If you say 'glossy photo paper' on a modern printer, it chucks out more ink to get good depth of colour on the glossy substrate that the paper has. It absolutely saturates normal paper which gets too wet and has ruined prints.
So if the 'green hack' was smart enough to disable itself on a photo print -and we know nothing here, I am only guessing and hoping- then it could not damage green.
Can we test this? well, we can ask to see if anyone has noticed that their photos come out wrong.
Having multiple colours makes things harder for anyone trying to use a printing system where they need to get the many colour right, the prints aligned, etc. etc.
That means it is harder for professional counterfeiters, as well as amateurs.
NB, one change on UK currency in recent years is a copyright notice. That stops people claiming "I didnt know" when they get prosecuted.
I am going to defend their choice to provide different drivers for different platforms. If you've ever written code to support different versions of windows, you'd understand why.
1. There is GDI itself, and the printer bridge to it, and the networking APIs. These really do change between versions more than you'd think.
2. There is the rest of the OS for all those little taskbar things, IE versions, and stuff that makes x-platform apps hard.
4. The drivers ship for all the languages windows supports. Which is more than MS do for.NET.
3. There is the problem that if you make a change to the code to get something working on say WinME, or WinXP SP2, you cannot affort to rebuild and retest every downlevel version.
The only way to do things differently would be to rethink printing: to have all the printers handle postscript, to have a standard job description language for job submission, a standard protocol (Corba, DCOM, SOAP (0.9? 1.2?)) and have apps or the OS just generate a doc and submit it. Universal Plug and Play effectively does that with XHTML, but not PDF.
I think the German Govt and others may be sources of the pressure, rather than just the US.
The silly thing is, the fundamental flaw is that the US notes are so easy to copy. Modern EU ones have big reflective bits that cannot be printed properly at all; they come out grey not bright silver. Yet I am sure the governments blame the messengers (adobe, HP) not the message, when the message is 'our tools are so good at near-perfectly duplicating your current notes, because your notes are so good'.
Now, to change topics slightly, the current Western Governments, EU and US both, view cash transactions as suspicious. Really. You try living cash-only these days -even stay in motels- and people view you as a drug dealer or a terrorist.
If you want to worry about what the governments are up to with cash, cracking down on copying is nothing. Its abolishing it in large denominations; its adding RFIDs and other tracking mechanisms. If they could generate a paper trail from every transaction, they'd do it. Compared to that, what a few printer and software vendors do is noise.
It is worth noting that you cannot blame the Aussies for the law, it is something they took from the UK and have retained, though both countries could drop it.
It is very, very rare -its a kind of pre-emptive seizure which can only be justified by the 'recipients will destroy the evidence' claim.
Note also that in the UK there are essentially no limits on what the state security organisations can do in the country. Unlike the US, where the CIA and NSA are allowed to break US and local laws abroad. I guess only the FBI can break laws on the US mainland?
Whatever, the key point is that one democratic countries legal system cannot and should not act as a replica for another. Britain has silly laws (anton pillar, Prevention of Terrorism (emergency powers) act 1974 + successors, RIP (the encryption one), and politicians (esp that david blunkett) are always trying to copy the worst bits of other countries. And that is where we all need to keep an eye on all 'harmonisation' programs, be they copyright, privacy, terrorism: they always go to the most repressive, not the least.
C# language? Maybe. But.NET framework? I dont think so, though in places one is ahead of the other. And Java has some things (EJB) that it is not clear the other needs or wants.
The thing about.NET is that it adds many features by binding straight to the windows implementation. The file model? WinNT. The data access model? Sql Server. The UI model? Windows.
Where.NET gets interesting is in Longhorn, though it will be some time before that moves from being a VMWare image on my box, to being the base OS.
Maybe we need to tune the Mozilla active X control ( a spare time project by somebody) so that it can be embedded inside IE. Then your browser looks like IE, but its really mozilla.
No, that would just give us the defects of both. Better to have an IE skin for mozilla firebird...
Even the Java projects I work on at apache are scared of debian unstable.
The last recent one -java code (in Ant) that was doing a touch wasnt working. The cause? the c library code to set the filetime was broken. Fundamental things like that going wrong worry me.
Still, it is easier to replicate a debian-unstable build than a redhat enterprise system -if someone files a bugrep on the latter, I cannot just bring it up in a VMware window for a closer look.
