I beg to differ, my webpage used to render perfectly fine and IDENTICAL in all browsers and I didn't have to do anything out of the ordinary to make it work; I just write pure clean html the way I always have, learned by reading the W3C's specifications.
This past week, however.. I did do one that that makes one section render a little differently, I moved my "news" section from tables to CSS. It isn't a big deal, it renders in both new and old browsers; although older browsers such as NS4 render the news as text without the tables. I am considering moving it back to the way it was, however.. but the new CSS-enabled one looks so pretty;)
But it renders in Amaya, thats all that matters.. right ?:)
My point was specifically about specific tasks, one of which was 'batching'. I would really like to see you drag and drop hundreds of things when I can just run a long, complicated, but (to me) simple command. I can do it much faster by writing a small batch then you can click the same things 2,000 times. Also, it depends on how fast you can type and how well you know your CLI and corrisponding tools.
Of course, a good GUI tool MAY let you do it faster then me, but the problem is that if you have a very specific need you will need to write custom software to do it. Meanwhile, it is more likely that the existing commandline tools can be used together to perform the function without any additional time being spent on developing a GUI tool.
Although you are right about your parent poster being a troll, it does not mean you are right.
If time is money, and you KNOW HOW to type the commands at a CLI.. then the CLI will be incredably faster then doing it via a GUI. Knowing the CLI is a valuable ADDITION to the GUI. I find it a lot easier and faster to have the ability to pipe commands into each other and perform 'batches'. Sometimes a GUI will be a lot slower or you will have to have custom software written to do that batch via the GUI.
A GUI is NOT faster, but it is stupid and people like stupid. Simple and Visual tasks are more easily accomplished in a gui; but anything complicated or requiring batch processing is definately and certainly faster and more easily done from a CLI.
I love using the Gimp, a graphical tool. But I also love bash, which can aid me in producing art of another kind:)
HTML is crossplatform, easily parsed, and is only being phased out in favour of XHTML which forces it to be a fully parsable XML document.
PDF and Flash are garbage, proprietary.. they will never be able to take a foothold. Javascript (or better yet, ECMAscript) is standard and is ok, although potentially annoying. However, [Java,ECMA]script is totally reliant on HTML; The others, although good for media or layout, are NOT viable alternatives to HTML.
Why don't you go learn something about the technology rather then looking at banner ads and trying to twist your hair into points.
I am pretty sure Zoid was working on Quake after 3.16, who has since left iD Software. I do not know any details, but this may be related to why the source is older..
Doesn't matter much anyway, after it gets hacked for a month or two.. it will have the current bugs fixed, and of course a bunch of new ones to worry about:)
Quakeforge, a project improving the original quake, already has the quake2 source in CVS.. you can find them in #quakeforge on OPN.
I did some work on quakeforge a while back, did some cool things.. but I've moved on, however.. myself and others have come back, although I may or may not make any changes.. as I am busy with some other small project at the moment.
Actually, I do have my email addresses for the contact, billing, and technical for 5 domains and haven't had any problem. I registered directly with OpenSRS (I happen to work for an ISP who resells domains though OpenSRS)
Debian is incredibly easy to setup X in for a new install; it now has a graphical installation utility.. I used it on my sister's computer, it was really cool.
Of course, getting networking working in debian may still seem a blackart to some; although this may be different now as well, I didn't install my sister's computer from removable media so I wouldn't know.
Debian sid currently has its own graphical configuration utility for X and it is really nice. It lets you configure everything including Xinerama displays in a way similar to MacOS.
And I did mention that there ARE graphical installation utilities; although it is easier to just type the one simple command:)
Depending on your linux distribution and where you get your browser from, those things will "just work".. anyway, flash and java shouldn't be part of the browser; they SHOULD have to be gotten as 3rd party addons, they are not standard. If people use these for designing their sights, it does not mean that a browser sucks for not supporting it; it means the webdesigner was dropped on their head as a child.
The intention of X was to be versitile with network transparency.. it has performed it's job well.
I am not going to call this argument about "linux", it is about Unix in general.. Unix can be used as a desktop platform, but it must be configured that way; I don't know when choice became a bad thing. My mom and sister use linux at home, no problems.. they don't need to know much to move around their desktop, although I think I configured their system to behave like the most difficult to use desktop in the world.
