The hippie or whatever that wrote the software in the first place could disown any responsibility and tell you not to use it unless you use it at your own peril.
Some consultant could sell you the very same free software or a fork, and accept liability.
At least that's how this kind of thing should work. It would be silly to hold a person liable who says nobody should use the code and who doesn't get paid.
Wiki sez The middle class is any class of people in the middle of a societal hierarchy. In Weberian socio-economic terms, the middle class is the broad group of people in contemporary society who fall socio-economicaly between the working class and upper class.
Where I'm from, which is Sweden, I'd say middle class is a state of mind. Another fitting word might be "wannabees". There is no working class as such in Sweden. Any working person without addictions can afford a flat screen tv and such. There are the low class people - too sick, stupid or lazy or whatever to get a job (I'm one).
The working class has been moved to China. Nobody thinks in these terms. I don't know who calls the shots, but Marxism doesn't seem to be the tool of analysis du jour.
Neo-liberalism is the lie that has been pulled over your eyes.
Dang. Stupid reality. Maybe stones and bombs could help. Where should we put them?;) Just kidding. I don't wish to stone and/or bomb anybody. We must forgive them, for they don't know what they're doing. Or so I'm told.
I can make an appointment and be seen TODAY. You can't do that in socialized medicine.
We have drop-in on our socialized health center over here where I live in Sweden, so I don't even have to make a call. (nyah! nyah!)
After that there could be a longer wait to see a specialist, than in the US, but you know, people are healthier and it costs less with our system.
Many world-leading specialists are probably from the US. That's good in itself, but compared to health of and cost for everyone... So what? Great that you can provide the best care for the richest people?
For teaching skills, perhaps. But science, on its own, is not really a practical skill for most people (how often do you run an actual experiment?). The benefit and the purpose for teaching science is to teach people to think skeptically and logically, to learn to examine the data.
Some measure of imitation would be useful to have at the core of any kind of schooling. A teacher can set a good example to follow (for example by being enthusiastic about asking "why?" and about searching for answers) or show/get kids in touch with a good role-model, who appears cool/happy/smart/good and who will inspire kids to maybe want to do what they do.
I have no kind of inkling about the first sentence of the previous poster, but the part about 'teaches kids to ask "why?"' I'd like to amend: Hope it teaches them to want to ask "why?".
Rats, I haven't done enough for your cause, but consider this: The enemy of your enemy is your friend. We are also know to splice up cat brains and I haven't done enough for their cause either.
We may end up seeing something similar to what happened with search engines- successive stages of different companies until someone got the product well enough to dominate the market (a long with a healthy dose of early mover effect compared to new rivals).
I'm hoping we'll make some progress. We should get a "social media" that is made by, for and of the people (to borrow from something that may not actually deserve that description). Powered by something like diaspora* and the freedombox.
ps. Check out the new.sig if you have an opinion on women.
Maybe I'm off on a tangent or somewhere completely different alltogether, but...
How about decentralization of planning, too? If everyone that wanted to could be part of decision making. That would probably be the best and most democratic (obviously) way? In this age of the internet, it should not be that hard to implement technically, either.
AFAICS, the only reason not to increase democracy to an extreme is the possibility that democracy really isn't good for people. And even if that were true, it must still be the only right thing to do, IMO.
Copy one thousand blocks of bread to standard output. I think it means feed a thousand people. It should have been written
dd -n 1000 if=/dev/bread
So, googling "feed a thousand people" yields the following quote off Zora Neale Hurston on top:
"If you feed a thousand people you are a nice man with suspicious motives. If you kill a thousand you are a hero. Continue to get them killed by the thousands and you are a great conqueror than which nothing on earth is greater. Oppress them and you are a great ruler. Rob them by law and they are proud and happy if you let them glimpse you occasionally surrounded by the riches that you have trampled out of their hides. You are truly divine if [...]"
>Frankly, if we had any principles, we should abandon linux (the kernel.) That guy is an amoral bastard. I shiver thinking what he could do with political power...
Don't sweat it. We can always fork Linux if we think the leader of the project tries abuse his powers. He has nothing but reputation to leverage. I suspect he's ok, but at th end of the day, it doesn't really matter.
So 5 year olds should have the freedom to wander off and not be tracked? What the hell is wrong with you people?
I think you misunderstand. Obviously, you can not not be a bit of a despot when it comes to caring for children. We must, for example, restrict their freedom to run into the busy street because we know better than them.