WLANs seem inconsistent trouble all round. To get RH9.0 working with the built in WLAN card, I had to take it to JJ Tourhille (he of the wireless kernel patches) and get him to set it up -and even then it locks up every half hour. Whereas the wireless PC card just plug and plays, with auto find-and-bind to hotspots.
I guess some of this is driver related, but things like that make a big difference. Your point about newbie-ness still holds though; I felt the installer was overhard and took me four reinstalls before everything went smoothly.
That's the Fedora Core-1 that doesn't bring up networking on a laptop with the net adapter on a PC card? I had to track down that problem on the redhat mail list archive -it turns out that its related to the fancy new boot time GUI? After that experience I concluded that broad QA is something lacking in the core-1 program.
I don't know if mandrakes' is any better, and I don't know if their business model is going to prove any better in the long term either. But I can say I do not like Core-1 and can not afford to move to the $300/box/year fee for a commercial release. At least mandrake's production systems are priced sensibly for end users.
Red Hat has to make Fedora viable, as otherwise the people who used RedHat without paying for it (most of us:) will migrate to other things. Its what I'm doing, and as mandrake 9.2 works with VMware, it is what I am rolling out across the board.
As an aside, I think both distributors have a challenge surviving. RedHat's new policy 'compete with Windows by charging more' doesn't seem any more viable than 'give it away'. Both vendor's community projects are clearly attempts to get the debian advantage -community involvement- while still being able to charge for the release versions. Too bad debian got there first.
Yes, it really depends on the app. The choice of oracle and weblogic biases the whole thing to towards MS, to the point that it should be a 'IIS cheaper than WebLogic and SQL server cheaper than Oracle' survey, not a Windows cheaper than Linux.
Still, I bet Oracle+Weblogic on commodity x86 costs less than the same software on solaris:)
Though of course, because both of these have per-cpu licenses, they are expensive when you go for many mid-range CPUs rather than one or two of Intel's top of the line Xeon parts.
Yes jboss is weak in docs, at least in free docs. I bet most of the companies revenue comes from docs.
The other oddity is business model -I know more ex-jboss developers than current ones, and the whole Apache Geronimo thing really puts a question mark round their product. Apache will be able to get access to the J2EE tests for free, so will be able to sort-of-certify their product.
I do not disagree with you on the basis that Oracle is very much better than mysql. But I think that far too many apps are written where people assume they need oracle, weblogic and the hardware to go with, and the full time oracle-database-tuner that accompanies the lot, when simpler is better. MySQL to java works well (Better than the SQL server drivers), and gets the job done.
Access doesnt cut it BTW, cos access doesnt have the concurrency to be the back end for anything.
The reviewer compares the cost of WebLogic+Oracle versus Windows Server+ SQL server. While the OS is much cheaper (and they omit costs of securing the platform against repeated worms), it is the cost of the proprietary software that gives MS its 25% cost saving.
The thing is, the cost of the app server and database are huge; they dwarf everything. So a large size company would only pay $5K for Redhat versus $40K for windows, but then pay $160K for WebLogic and $40K for oracle (versus $0 and $20K for the MS solution). And of course the annual maintenance fees are simply a fraction of the software costs, so they are more on the j2ee system.
Really the survey says 'J2EE using Oracle and WebLogic is more expensive than.NET and SQL server'. And it probably is true. But that is what comes of not embracing open source more fully. Adopt JBoss instead of WebLogic, save nearly $160K. Adopt Postgres or MySQL instead of Oracle, save $40K. end result: open source wins hands down, provided development costs are roughly comparable.
So yes, the study was utterly rigged. It makes a valid critique of using WebLogic and Oracle, but says nothing about Linux/JBoss/mysql.
Cant you get the GTK installed on your university computers and use spare cycles that way? Saves waiting for OS changes, though you do need Grid-enabled applications.
As other people say, the windows DDK is on MDSN (it used to be a free download, but then they added the C++ compiler so had to start charging), and there are standards for USB & firewire drivers (WDM= Windows Driver Model) that allow the same drivers to run on Win9x and NT, so one more OS cant be that hard:) Network drivers have their own driver model that fits in with the networking stack -and can be hosted under Windows already.
I'd steer clear of display drivers -its hard to emulate when they are talking to bare metal so much and being time critical. Print drivers can be a bit close to display drivers (in NT4 they ran kernel-side, the fools), though I havent looked there for a while.
NB, what is a pay-to-see secret is the file system API for windows, which could be why there are so few interesting file systems in that OS.