Although IIS has 50% of the servermarket, it only hosts a fraction of the websites on the web. NT is just incapable of providing a solid virtualhosting platform, the unix machines are able to hold a much larger number of accounts (and thus, traffic)
True, I don't know about other taxes.. but there is no sales tax in Delaware; a great reason to have a retail store near the border, everyone from other states comes to you:)
Actually, my University was a *real* university and had a strong Computer Science department; no it was not a fly-by-night technical school or speciality school. It was Florida Institute of Technology, such as MIT is Mass. Institute of Technology.
And yes, theory is the most important thing; but it is hard to imagine how many people leave their universities with no skills. I was impressed at how easily some of the completely computer illerate people became semi-competant programmers.. but also was shocked at the complete opposite, how many people I ended up helping because they just didn't know how to RTFM or use simple logic
Anyway, aren't Universities primarily making their money from Undergrads ?:)
Well, its true I did place emphasis on programming languages.. although the point was that many colleges treat CS like a History or Math major; Old ideas and thoughts, keeping the same curriculum year after year. They have professors who either do not keep up with technology and ideas, or the management does not realize that CS is still an expanding and cutting edge field.
80% of the skills you learn in college are obsolete before they teach it to you. College professors are either incrediably under-educated in real-world software development or University policy is too slow to change. This is usually less true with technically-oriented schools in comparison to your more generic universities.
If I see another school basing their Computer Science education on Ada, Cobol, or Pascal.... And this isn't a joke, that is what these schools actually teach.
I went to Florida Institute of Technology for 2 semesters. Their first CSE 1101 course taught Html and Javascript, I skipped this with credit by testing out of it.. Their 2nd, CSE 1102 was Java programming; I was better then the professor in 2 weeks. And then later there were advanced courses in C, x86 asm, etc; although it was officially based on Java. So it was a pretty decent program, for $25,000/yr.
I ended up having to help the seniors with their Java programs as they were taught Ada, but later the professors required their applications to be written in Java.
Actually, most of the l33t people are all running Windows.. They are generally too under educated to handle linux, hell' they can barely handle windows.
If you understand that time is money, realize that to fix a windows machine is either incrediably difficult or impossible; That linux machine will be fixed much sooner. Since the software is
A) written by administrators for administrators, by developers for devlopers, etc.. It is made to be fixable, and there are good logs, etc.
B) Since Opensource software is freely available and obviously open; administrators can either fix problems, find out why there is a problem, or just learn the software a lot better then any microsoft software could ever be known. Opensource programs generate non-proprietary datafiles too, so their configuration files can be repaired.
Ok, maybe Joe Sixpack can't do all the things a seasoned Linux administrator can do.. even if they don't, they can either RTFM, have a seasoned administrator do it, or do it The Windows WayTM and reinstall; it can't be any worse then windows.
Also, Why does linux need phone support? Everyone knows someone running linux, if they don't it isn't hard to find someone; and you can find companies willing to provide support for the right fee.
My K-12 education began with Apple IIe's which was the last Apple hardware bought. They then moved to 486 and eventually Pentium II; who knows what they have since I left... They are probably still running the mangled and terribly insecure NT4, I had their administrative password in the first 2 day.
I have for a long time thought that having desktop icons was a dumb idea. REMOVE them. They are the complete problem here, if the root-window didn't try to emulate a directory folder; there would be no confusion.
This is how it should be: there is a panel at one of the sides of the screen, the rest is a "workspace" where programs visually reside.
The panel/dock should provide some kind of visual clue that things can be added and removed from it. It will now be seen like an advanced kind of menu, rather then an extension of the filesystem.
There really is NO reason to confuse users with having launchers for programs in the same physical area as where programs run; It should be like a windshield in a car, keeping the programs away from the driver.. The controls (and launchers) should all be on the inside of the windshield.
Computere are a lot more like cars then you think.
Verizon DSL has no static-ip offerings. There are some other major down-sides to Verizon, they are liars. The TOS states that you may run services on DSL (but not dialup) connections, however since the dawn of CodeRed they have ignored and broken their own TOS by blocking ports 25 and 80.
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I beg to differ, my webpage used to render perfectly fine and IDENTICAL in all browsers and I didn't have to do anything out of the ordinary to make it work; I just write pure clean html the way I always have, learned by reading the W3C's specifications.
