like SCO to assault the public image of Linux, claiming Open Source is dangerous and will destroy computing... Jesus, it's like a monkey throwing shit at you. You know the monkey's just doing what it does but you'll never in your right mind appreciate it.
Actually, let me make a much more concise attempt at responding to your comment.
References to Windows are one of the only times I see geeks proudly proclaiming their ignorance....It's just an OS by a company, not some insane enemy to be avoided at all cost =/
THE FUCK IT AIN'T.
Because it GETS IN YOUR HEAD. When someone says "My iPhone", what they're desperately trying to say is "PLEASE GET THIS BRAINSUCKING ALIEN OUT OF MY HEAD!"
This is a little shocking, I was just thinking HP needs to fancy up to Ubuntu after I played with a Touchsmart a little while ago.
MY DEAD FLESH IS MY OWN! Wherever I go, I'm constantly sweeping and vacuuming up my natural debris! I got so tired of all the work now I just wear a wetsuit all the time. It's worth the wrinkly skin and the strange looks I get all the time. I'll kill that grocery bagger if he calls me Scuba Steve one more time... and then no one will know it's me because I KNOW HOW TO COVER MY TRACKS! AHHAHAHAH! No one will know, I, John Doe, was behind it all along!
I don't know, if they didn't follow the conditions the evidence then it could probably be held as inadmissible. This thing seems like such a strikingly bad idea but I can't help but see the benefits, especially with this stipulation.
Is that the new Ubuntu distribution that replaces SuDo with a little paperclip that tells you you're about to fuck things up?
I've noticed this interesting belief that many people seem to have is that supposed "market share" is equivalent to "winning".
That's not the best comparison. There already existed and effective treatment.
With AIDS, it's expensive and delaying the inevitable, and that inevitable without intervention is a considerably short amount of time. If this can be proven to be effective, it'll make it's way along pretty quickly.
Or make your other treatments somehow ineffective and cut your remaining time to a fraction.
That's only a concern on controlled experiments and FDA drug trials. I mean, that's how most people first get access to new drugs, but if get yourself in there fast enough you can go straight to primary testing, depending on the researchers. Then you have the fun of almost zero experience of what the procedure can do!
But then Microsoft will come 'save the day' with their own search service and we'll have fascism^2
Have you even used Vista? I have had ZERO problems with apps not being able to run, and I run some pretty obscure stuff.
Try some late 90's games, particularly Microsoft games.
I know a lot of people who won't read Slashdot anymore for this very reason.
Give us some names and we'll correct the problem.
That is exactly what they're saying, I read the post like, 3 times and that's the only thing I can come up with.
Breastfeeding -> Stealing cars, killing people, having a negative disposition towards authority.
I see three problems with your logic, as well.
Make them play video games?
And then they can use the revenue from the ads to hire GoogleMercs and raise a private GoogleArmy, so that the GoogleArmy can appear to tentatively attack from the edges while the real force, the GoogleArmy goes in and Googles the shit out of them and no one will EVER be able to Google it and know the truth because Google has all the search results. For all the world might know, Italy was lost to a serious strain of Influenza and the only good use of the land anymore was to drop paraservers into the area to do massive work where no human can be.
... Maybe it's already happened.
I'm too chickenshit to go myself, but I'd pay like... 10 bucks to see someone else go!
I don't like Relativity, it's inconvenient for science fiction.
Eh, ME was enough to get me to switch to Slackware.
Supposedly 7 tries to eliminate codependencies, like IE <> Explorer. So, they're ripping off Debian.
Yeah, I can see exactly when I wouldn't want these hardcoded keys, like using a notebook that doesn't have a PGUP/PGDN, so you have to hold the function key. How easy would it be to minimize you browser instead of page down?