So: USB, Firewire and Network drivers for windows could be supported on Linux if everyone puts in enough effort. That would be cool, at least for x86 linux.
Regarding announcement, well, there has been a mail list on apache.org. Even so, I was suprised to see it live, because I thought it didnt go to a vote in the members meeting at apache con. Certainly debian and others were providing detailed feedback before the conference.
I think it is GPL compatible -Roy Fielding of Apache says that Eblen Moglen of FSF has looked at it and is happy.
yes, having the DAC on the same mainboard as the rest of the system, inside a case with a 3+GHz CPU is doomed to create noise.
What I'd like is a pair of wireless headphones that use bluetooth, so my laptop or pc would just stream the digital data out to the BT port; the headphones would pick it up and convert it there and then. That'd be great at work, and great travelling (esp if they were noise cancelling 'phones).
One thing you can do is be much more flexible about your resources. Instead of every server in your back office being configured for one app, if you run a baseOS (i.e. linux) you can run VMware on each and allocate resources to whichever apps need it the most; even if the apps are things like MS exchange that think they have a dedicated NT box.
Or say you have a system that is intermittently used. Instead of allocating real resources to it, you save a vmware image and bring it up only when needed.
The IO is still close, you just make more efficient use of what you have, and still get excellent fault tolerance (cos you can bring up new systems so fast).
Given how often.com/web service programs die because their hardware costs dont match revenue, utility computing with virtual systems lets you only pay for the CPU & HDD you use, not the stuff you think you will need if you magically take off/get./ed.
I just think we are some way from having all this stuff usable -meaning it is easy to admin all these virtual boxes.
Yes, everyone wants to commoditise their opponents -its why Intel support Linux, MS back AMD, oracle back linux, etc etc.
But overall -if you save money, isnt that the main thing?
Of course, oracle try very hard not to be commoditised themselves, and the less the hardware and OS cost, the more the oracle tax stands out. I guess their grid thing is to move beyond databases, as frankly, while a few apps really need oracle and the fulltime admins, most can get by with mysql or postgres.
Its not as good as you think. For example, all java apps are mapped to javax.exe and java.exe; no control of the app within. Similarly, the technique of codeinjection exists to run your malicious code in the process space of IE, just to bypass those firewalls.
But I suppose the combination of real OS and per-app firewalls could make sense...
I dont know what the percentages are, but I recall that rock climbers and people who work on building sites are very hard to fingerprint because they are always rubbing down their prints. So spend every flight sanding your hands down and explain it away as 'I climb on gritstone';
If the goal is matching fingerprints to terrorists, the probability of matching will be low, as their database will be horribly incomplete. all they can realistically do with biometrics is (a) verify that the person in front of you matches the person who was granted the document (not that their identity is actually valid), and maybe (b) when registering docs, pick up on duplicate identities through duplicate fingerprints.
yes, but both groups could have mentioned a bit about broad test coverage & QA...I have found fedora to be a bit lacking there.
Specifically, If FC1 boots in graphical mode on a laptop with the lan on the PC card, the network doesnt work. You need to revert to a console mode boot for it to work. I found that by grunging through the mail lists, but would have been happier if there was a broader test base prior to shipment. Well, in the OSS world that is what I'm for, I guess.
A more serious issue for me is that things like VMWare arent yet on FC1, and I dont know if they ever will officially be officially, and worry also about Java support. IBM's Java runtime has problems with the improved threading, and I think you need a recent runtime from Sun to be sure things work. So FC1 may not be a good runtime to even run 'platform agnostic' java code.
This is why after an experiment with FC1, I am going to give mandrake a try. I could buy a subscription to RH enterprise for my office workstation, but cannot justify the copies for my dual boot laptop or two home systems -I'd be better off spending the cash for a mandrake club membership.
They just destroyed my email address, for a start.
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Two weeks ago someone started spamming taiwan using my email address as the spoofed source. Now they are branching out to yahoo.com
I know this as I get all the bounce mail. Spammers get a lot of bounce mail, and 300+ mails an hour is enough to kill the inbox. Then there is all the 'stop spamming me' responses, or the 'j.user is out the office messages' -this is brutally hard to filter without destroying all useful content (like my own bounce mail)
So I have just been evicted from an email address (on my own domain) that I have had for five years, having to notify friends that is has moved, and generally suffer from trying to clean up the damage.
