I wasn't thinking just about customers, for one, it's very likely that much of their workforce would be dissatisfied, and possibly leave considering Szulik has assured us many times that there will be no deal. For two, you think Microsoft would just do some kind of straight-ahead deal without any shady business? No, they would use their alliance to undermine Red Hat and get a bigger piece of the pie. There is absolutely no gain for Red Hat to make a deal with MS. If you sell your soul to the devil he eventually comes to collect...
Thank You Frosty Piss aka Cptn. Obvious, but IDK how you come to the conclusion that it would be in Red Hat's best interests to align with Macroshaft, simply because their strategy is to sell to the enterprise. They have a lot more to lose by making such a deal than what they would gain.
Guys Szulik basically gave no comment which has been interpreted as an affirmation. If he did 'talk' patents, he probably talked about how Microsoft's vaporpatents don't scare him. RH isn't going to make a deal like Novell did, period. You're way overreacting.
ROFL and I bet you've got lots of enterprise networking experienced. Outlined earlier in this thread, use a WEP or not, you treat the access point as if it's some schmuck connecting from "Kalamazoo" and FORCE your users to VPN in.
LOL use dialup, you're a clown. You probably think it's safer to say your credit card number over a POTS line than it is to enter in an SSL session.
Some would argue that their drugs do have legitimate uses, like curing headaches, or relieving pressure in the eye, etc. I think getting ripped though, is as legitimate as it gets.
People are making a business out of all sorts of 'corrupt' shit in the USA. Face it, this guy was pursuing the American dream just like everyone else here. Stop bitching that he was making a living off of it.
Sort of new, two people on this thread have said it. Maybe it's one of those inside slashdot jokes I don't get yet. If it is, feel free to mod me down for asshattery.
What do you mean? A beowulf cluster is commodity hardware running free software like Linux as OS and Open MPI or whatever the free message passing interface is (/me forgets). This isn't commodity hardware, and it's already a cluster. -1 for durrr factor.
Yea, one of those 75 foot off the shelf antennas. I am also wondering, what kind of impact does outputting a signal that strong have on living things? I don't know much about that sort of thing.
Hi Mr. Advanced Computer User! Did you know that TFA is about servers, not desktops? Don't call yourself advanced if you're afraid of bash. You're either flamebaiting or extremely out of touch with the purpose of Linux.
heh funny you guys say this because I actually first programmed in a fake microprocessor's assembler, designed by my electronics instructor. But I was no kid, I was in high school so I had to be like 14 or so. Logo on the other hand I understand in like second grade or something.
Yea the game had some weird humor to it that I loved. We had a pirated version so when you had to start flying places and needed to refer to the manual for some ATM code or whatever we were screwed. Shortly after though we got an Amiga, which had a cracked version where you could enter any code and it would work. And then I advanced to like the amazon and mars and other things, tough to remember. I think everybody needs to try Zak McKracken.
After 3 years in support for a fax solutions provider, I encountered what I would estimate to be a 5% level of competence. Meaning 95% of SA's I talked to don't know their ass from their elbow. I talked to this one admin of a windows network that didn't know what Active Directory is. Let me tell some more anecdotes.
Now, you might say that they're probably underpaid and overtasked... the underpaid and overtasked guys were actually usually the competent ones. I've had Windows admins call me, support for their FAX solution, for EXCHANGE support. Now I mostly handled Linux calls, My MSEXCH knowledge is very cursory... this guy got pissed and I basically referred him to a MS KB article on what he needed to do. Incompetence is so prevalent in the SA job role it's really just insane. It's gotta start somewhere above them though, cause management made the incompetent decision to hire this incompetent admin. So it's sort of a chicken/egg.
I also loved the admins who were all like "we HAVE to get a linux solution! linux is so rock solid! I don't really know how to use it or even log in to it, but it'll be the proverbial rock in the data center!" Then when it breaks here I am phonetically spelling out commands like cd and ls, while they enter the wrong kind of slashes (if they figure out how to log in first). Then when they enter the proper command finally they're like "I don't think it worked, nothing happened."
Another herd of sa's that were awesome were the ones who either had a language barrier or thought it might be impolite to say "no" when you ask "Is the XXX service running?" It makes for a really fun game where you just have to guess whether they really mean yes or no.
Well I won't keep boring you with my mundane tales of the greatest SA's of all time cause I think you get the picture.
Right? Where is the sultans of swing, one of the greatest guitar solos ever. And one of the only 80s hits that comes to mind that didn't suck shit through a straw.
