My first impressions after watching both movies and reading both books, IIRC, since it was many years ago (I'm 34), were:
2001: great book, masterpiece of a movie.
2010: maybe even a better book than 2001, but a regular movie.
I still enjoyed the whole thing, of course.
I was able to see a restored version of 2001 in a proper movie screen in the end of the 90's. That's an experience I won't forget.
I do find it weird that people who love the book consider the movie boring though... I mean, it goes by faster than the book, of course, and it's basically the same thing, just masterfully illustrated. It's like watching a slide show. I actually have a book about the movie, with thousands of pictures from the actual frames. Interesting stuff.
Well, it would be if it was possible to watch it without falling asleep within less than an hour into the film.
You must be american. It's no wonder a genius of that magnitude decided to get the hell out. I hope you choke on popcorn the next time you think you're watching a movie.
There's so much on that masterpiece you'd take your lifetime just to grasp the obvious 10%. If you could focus for more than half an hour, that is.
The book retains the original planet of Saturn, yet strangely it gets changed to Jupiter in the later books (I guess to be canon with the movie?
They should either change the whole thing (in all books, including 2001) to Jupiter, or stick with Saturn in all books (again, including 2001) since we know the reason why Kubrick couldn't stick to the original plan.
It's something that can easily be changed in a book in any new edition, but in the movie... well, not so much. Not to mention Kubrick would rise from the dead and destroy all manking if someone even thought about changing something in one of his movies. Covers and posters included!
Anyway, too bad slashdot wasn't around in the 60's so we could fix this. Now it's kind of too late.
Yes, they managed to fool everyone in there into thinking that they were actually in space (until they led them out to their first space walk to an audience). The space ship had a gravity generator in it which is why there was no change in gravity strength. They didn't go insane.
Well, if they fell for that they didn't have to go insane, they'd have a huge headstart to begin with.
It's a shame I wasn't involved in the production of that one! I'd apoint one as commander and give him a Napoleon suit!
Are you kidding me?! Good people run from politics like it's the plague. That's how bad it is now. We need a way to figure out which of those asses stinks less. If any.
Are you somehow trying to connect this post to TFA by open-sourcing politicians private lives?
No need to. TFA did that for me:
'Cheap, ubiquitous sensing has the potential to turn the worlds of privacy and civil rights upside-down...'
The loss of privacy thing is getting out of hand pretty much everywhere. In the UK they jumped the shark sooner than anywhere else. Privacy laws are being implemented by politians. I'm just saying that, if anything, they should be the ones REQUIRED to relinquish that right.
It would be a win-win situation for everyone:
Either they'd never do it, and drop the whole thing altogehter, leaving us populace alone.
Or they'd go through it and the right set of darwin laws would finally be applied to politics (ie, not money), because we'd finally know who we'd be voting for.
And, of course, it would also be great for honest politicians, because they'd finally have a shot. Let's not kid ourselves, an honest politician doesn't stand a change. The big corporations and pressure groups have no interest in them. And you can take the US as an example here: only 2 parties in the game! WTF? Where's the democracy there? And, of course, you have to buy your way into a spot in one of those 2 parties. Then you have to buy the big one. It's amazing. No other country in the world as ever been so in need of a revolution as the pre-Obama US. Soon we'll see whether or not the Obama presidency turns out to be that revolution. That would be great, much better of course.
But would you vote for a dumb imcompetent guy just because he was honest?
What I meant is that it's easier to figure how smart or competent someone is, than knowing how the hell he uses his smarts to be successful.
Besides, I'll take a dumb (well, at least not super-bright) but honest and morally capable dude over someone like Dick Cheney. And you can replace Dick with pretty much any other name you know, it'll still support my point.
And by having access to all that data I can assure you I'll be able to figure out how smart the guy is more easily.
I propose that politians should have no privacy. All their records should be open long before the regular citizen should go through that. All emails, all text messages, phone calls, bank accounts, credit card records, loans, etc.
That way we'll know who to trust. Shouldn't politics be required to be like that anyway?
How will we know who we're really voting for.
If everything was public ideally the good people would (finally) finish ahead. And thus so would we.
Any takers?
PS: ban lobbies too, while we're at it! Let's give democracy a shot for a change.
(note to astronomy impaired, you generally don't get to see stars more than 90 degrees from your lattitude (yer local zenith, eh?), polaris is about 90 deg N (hence "north star"), so no one below the equator will ever see it (more or less). And no, I don't know what that is in the metric system)
Now I'm confused. Are those 90 degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit?
This is an outrageous insult to the Dutch people. Expect to see a lot of burning embassies in the news soon.
You're missing the point. This means there were once trees on the moon!
BMIs? WTF!
Big Mean Idiots?
PS: LOLZ
My first impressions after watching both movies and reading both books, IIRC, since it was many years ago (I'm 34), were:
2001: great book, masterpiece of a movie.
2010: maybe even a better book than 2001, but a regular movie.
I still enjoyed the whole thing, of course.
I was able to see a restored version of 2001 in a proper movie screen in the end of the 90's. That's an experience I won't forget.
I do find it weird that people who love the book consider the movie boring though... I mean, it goes by faster than the book, of course, and it's basically the same thing, just masterfully illustrated. It's like watching a slide show. I actually have a book about the movie, with thousands of pictures from the actual frames. Interesting stuff.
Finally, a plan!
hope Arkanoid makes the short list.
Ah, Arkanoid, the single player version of pong. I really miss that one.
Well, it would be if it was possible to watch it without falling asleep within less than an hour into the film.
You must be american. It's no wonder a genius of that magnitude decided to get the hell out. I hope you choke on popcorn the next time you think you're watching a movie.