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If you say 'glossy photo paper' on a modern printer, it chucks out more ink to get good depth of colour on the glossy substrate that the paper has. It absolutely saturates normal paper which gets too wet and has ruined prints.
So if the 'green hack' was smart enough to disable itself on a photo print -and we know nothing here, I am only guessing and hoping- then it could not damage green.
Can we test this? well, we can ask to see if anyone has noticed that their photos come out wrong.
Having multiple colours makes things harder for anyone trying to use a printing system where they need to get the many colour right, the prints aligned, etc. etc.
That means it is harder for professional counterfeiters, as well as amateurs.
NB, one change on UK currency in recent years is a copyright notice. That stops people claiming "I didnt know" when they get prosecuted.
I am going to defend their choice to provide different drivers for different platforms. If you've ever written code to support different versions of windows, you'd understand why.
.NET.
1. There is GDI itself, and the printer bridge to it, and the networking APIs. These really do change between versions more than you'd think.
2. There is the rest of the OS for all those little taskbar things, IE versions, and stuff that makes x-platform apps hard.
4. The drivers ship for all the languages windows supports. Which is more than MS do for
3. There is the problem that if you make a change to the code to get something working on say WinME, or WinXP SP2, you cannot affort to rebuild and retest every downlevel version.
The only way to do things differently would be to rethink printing: to have all the printers handle postscript, to have a standard job description language for job submission, a standard protocol (Corba, DCOM, SOAP (0.9? 1.2?)) and have apps or the OS just generate a doc and submit it. Universal Plug and Play effectively does that with XHTML, but not PDF.
I think the German Govt and others may be sources of the pressure, rather than just the US.
The silly thing is, the fundamental flaw is that the US notes are so easy to copy. Modern EU ones have big reflective bits that cannot be printed properly at all; they come out grey not bright silver. Yet I am sure the governments blame the messengers (adobe, HP) not the message, when the message is 'our tools are so good at near-perfectly duplicating your current notes, because your notes are so good'.
Now, to change topics slightly, the current Western Governments, EU and US both, view cash transactions as suspicious. Really. You try living cash-only these days -even stay in motels- and people view you as a drug dealer or a terrorist.
If you want to worry about what the governments are up to with cash, cracking down on copying is nothing. Its abolishing it in large denominations; its adding RFIDs and other tracking mechanisms. If they could generate a paper trail from every transaction, they'd do it. Compared to that, what a few printer and software vendors do is noise.
It is worth noting that you cannot blame the Aussies for the law, it is something they took from the UK and have retained, though both countries could drop it.
It is very, very rare -its a kind of pre-emptive seizure which can only be justified by the 'recipients will destroy the evidence' claim.
Note also that in the UK there are essentially no limits on what the state security organisations can do in the country. Unlike the US, where the CIA and NSA are allowed to break US and local laws abroad. I guess only the FBI can break laws on the US mainland?
Whatever, the key point is that one democratic countries legal system cannot and should not act as a replica for another. Britain has silly laws (anton pillar, Prevention of Terrorism (emergency powers) act 1974 + successors, RIP (the encryption one), and politicians (esp that david blunkett) are always trying to copy the worst bits of other countries. And that is where we all need to keep an eye on all 'harmonisation' programs, be they copyright, privacy, terrorism: they always go to the most repressive, not the least.
C# language? Maybe. But .NET framework? I dont think so, though in places one is ahead of the other. And Java has some things (EJB) that it is not clear the other needs or wants.
.NET is that it adds many features by binding straight to the windows implementation. The file model? WinNT. The data access model? Sql Server. The UI model? Windows.
.NET gets interesting is in Longhorn, though it will be some time before that moves from being a VMWare image on my box, to being the base OS.
The thing about
Where
And a ping! They gave us ping!
Maybe we need to tune the Mozilla active X control ( a spare time project by somebody) so that it can be embedded inside IE. Then your browser looks like IE, but its really mozilla.
No, that would just give us the defects of both. Better to have an IE skin for mozilla firebird...
Even the Java projects I work on at apache are scared of debian unstable.
The last recent one -java code (in Ant) that was doing a touch wasnt working. The cause? the c library code to set the filetime was broken. Fundamental things like that going wrong worry me.
Still, it is easier to replicate a debian-unstable build than a redhat enterprise system -if someone files a bugrep on the latter, I cannot just bring it up in a VMware window for a closer look.
