Ha ha ha... true, but think about this: if skinny and fit were the average then people would consider fat to be "hot", then chubby ladies would be in high demand by the industry.
In order to be considered beautiful things have to be uncommon too.
"Among the technical solutions it is considering are blurring faces in images, which would require an enormous amount of image processing"
It's not like they just drop the photographs and they're ready to be used by the application, they already go through some sort of process to get the cylindrical effect, so adding some sort of face and text recognition and then blurring to the mix doesn't sound like a bad idea, and i guess that would make everyone happy.
yep, that is true, people from the world dislike the US government but not the people, we are smarter than most (notice i said most and not all) Americans in separating the two.
At most we criticize Americans because most (notice i said most and not all) of them have no interest at all in other cultures, for example, when someone from Europe comes to Mexico they go to the museums, pyramids, eat the local food and try to mix with the locals. Also most people from Europe speak at least two languages. When Americans come to Mexico the first thing they ask is "where is the nearest Mac Donald's?".
Yep, most (notice i said most and not all) Americans don't care at all about anything outside their own little greatness, but that doesn't make them bad persons, just ignorants.
A long time ago i used to feel offended when Americans flamed at me on message boards and chats for being Mexican, but then i realized that in fact it is nothing against me, they do the same with Latinos, Afro Americans, Orientals, Arabs etc... you name it, most (notice i said most and not all) Americans were simply educated to dislike anyone that's different.
Adobe claims that Flash is the best platform to develop Rich Internet Applications.
What company is the one developing the most and best Internet Applications and reaching the broader audience right now?..... Google, are they using Flash?.... NO!
Not counting the Youtube video player, and the charts in Analytics it's amazing that the developers at Google prefer to go through the horrendous hassle of developing something as complex as a spreadsheet editor using something as archaic as javascript, developing it with actionscript would be faster, easier and the results would be much better, but it seems like Google doesn't want anything to do with Flash at the moment.
Will this recent move by Adobe change the way they're perceived by Google?... is that one of their intentions?
I've always thought that Flash should go completely open souce, and then Adobe should join forces with Google and Mozilla to create a full featured web platform and destroy Microsoft once and for all, i hope i live to see that day.
I agree, they've done some other good things recently:
collaborating with mozilla in the tamarin project
open sourcing the flex libraries and compiler, which by the way is in fact an actionscript compiler, meaning you can develop any actionscript application with it, not just flex
Yep, i looks like they're moving in the right direction, i think they are aware of SVG and SMIL, and they realize that eventually they'll have to open source the player too if they don't want the flash platform to disappear.
Ok i'll make my point clearer, first i admit that i misunderstood the parent post, he was talking about presentation and presentation only so yes, i confused content and logic with presentation, my mistake.
I didn't mean to say that good presentation is not important, however i am convinced that function should never be sacrificed for presentation when developing websites, and most graphic designers believe the opposite, why?.. because most of them don't perceive websites as systems, and of course they also have little or no experience designing systems.
It was a nice experiment to see your reactions to surfstation, about ten years ago when most of the "cool" stuff on the web was made by graphic designers this site together with k10k and others were considered the panacea, things have changed a lot since those days indeed.
i totally disagree, i know by experience that people who design for print always create unusable things when designing layouts for the web, (or any other interface for an application), simply because most of them are ignorant about the many things that really make a good website (good content, intuitive navigation and content structure, providing ways for the user to interact with the site by adding content to it etc...).
Instead of the really important aspects, graphic designers prioritize little stupid details like round corners, drop shadows etc... when designing for the web, and they are convinced that these details will make their site successful, they are clueless! (most of them are egocentric bitches too but that's another story)
Take as an example this site, it's gorgeus, still most people don't know it and those who do probably visit it once and never come back.
Of course a good design adds a lot to a website, but for me it's just the icing on the cake.
I hand code everything by hand too, it's the best way for me.
I used to use Dreamweaver years ago when i was learning html and i think it's really great for starters, cause you don't have to learn lots of different tags and their attributes to start making websites, in fact i think it actually helped me to learn html.
But as soon as i got a good grasp of html and started coding in php DW just didn't feel right, plus i got tired of all the crappy html it generates automatically, so i started trying different text editors until i found Emacs.
Today i code every single piece of code i write in any language using Emacs and i totally love it, for me it has several advantages:
1 - you don't have to use the mouse to move fast in your files, (in fact you don't have to use a mouse at all)
2 - there are editing modes for php, css, javascript, html, xml etc....
3 - you can automate common tasks by writing your own skeletons and lisp functions, this makes you even faster
4 - it's already installed in almost every linux desktop or server
5 - you can make quick adjustments by logging to your webserver via ssh and running emacs there, instead of editing, uploading, editing, uploading, editing, uploading....
So in my own experience i would recommend Dreamweaver or other wysiwyg editor to anyone just starting in html, and i think most of those will drop DW eventually.
For me Metallica as musicians reached their highest quality level with "Master of Puppets", which imho is a true masterpiece.
I think "And justice for all" is nothing but a decent album, also it was their first one without former bass player Cliff Burton and the first one that yielded a music video for MTV, the quality of their music started declining fast from this point.
It looks like Cliff Burton was responsible for the honesty and power of the band's sound in their early years, when he died Metallica lost its edge and started its transformation into just another mainstream band, and also a crappy one btw.
For me it's clear that these guys care about nothing but the money now, they have proved that they don't give a shit about their fans in the past, if they are considering the idea of releasing their music for free now i am sure their main motivation is bringing them more profit, the fact that they would be benefiting their fans is just a secondary effect that they don't care about.
Being from Mexico i'm happy to see that Mexican film directors are becoming successful worldwide with films like Amores Perros and Babel among others, and soon The Hobbit.
With Live Mesh one will be able to access their home pc, access it's content and even run programs on it remotely, pcs using it will be exposed to the outside world.
Now, we all know that microsucks products are every hacker's favorite target, we also now they are shitware, and they are closed source, meaning that bug fixes and security updates can only be provided by them and only them.
Oh man!... i cannot even start to imagine the amount and sort of exploits there will be for this thing, it will be a hell of a lot of work to maintain a thing like this being closed source, which means no help from the developer community worldwide.
Good luck with that microsucks, i'll enjoy watching you go down in flames.
Everyone i know who's into graphic design and/or press prefers mac os, Apple realized this a long long time ago and they built they specialized in providing solutions specifically targeted to this niche.
Also everyone i know (including myself) who is developing for the web prefer linux, obviously for the server, but also for our desktops, any company could make business by providing solutions for this group of users.
So true, companies should stop thinking "it's not worth it if it doesn't have or will reach a 90% market share"
I give it a thumbs up, in the end it's all done with the interest of protecting the users.
Besides probably people don't know that their browsers are unsafe, in that case you would be making them a favor by informing them of this fact.
I wonder how come a company like Apple is not implementing features found in other free products in their own... are Apple's developers lazy?... maybe they're thinking: "why waste my time and resources in providing my clients with features they don't even know they could use and have never asked for?".
This is pretty bad for a company that actually gets most of it's money directly from the end users of their products and i applaud every time someone provides them with the bad publicity they deserve.
It's actually worrying to see that such extreme measures are even being considered, in the present and future world access to the internet is as necessary as access to electricity or water, how can the record industry make politicians even consider depriving people of such a vital mean for communication and access to information.
Imagine telling your son that he cannot have a connection at home to do some research for school and educate himself because the government banned his parents in order to protect the interests of some greedy bastards, who the hell do these politicians work for?... i just hope the people remember who are the ones pushing these stupid laws the next time they go to vote.
If the EU approved these laws they would all of a sudden have created millions of supposed criminals, it's nonsense!
I am so happy that the record industry is dying, i invite every one to do it's part in rushing it's well deserved death.
The guys who develop those sites know a couple of JavaScript tricks that they love, but don't know how to make them work in Firefox, Safari etc... and they are too lazy to try to learn.
They are idiots and the guys who hire them are clueless.
Why do common people still use IE?
For the same reason i don't care if my microwave oven is one brand or another or has certain functions or not, as long as i can heat a cup of coffee and a slice of pizza in it that's fine for me.
BUT........
The day my second class poorly manufactured microwave oven explodes i go and get a decent one.
Same thing for IE users, the day their bank account, passwords and other sensitive data gets stolen, they get spyware | adware or their data gets erased they go and get a decent browser.
Slashdot Mirror
Also religions seem to use more subtle and slow methods for brain washing, cults generally try to get more dramatic results quicker.
If we called a rock some other name would that rock be any different?
Ha ha ha... true, but think about this: if skinny and fit were the average then people would consider fat to be "hot", then chubby ladies would be in high demand by the industry.
In order to be considered beautiful things have to be uncommon too.