But how is ubuntu support going to generate any substantial revenue if their product isn't marketable to big-time corporations for big-time contracts? The website claims 'government agencies' are using it, I'd like to know which ones, and in what role(s) specifically. I just don't see Ubuntu being picked up by anyone that 'matters.' Maybe I am being too skeptical of the 'somewhat new' kid on the block. Time will tell.
On my Sun Blade 2000, Debian wasn't up to a version that had a compatible SILO apparently. Gentoo was the only one that worked. Haven't tried Debian 4 yet, which I presume works with a newer version of SILO now.
Another issue was Flash. I wasn't aware of anything I could do about that. I was aware of an implementation like you had described, but was told it didn't really 'work.' Ah well I've decided to sell off my Sun Blade 2000, put it on craigslist. Too many bills and I need a good intel machine for play and work.
Not to get off topic or anything here, but remind me again, what is Ubuntu's business model exactly? Not only is their business model non-existant or very poor (please correct me if I am missing something here), but IMO their product isn't all that great. Ubuntu hasn't even started climbing the hill AFAIC. Once there are big corporations running Ubuntu in the datacenter and on the workstations, maybe then Ubuntu will be the leader. I just don't see that happening though.
Dealing with support does suck, can't argue against that, but...
Are you incinuating that your failure to pass RHCE deems the certification a 'scam?' I've only taken RHCT to get a feel for their testing, but after putting that on my resume my phone was blowing up. I got a 12 thousand dollar a year base salary raise from a 350 dollar investment. I can only dream of what that raise would have been had I went for the RHCE.
You may think that 'little guys' got RedHat where they are, but the little guys aren't the ones buying all the 'advanced' platform clustering or satt server etc. IMO CentOS and Fedora are for the little guys.
On the topic of Desktops, I think Looking Glass is the best 'fresh' idea out there ATM, but doesn't really offer anything for the corporate side of things. Like has been said here the online desktop thing is a poor gimmick that is pretty much bound to fail.
What about the poor folk like me running Linux on Sparc who can't use anything Java? Or some other architecture? Once this is complete it's going to be good for the non x86 Linux community.
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I wasn't thinking just about customers, for one, it's very likely that much of their workforce would be dissatisfied, and possibly leave considering Szulik has assured us many times that there will be no deal. For two, you think Microsoft would just do some kind of straight-ahead deal without any shady business? No, they would use their alliance to undermine Red Hat and get a bigger piece of the pie. There is absolutely no gain for Red Hat to make a deal with MS. If you sell your soul to the devil he eventually comes to collect...
Thank You Frosty Piss aka Cptn. Obvious, but IDK how you come to the conclusion that it would be in Red Hat's best interests to align with Macroshaft, simply because their strategy is to sell to the enterprise. They have a lot more to lose by making such a deal than what they would gain.
Guys Szulik basically gave no comment which has been interpreted as an affirmation. If he did 'talk' patents, he probably talked about how Microsoft's vaporpatents don't scare him. RH isn't going to make a deal like Novell did, period. You're way overreacting.
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ROFL and I bet you've got lots of enterprise networking experienced. Outlined earlier in this thread, use a WEP or not, you treat the access point as if it's some schmuck connecting from "Kalamazoo" and FORCE your users to VPN in. LOL use dialup, you're a clown. You probably think it's safer to say your credit card number over a POTS line than it is to enter in an SSL session.
Some would argue that their drugs do have legitimate uses, like curing headaches, or relieving pressure in the eye, etc. I think getting ripped though, is as legitimate as it gets.
People are making a business out of all sorts of 'corrupt' shit in the USA. Face it, this guy was pursuing the American dream just like everyone else here. Stop bitching that he was making a living off of it.
Sort of new, two people on this thread have said it. Maybe it's one of those inside slashdot jokes I don't get yet. If it is, feel free to mod me down for asshattery.
Imagine knowing what a Beowulf cluster actually is! sigh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_(computing)
What do you mean? A beowulf cluster is commodity hardware running free software like Linux as OS and Open MPI or whatever the free message passing interface is (/me forgets). This isn't commodity hardware, and it's already a cluster. -1 for durrr factor.
Yea, one of those 75 foot off the shelf antennas. I am also wondering, what kind of impact does outputting a signal that strong have on living things? I don't know much about that sort of thing.
Hi Mr. Advanced Computer User! Did you know that TFA is about servers, not desktops? Don't call yourself advanced if you're afraid of bash. You're either flamebaiting or extremely out of touch with the purpose of Linux.
heh funny you guys say this because I actually first programmed in a fake microprocessor's assembler, designed by my electronics instructor. But I was no kid, I was in high school so I had to be like 14 or so. Logo on the other hand I understand in like second grade or something.