WLANs seem inconsistent trouble all round. To get RH9.0 working with the built in WLAN card, I had to take it to JJ Tourhille (he of the wireless kernel patches) and get him to set it up -and even then it locks up every half hour. Whereas the wireless PC card just plug and plays, with auto find-and-bind to hotspots.
I guess some of this is driver related, but things like that make a big difference. Your point about newbie-ness still holds though; I felt the installer was overhard and took me four reinstalls before everything went smoothly.
That's the Fedora Core-1 that doesn't bring up networking on a laptop with the net adapter on a PC card? I had to track down that problem on the redhat mail list archive -it turns out that its related to the fancy new boot time GUI? After that experience I concluded that broad QA is something lacking in the core-1 program.
:) will migrate to other things. Its what I'm doing, and as mandrake 9.2 works with VMware, it is what I am rolling out across the board.
I don't know if mandrakes' is any better, and I don't know if their business model is going to prove any better in the long term either. But I can say I do not like Core-1 and can not afford to move to the $300/box/year fee for a commercial release. At least mandrake's production systems are priced sensibly for end users.
Red Hat has to make Fedora viable, as otherwise the people who used RedHat without paying for it (most of us
As an aside, I think both distributors have a challenge surviving. RedHat's new policy 'compete with Windows by charging more' doesn't seem any more viable than 'give it away'. Both vendor's community projects are clearly attempts to get the debian advantage -community involvement- while still being able to charge for the release versions. Too bad debian got there first.
Yes, it really depends on the app. The choice of oracle and weblogic biases the whole thing to towards MS, to the point that it should be a 'IIS cheaper than WebLogic and SQL server cheaper than Oracle' survey, not a Windows cheaper than Linux.
:)
Still, I bet Oracle+Weblogic on commodity x86 costs less than the same software on solaris
Though of course, because both of these have per-cpu licenses, they are expensive when you go for many mid-range CPUs rather than one or two of Intel's top of the line Xeon parts.
Yes jboss is weak in docs, at least in free docs. I bet most of the companies revenue comes from docs.
The other oddity is business model -I know more ex-jboss developers than current ones, and the whole Apache Geronimo thing really puts a question mark round their product. Apache will be able to get access to the J2EE tests for free, so will be able to sort-of-certify their product.
I do not disagree with you on the basis that Oracle is very much better than mysql. But I think that far too many apps are written where people assume they need oracle, weblogic and the hardware to go with, and the full time oracle-database-tuner that accompanies the lot, when simpler is better. MySQL to java works well (Better than the SQL server drivers), and gets the job done.
Access doesnt cut it BTW, cos access doesnt have the concurrency to be the back end for anything.
Looking at the
.NET vs J2EE/Linux study
.NET and SQL server'. And it probably is true. But that is what comes of not embracing open source more fully. Adopt JBoss instead of WebLogic, save nearly $160K. Adopt Postgres or MySQL instead of Oracle, save $40K. end result: open source wins hands down, provided development costs are roughly comparable.
The reviewer compares the cost of WebLogic+Oracle versus Windows Server+ SQL server. While the OS is much cheaper (and they omit costs of securing the platform against repeated worms), it is the cost of the proprietary software that gives MS its 25% cost saving.
The thing is, the cost of the app server and database are huge; they dwarf everything. So a large size company would only pay $5K for Redhat versus $40K for windows, but then pay $160K for WebLogic and $40K for oracle (versus $0 and $20K for the MS solution). And of course the annual maintenance fees are simply a fraction of the software costs, so they are more on the j2ee system.
Really the survey says 'J2EE using Oracle and WebLogic is more expensive than
So yes, the study was utterly rigged. It makes a valid critique of using WebLogic and Oracle, but says nothing about Linux/JBoss/mysql.
Cant you get the GTK installed on your university computers and use spare cycles that way? Saves waiting for OS changes, though you do need Grid-enabled applications.
As other people say, the windows DDK is on MDSN (it used to be a free download, but then they added the C++ compiler so had to start charging), and there are standards for USB & firewire drivers (WDM= Windows Driver Model) that allow the same drivers to run on Win9x and NT, so one more OS cant be that hard :) Network drivers have their own driver model that fits in with the networking stack -and can be hosted under Windows already.
I'd steer clear of display drivers -its hard to emulate when they are talking to bare metal so much and being time critical. Print drivers can be a bit close to display drivers (in NT4 they ran kernel-side, the fools), though I havent looked there for a while.