"Among the technical solutions it is considering are blurring faces in images, which would require an enormous amount of image processing"
It's not like they just drop the photographs and they're ready to be used by the application, they already go through some sort of process to get the cylindrical effect, so adding some sort of face and text recognition and then blurring to the mix doesn't sound like a bad idea, and i guess that would make everyone happy.
yep, that is true, people from the world dislike the US government but not the people, we are smarter than most (notice i said most and not all) Americans in separating the two.
At most we criticize Americans because most (notice i said most and not all) of them have no interest at all in other cultures, for example, when someone from Europe comes to Mexico they go to the museums, pyramids, eat the local food and try to mix with the locals. Also most people from Europe speak at least two languages. When Americans come to Mexico the first thing they ask is "where is the nearest Mac Donald's?".
Yep, most (notice i said most and not all) Americans don't care at all about anything outside their own little greatness, but that doesn't make them bad persons, just ignorants.
A long time ago i used to feel offended when Americans flamed at me on message boards and chats for being Mexican, but then i realized that in fact it is nothing against me, they do the same with Latinos, Afro Americans, Orientals, Arabs etc... you name it, most (notice i said most and not all) Americans were simply educated to dislike anyone that's different.
Just a thought but i've been wondering this:
Adobe claims that Flash is the best platform to develop Rich Internet Applications.
What company is the one developing the most and best Internet Applications and reaching the broader audience right now?..... Google, are they using Flash?.... NO!
Not counting the Youtube video player, and the charts in Analytics it's amazing that the developers at Google prefer to go through the horrendous hassle of developing something as complex as a spreadsheet editor using something as archaic as javascript, developing it with actionscript would be faster, easier and the results would be much better, but it seems like Google doesn't want anything to do with Flash at the moment.
Will this recent move by Adobe change the way they're perceived by Google?... is that one of their intentions?
I've always thought that Flash should go completely open souce, and then Adobe should join forces with Google and Mozilla to create a full featured web platform and destroy Microsoft once and for all, i hope i live to see that day.
I agree, they've done some other good things recently:
collaborating with mozilla in the tamarin project
open sourcing the flex libraries and compiler, which by the way is in fact an actionscript compiler, meaning you can develop any actionscript application with it, not just flex
Yep, i looks like they're moving in the right direction, i think they are aware of SVG and SMIL, and they realize that eventually they'll have to open source the player too if they don't want the flash platform to disappear.
if you are using ubuntu or debian you just have to type this on a terminal:
sudo apt-get install php-mode
or download it here
Some very interesting, replies here.
Ok i'll make my point clearer, first i admit that i misunderstood the parent post, he was talking about presentation and presentation only so yes, i confused content and logic with presentation, my mistake.
I didn't mean to say that good presentation is not important, however i am convinced that function should never be sacrificed for presentation when developing websites, and most graphic designers believe the opposite, why?.. because most of them don't perceive websites as systems, and of course they also have little or no experience designing systems.
It was a nice experiment to see your reactions to surfstation, about ten years ago when most of the "cool" stuff on the web was made by graphic designers this site together with k10k and others were considered the panacea, things have changed a lot since those days indeed.
i totally disagree, i know by experience that people who design for print always create unusable things when designing layouts for the web, (or any other interface for an application), simply because most of them are ignorant about the many things that really make a good website (good content, intuitive navigation and content structure, providing ways for the user to interact with the site by adding content to it etc...).
Instead of the really important aspects, graphic designers prioritize little stupid details like round corners, drop shadows etc... when designing for the web, and they are convinced that these details will make their site successful, they are clueless! (most of them are egocentric bitches too but that's another story)
Take as an example this site, it's gorgeus, still most people don't know it and those who do probably visit it once and never come back.
Of course a good design adds a lot to a website, but for me it's just the icing on the cake.
you can write a javascript that centers your content vertically when the page loads and everytime it's resized, something like:
window.onresize = function(){
my_div.style.top = ((window.innerHeight - my_div.style.height) / 2).toString() + "px";
}
the above code is just an example, i just wanted to illustrate the idea
I hand code everything by hand too, it's the best way for me.
I used to use Dreamweaver years ago when i was learning html and i think it's really great for starters, cause you don't have to learn lots of different tags and their attributes to start making websites, in fact i think it actually helped me to learn html.
But as soon as i got a good grasp of html and started coding in php DW just didn't feel right, plus i got tired of all the crappy html it generates automatically, so i started trying different text editors until i found Emacs.
Today i code every single piece of code i write in any language using Emacs and i totally love it, for me it has several advantages:
1 - you don't have to use the mouse to move fast in your files, (in fact you don't have to use a mouse at all)
2 - there are editing modes for php, css, javascript, html, xml etc....
3 - you can automate common tasks by writing your own skeletons and lisp functions, this makes you even faster
4 - it's already installed in almost every linux desktop or server
5 - you can make quick adjustments by logging to your webserver via ssh and running emacs there, instead of editing, uploading, editing, uploading, editing, uploading....
So in my own experience i would recommend Dreamweaver or other wysiwyg editor to anyone just starting in html, and i think most of those will drop DW eventually.
This looks more like the kind of stuff that some programmer created just to amaze other programmers.
If it's gonna end up being a js app it makes more sense to me to code it in js from start to finish, i don't see the point in coding it in java first.
But anyway, amazing stuff!
For me Metallica as musicians reached their highest quality level with "Master of Puppets", which imho is a true masterpiece.
I think "And justice for all" is nothing but a decent album, also it was their first one without former bass player Cliff Burton and the first one that yielded a music video for MTV, the quality of their music started declining fast from this point.
It looks like Cliff Burton was responsible for the honesty and power of the band's sound in their early years, when he died Metallica lost its edge and started its transformation into just another mainstream band, and also a crappy one btw.
For me it's clear that these guys care about nothing but the money now, they have proved that they don't give a shit about their fans in the past, if they are considering the idea of releasing their music for free now i am sure their main motivation is bringing them more profit, the fact that they would be benefiting their fans is just a secondary effect that they don't care about.
Being from Mexico i'm happy to see that Mexican film directors are becoming successful worldwide with films like Amores Perros and Babel among others, and soon The Hobbit.
Good job Guillermo!
With Live Mesh one will be able to access their home pc, access it's content and even run programs on it remotely, pcs using it will be exposed to the outside world.
Now, we all know that microsucks products are every hacker's favorite target, we also now they are shitware, and they are closed source, meaning that bug fixes and security updates can only be provided by them and only them.
Oh man!... i cannot even start to imagine the amount and sort of exploits there will be for this thing, it will be a hell of a lot of work to maintain a thing like this being closed source, which means no help from the developer community worldwide.
Good luck with that microsucks, i'll enjoy watching you go down in flames.
Word!
Everyone i know who's into graphic design and/or press prefers mac os, Apple realized this a long long time ago and they built they specialized in providing solutions specifically targeted to this niche.
Also everyone i know (including myself) who is developing for the web prefer linux, obviously for the server, but also for our desktops, any company could make business by providing solutions for this group of users.
So true, companies should stop thinking "it's not worth it if it doesn't have or will reach a 90% market share"
I give it a thumbs up, in the end it's all done with the interest of protecting the users.
Besides probably people don't know that their browsers are unsafe, in that case you would be making them a favor by informing them of this fact.
I wonder how come a company like Apple is not implementing features found in other free products in their own... are Apple's developers lazy?... maybe they're thinking: "why waste my time and resources in providing my clients with features they don't even know they could use and have never asked for?".
This is pretty bad for a company that actually gets most of it's money directly from the end users of their products and i applaud every time someone provides them with the bad publicity they deserve.
It's actually worrying to see that such extreme measures are even being considered, in the present and future world access to the internet is as necessary as access to electricity or water, how can the record industry make politicians even consider depriving people of such a vital mean for communication and access to information.
Imagine telling your son that he cannot have a connection at home to do some research for school and educate himself because the government banned his parents in order to protect the interests of some greedy bastards, who the hell do these politicians work for?... i just hope the people remember who are the ones pushing these stupid laws the next time they go to vote.
If the EU approved these laws they would all of a sudden have created millions of supposed criminals, it's nonsense!
I am so happy that the record industry is dying, i invite every one to do it's part in rushing it's well deserved death.
The guys who develop those sites know a couple of JavaScript tricks that they love, but don't know how to make them work in Firefox, Safari etc... and they are too lazy to try to learn. They are idiots and the guys who hire them are clueless. Why do common people still use IE? For the same reason i don't care if my microwave oven is one brand or another or has certain functions or not, as long as i can heat a cup of coffee and a slice of pizza in it that's fine for me. BUT........ The day my second class poorly manufactured microwave oven explodes i go and get a decent one. Same thing for IE users, the day their bank account, passwords and other sensitive data gets stolen, they get spyware | adware or their data gets erased they go and get a decent browser.