I'm saying that I think there is a possibility that having gps clips on kids may be conditioning them to Big Brother earlier in their life than not having gps clips on them.
I haven't thought enough about this to definately make up my mind about if I think the benefits outweigh potential cultural costs (assuming Big Brother is not worthy of our love), but it's a perspective worth considering.
They are based in UK, so they so not retaining logs is illegal. If you want proxy without logs find one based in country without data retention laws. Hint: it is nowhere in EU.
Judicially, no. But, unless I'm mistaken (and don't base hiding of ass on my level of informedness, please), Sweden is for example not abiding by that EU law yet, incurring ever growing fines in the process.
My ISP still claims the logs of who had what IP at what point in time are gone in about a week.
Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore Riding through the land Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore Without a merry band He steals from the poor. And gives to the rich Stupid bitch.
How could you possibly hope to simulate all of reality if the simulation itself is embedded within reality?
Why, you'd use a good compression algorithm, of course. Every way of describing reality (except the wrong ways) is such an algorithm or part of it.
When we find the links between the different layers of abstraction, we're good to go, because then we know when we can apply, say Marxist analysis, to describe how capitalism oppresses the proletariat and leads to revolution also incorporating other abstractions like neuro-science and weather forecasting and such. At every level we just note the diff between the model and the specifics and when we get down to atoms bouncing off each other and strings vibrating (let's assume there is no randomness in quantum shit), we don't have to describe everything.
It's still kind of a daunting task, so I propose we wait for Moore to do it's thing until nearing the end of the universe and also build huge vacuum-cleaners that can pull lots of matter into them as to prevent those atoms and whatnot to interfere with measurements of other parts of the universe, so we can get a picture of exactly what there is, where it was going and how fast.
Yes, I think I agree at least a bit. But it should not be let out of hand so that "slum lords" (to the extent that they exist in Sweden) can let their houses decay even more while still not lowering rent. I guess those regulations should be easy enough to keep separate. No cockroaches and mildew is acceptable for the renters, for example.
And while I like the nice standards for living conditions, homeless people should be given sub-standard barracks to dwell in until proper apartments are available, I think...
Giving people homes would do a lot of good for society. An amphetamine addict (a common variety of homeless) will not lay about lazily on the granite floor of the doorway they broke into in the center of town. They'll get up bright and early to wander the streets looking for mischief.
Give them a home with a warm and cosy bed and they'll get up much later and might not go out committing crime all day some days, even if they don't have their fix. Giving people homes leads to a spiral of good.
Nor in Sweden. I don't know about the specific regulations here, but just looking around, it is clear that one can't live in just any old shack over here.
The standard of living doesn't start with a shack. It starts with a reasonably nice apartment (although in recent years the bourgeoisie have been laxing the rules for renovation). If, on a scale from 0 to 10 in standard of living 0 is the pavement, 1 is a shack and 10 is a castle, over here you get an apartment of standard 5 or thereabouts. If not, you're at standard 0.
I don't know if we should let people live in shanty towns, though. I'd rather we built enough nice enough apartments and let everyone have one.
I'd like to add that people should also get all the help they need to try to kick the habit if hey want that. Otherwise the legalization of everything might be too harsh a divider of people into the ones that can be well-coping recreational users and the miserable ones.
And fuck apple in general. Peddlers of bullshit. Destroyers of freedom.
i havent read tfa, but as to the phone being or not being a computer, the N900 is pretty much a debian gnu/linux machine.
On the maemo forums I stumbled across a thread about someone buying up "all" used N900 from ebay uk. Apparently they can sell them for more than what uk:ians wanna pay in some other country.
i agree the ios:s and androids are more like comm devices, but yo dawg, I can haz asterisk on my n900 if I wanna...
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Yes and no.
The hippie or whatever that wrote the software in the first place could disown any responsibility and tell you not to use it unless you use it at your own peril.
Some consultant could sell you the very same free software or a fork, and accept liability.
At least that's how this kind of thing should work. It would be silly to hold a person liable who says nobody should use the code and who doesn't get paid.
The answer if Free software. Probably the best software in the world. Use at your own peril.
Are you a boss? If not, I bet you wanna be. Anyway, there's a nice blog post about dealing with vermin like you:
http://tportis.wordpress.com/2011/01/02/understanding-the-psychology-of-the-kiss-upkick-down-leader/
>Define middle class
Wiki sez The middle class is any class of people in the middle of a societal hierarchy. In Weberian socio-economic terms, the middle class is the broad group of people in contemporary society who fall socio-economicaly between the working class and upper class.