NB, what is a pay-to-see secret is the file system API for windows, which could be why there are so few interesting file systems in that OS.
So: USB, Firewire and Network drivers for windows could be supported on Linux if everyone puts in enough effort. That would be cool, at least for x86 linux.
Regarding announcement, well, there has been a mail list on apache.org. Even so, I was suprised to see it live, because I thought it didnt go to a vote in the members meeting at apache con. Certainly debian and others were providing detailed feedback before the conference.
I think it is GPL compatible -Roy Fielding of Apache
says that Eblen Moglen of FSF has looked at it and is happy.
yes, having the DAC on the same mainboard as the rest of the system, inside a case with a 3+GHz CPU is doomed to create noise.
What I'd like is a pair of wireless headphones that use bluetooth, so my laptop or pc would just stream the digital data out to the BT port; the headphones would pick it up and convert it there and then. That'd be great at work, and great travelling (esp if they were noise cancelling 'phones).
One thing you can do is be much more flexible about your resources. Instead of every server in your back office being configured for one app, if you run a baseOS (i.e. linux) you can run VMware on each and allocate resources to whichever apps need it the most; even if the apps are things like MS exchange that think they have a dedicated NT box.
.com /web service programs die because their hardware costs dont match revenue, utility computing with virtual systems lets you only pay for the CPU & HDD you use, not the stuff you think you will need if you magically take off/get ./ed.
Or say you have a system that is intermittently used. Instead of allocating real resources to it, you save a vmware image and bring it up only when needed.
The IO is still close, you just make more efficient use of what you have, and still get excellent fault tolerance (cos you can bring up new systems so fast).
Given how often
I just think we are some way from having all this stuff usable -meaning it is easy to admin all these virtual boxes.
Yes, everyone wants to commoditise their opponents -its why Intel support Linux, MS back AMD, oracle back linux, etc etc.
But overall -if you save money, isnt that the main thing?
Of course, oracle try very hard not to be commoditised themselves, and the less the hardware and OS cost, the more the oracle tax stands out. I guess their grid thing is to move beyond databases, as frankly, while a few apps really need oracle and the fulltime admins, most can get by with mysql or postgres.
Its not as good as you think. For example, all java apps are mapped to javax.exe and java.exe; no control of the app within. Similarly, the technique of codeinjection exists to run your malicious code in the process space of IE, just to bypass those firewalls.
But I suppose the combination of real OS and per-app firewalls could make sense...
I dont know what the percentages are, but I recall that rock climbers and people who work on building sites are very hard to fingerprint because they are always rubbing down their prints. So spend every flight sanding your hands down and explain it away as 'I climb on gritstone';
If the goal is matching fingerprints to terrorists, the probability of matching will be low, as their database will be horribly incomplete. all they can realistically do with biometrics is (a) verify that the person in front of you matches the person who was granted the document (not that their identity is actually valid), and maybe (b) when registering docs, pick up on duplicate identities through duplicate fingerprints.
yes, but both groups could have mentioned a bit about broad test coverage & QA...I have found fedora to be a bit lacking there.
Specifically, If FC1 boots in graphical mode on a laptop with the lan on the PC card, the network doesnt work. You need to revert to a console mode boot for it to work. I found that by grunging through the mail lists, but would have been happier if there was a broader test base prior to shipment. Well, in the OSS world that is what I'm for, I guess.
A more serious issue for me is that things like VMWare arent yet on FC1, and I dont know if they ever will officially be officially, and worry also about Java support. IBM's Java runtime has problems with the improved threading, and I think you need a recent runtime from Sun to be sure things work. So FC1 may not be a good runtime to even run 'platform agnostic' java code.
This is why after an experiment with FC1, I am going to give mandrake a try. I could buy a subscription to RH enterprise for my office workstation, but cannot justify the copies for my dual boot laptop or two home systems -I'd be better off spending the cash for a mandrake club membership.
Two weeks ago someone started spamming taiwan using my email address as the spoofed source. Now they are branching out to yahoo.com
I know this as I get all the bounce mail. Spammers get a lot of bounce mail, and 300+ mails an hour is enough to kill the inbox. Then there is all the 'stop spamming me' responses, or the 'j.user is out the office messages' -this is brutally hard to filter without destroying all useful content (like my own bounce mail)
So I have just been evicted from an email address (on my own domain) that I have had for five years, having to notify friends that is has moved, and generally suffer from trying to clean up the damage.
That is what spam does.