I am the Program Director for the CS/IS and MSIS school at my College. Anyone can give out free linux at any time, and if someone wants to come along and do so, they are welcome to contact me. That is insane, and very deeply disturbingly wrong.
I just got done with a major career change from IT and into education. After 20 years of watching IT Security spiral and spin, I bailed, and am now in Eduction and loving every minute of it.
I spend 4 years working to have the creds to move careers, adjunct teaching, getting my doctorate, just to make sure that when the cross over happened, I could end up higher in the food chain to make sure that the change of careers did not result in too big a financial hit.
Hope this one helps
No but it is interesting, I brought it up on a server at http://71.216.0.210:8180/peerwatch/advance.jsp if you want to go take a look, also wrote about it here, http://techwag.com/index.php/2007/11/23/thank-you-mpaa-for-the-university-toolkit/ technically this tool has some really interesting security implications, and privacy implications, but it is a 1 for 1 relationship between the nic and the tool. In other words, I have not figured out yet how to slip the thing into promiscuous mode, so it would have to be on a span port, or on its own port off the firewall with everything being forwarded.
There are some issues with how it works, but there are also some limitations, you are free to check out the install if you want. In all, interesting, but there are some things that need to be worked out first to make this into a prime network monitoring tool.
There is some precident in this if the copyright holder objects - http://www.news.com/2100-1030_3-6145744.html from news.com, plus the issue of deep linking has always been contentious. However, agreed that TV links linked only to media, but they also wrapped the media in their own picture window. rather than taking you to the media directly, they did open it up in a popup window that was affiliated with TV Links. Not saying this is right or wrong, but it opens up the whole embedding of content issue. They really should go after the source, not the linking systems. But then some linking systems might be easier to take down. Another will take its place, that is the humor part of this, the whole hydra issue.
Amazed this ended up on the front page of slashdot, the article has no "facts" there is nothing other than the wink wink nudge nudge believe me bit here. There is nothing in the article to prove the assertion made here. Let alone the whole thing sounds like someone who is having a hard time with gaming the system, and wants to call conspiracy theory.
ping traceroute to demonoid.com and it will respond to pings, if I was to diagnose it today, it looks like it is data layer on up, could be a database connectivity issue, but then we speculate. Which is fun.
last night techwag was reporting the same thing based off the torrent freak article, but a commenter pointed to a discussion out on http://www.thecircuitbox.com/demonoid/ which is basically an IRC chat that refutes the CRIA end of the story. The techwag article is here http://techwag.com/index.php/2007/09/25/bad-day-for-bittorrent-demonoid-shut-down/
Yesterday was basically a bad day for Bittorrent, ISOHunt shut down trackers to american users, and demonoid out of service, for what ever reason, either because they were taken down by the ISP or they are having one of their outages that happens randomly, but every time they go down people think they got shut down because they were shut down almost a year ago by BRIEN.
There really is no way to tell the truth in the story without getting someone from demonoid to talk about it, and so far, people from demonoid have been very hard to reach.
Makes for an interesting story overall though.
Sorry folks, the question I have is did the bloggers know that they would be used in advertising? If not, ok, lesson learned, if yes, then they should have disclosed, just like with pay per post. My 2 Cents
That would be a better way of stating it, lawyers though can be pretty cold, they have to be, and like any other social group, there are some that deal well with people and those that don't. The language in takedown letters is designed to elicit a response, and by nature is going to be harsh because they are in effect saying "you did something wrong now fix it". Its direct and functional, not warm and fuzzy, by nature and nessissity.
That would be the interesting thing to see, personally I think this is a trial balloon, I would lay odds that they are watching the peer networks and bittorrent networks to see how many of the DRM files escape onto the peer networks to build out a better business case for DRM and possibly get new laws. Ok, conspiracy central kind of idea, but it makes sense.
According to http://techwag.com/index.php/2007/04/30/welcome-to -google-hell/ techwag, they were dabbling in black art SEO or Grey hat SEO when they got dumped, and the point on that one is that I agree with you, and black/grey hat anything is going to get you in trouble, and it is great that they are whining now about it, but really they brought it on themselves.
As long as people try to game the system, they have to suffer the consequences of gaming the system. my 2 cents.
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I am the Program Director for the CS/IS and MSIS school at my College. Anyone can give out free linux at any time, and if someone wants to come along and do so, they are welcome to contact me. That is insane, and very deeply disturbingly wrong.
