"Oh the Ubuntu free help group didn't give me an answer I wanted! Waah! And when tehy did give me an answer that answered the question I posed and told them off that it wasn't the answer I wanted, they told me another way that wasn't what I wanted! Waaah waaah! And when I called them all poopy-heads they said that wasn't very nice of me! They OPPRESSED ME!!!!! Waaaaaaaahhhhhhh!"
FFS, get over it. You don't like Ubuntu, then shut the fuck up about it and use something else.
Your continuation of this stupid little shit storm you created is nauseating in the extreme.
Grow up and move on.
Twat. Are you kidding?? His posts are the definitive example of how not to post on any forum. I'm sure the response he got has recruited many new Ubuntu users too. Any forum that didn't chew up and spit out such a dipstick after the third post has got to be noob tolerant. Perhaps he is part of an Ubuntu reverse psychology astroturfing plan.
I dislike MS as much as the next guy, but if you think there's nothing that Windows does that's better than Linux than you're in denial. And most users could care less if they can look at the code, and wouldn't understand it or have the foggiest idea what to do with it if they did. What specifically does Windows do better than Linux? By which I mean Windows the OS, not Windows the platform.
Unfortunately, everyone I know who has bought one (around five people) has installed XP on it. I'd guess lots of others are doing the same. So what do they use them for that they couldn't have done with the Linux install? Genuinely curious.
Those devices may run unix or Linux, but how many people even know that? Wouldn't a typical consumer see that a device does what they want and looks good without regard to the OS? I doubt that many Nokia owners know their tablet runs Linux. Well.. until they go on the net to find stuff to install. If they only use it for the pre installed apps, then they are missing out on a lot of the fun. I'm still a Linux noob, but I'm finding mine very easy to use.
DVD is good enough for me. I've yet to impressed enough with HD to replace my tv or media
Indeed. I was in Curry's yesterday and walked around all their HD TV's, playing HD sources. Talk about unimpressed! What is the point? I have a 22-year-old CRT TV and the picture quality on it is not even apparently lower than most of the LCD/Plasma screens I saw yesterday and those that were better had such a small advantage that I'd have to win one for it to be worth upgrading.
TWW The problem is that you went to Curry's (A countrywide cheap consumer electronics chain). They do not do anybody any favors with the way they display such TV sets. I had a look before I bought mine online, and if my only reference had been the store displays, I wouldn't have bothered either. My Samsung 32inch looked pretty bad in store, but at home with a good source and an upscaling DVD player and TV tuner it looks great. I bought mine early last year and I'm very happy. I did some research first, so I knew more than the spotty little git on the shop floor.
LCD TVs are only good if you have the right inputs, and set them up right. The store sets are taken out of the box, plonked on the display shelf and fed from one RF signal and are uniformly awful. It would be like buying a pair of speakers if all they had to use as a source was a dodgy old walkman and a copy of Queen's greatest hits from 1980.
About the only way you could have made it a worse demonstration is if you squirted shampoo in your eyes before you went in. Find somewhere that can demonstrate a HD set with proper feeds and you have a better chance of seeing the difference.
Sometimes. And all too often it gets personal and/or destructive, typically because of a territorial war, or sometimes because of financial interests. Open source development would progress considerably faster if we learned to make a point of stopping short of the destructive zone. This is just human nature. People get attached to things and take it personally. Look at how excited people get over sports teams and the like. The vast majority don't really have such a blinkered viewpoint and ignore such pointless arguments. As shown elsewhere in this topic, one person's drawback is another's must have feature.
I agree. We should be all happy because we actually have freedom on what distro to choose.
I personally don't like this kind of news fomenting wars between opensource projects. What war? It's just friendly rivalry. If one distro gets a few lines of coverage, no big deal. Next time some other distro will. The only ones who get upset are the rampant fanboys, who kind of embarrass the rest of us anyway.
What a DUMB analogy. If my landlord decided to lock me out by an arbitrary curfew, I would make two calls: One to the police, one to a locksmith. When I rent an apartment I *do* have rights. And how about when you rent... sorry.. License software? To continue with the analogy, what if the government decides to remove your rights as a tenant?
So the landlord can increase your rent. -- Charge more for the next version while phasing out support for the current version.