Where I'm from, which is Sweden, I'd say middle class is a state of mind. Another fitting word might be "wannabees". There is no working class as such in Sweden. Any working person without addictions can afford a flat screen tv and such. There are the low class people - too sick, stupid or lazy or whatever to get a job (I'm one).
The working class has been moved to China. Nobody thinks in these terms. I don't know who calls the shots, but Marxism doesn't seem to be the tool of analysis du jour.
Neo-liberalism is the lie that has been pulled over your eyes.
Dang. Stupid reality. Maybe stones and bombs could help. Where should we put them? ;) Just kidding. I don't wish to stone and/or bomb anybody. We must forgive them, for they don't know what they're doing. Or so I'm told.
... All we need is love and Free Software. And even the love is not strictly a requisite.
Let's say everyone owns Free software, so nobody (i.e. everybody) is liable for faulty Free software. Everybody (i.e. nobody) pays.
In other words, sure, let the proprietors of proprietary software pay for software behaving badly.
If the software is free it's everybody's and nobody's responsibility. It's like culture and language in general. We do it together.
Who's with me?
I can make an appointment and be seen TODAY. You can't do that in socialized medicine.
We have drop-in on our socialized health center over here where I live in Sweden, so I don't even have to make a call. (nyah! nyah!)
After that there could be a longer wait to see a specialist, than in the US, but you know, people are healthier and it costs less with our system.
Many world-leading specialists are probably from the US. That's good in itself, but compared to health of and cost for everyone... So what? Great that you can provide the best care for the richest people?
For teaching skills, perhaps. But science, on its own, is not really a practical skill for most people (how often do you run an actual experiment?). The benefit and the purpose for teaching science is to teach people to think skeptically and logically, to learn to examine the data.
Some measure of imitation would be useful to have at the core of any kind of schooling. A teacher can set a good example to follow (for example by being enthusiastic about asking "why?" and about searching for answers) or show/get kids in touch with a good role-model, who appears cool/happy/smart/good and who will inspire kids to maybe want to do what they do.
I have no kind of inkling about the first sentence of the previous poster, but the part about 'teaches kids to ask "why?"' I'd like to amend: Hope it teaches them to want to ask "why?".
(Or maybe that would obviously be implied?)
Rats, I haven't done enough for your cause, but consider this: The enemy of your enemy is your friend. We are also know to splice up cat brains and I haven't done enough for their cause either.
Sorry. I feel the need to clarify. The ps. was completely off topic and was not just directed at the parent but at anyone in general.
We may end up seeing something similar to what happened with search engines- successive stages of different companies until someone got the product well enough to dominate the market (a long with a healthy dose of early mover effect compared to new rivals).
I'm hoping we'll make some progress. We should get a "social media" that is made by, for and of the people (to borrow from something that may not actually deserve that description). Powered by something like diaspora* and the freedombox.
ps. Check out the new .sig if you have an opinion on women.
Maybe I'm off on a tangent or somewhere completely different alltogether, but...
How about decentralization of planning, too? If everyone that wanted to could be part of decision making. That would probably be the best and most democratic (obviously) way? In this age of the internet, it should not be that hard to implement technically, either.
AFAICS, the only reason not to increase democracy to an extreme is the possibility that democracy really isn't good for people. And even if that were true, it must still be the only right thing to do, IMO.
Copy one thousand blocks of bread to standard output. I think it means feed a thousand people. It should have been written
dd -n 1000 if=/dev/bread
So, googling "feed a thousand people" yields the following quote off Zora Neale Hurston on top:
"If you feed a thousand people you are a nice man with suspicious motives. If you kill a thousand you are a hero. Continue to get them killed by the thousands and you are a great conqueror than which nothing on earth is greater. Oppress them and you are a great ruler. Rob them by law and they are proud and happy if you let them glimpse you occasionally surrounded by the riches that you have trampled out of their hides. You are truly divine if [...]"
http://quotes.dictionary.com/if_you_feed_a_thousand_people_you_are
I don't know if the intent was for it to lead there but if not, thank you serendipity.
>Frankly, if we had any principles, we should abandon linux (the kernel.) That guy is an amoral bastard. I shiver thinking what he could do with political power...
