support multiple graphics cards, multiple monitors, and graphics drivers can now directly access the hardware.
Well, are we talking about NT or W9x? NT did not have multiple monitors supported until service pack 4 for 4.0, and became standard in 2000. W9x got this in W98, and it didn't work too well when I tried to use my extra video card and 15" montor. You could have a text based second monitor for many years on Linux and Windows or so that is what I thought. If I am wrong then someone please correct me. Either way the features that you speak of were not supported by Windows for many years. Molog
Well it is obvious that greed is bad. Decisions made entirely based on greed actually result in the loss of freedoms (DMCA, UCITA). At the same time not all of the acts done in the pursuit of greed have been bad. If people didn't get anything for their work they would not work. Greed can be bad, but it is a good motivator. I hope that I'm not babbling... Too late. Molog
You are right. If trade is being opened up with China then we should drop all trade barriers we have against any country out there including Cuba. I might be the minority here but I think that free trade might be a good thing. Let's face it, our capitalist society works(sorta) because people are greedy. Give some money to the Chinese people and hopefully they will show their greed as well. Greed is one of the most powerful motivators in the world and it could be enough to change the government. The question is would that be a good change? From what I see in the US, maybe not. Molog
It seems the majority of slashdot readers (read: redneck ignorant americans) find the idea of other people (read: non-americans) being slaughtered by the Nazis humorous.
Well I don't think there is a need to be calling names and I didn't read any posts saying that people getting slaughtered by the Nazis was humorous. The comment seems to be a slam to the French government, probably not a very insightful one seeing how Hitler's army was at the time was the most devastating army on earth.
BTW, how about you all think about it for a second . Would you be as lenient if someone in North Vietnam was using Yahoo to auction off American GI dogtags and other trophies and memorabilia from the Vietnam war? I would think not.
Actually I would have no problem with this and my father is a Vietnam vet. If they want to sell stuff like that, who cares? My Dad might get upset but he would get over it in less then a minute. Bad example I guess. Molog
Jeez... Sorry. As far as the used market goes, I call upon first sale. They don't get squat because it was already sold and those that bought them cartridges have the right to sell them again. I don't feel too sorry for them there. Still it would be nice to see them at least make the ROMS free but still hold trademarks etc. They are not making any money from them anymore. I was not making a personal attack on you and I am sorry if I misunderstood your post. Molog
did the copyright holders of those games get a penny of it? Almost certainly not. They're the ones complaining, here, not the used Nintendo industry.
Actually you are wrong. In the article I will quote this. "Copyrights and trademarks of games are corporate assets," Nintendo says on its Web site. That doesn't sound like the copyright holders and not Nintendo, it sounds like Nintendo and not the copyright holders becuase they are smart enough to know they have made their money from it already and have moved onto other stuff. If you have a counter example of one of the copyright holders getting mad I would love to see it. Molog
It was a small college town and it was heavily wooded. I know it was stupid but when you are partially drunk you don't think right. It was a big enough party that they had other fish to fry so that also played a role. Given the situation it wasn't just luck. Let me just say it was meant more to be a joke. Unfortuantely I was taken too seriously. If you are actually trying to avoid the police you will almost always get caught. It is ok to run from campus security though. Molog
Don't ever run from the law. . . You'll only end up going to jail tired.
Well it all depends. I was a runner in college (still am) and my freshman year the police came and busted up a party that I was at with some of the other guys on the team. They were checking the ID's of everyone who had alcholohol and becuase all of us were under 21, we went out the back only to find some cops their too. We took off running and those out of shape cops didn't have a chance and we got back to campus safe and sound. So some times you can run from the law =) Molog
I always thought that the big distros that everyone knew about were Slackware, RedHat, Suse, Debian, Mandrake and Caldera. Corel is a new comer and it wouldn't make sense for them to port a distro focused on usability to a mainframe. Caldera is probably losing its spot as a "Main Linux distrobution" as it seems that people in the Linux comunity don't like them too much and anytime they open their mouths people here seem to take the attitude "Caldera shut the hell up!" I thought though that Debian was bringing a port over? Molog
Jack the Ripper? That is hardly a fair comparison. He broke into quite a few systems. He did not though profit or destroy anything thus, in my mind, causing no damage but they treated him worse then they treat wife beaters. In my home town, a guy beat his wife so bad that her left eye came lose from the socket but he only got two nights in jail. Mitnick did what? 5 years? Does anyone else see something wrong here? Molog
I assume that you are talking about the fact that Linux development is done by volunteers. This is changing a little bit now. IBM has thrown their weight behind it porting their database software and GPLing their JFS from AIX. While IBM has been stating that they will continue to focus AIX at higher end customers I know a few people over there who tell me that they are doing their best to beef up that bad boy to make it a real solution for enterprise business. Don't forget SGI pretty much putting quite a few engineers into kernel development as well as porting a lot of great software from IRIX over. SCO seems to have been assimilated as well but too early to make a statement about them. It is true that the Linux stocks took off way too high at first but now they have come to reasonable levels. I believe that RedHat is here to stay as they have a good business model. I know a lot of people complain about their distro is beginning to go downhill but I think that is a little exaggerated but if there is a real problem another distro can kick their butt and RedHat will have to catch up. This having to catch up never happened with MS. Who says having a million and one distro's are bad? Back to my point. Linux is more then a great learning tool. It now has the both the volunteers and those in the corporate world working on it. People thought Linux would never make it as far as it did and people still are calling it a fad but I believe that it or another OSS will continue to evolve and overcome proprietary systems in all areas. I could be wrong but I remember people saying Linux will never be used in businesses back in 96 but it isn't uncommon to find Linux boxen in ISP's and other businesses now as a quick work around or web server. Ok, I have gone on enough. Molog
What it sounds like to me is that Corel is ripe for a takeover. Basically some company can come along ang get Wordperfect. Granted it is losing market share but if someone competant takes control it can still make money, not to mention CorelDRAW. Molog
Was this done to bring over Unix apps to Darwin/MacOS X, or is Aqua something that actually runs on X11? Well it definitely looks like Darwin can be considered a full fledged BSD system now but what is Apple really trying to do? Molog
I can assure you this is not being released just to please the open source community itself. Its very strongly for corporate reasons also.
Well seeing how Motif is used entirely on Unix platforms and almost all the major Unix players are embracing open source then this is being done to please the open source community. It really doesn't make any difference now anyway. GTK and QT are taking over. GTK may not be completely ready for advanced apps but QT is. People both in the open source community and proprietary hate Motif. I have talked with some of the IBM engineers and they constantly share their disdain of that accursed toolkit. Like it or not current development is being done with either QT, GTK or a home grown toolkit. This is the direct result of the stagnation of Motif. It is dead for good or ill. Molog
In the origonal article contained the full document. That one should be removed. The rest were nothing but links or instructions. The one that did copy should be removed but the rest should stay. Molog
...had the entire document posted. The rest were links and instructions for getting around the EULA. You used posts as in plural, when it should have been singular. Molog
It's very possible. (note I don't have the links for these mostly becuase I'm lazzy, if someone wants to post the links the stories or docs which I will mention) The Holloween docuements show that MS was trying to go after Linux. There is an internal email in which MS wants to make life a bitch for Palm users. This Kerberos extension paper that they are in a huff about is nothing more then extensions to a free standard, to which their making these extension closed might be a violation of the origonal license that Kerberos was released with. Let us assume that you are correct that the spec that was posted to slashdot was in violation of MS's copyright. Removing only that is not what we are angry about. The worst is this. MS wants posts that tell how to get around the EULA, or links to the document without the broilerplate to be removed as well. I think we should remove any copies of the full document but these other posts must stay and that is where the fight is. Do you agree? Molog
and DeCSS has already been deemed illegal to have in your possesion
I thought that legality of DeCSS had not been determined yet. There is an injunction against sites hosting it but there is no decision that it is illegal to have in their possession. If this has changed, can someone let me know and give a link to the ruling? Molog
Very well. I apologize for my spelling and for the grammar in my.sig. I should have used ispell but seeing how it offends you so much please accept my apologies one and all. Molog
Well there seems to be a little bit of an impass here. Will the admin stand up for the right of free speach and fight this fight or will they surrender to the will of the man? I don't know what MS is doing to be honest. They are trying to make their public relations nightmare worse then it already is. Please CmdrTaco and company, stand up to this. Molog
I have to admit that I do not know patent law that well. I thought that you could patent an algorithm, but not just doing something. RSA handles encryption but if applies to the process of encrypting data then all encryption would be covered by the RSA patent. Thus, their algorithm is patented, but if someone finds a different way to encode the sound to MP3 then that's that I thought. Again, I don't know the laws specifically. If I am wrong can you point me where to go to find out? Molog
This virus specifically? Probably not. Would someone come up with exactly the same thing for whatever other mail system there was out there? Yes.
Well there are two problems here. First off, if an email attachment that was sent to a dumb Linux user contained a bash script or something very nasty, that user would first have to chmod +x it. There are more then one email system that is used in Linux. Sendmail is one, and I believe that fetchmail could be used in this regard if a script was executed. The script relied on just one system, the interface to outlook. Depending on what client used, there are quite a lot of email clients for Linux, then getting the email address to send off would be a problem. The wide spread threat of a trojen like this spreading through Linux is very unlikely. First the user has to be dumb enough to chmod it, then the script writter would have had to make it robust enough to handle more then one mailing system and many email clients. Molog
This trojan has cost over a billion dollars in damage.
A BILLION dollars? How did you come up with that figure and what did it do that caused that damage. Did it cause hardware to blow up? Did it steal it from bank accounts? Hmm? I am so sick of hearing about damages that a virus or what ever causes without telling us how that figure came about. Molog
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Well, are we talking about NT or W9x? NT did not have multiple monitors supported until service pack 4 for 4.0, and became standard in 2000. W9x got this in W98, and it didn't work too well when I tried to use my extra video card and 15" montor. You could have a text based second monitor for many years on Linux and Windows or so that is what I thought. If I am wrong then someone please correct me. Either way the features that you speak of were not supported by Windows for many years.
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Well I don't think there is a need to be calling names and I didn't read any posts saying that people getting slaughtered by the Nazis was humorous. The comment seems to be a slam to the French government, probably not a very insightful one seeing how Hitler's army was at the time was the most devastating army on earth.
BTW, how about you all think about it for a second . Would you be as lenient if someone in North Vietnam was using Yahoo to auction off American GI dogtags and other trophies and memorabilia from the Vietnam war? I would think not.
Actually I would have no problem with this and my father is a Vietnam vet. If they want to sell stuff like that, who cares? My Dad might get upset but he would get over it in less then a minute. Bad example I guess.
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Actually you are wrong. In the article I will quote this. "Copyrights and trademarks of games are corporate assets," Nintendo says on its Web site. That doesn't sound like the copyright holders and not Nintendo, it sounds like Nintendo and not the copyright holders becuase they are smart enough to know they have made their money from it already and have moved onto other stuff. If you have a counter example of one of the copyright holders getting mad I would love to see it.
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
I can tell you from personal experiance that Dodge Neons really suck.
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Well it all depends. I was a runner in college (still am) and my freshman year the police came and busted up a party that I was at with some of the other guys on the team. They were checking the ID's of everyone who had alcholohol and becuase all of us were under 21, we went out the back only to find some cops their too. We took off running and those out of shape cops didn't have a chance and we got back to campus safe and sound. So some times you can run from the law =)
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
I assume that you are talking about the fact that Linux development is done by volunteers. This is changing a little bit now. IBM has thrown their weight behind it porting their database software and GPLing their JFS from AIX. While IBM has been stating that they will continue to focus AIX at higher end customers I know a few people over there who tell me that they are doing their best to beef up that bad boy to make it a real solution for enterprise business. Don't forget SGI pretty much putting quite a few engineers into kernel development as well as porting a lot of great software from IRIX over. SCO seems to have been assimilated as well but too early to make a statement about them. It is true that the Linux stocks took off way too high at first but now they have come to reasonable levels. I believe that RedHat is here to stay as they have a good business model. I know a lot of people complain about their distro is beginning to go downhill but I think that is a little exaggerated but if there is a real problem another distro can kick their butt and RedHat will have to catch up. This having to catch up never happened with MS. Who says having a million and one distro's are bad? Back to my point. Linux is more then a great learning tool. It now has the both the volunteers and those in the corporate world working on it. People thought Linux would never make it as far as it did and people still are calling it a fad but I believe that it or another OSS will continue to evolve and overcome proprietary systems in all areas. I could be wrong but I remember people saying Linux will never be used in businesses back in 96 but it isn't uncommon to find Linux boxen in ISP's and other businesses now as a quick work around or web server. Ok, I have gone on enough.
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Well seeing how Motif is used entirely on Unix platforms and almost all the major Unix players are embracing open source then this is being done to please the open source community. It really doesn't make any difference now anyway. GTK and QT are taking over. GTK may not be completely ready for advanced apps but QT is. People both in the open source community and proprietary hate Motif. I have talked with some of the IBM engineers and they constantly share their disdain of that accursed toolkit. Like it or not current development is being done with either QT, GTK or a home grown toolkit. This is the direct result of the stagnation of Motif. It is dead for good or ill.
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
It's very possible. (note I don't have the links for these mostly becuase I'm lazzy, if someone wants to post the links the stories or docs which I will mention) The Holloween docuements show that MS was trying to go after Linux. There is an internal email in which MS wants to make life a bitch for Palm users. This Kerberos extension paper that they are in a huff about is nothing more then extensions to a free standard, to which their making these extension closed might be a violation of the origonal license that Kerberos was released with. Let us assume that you are correct that the spec that was posted to slashdot was in violation of MS's copyright. Removing only that is not what we are angry about. The worst is this. MS wants posts that tell how to get around the EULA, or links to the document without the broilerplate to be removed as well. I think we should remove any copies of the full document but these other posts must stay and that is where the fight is. Do you agree?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
and DeCSS has already been deemed illegal to have in your possesion
I thought that legality of DeCSS had not been determined yet. There is an injunction against sites hosting it but there is no decision that it is illegal to have in their possession. If this has changed, can someone let me know and give a link to the ruling?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
Well there are two problems here. First off, if an email attachment that was sent to a dumb Linux user contained a bash script or something very nasty, that user would first have to chmod +x it. There are more then one email system that is used in Linux. Sendmail is one, and I believe that fetchmail could be used in this regard if a script was executed. The script relied on just one system, the interface to outlook. Depending on what client used, there are quite a lot of email clients for Linux, then getting the email address to send off would be a problem. The wide spread threat of a trojen like this spreading through Linux is very unlikely. First the user has to be dumb enough to chmod it, then the script writter would have had to make it robust enough to handle more then one mailing system and many email clients.
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?
A BILLION dollars? How did you come up with that figure and what did it do that caused that damage. Did it cause hardware to blow up? Did it steal it from bank accounts? Hmm? I am so sick of hearing about damages that a virus or what ever causes without telling us how that figure came about.
Molog
So Linus, what are we doing tonight?