Do repairs when they feel like it, while forbidding you to do any repairs or decorating. And opting out of any liability when their unqualified cousin rewires your flat and you electrocute yourself. -- Refusing access to the source code, or refusing others access to the source code, denying any responsibility for their badly tested software or patches screwing up your business, but providing an expensive API license if they feel like it.
And have the right of unannounced access at a time to suit them to make sure you are not breaking the rental agreement by subletting or carrying out illegal modifications/repairs. -- Installing spyware to monitor use of their software on your computer, and not doing it as an opt in service.
And all you can do is suck it up and pay, or move out?
The software industry in general has already has done the above, and nobody seems to be complaining except for us crazy open source fanatics. We FOSS supporters may have a leaky roof from time to time, but if we have the skills or someone who is willing to do the job has the skills to repair the roof, it doesn't leak for long. The closed source defenders are turning up in court as character witnesses for abusive landlords. Kinda makes you wonder who is getting the better deal.
Maybe the part about notification when it's ready is important here. Otherwise, everything else has already been done. Would that not be similar to taking a number and waiting for it to appear on a display over the counter. Or waiting in a takeaway after phoning your order until your name is called. " by means of a wireless communication system" is not really enough to differentiate the process. Or should not be.
One thing most slashpeople tend to forget is that Exchange is much more than an e-mail server - its calendar server integration with Outlook is very complete and functional and is a core asset for many companies that rely on it for planning everything from meetings to training sessions to tracking resources such as projectors and flip-charts. Its workflow and forms functionality is less used but, still, companies that went with it now pretty much depend on it and will never migrate from it without a fight. Exchange is a very important tool for Microsoft to keep their vendor lock-in.
And, of course, Microsoft will never even consider making it easy for anyone to migrate away from their tools. And one thing you might be forgetting is that the 80s have been and gone, and mobile phones are no longer the preserve of corporate customers. Make this something that appeals to kids and teenagers, and you have a market that not only buys quite a few phones, but changes their handsets way more often. Exchange compatibility importance=zero. Facebook or whatever the current must have social networking site is compatibility=vital.
And is there any good reason why these phones can't dock with software that translates to exchange compatible formats on a Windows PC? Neatly getting around any GPL3 problems, and offering the customer what they want.
Many countries have implemented national ID card schemes. In the US, where many people don't even have a passport and credentials required to get state drivers licenses (and other forms of state ID) vary widely. What exactly is the problem with having some reliable method of identifying a particular person? Where do you get the word "reliable" from?
Probably going to get modded "-1 Troll" for this, but having seen and used the product, I don't think Vista is all that bad. Granted, I still wouldn't want to try and run it on a system that only meets the "minimum specifications",... but seriously, who's going to recommend such a system anyway? Far more than you think. Look in the advertising for just about any chain store. Plenty of vastly under specified systems.
Somehow the phrase "simple as sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper" doesn't have quite the same ring to it as "simple as pie". It all depends on how many places you calculate it to.
Well said. I use my PC just as a PC (not a media center), to develop games and play games and surf the web, and I love vista in comparison to XP. When XP boots, I have to wait 10 minutes for the GUI to become responsive. Vista is responsive instantly. I have to ask.. What the hell are you loading up on start up that makes XP take 10 minutes?? At a guess, the most I ever had to wait was about 3, and I found that unacceptable, so disabled the apps that were causing it. I use Windows XPSP2 on my PVR at the moment, and that only takes a little over a minute to go from cold start to responsive, and that includes a firewall that has a habit of taking a while to get going. Without that, under a minute. And the hardware isn't exactly top of the range either.
People use MS Office because it is a professional tool, unlike Open Office, which is a joke in comparison. So Microsoft should have no problem supporting ODF then. Its not as if some joke like Open Office could possibly be a danger.
Argh, I tried to install GG on my system at home (athlon 64 x2) and on my Stinkpad T61 (intel core2duo). No go for either. It looked like the problem was that, in both instances, my DVD/CD drives are SATA. I don't know why this would be a problem, but it was. This was with the 32-bit version of GG, btw. OTOH, I installed Solaris 10 Dev Edition fine on both (x64 version). As a side note, while I love zfs, the Solaris directory structure and way of doing things is making me crazy. I'm going back to FreeBSD as soon as there's a RELEASE with stable zfs support. At least I, in my simple-minded state, can understand the way BSD works. Trying to figure out which directory software got installed into makes me want to gouge out my eyes. Why can't it just go into/usr/local? argh! I seem to remember reading somewhere that Ubuntu has been having some problems with SATA drives. I'm a Fedora user, so don't pay that much attention to other distros. Fedora 6 worked fine on my SATA HTPC, so it might be worth trying a different distro. Some will have better support for specific hardware.
Well, right, but i'm speaking more in terms of people (like myself and almost everybody i know) who would want to move over to Linux on our existing PC hardware. I was willing to give Ubuntu a try on the lap-top we'd already bought; i was not willing to go out and buy another one for it. You may not know it, but you actually chose the worst possible option for trying Linux. Laptops are not common hardware. They may be common products, certainly popular products, but that isn't the same thing. They are a collection of custom hardware wrapped up in a box with crappy ventilation and everything is tweaked to use the lowest power possible. Buying a random notebook and expecting it to run Linux is pretty much setting out to fail. Even switching Windows versions can be problematic. Custom drivers only available from the manufacturer, weird setups, unknown hardware etc. Its just not worth the effort for the people who write the Linux drivers to support something that will be in use for about three years, but on sale for about one. Unless you have a very common laptop, forget it.
If you really want to try Linux, find an old desktop somewhere. Your experience will depend on how old it is, so a 486 with 2 meg memory isn't going to run anything with a GUI, but still usable kit will do the job. I learned on a AthlonXP2600 that I had lying around in various parts, but then I've been building my own for years, and usually have enough spares to put something together. Plenty of old parts going for next to nothing on ebay, or freecycle if you have a local group. And on freecycle, you stand a good chance of getting a free PC in full that someone doesn't want. Then when you know what to look for, your next laptop can be a Liunx one.
Linux is getting easier, and the hardware support is improving, but because the Linux community provides Linux drivers for the most part, some things can't be reasonably expected to work. Once the hardware makers get the idea that there is a whole untapped market out there, they will start putting little penguins on their packaging. Some already do.
It's basically the human equivalent of peacock feathers. Look at me, look what I can earn, I'll be a good mate, I can support lots of children etc. It goes back to our chimphood.
To change this behaviour in males, you'll have to change female selection preferences. I don't know... The mother of all marketing campaigns might do it, but I doubt it. Not at all. But I am questioning the over emphasis it has taken over the last generation or two. "I want" has become indistinguishable from "I need" in many people's vocabulary, and as we become more disassociated from the production of what we buy, the concept of finite resources becomes more difficult to comprehend.
Hell, I'm still shocked it hasn't become more main stream. We implemented it in our 911 dispatch years ago (way old slashdot article of Linux 911 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/08/27/1641223&mode=thread&threshold=3 from back in 1999). It saved us money and lives. Its still running great!! The more things change, the more they stay the same. Linux is coming.. one system at a time.
I don't understand the mentality either. Once here on/. I simply stated that it might be a good idea for people to try to behave a bit more sustainably and I get ripped into about moving into a grass hut with a dirt floor. Consumption is a religion for some and it is due to a belief that the economy will collapse if we don't all go out and buy something and just throw it away unopened. Why would people think that? Social conditioning. The entire retail market is designed to make us aspire to the new stuff when the old stuff is perfectly adequate. This applies to consumer electronics, clothing, housing, etc. Its taken a while, but now many people are conditioned to confuse the words want and need.
If you ask why, or even worse, try to reduce your consumption, you are directly challenging the personal validation system of the more conformist consumers. If someone measures their self worth on the amount of money they earn, or the expensive toys they have, then you are questioning their status in the social pecking order.
Slashdot Mirror
Indeed. I was in Curry's yesterday and walked around all their HD TV's, playing HD sources. Talk about unimpressed! What is the point? I have a 22-year-old CRT TV and the picture quality on it is not even apparently lower than most of the LCD/Plasma screens I saw yesterday and those that were better had such a small advantage that I'd have to win one for it to be worth upgrading.
TWW The problem is that you went to Curry's (A countrywide cheap consumer electronics chain). They do not do anybody any favors with the way they display such TV sets. I had a look before I bought mine online, and if my only reference had been the store displays, I wouldn't have bothered either. My Samsung 32inch looked pretty bad in store, but at home with a good source and an upscaling DVD player and TV tuner it looks great. I bought mine early last year and I'm very happy. I did some research first, so I knew more than the spotty little git on the shop floor.
LCD TVs are only good if you have the right inputs, and set them up right. The store sets are taken out of the box, plonked on the display shelf and fed from one RF signal and are uniformly awful. It would be like buying a pair of speakers if all they had to use as a source was a dodgy old walkman and a copy of Queen's greatest hits from 1980.
About the only way you could have made it a worse demonstration is if you squirted shampoo in your eyes before you went in. Find somewhere that can demonstrate a HD set with proper feeds and you have a better chance of seeing the difference.
I personally don't like this kind of news fomenting wars between opensource projects. What war? It's just friendly rivalry. If one distro gets a few lines of coverage, no big deal. Next time some other distro will. The only ones who get upset are the rampant fanboys, who kind of embarrass the rest of us anyway.
So the landlord can increase your rent. -- Charge more for the next version while phasing out support for the current version.
Do repairs when they feel like it, while forbidding you to do any repairs or decorating. And opting out of any liability when their unqualified cousin rewires your flat and you electrocute yourself. -- Refusing access to the source code, or refusing others access to the source code, denying any responsibility for their badly tested software or patches screwing up your business, but providing an expensive API license if they feel like it.
And have the right of unannounced access at a time to suit them to make sure you are not breaking the rental agreement by subletting or carrying out illegal modifications/repairs. -- Installing spyware to monitor use of their software on your computer, and not doing it as an opt in service.
And all you can do is suck it up and pay, or move out?
The software industry in general has already has done the above, and nobody seems to be complaining except for us crazy open source fanatics.
We FOSS supporters may have a leaky roof from time to time, but if we have the skills or someone who is willing to do the job has the skills to repair the roof, it doesn't leak for long. The closed source defenders are turning up in court as character witnesses for abusive landlords. Kinda makes you wonder who is getting the better deal.
And, of course, Microsoft will never even consider making it easy for anyone to migrate away from their tools. And one thing you might be forgetting is that the 80s have been and gone, and mobile phones are no longer the preserve of corporate customers.
Make this something that appeals to kids and teenagers, and you have a market that not only buys quite a few phones, but changes their handsets way more often. Exchange compatibility importance=zero. Facebook or whatever the current must have social networking site is compatibility=vital.
And is there any good reason why these phones can't dock with software that translates to exchange compatible formats on a Windows PC? Neatly getting around any GPL3 problems, and offering the customer what they want.
If you really want to try Linux, find an old desktop somewhere. Your experience will depend on how old it is, so a 486 with 2 meg memory isn't going to run anything with a GUI, but still usable kit will do the job. I learned on a AthlonXP2600 that I had lying around in various parts, but then I've been building my own for years, and usually have enough spares to put something together. Plenty of old parts going for next to nothing on ebay, or freecycle if you have a local group. And on freecycle, you stand a good chance of getting a free PC in full that someone doesn't want. Then when you know what to look for, your next laptop can be a Liunx one.
Linux is getting easier, and the hardware support is improving, but because the Linux community provides Linux drivers for the most part, some things can't be reasonably expected to work. Once the hardware makers get the idea that there is a whole untapped market out there, they will start putting little penguins on their packaging. Some already do.
It's basically the human equivalent of peacock feathers. Look at me, look what I can earn, I'll be a good mate, I can support lots of children etc. It goes back to our chimphood.
To change this behaviour in males, you'll have to change female selection preferences. I don't know... The mother of all marketing campaigns might do it, but I doubt it. Not at all. But I am questioning the over emphasis it has taken over the last generation or two. "I want" has become indistinguishable from "I need" in many people's vocabulary, and as we become more disassociated from the production of what we buy, the concept of finite resources becomes more difficult to comprehend.
If you ask why, or even worse, try to reduce your consumption, you are directly challenging the personal validation system of the more conformist consumers. If someone measures their self worth on the amount of money they earn, or the expensive toys they have, then you are questioning their status in the social pecking order.