Don't sweat it. We can always fork Linux if we think the leader of the project tries abuse his powers. He has nothing but reputation to leverage. I suspect he's ok, but at th end of the day, it doesn't really matter.
ps. I don't blame you for not reading my mind and being able to glean any true intent from the hyperbolic snarcasm of my comment.
So 5 year olds should have the freedom to wander off and not be tracked? What the hell is wrong with you people?
I think you misunderstand. Obviously, you can not not be a bit of a despot when it comes to caring for children. We must, for example, restrict their freedom to run into the busy street because we know better than them.
I'm saying that I think there is a possibility that having gps clips on kids may be conditioning them to Big Brother earlier in their life than not having gps clips on them.
I haven't thought enough about this to definately make up my mind about if I think the benefits outweigh potential cultural costs (assuming Big Brother is not worthy of our love), but it's a perspective worth considering.
They are based in UK, so they so not retaining logs is illegal. If you want proxy without logs find one based in country without data retention laws. Hint: it is nowhere in EU.
Judicially, no. But, unless I'm mistaken (and don't base hiding of ass on my level of informedness, please), Sweden is for example not abiding by that EU law yet, incurring ever growing fines in the process.
My ISP still claims the logs of who had what IP at what point in time are gone in about a week.
Exactly. They don't know, yet. So, we must make sure they learn to love Big Brother.
Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore
Riding through the land
Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore
Without a merry band
He steals from the poor. And gives to the rich
Stupid bitch.
How could you possibly hope to simulate all of reality if the simulation itself is embedded within reality?
Why, you'd use a good compression algorithm, of course. Every way of describing reality (except the wrong ways) is such an algorithm or part of it.
When we find the links between the different layers of abstraction, we're good to go, because then we know when we can apply, say Marxist analysis, to describe how capitalism oppresses the proletariat and leads to revolution also incorporating other abstractions like neuro-science and weather forecasting and such. At every level we just note the diff between the model and the specifics and when we get down to atoms bouncing off each other and strings vibrating (let's assume there is no randomness in quantum shit), we don't have to describe everything.
It's still kind of a daunting task, so I propose we wait for Moore to do it's thing until nearing the end of the universe and also build huge vacuum-cleaners that can pull lots of matter into them as to prevent those atoms and whatnot to interfere with measurements of other parts of the universe, so we can get a picture of exactly what there is, where it was going and how fast.
Yes, I think I agree at least a bit. But it should not be let out of hand so that "slum lords" (to the extent that they exist in Sweden) can let their houses decay even more while still not lowering rent. I guess those regulations should be easy enough to keep separate. No cockroaches and mildew is acceptable for the renters, for example.
And while I like the nice standards for living conditions, homeless people should be given sub-standard barracks to dwell in until proper apartments are available, I think...
Giving people homes would do a lot of good for society. An amphetamine addict (a common variety of homeless) will not lay about lazily on the granite floor of the doorway they broke into in the center of town. They'll get up bright and early to wander the streets looking for mischief.
Give them a home with a warm and cosy bed and they'll get up much later and might not go out committing crime all day some days, even if they don't have their fix. Giving people homes leads to a spiral of good.
Nor in Sweden. I don't know about the specific regulations here, but just looking around, it is clear that one can't live in just any old shack over here.
The standard of living doesn't start with a shack. It starts with a reasonably nice apartment (although in recent years the bourgeoisie have been laxing the rules for renovation). If, on a scale from 0 to 10 in standard of living 0 is the pavement, 1 is a shack and 10 is a castle, over here you get an apartment of standard 5 or thereabouts. If not, you're at standard 0.
I don't know if we should let people live in shanty towns, though. I'd rather we built enough nice enough apartments and let everyone have one.
Aye. I second your motion.
I'd like to add that people should also get all the help they need to try to kick the habit if hey want that. Otherwise the legalization of everything might be too harsh a divider of people into the ones that can be well-coping recreational users and the miserable ones.
And fuck apple in general. Peddlers of bullshit. Destroyers of freedom.
i havent read tfa, but as to the phone being or not being a computer, the N900 is pretty much a debian gnu/linux machine.
On the maemo forums I stumbled across a thread about someone buying up "all" used N900 from ebay uk. Apparently they can sell them for more than what uk:ians wanna pay in some other country.
i agree the ios:s and androids are more like comm devices, but yo dawg, I can haz asterisk on my n900 if I wanna...