;)
:)
This past week, however.. I did do one that that makes one section render a little differently, I moved my "news" section from tables to CSS. It isn't a big deal, it renders in both new and old browsers; although older browsers such as NS4 render the news as text without the tables. I am considering moving it back to the way it was, however.. but the new CSS-enabled one looks so pretty
But it renders in Amaya, thats all that matters.. right ?
My point was specifically about specific tasks, one of which was 'batching'. I would really like to see you drag and drop hundreds of things when I can just run a long, complicated, but (to me) simple command. I can do it much faster by writing a small batch then you can click the same things 2,000 times. Also, it depends on how fast you can type and how well you know your CLI and corrisponding tools.
Of course, a good GUI tool MAY let you do it faster then me, but the problem is that if you have a very specific need you will need to write custom software to do it. Meanwhile, it is more likely that the existing commandline tools can be used together to perform the function without any additional time being spent on developing a GUI tool.
Although you are right about your parent poster being a troll, it does not mean you are right.
:)
If time is money, and you KNOW HOW to type the commands at a CLI.. then the CLI will be incredably faster then doing it via a GUI. Knowing the CLI is a valuable ADDITION to the GUI. I find it a lot easier and faster to have the ability to pipe commands into each other and perform 'batches'. Sometimes a GUI will be a lot slower or you will have to have custom software written to do that batch via the GUI.
A GUI is NOT faster, but it is stupid and people like stupid. Simple and Visual tasks are more easily accomplished in a gui; but anything complicated or requiring batch processing is definately and certainly faster and more easily done from a CLI.
I love using the Gimp, a graphical tool. But I also love bash, which can aid me in producing art of another kind
You are a troll.
HTML is crossplatform, easily parsed, and is only being phased out in favour of XHTML which forces it to be a fully parsable XML document.
PDF and Flash are garbage, proprietary.. they will never be able to take a foothold. Javascript (or better yet, ECMAscript) is standard and is ok, although potentially annoying. However, [Java,ECMA]script is totally reliant on HTML; The others, although good for media or layout, are NOT viable alternatives to HTML.
Why don't you go learn something about the technology rather then looking at banner ads and trying to twist your hair into points.
Yeah, because IBM and Motorola have no money for R&D.. :) Did you really think apple designed this stuff?
My list of games that work well at lanparties and run under at least Linux and Windows; some other platforms as well.
I am pretty sure Zoid was working on Quake after 3.16, who has since left iD Software. I do not know any details, but this may be related to why the source is older..
:)
Doesn't matter much anyway, after it gets hacked for a month or two.. it will have the current bugs fixed, and of course a bunch of new ones to worry about
Quakeforge, a project improving the original quake, already has the quake2 source in CVS.. you can find them in #quakeforge on OPN.
I did some work on quakeforge a while back, did some cool things.. but I've moved on, however.. myself and others have come back, although I may or may not make any changes.. as I am busy with some other small project at the moment.
Actually, I do have my email addresses for the contact, billing, and technical for 5 domains and haven't had any problem. I registered directly with OpenSRS (I happen to work for an ISP who resells domains though OpenSRS)
If that was so, it wouldn't be in direct competition with Microsoft.. hence, they would have less of a problem :)
Debian is incredibly easy to setup X in for a new install; it now has a graphical installation utility.. I used it on my sister's computer, it was really cool.
Of course, getting networking working in debian may still seem a blackart to some; although this may be different now as well, I didn't install my sister's computer from removable media so I wouldn't know.
Debian sid currently has its own graphical configuration utility for X and it is really nice. It lets you configure everything including Xinerama displays in a way similar to MacOS.
:)
And I did mention that there ARE graphical installation utilities; although it is easier to just type the one simple command
Depending on your linux distribution and where you get your browser from, those things will "just work".. anyway, flash and java shouldn't be part of the browser; they SHOULD have to be gotten as 3rd party addons, they are not standard. If people use these for designing their sights, it does not mean that a browser sucks for not supporting it; it means the webdesigner was dropped on their head as a child.
The intention of X was to be versitile with network transparency.. it has performed it's job well.
I am not going to call this argument about "linux", it is about Unix in general.. Unix can be used as a desktop platform, but it must be configured that way; I don't know when choice became a bad thing. My mom and sister use linux at home, no problems.. they don't need to know much to move around their desktop, although I think I configured their system to behave like the most difficult to use desktop in the world.
In debian, X is really hard to install..
apt-get install x-window-system
There are even programs for X that will let you do that via clicking little buttons.
Very hard.
I suppose mandrake is slightly different:
rpm -i XFree86-*.rpm
Although IIS has 50% of the servermarket, it only hosts a fraction of the websites on the web. NT is just incapable of providing a solid virtualhosting platform, the unix machines are able to hold a much larger number of accounts (and thus, traffic)
True, I don't know about other taxes.. but there is no sales tax in Delaware; a great reason to have a retail store near the border, everyone from other states comes to you :)
I would say I get on average 12-15 spam messages a year. Maybe I just know how to keep my email addresses from falling into the wrong hands?
Actually, my University was a *real* university and had a strong Computer Science department; no it was not a fly-by-night technical school or speciality school. It was Florida Institute of Technology, such as MIT is Mass. Institute of Technology.
:)
And yes, theory is the most important thing; but it is hard to imagine how many people leave their universities with no skills. I was impressed at how easily some of the completely computer illerate people became semi-competant programmers.. but also was shocked at the complete opposite, how many people I ended up helping because they just didn't know how to RTFM or use simple logic
Anyway, aren't Universities primarily making their money from Undergrads ?
Well, its true I did place emphasis on programming languages.. although the point was that many colleges treat CS like a History or Math major; Old ideas and thoughts, keeping the same curriculum year after year. They have professors who either do not keep up with technology and ideas, or the management does not realize that CS is still an expanding and cutting edge field.
80% of the skills you learn in college are obsolete before they teach it to you. College professors are either incrediably under-educated in real-world software development or University policy is too slow to change. This is usually less true with technically-oriented schools in comparison to your more generic universities.
If I see another school basing their Computer Science education on Ada, Cobol, or Pascal.... And this isn't a joke, that is what these schools actually teach.
I went to Florida Institute of Technology for 2 semesters. Their first CSE 1101 course taught Html and Javascript, I skipped this with credit by testing out of it.. Their 2nd, CSE 1102 was Java programming; I was better then the professor in 2 weeks. And then later there were advanced courses in C, x86 asm, etc; although it was officially based on Java. So it was a pretty decent program, for $25,000/yr.
I ended up having to help the seniors with their Java programs as they were taught Ada, but later the professors required their applications to be written in Java.
Actually, most of the l33t people are all running Windows.. They are generally too under educated to handle linux, hell' they can barely handle windows.
If you understand that time is money, realize that to fix a windows machine is either incrediably difficult or impossible; That linux machine will be fixed much sooner. Since the software is
A) written by administrators for administrators, by developers for devlopers, etc.. It is made to be fixable, and there are good logs, etc.
B) Since Opensource software is freely available and obviously open; administrators can either fix problems, find out why there is a problem, or just learn the software a lot better then any microsoft software could ever be known. Opensource programs generate non-proprietary datafiles too, so their configuration files can be repaired.
Ok, maybe Joe Sixpack can't do all the things a seasoned Linux administrator can do.. even if they don't, they can either RTFM, have a seasoned administrator do it, or do it The Windows WayTM and reinstall; it can't be any worse then windows.
Also, Why does linux need phone support? Everyone knows someone running linux, if they don't it isn't hard to find someone; and you can find companies willing to provide support for the right fee.
My K-12 education began with Apple IIe's which was the last Apple hardware bought. They then moved to 486 and eventually Pentium II; who knows what they have since I left... They are probably still running the mangled and terribly insecure NT4, I had their administrative password in the first 2 day.
I have for a long time thought that having desktop icons was a dumb idea. REMOVE them. They are the complete problem here, if the root-window didn't try to emulate a directory folder; there would be no confusion.
This is how it should be: there is a panel at one of the sides of the screen, the rest is a "workspace" where programs visually reside.
The panel/dock should provide some kind of visual clue that things can be added and removed from it. It will now be seen like an advanced kind of menu, rather then an extension of the filesystem.
There really is NO reason to confuse users with having launchers for programs in the same physical area as where programs run; It should be like a windshield in a car, keeping the programs away from the driver.. The controls (and launchers) should all be on the inside of the windshield.
Computere are a lot more like cars then you think.
Verizon DSL has no static-ip offerings. There are some other major down-sides to Verizon, they are liars. The TOS states that you may run services on DSL (but not dialup) connections, however since the dawn of CodeRed they have ignored and broken their own TOS by blocking ports 25 and 80.