I just got done with a major career change from IT and into education. After 20 years of watching IT Security spiral and spin, I bailed, and am now in Eduction and loving every minute of it. I spend 4 years working to have the creds to move careers, adjunct teaching, getting my doctorate, just to make sure that when the cross over happened, I could end up higher in the food chain to make sure that the change of careers did not result in too big a financial hit. Hope this one helps
Sorry folks, not new news, been discussed at least 14 months ago here. http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/security/dmorrill/archives/google-apps-is-a-risk-management-decision-14666 Anyone else got anything earlier? It would be interesting to track the history of stories like this. At least this is a good refresher on what to think about.
There is some additional information and commentary on Torrent Freak here http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-team-charged-080131/ and on techwag here http://techwag.com/index.php/2008/01/31/the-pirate-bay-finally-finds-out-what-they-are-being-charged-with/ techwag actually broke out the numbers in relationship to number of torrents against the fine against the operators. Interesting additional reading.
No but it is interesting, I brought it up on a server at http://71.216.0.210:8180/peerwatch/advance.jsp if you want to go take a look, also wrote about it here, http://techwag.com/index.php/2007/11/23/thank-you-mpaa-for-the-university-toolkit/ technically this tool has some really interesting security implications, and privacy implications, but it is a 1 for 1 relationship between the nic and the tool. In other words, I have not figured out yet how to slip the thing into promiscuous mode, so it would have to be on a span port, or on its own port off the firewall with everything being forwarded. There are some issues with how it works, but there are also some limitations, you are free to check out the install if you want. In all, interesting, but there are some things that need to be worked out first to make this into a prime network monitoring tool.
There is some precident in this if the copyright holder objects - http://www.news.com/2100-1030_3-6145744.html from news.com, plus the issue of deep linking has always been contentious. However, agreed that TV links linked only to media, but they also wrapped the media in their own picture window. rather than taking you to the media directly, they did open it up in a popup window that was affiliated with TV Links. Not saying this is right or wrong, but it opens up the whole embedding of content issue. They really should go after the source, not the linking systems. But then some linking systems might be easier to take down. Another will take its place, that is the humor part of this, the whole hydra issue.
Amazed this ended up on the front page of slashdot, the article has no "facts" there is nothing other than the wink wink nudge nudge believe me bit here. There is nothing in the article to prove the assertion made here. Let alone the whole thing sounds like someone who is having a hard time with gaming the system, and wants to call conspiracy theory.
ping traceroute to demonoid.com and it will respond to pings, if I was to diagnose it today, it looks like it is data layer on up, could be a database connectivity issue, but then we speculate. Which is fun.
Exactly, thank you for being more succinct than me in your statement, grin.
last night techwag was reporting the same thing based off the torrent freak article, but a commenter pointed to a discussion out on http://www.thecircuitbox.com/demonoid/ which is basically an IRC chat that refutes the CRIA end of the story. The techwag article is here http://techwag.com/index.php/2007/09/25/bad-day-for-bittorrent-demonoid-shut-down/ Yesterday was basically a bad day for Bittorrent, ISOHunt shut down trackers to american users, and demonoid out of service, for what ever reason, either because they were taken down by the ISP or they are having one of their outages that happens randomly, but every time they go down people think they got shut down because they were shut down almost a year ago by BRIEN. There really is no way to tell the truth in the story without getting someone from demonoid to talk about it, and so far, people from demonoid have been very hard to reach. Makes for an interesting story overall though.
Sorry folks, the question I have is did the bloggers know that they would be used in advertising? If not, ok, lesson learned, if yes, then they should have disclosed, just like with pay per post. My 2 Cents
That would be a better way of stating it, lawyers though can be pretty cold, they have to be, and like any other social group, there are some that deal well with people and those that don't. The language in takedown letters is designed to elicit a response, and by nature is going to be harsh because they are in effect saying "you did something wrong now fix it". Its direct and functional, not warm and fuzzy, by nature and nessissity.
but do we care about spam and the economic impacts of black listing spam? Personally I don't.
That would be the interesting thing to see, personally I think this is a trial balloon, I would lay odds that they are watching the peer networks and bittorrent networks to see how many of the DRM files escape onto the peer networks to build out a better business case for DRM and possibly get new laws. Ok, conspiracy central kind of idea, but it makes sense.
According to http://techwag.com/index.php/2007/04/30/welcome-to -google-hell/ techwag, they were dabbling in black art SEO or Grey hat SEO when they got dumped, and the point on that one is that I agree with you, and black/grey hat anything is going to get you in trouble, and it is great that they are whining now about it, but really they brought it on themselves.
As long as people try to game the system, they have to suffer the consequences of gaming the system. my 2 cents.