There's so much on that masterpiece you'd take your lifetime just to grasp the obvious 10%. If you could focus for more than half an hour, that is.
But hey, don't take my word for it.
The book retains the original planet of Saturn, yet strangely it gets changed to Jupiter in the later books (I guess to be canon with the movie?
They should either change the whole thing (in all books, including 2001) to Jupiter, or stick with Saturn in all books (again, including 2001) since we know the reason why Kubrick couldn't stick to the original plan.
It's something that can easily be changed in a book in any new edition, but in the movie... well, not so much. Not to mention Kubrick would rise from the dead and destroy all manking if someone even thought about changing something in one of his movies. Covers and posters included!
Anyway, too bad slashdot wasn't around in the 60's so we could fix this. Now it's kind of too late.
Saturn is the right planet, stupid movie be damned.
Dude, take it back! It's only the best non-porn movie ever!
virgin planetary ecosystems
Oh, great! Now you made me wanna volunteer.
Man, Black and Decker's marketing team is really getting desperate.
I can't wait for the first power tool manufacturer to go bust and be forced to turn to the sex toy market! Ah, the possibilities are endless.
Now that I think of it, I feel the same way about some celebs...
Ia Ia Cthulhu nal fatang!!!!!
Sounds like what the Knights of Ni would say if they became Mythos fans.
Nah, they'd probably say:
Ni Ni Niiiiii Nii Niiiii!!!!!
Which incidently means exactly the same.
Yes, they managed to fool everyone in there into thinking that they were actually in space (until they led them out to their first space walk to an audience). The space ship had a gravity generator in it which is why there was no change in gravity strength. They didn't go insane.
Well, if they fell for that they didn't have to go insane, they'd have a huge headstart to begin with.
It's a shame I wasn't involved in the production of that one! I'd apoint one as commander and give him a Napoleon suit!
Let me help you... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outdoors [wikipedia.org]
Wow, it must be huge!
You know why we won't see that? Because that would require the kids to leave their homes and go outside.
Other way around! We won't see that, because we would have to leave our homes and go outside to see the teens.
This is getting too technical for me and there's no wikipedia entry for 'outside' or 'outdoors'...
I'm new here. What's this "Wikipedia" and where do I find it?
Here. That'll sort this whole thread out...
Get the Java dick out of your ass please.
Hey, leave the other dude alone and wait for your turn.
Can someone please explain the reference for this joke.
What joke? We're all serious people here.
And yeah, this whole cable in the sewer thing is what's making internet content so filthy.
Why, are you trying to keep all the gay fun for yourself?!
<SEINFELD>No that there's anything wrong with that!</SEINFELD>
Cut him some slack. Either he's american (remember, they ellected Bush - although only once... :) or he was sent to spin.
I put spin up there with lobbying.
WTH! Why don't the media just find an unbiased independent commentator and let him do the talking. Probably none available.
Better just give Bill Maher a call, he'll trash both sides.
Are you kidding me?! Good people run from politics like it's the plague. That's how bad it is now. We need a way to figure out which of those asses stinks less. If any.
Are you somehow trying to connect this post to TFA by open-sourcing politicians private lives?
No need to. TFA did that for me:
'Cheap, ubiquitous sensing has the potential to turn the worlds of privacy and civil rights upside-down...'
The loss of privacy thing is getting out of hand pretty much everywhere. In the UK they jumped the shark sooner than anywhere else. Privacy laws are being implemented by politians. I'm just saying that, if anything, they should be the ones REQUIRED to relinquish that right.
It would be a win-win situation for everyone:
Either they'd never do it, and drop the whole thing altogehter, leaving us populace alone.
Or they'd go through it and the right set of darwin laws would finally be applied to politics (ie, not money), because we'd finally know who we'd be voting for.
And, of course, it would also be great for honest politicians, because they'd finally have a shot. Let's not kid ourselves, an honest politician doesn't stand a change. The big corporations and pressure groups have no interest in them. And you can take the US as an example here: only 2 parties in the game! WTF? Where's the democracy there? And, of course, you have to buy your way into a spot in one of those 2 parties. Then you have to buy the big one. It's amazing. No other country in the world as ever been so in need of a revolution as the pre-Obama US. Soon we'll see whether or not the Obama presidency turns out to be that revolution. That would be great, much better of course.
But would you vote for a dumb imcompetent guy just because he was honest?
What I meant is that it's easier to figure how smart or competent someone is, than knowing how the hell he uses his smarts to be successful.
Besides, I'll take a dumb (well, at least not super-bright) but honest and morally capable dude over someone like Dick Cheney. And you can replace Dick with pretty much any other name you know, it'll still support my point.
And by having access to all that data I can assure you I'll be able to figure out how smart the guy is more easily.
I propose that politians should have no privacy. All their records should be open long before the regular citizen should go through that. All emails, all text messages, phone calls, bank accounts, credit card records, loans, etc.
That way we'll know who to trust. Shouldn't politics be required to be like that anyway?
How will we know who we're really voting for.
If everything was public ideally the good people would (finally) finish ahead. And thus so would we.
Any takers?
PS: ban lobbies too, while we're at it! Let's give democracy a shot for a change.
We should be able to mod this Flamebait-but-beyond-that-he's-fucking-right...
(note to astronomy impaired, you generally don't get to see stars more than 90 degrees from your lattitude (yer local zenith, eh?), polaris is about 90 deg N (hence "north star"), so no one below the equator will ever see it (more or less). And no, I don't know what that is in the metric system)
Now I'm confused. Are those 90 degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit?