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I had been using mosix for quite a while until recently. The 2.4.13+ext3+mosix release didn't even work properly with all of my hardware, oddly my networking refused to work at all; other kernels had no problems, a kernel built with the same.config worked fine on another box.
Anyway, I had noticed that 2.4.13 was sticking around awhile.. meanwhile, the page was being updated.. adding some information about a user-space version and the 'disclaimer' on the download page.
Mosix sounds like a good thing, but in reality it isn't very suitable for many of my common tasks. The biggest problem is the lack of support for programs using shared memory. Apache, Mysql, these do not migrate. Also, programs using Xwindows will not migrate well.. as they are network bound and will migrate back to their home node once they need to report the the Xserver. Basically, don't install mosix on 10 of your home machines and expect any kind of performance increase.. besides, you could probably toss out your dual 1ghz PIII, replace it with a 400mhz celeron and not notice a difference.
It would be nice if there was a transparent pseudo layer for things like X.. where all of the machines have their IP for communicating via mosix.. but all 'outside' communication would be made via mosix though a 'public' ip. That public IP would then be used to connect to the Xserver; hence, apps network bound could migrate easily as they would still have the same IP and (spoofed) Mac address. Basically it would be building a NAT router into Mosix for the idea of being able to migrate network-bound applications. It sounds more complicated then it is, but less complicated then it is to impliment.. and I probably don't make any sense, but I know what I mean:) I do of course, assume that source IP is the biggest stumbling block in migrating network-bound applications.
You do realize that the GPL, BSD, and many other licenses you love.. also allow this. You can think of a software license like a firewall.
Microsoft has a default deny policy, and then states what rights they and you have.
Most open source licenses have a default accept/allow policy, only denying few things. When you agree to a GPL or BSD license, you are agreeing to the same thing as you have no warrenty.. just restrictions on what you may do with the source.
All this is saying is that Microsft software is one step more 'free'.. Oh, how the slashdot trolls are afraid of their government removing their freedom, but more afraid of giving Microsoft some.
SGI Monitors are Sync-on-green and there are plenty of them that have dual connectors.. both 13w3 (sgi/sun connector) and HD15 (IBM PC). HD15 is also easily convertable to DB15 available on most macs (except some new ones with HD15).
SGI monitors can go for quite cheap, although they are very good quality. I recently purchased as refurbished (but in EXCELLENT quality) SGI monitor with dual inputs for $175. The casing, unfortunately was cracked in shipment.. given the choice of a check for $75 or replacement, I chose the check. $100 for a 20" Sony Trinitron tube with dual-inputs.. is quite a decent deal:)
I'm waiting on a high-quality HD15 cable to arrive via mail to test out the dual-input stuff.. but the 13w3 connected to my SGI Octane is quite good:)
And would eatting the meal be considered illegal as well? Imagine giving it to the judge of the DeCSS case.. having him eat it, and then explain to him what he has just eatten:)
The mice and graphics are very simple to do with Xfree86. The question is about the keyboard. With USB, it could be hackable.. but as linux is now, I am aware of no way to use multiple keyboards on a single box.
Problem was that you waited until they hit the bargin-bin. Loki's site still charges premium prices.. but if you shop at a reseller, those games are already in the clearance shelves.
So what is replacing it? I know you did not just suggest that IDE is actually worth anything.
I would really like to see you run servers on IDE.. HaHa. You are not just a troll, but a stupid one.
SCSI will not die any time soon. If it does, it will be replaced by Fibre Channel.. You couldn't pay me to use an IDE disk anymore, except maybe to boot legacy (x86) hardware with so I can boot from an NFS sever.. for a workstation.
For a server, IDE has no place. Half-duplex, cpu intensive, unreliable, do I need to say more? Oh, and incrediably limited in the number of disks. Raid5 array of IDE? yeah right. You can only have 8 IDE disks in a system, all of which use interrupts.
AIM and ICQ now use the some PROTOCOL called Oscar. This is a gigantic step towards making them able to message each other. So no, AOL has not been sitting on their hands with ICQ.
XMMS is not Winamp's linux counterpart. XMMS is similiar, but unrelated software. Winamp itself actually has a linux version, called Winamp. Interpreting what I said as if I meant that AOL produced either GTK or Tcl/Tk would be as misguided as saying that I wrote Windows95 because my software runs on it. GTK and Tcl/Tk are used by AOL's two linux clients (The Tcl/Tk version actually runs on more then linux)
AOL buys all sorts of stuff and is doing exactly what one would expect. They now have their grips on all the popular media: Chat, Music, Browsing, Internet connectivity, and Operating System.
Oh, and since they own it all.. they have a very good distribution plan. Care for an AOL cd that does everything 90% of HOME users need, including providing a stable operating system/environment?
After they ship out a few million cds, have every mom and pop running Linux on their converted Windows machines, AOL can then get into the hardware business. Selling non-x86 machines with their software installed, something their users will be able to easily migrate to becuase they will not be locked into the x86 architecture anymore.
Eventually AOL will stop supporting their software on x86 and Windows. Everyone will be converted to Linux. Everyone but Microsoft and the trolls will be happy.
Of course, this will probably just introduce a whole new and unlimited supply of script kiddies;)
My point was simply that AOL, both directly and though its daughter companies have been producing software for Linux. The software they have been producing are all very important (or at least popular) forms of media.
Take Winamp, AIM, Netscape, their ISP software, their CD-spamming methods, add a little bit of Redhat and you will have a very powerful company. One that will really change Linux on the desktop and will easily have the power to overcome the Microsoft monopoly. This could be a very good thing.
AOL is trying to move to Netscape based services.. although I believe they are currently under contract with MS. ICQ now uses the Oscar (AIM) protocol, AIM and ICQ are now the same. Nullsoft, well.. first of all, Nullsoft has a very popular mp3 player from what I hear.. which is also being ported to linux (slow and buggy, though).
AOL also owns Netscape which has cross platform browsers. AOL also provided Tik, a tcl/tk AIM client and a native linux port using Gtk. As well as a native (but unreleased) Linux client for AOL ISP services.
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AOL won't dare produce their own distribution that is incompatable with current linux installs; they would get chewed up in the same grinder BeOS did. What AOL will do is get lots of users one less reason to use Windows and port a lot of good applications to Xwindows/linux.
AOL is not new to linux, but it has been a snake in the grass waiting to strike. Sure, they will be a big company.. but they will do great things, for linux on the desktop; if linux on the desktop is something you really want. This can be a very good thing. As long as the masses realize that that Redhat/AOL != Linux. Redhat has already ported/developed via their several daughter companies an almost complete suite of multimedia applications for Linux; This will be their final slap in the face to Microsoft.
I use 802.11b, a card in my server.. and a card for my Visor.
But you could use IR too, for a remote control. There are lots of things you could do, it just depends on how much you wish to spend.. and what you currently have available.
Interesting. I have never had a problem with any of my USB equipment, minus one due to a faulty USB chipset made by AMD. Note, I haven't touched a windows machine since before the days of USB.. so all my experience is with Linux, some experience with MacOS.
I bought a pci usb card for my sister's computer.. attached mice, scanner (hp3300), and a printer. No problem.
One machine of mine has an AMD Viper chipset, due to a bug in the chipset.. it will cause my system to do a hard reboot occasionally. I use a mouse on this system with no problems, but my handspring visor will historically crash it quite quickly.
Pentium II, Intel chipset. No problems at all, tried the Visor and an Epson printer.
Asus BP6, Intel PII board.. same machine, different boards. Mice, Visor. No problems.
I wonder why USB sucks so much. It works fine for me (minus one due to the fault(s) of AMD)
I think USB is only supposed to be run in lengths of 10ft.
I cannot see any reason this device would be helpful for you.
First you need a server. Just run one of many mp3 players on the machine and control it externally via a program/webpage. Or run ESD, NAS, or ARTs on the box, and give it any sound data you wish. A maximum of 30ft of Cat5 to the server is fine.
Regardless of where the sound is coming out of, it still needs to get fed to your stereo.. so just run some cables from it to your stereo. So, run some cables.. whatever the length is from your server, run it. I don't know how long certain cables can be, but I'm sure optical ones may reach quite far.
The only reason you would need this is if your server does not have any existing soundcar, but then again.. you could just get a regular soundcard which would probably be both cheaper and better quality.
I would really like to see a Teletext-like system deployed in the USA and in NTSC television sets.
My fiancee' has no internet connectivity due to poor quality telephone lines and ISPs in her country.. but she has Teletext and for many things, it is enough.
It is true that my dad's comcast digital tv isn't great and truely does his HDTV recieving a great injustice.. AND it forces additional ads on you..
But, I have adelphia and the quality is FAR superior to most analog signals. Of course, with high quality cabling the analog may be better.. but to find a place with such cabling is impossible.. considering how far it must run.
My digital-tv reciever connects to my computer via s-video and I have terrific results.
There is nothing wrong with proprietary, as long as it is not considered STANDARD. It is like making (government fianced) roads which require you to have Microsoft Car, or you cannot drive it.. and Microsoft Car costs hundreds of dollars and cannot have any competitors. Now, if it relied on an OPEN standard like ordinary rubber tires.. anyone could make a car and freely join the market place.
It is about being able to have competition and to make it compatable for those who don't always follow the crowd (such as linux or mac users)
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I had been using mosix for quite a while until recently. The 2.4.13+ext3+mosix release didn't even work properly with all of my hardware, oddly my networking refused to work at all; other kernels had no problems, a kernel built with the same .config worked fine on another box.
:) I do of course, assume that source IP is the biggest stumbling block in migrating network-bound applications.
Anyway, I had noticed that 2.4.13 was sticking around awhile.. meanwhile, the page was being updated.. adding some information about a user-space version and the 'disclaimer' on the download page.
Mosix sounds like a good thing, but in reality it isn't very suitable for many of my common tasks. The biggest problem is the lack of support for programs using shared memory. Apache, Mysql, these do not migrate. Also, programs using Xwindows will not migrate well.. as they are network bound and will migrate back to their home node once they need to report the the Xserver. Basically, don't install mosix on 10 of your home machines and expect any kind of performance increase.. besides, you could probably toss out your dual 1ghz PIII, replace it with a 400mhz celeron and not notice a difference.
It would be nice if there was a transparent pseudo layer for things like X.. where all of the machines have their IP for communicating via mosix.. but all 'outside' communication would be made via mosix though a 'public' ip. That public IP would then be used to connect to the Xserver; hence, apps network bound could migrate easily as they would still have the same IP and (spoofed) Mac address. Basically it would be building a NAT router into Mosix for the idea of being able to migrate network-bound applications. It sounds more complicated then it is, but less complicated then it is to impliment.. and I probably don't make any sense, but I know what I mean
You do realize that the GPL, BSD, and many other licenses you love.. also allow this. You can think of a software license like a firewall.
Microsoft has a default deny policy, and then states what rights they and you have.
Most open source licenses have a default accept/allow policy, only denying few things. When you agree to a GPL or BSD license, you are agreeing to the same thing as you have no warrenty.. just restrictions on what you may do with the source.
All this is saying is that Microsft software is one step more 'free'.. Oh, how the slashdot trolls are afraid of their government removing their freedom, but more afraid of giving Microsoft some.
Hipocrites. People make me laugh.
SGI Monitors are Sync-on-green and there are plenty of them that have dual connectors.. both 13w3 (sgi/sun connector) and HD15 (IBM PC). HD15 is also easily convertable to DB15 available on most macs (except some new ones with HD15).
.. is quite a decent deal :)
:)
SGI monitors can go for quite cheap, although they are very good quality. I recently purchased as refurbished (but in EXCELLENT quality) SGI monitor with dual inputs for $175. The casing, unfortunately was cracked in shipment.. given the choice of a check for $75 or replacement, I chose the check. $100 for a 20" Sony Trinitron tube with dual-inputs
I'm waiting on a high-quality HD15 cable to arrive via mail to test out the dual-input stuff.. but the 13w3 connected to my SGI Octane is quite good
And would eatting the meal be considered illegal as well? Imagine giving it to the judge of the DeCSS case.. having him eat it, and then explain to him what he has just eatten :)
:)
I think he would become very forgiving
There is Linux software as well, of course.. it is not officially supported, but what is ? :)
The mice and graphics are very simple to do with Xfree86. The question is about the keyboard. With USB, it could be hackable.. but as linux is now, I am aware of no way to use multiple keyboards on a single box.
Problem was that you waited until they hit the bargin-bin. Loki's site still charges premium prices.. but if you shop at a reseller, those games are already in the clearance shelves.
x86? Windows? What are these things you speak of.
:)
Ok, so I have 2 x86 boxen. One running OpenBSD, another running Linux.. Likely both will soon be moved to FreeBSD.
Other then that, SGI and PowerPC are doing quite well here
I already picked up most of their games for $5 at Electronics Boutique a month ago :)
So what is replacing it? I know you did not just suggest that IDE is actually worth anything.
I would really like to see you run servers on IDE.. HaHa. You are not just a troll, but a stupid one.
SCSI will not die any time soon. If it does, it will be replaced by Fibre Channel.. You couldn't pay me to use an IDE disk anymore, except maybe to boot legacy (x86) hardware with so I can boot from an NFS sever.. for a workstation.
For a server, IDE has no place. Half-duplex, cpu intensive, unreliable, do I need to say more? Oh, and incrediably limited in the number of disks. Raid5 array of IDE? yeah right. You can only have 8 IDE disks in a system, all of which use interrupts.
Links to where anyone at slashdot or freshmeat claimed that their problems were caused by Mylex controllers? Or should I just take your word on it?
AIM and ICQ now use the some PROTOCOL called Oscar. This is a gigantic step towards making them able to message each other. So no, AOL has not been sitting on their hands with ICQ.
;)
XMMS is not Winamp's linux counterpart. XMMS is similiar, but unrelated software. Winamp itself actually has a linux version, called Winamp. Interpreting what I said as if I meant that AOL produced either GTK or Tcl/Tk would be as misguided as saying that I wrote Windows95 because my software runs on it. GTK and Tcl/Tk are used by AOL's two linux clients (The Tcl/Tk version actually runs on more then linux)
AOL buys all sorts of stuff and is doing exactly what one would expect. They now have their grips on all the popular media: Chat, Music, Browsing, Internet connectivity, and Operating System.
Oh, and since they own it all.. they have a very good distribution plan. Care for an AOL cd that does everything 90% of HOME users need, including providing a stable operating system/environment?
After they ship out a few million cds, have every mom and pop running Linux on their converted Windows machines, AOL can then get into the hardware business. Selling non-x86 machines with their software installed, something their users will be able to easily migrate to becuase they will not be locked into the x86 architecture anymore.
Eventually AOL will stop supporting their software on x86 and Windows. Everyone will be converted to Linux. Everyone but Microsoft and the trolls will be happy.
Of course, this will probably just introduce a whole new and unlimited supply of script kiddies
Thank you for explaining that to him ;)
My point was simply that AOL, both directly and though its daughter companies have been producing software for Linux. The software they have been producing are all very important (or at least popular) forms of media.
Take Winamp, AIM, Netscape, their ISP software, their CD-spamming methods, add a little bit of Redhat and you will have a very powerful company. One that will really change Linux on the desktop and will easily have the power to overcome the Microsoft monopoly. This could be a very good thing.
But that would upset RMS in a strange, ironic, twist of logic.
AOL is trying to move to Netscape based services.. although I believe they are currently under contract with MS. ICQ now uses the Oscar (AIM) protocol, AIM and ICQ are now the same. Nullsoft, well.. first of all, Nullsoft has a very popular mp3 player from what I hear.. which is also being ported to linux (slow and buggy, though).
AOL also owns Netscape which has cross platform browsers. AOL also provided Tik, a tcl/tk AIM client and a native linux port using Gtk. As well as a native (but unreleased) Linux client for AOL ISP services.
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AOL won't dare produce their own distribution that is incompatable with current linux installs; they would get chewed up in the same grinder BeOS did. What AOL will do is get lots of users one less reason to use Windows and port a lot of good applications to Xwindows/linux.
AOL is not new to linux, but it has been a snake in the grass waiting to strike. Sure, they will be a big company.. but they will do great things, for linux on the desktop; if linux on the desktop is something you really want. This can be a very good thing. As long as the masses realize that that Redhat/AOL != Linux. Redhat has already ported/developed via their several daughter companies an almost complete suite of multimedia applications for Linux; This will be their final slap in the face to Microsoft.
mostly harmless, in relation to the universe.
Although "mostly harmless, mostly suicidal" would fit the bill quite well.
Actually, these will play in linux. The first two leisure suit larry games, and possibly the 3rd.. were interpreted.
This interpreter for Xwindows will play those classic games (and more)o your unix platform of choice. http://freesci.linuxgames.com/
I use 802.11b, a card in my server.. and a card for my Visor.
But you could use IR too, for a remote control. There are lots of things you could do, it just depends on how much you wish to spend.. and what you currently have available.
Interesting. I have never had a problem with any of my USB equipment, minus one due to a faulty USB chipset made by AMD. Note, I haven't touched a windows machine since before the days of USB.. so all my experience is with Linux, some experience with MacOS.
I bought a pci usb card for my sister's computer.. attached mice, scanner (hp3300), and a printer. No problem.
One machine of mine has an AMD Viper chipset, due to a bug in the chipset.. it will cause my system to do a hard reboot occasionally. I use a mouse on this system with no problems, but my handspring visor will historically crash it quite quickly.
Pentium II, Intel chipset. No problems at all, tried the Visor and an Epson printer.
Asus BP6, Intel PII board.. same machine, different boards. Mice, Visor. No problems.
I wonder why USB sucks so much. It works fine for me (minus one due to the fault(s) of AMD)
I think USB is only supposed to be run in lengths of 10ft.
I cannot see any reason this device would be helpful for you.
First you need a server. Just run one of many mp3 players on the machine and control it externally via a program/webpage. Or run ESD, NAS, or ARTs on the box, and give it any sound data you wish. A maximum of 30ft of Cat5 to the server is fine.
Regardless of where the sound is coming out of, it still needs to get fed to your stereo.. so just run some cables from it to your stereo. So, run some cables.. whatever the length is from your server, run it. I don't know how long certain cables can be, but I'm sure optical ones may reach quite far.
The only reason you would need this is if your server does not have any existing soundcar, but then again.. you could just get a regular soundcard which would probably be both cheaper and better quality.
Yes, this is nothing new.. but it is new to timothy, so it is new for us.. right?
BTW: that external soundcard for your cube will work in Linux, not just on your mac.. but also with non-apple hardware.
Hah, very true.. although the original poster meant that it charges the battery via the FireLink.
I would really like to see a Teletext-like system deployed in the USA and in NTSC television sets.
My fiancee' has no internet connectivity due to poor quality telephone lines and ISPs in her country.. but she has Teletext and for many things, it is enough.
It is true that my dad's comcast digital tv isn't great and truely does his HDTV recieving a great injustice.. AND it forces additional ads on you..
But, I have adelphia and the quality is FAR superior to most analog signals. Of course, with high quality cabling the analog may be better.. but to find a place with such cabling is impossible.. considering how far it must run.
My digital-tv reciever connects to my computer via s-video and I have terrific results.
There is nothing wrong with proprietary, as long as it is not considered STANDARD. It is like making (government fianced) roads which require you to have Microsoft Car, or you cannot drive it.. and Microsoft Car costs hundreds of dollars and cannot have any competitors. Now, if it relied on an OPEN standard like ordinary rubber tires.. anyone could make a car and freely join the market place.
It is about being able to have competition and to make it compatable for those who don't always follow the crowd (such as linux or mac users)