Logo and scratch aren't really relevant for kids to learn at a young age. This is what C and assembly are for.
Yea the game had some weird humor to it that I loved. We had a pirated version so when you had to start flying places and needed to refer to the manual for some ATM code or whatever we were screwed. Shortly after though we got an Amiga, which had a cracked version where you could enter any code and it would work. And then I advanced to like the amazon and mars and other things, tough to remember. I think everybody needs to try Zak McKracken.
Where's the making of Zak McKracken? Now that was a sick game, possibly the best C64 game I have played. My uncle used to have hundreds.
After 3 years in support for a fax solutions provider, I encountered what I would estimate to be a 5% level of competence. Meaning 95% of SA's I talked to don't know their ass from their elbow. I talked to this one admin of a windows network that didn't know what Active Directory is. Let me tell some more anecdotes.
Now, you might say that they're probably underpaid and overtasked... the underpaid and overtasked guys were actually usually the competent ones. I've had Windows admins call me, support for their FAX solution, for EXCHANGE support. Now I mostly handled Linux calls, My MSEXCH knowledge is very cursory... this guy got pissed and I basically referred him to a MS KB article on what he needed to do. Incompetence is so prevalent in the SA job role it's really just insane. It's gotta start somewhere above them though, cause management made the incompetent decision to hire this incompetent admin. So it's sort of a chicken/egg.
I also loved the admins who were all like "we HAVE to get a linux solution! linux is so rock solid! I don't really know how to use it or even log in to it, but it'll be the proverbial rock in the data center!" Then when it breaks here I am phonetically spelling out commands like cd and ls, while they enter the wrong kind of slashes (if they figure out how to log in first). Then when they enter the proper command finally they're like "I don't think it worked, nothing happened."
Another herd of sa's that were awesome were the ones who either had a language barrier or thought it might be impolite to say "no" when you ask "Is the XXX service running?" It makes for a really fun game where you just have to guess whether they really mean yes or no.
Well I won't keep boring you with my mundane tales of the greatest SA's of all time cause I think you get the picture.
Right? Where is the sultans of swing, one of the greatest guitar solos ever. And one of the only 80s hits that comes to mind that didn't suck shit through a straw.
That's funny because IME Sol 10 on the hardware you're mentioning crawls. I think it's more the JDK that's slow than the OS.
You're not interested in a blade 2000 are ya? lol
But how is ubuntu support going to generate any substantial revenue if their product isn't marketable to big-time corporations for big-time contracts? The website claims 'government agencies' are using it, I'd like to know which ones, and in what role(s) specifically. I just don't see Ubuntu being picked up by anyone that 'matters.' Maybe I am being too skeptical of the 'somewhat new' kid on the block. Time will tell.
On my Sun Blade 2000, Debian wasn't up to a version that had a compatible SILO apparently. Gentoo was the only one that worked. Haven't tried Debian 4 yet, which I presume works with a newer version of SILO now. Another issue was Flash. I wasn't aware of anything I could do about that. I was aware of an implementation like you had described, but was told it didn't really 'work.' Ah well I've decided to sell off my Sun Blade 2000, put it on craigslist. Too many bills and I need a good intel machine for play and work.
Not to get off topic or anything here, but remind me again, what is Ubuntu's business model exactly? Not only is their business model non-existant or very poor (please correct me if I am missing something here), but IMO their product isn't all that great. Ubuntu hasn't even started climbing the hill AFAIC. Once there are big corporations running Ubuntu in the datacenter and on the workstations, maybe then Ubuntu will be the leader. I just don't see that happening though. Dealing with support does suck, can't argue against that, but... Are you incinuating that your failure to pass RHCE deems the certification a 'scam?' I've only taken RHCT to get a feel for their testing, but after putting that on my resume my phone was blowing up. I got a 12 thousand dollar a year base salary raise from a 350 dollar investment. I can only dream of what that raise would have been had I went for the RHCE. You may think that 'little guys' got RedHat where they are, but the little guys aren't the ones buying all the 'advanced' platform clustering or satt server etc. IMO CentOS and Fedora are for the little guys. On the topic of Desktops, I think Looking Glass is the best 'fresh' idea out there ATM, but doesn't really offer anything for the corporate side of things. Like has been said here the online desktop thing is a poor gimmick that is pretty much bound to fail.
"The innocent shall suffer-- big-time"
What about the poor folk like me running Linux on Sparc who can't use anything Java? Or some other architecture? Once this is complete it's going to be good for the non x86 Linux community.