Wikipedia is an encyclopedia - not a paper encyclopedia but still and encyclopedia....
An encyclopedia is NOT a primary source! It is a secondary source and can be sited/quoted as such and yes encyclopedias can cite and quote each other, the only problem with this is if they start doing this in a circular fashion with no primary source.
Quoting from an encyclopedia is fine...
Citing an encyclopedia is lazy (not really wrong but lazy)... go to the primary source....
You would quote an encyclopedia as a primary source...?
an Encyclopedia by definition contains no original research it only has an explanation or summary of other works and has references to those works so you can use those as primary sources, the problem here is not plagiarised material but using the primary source not a secondary source?
Wikipedia is full of plagiarised material, but it does not charge for it, is at least attempting to stop it?, and it is well known that this is the case.
Even if the wikipedia article is not the original source then Wiley would have to prove that, by finding where it came from and paying them for the plagiarism, the point here is not weather wikipedia has been plagiarised but that Wiley has published a book with plagiarised work in it....
For your information Wikiepdia is an encyclopedia by definition, unless you want to dismiss it on a technicality? You may not agree with the way it is run, or it's contents, but the information on it is as useful as from a traditional encyclopedia, (I would trust the contents of wikipedia in a well written article as much as an article in Britannica i.e I would expect both to have mistakes)
Freedom for business - Like Standard Oil or Microsoft means a monopoly that sells for the highest the market will bear, government intervention should be limited in this case to preventing monopolies so competition drives down prices
This seems to be all about local government selling exclusive contracts so forming a local monopoly, thus the price and quality of service has no competition, a higher layer of government needs to regulate this to stimulate competition so the local provider has a reason to provide a decent service at a reasonable price...
The difference is that Wikipedia does not charge me to read the plagarised text or claim that any of it is original work (it's an encyclopedia, not a primary source)
Wiley are charging people for the book and claiming that it is a totally original work when all they would have needed to do is attribute the short piece of text to Wikipedia and all would have been well?
It looks like either they are lazy (couldn't be bothered to attribute) or sloppy (didn't bother to check their researchers sources) either of which does not do good to their reputation...
I have always like what Michael Faraday said when the Britsh Prime Minister William Gladstone asked what the practical value of electricity was, he replied "One day sir, you may tax it."
The impact was in 1908 - First expedition to investigate was in 1927 - no crater found
The epicentre was marked by a group of trees still standing upright, their branches and bark stripped off, and all the trees around them blown over away from this point, what is now known to be the classic signs of an air-blast
The Lake was known about and recorded before the event, is much older than the event, and is not an impact crater!
Note this study was done by Marine Geologists who are obviously familiar with the lasting effects of air-blasts and terrestrial impact craters?
Lake Cheko is in the wrong place (8km from the epicentre), the wrong shape (not an impact crater), and at least 5000 years old (by the layers of mud accumulated on the lake bed, and an air-burst 3-6 miles up would not leave an impact crater....?
This is what is wrong with the patent system in the US - In the UK (at the moment, mostly...) you cannot patent a thing only a process, so you cannot patent your product only your method of making it, in the same way you cannot patent a drug only your method of making that drug, you cannot patent a gene only your method of creating or isolating that gene, and if we had software patents (which we thankfully don't) you would only be able to patent the process of writing software not software itself (you could patent a RAD system now, but not the software that implements that process)
In the US the patent system is broken since it allows the patenting of things not methods, this really extends copywrite rather than being a separate process?
Patent your method Copywrite your original idea Trademark your logo/name
That's why P2P traffic is throttled, and there are usage caps (even on "unlimited" accounts)
what most people want is fast for a short while then nothing for most of the rest of the time
The exception is P2P traffic (at the moment) but soon the revenue stream will also be in Streaming video (movies on demand) then they will find the bandwidth (or someone else will...)
If the OS is working properly then you should not be aware of it's existence?
Windows has sold us on the GUI is the OS - It isn't
Linux has the right idea - Linux is a kernel... that apps like XWindows, KDE etc.. can run on... But you can run an XWindows app on a 286 and it can be fast if it's a small app and you don't load all the desktop cruft you get with distros, and all the services that are loaded as standard
A pared down disto (Like DamnSmallLinux) shows what can be done but this can be taken even further.. desktop could consist of three buttons (email, web, Write?) preconfigured for the hardware you actually have, no extra programs/services, would fit in a tiny footprint, and if its on ROM is totally immune from viruses and malware
Use fibre-optics... Distance no (major) problem, bandwidth no problem
Makes copper DSL look like a joke...?
The only reason DSL was invented at all was because the telcos had so much invested in existing copper technology and did not want the expense of upgrading all the end users
In the UK the cable companies (or Virgin Media as they seem to all be now!) do not seem to be using their advantage? ADSL is limited to 20Mbps (theoretically if you live *in* the exchange) this will extend that to 100Mbps? But some cable modems already run at 160Mbps but are not supported by any of the cable companies in the UK (Virgin Media max is 20 Mbit/s but at least this is a real 20Mbit/s and not the theoretical of ADSL)?
The point is that films are published, sold and listed so are citable, webcomics are put up on a website, and unless mentioned elsewhere are, by Wikipedia's (or any other encylopedia's) standards not notable (since they have not been mentioned in published media)
This is not as arbitary as you think - an encyclopedia is not a primary source it needs to reference other sources and these cannot be blogs or similar since they cannot be regarded as reliable?
A WebComic that is number 1 in some list is still not notable unless it has been mentioned in popular culture and in published media, this can be biased against some internet only items, it does act as a filter for fanboy ego trips. If your webcomic is that popular why hasn't it been mentioned outside the internet? Why does it not get referenced in newspapers? Why does it not get awards? Perhaps it is not as popular and widely known as you think?
I have heard of X-Men.... but my point still stands, before this I had heard of X-Men, Juggernaut, and many characters from many Comics and Films, but had never heard of this, so why is it notable?
It was an internet meme and was famous on the internet but not outside it, until it was mentioned on MTV (note all other cites on the article (that exists again) are for blogs or websites) the mention in an interview for MTV is the only cite that is from a reliable source in Wikipedia's terms and is probably the only reason the article has not been deleted.
Wikipedia has a problem with internet meme's and web-only events in that they leave no paper trail unless they become so large that they seep into popular culture outside the internet (as this did), but if it allowed cites from "unreliable" sources then it would be chaos since it is relatively easy to pollute the internet with citable material (Wikipedia itself does this, since much of its text is copied by many other websites, a lie on Wikipedia if not spotted becomes a fact on multiple websites fairly quickly...)
...and the main compliant was that they were writing essays not articles (writing style was arguing a point of view, rather than stating the facts) and that they did not cite sources (or did not cite properly) i.e. they acted as new editors have always acted in Wikipedia. It was only noticed because they did it on mass from similarly named accounts and so were suspected as being one person... The Professor was contacted and apologised, and said he would prepare the students better next time by including giving them some of the Wikipedia editing guides, but said "My experience though is that no matter how often you explain matters of style and substance, students will do what students do"
Two things - 1 : Never heard of the "Juggernaut Bitch" video, don't know which movie you are referring to.... I have heard of a lot of the characters in Final Fantasy and Star Wars? I suspect it is not very notable.....?
2 : the notability standards are biased against web only things (like webcomics) since it will only accept citations from print sources or news sources, so unless it has gained visibility to the news media, or won an award it is not likely to meet the notability criteria even if it is notable on the web....This is a problem!
Microsoft would not bother european based companies, europe does not have software patents, they might sue a european based company that sells into the US in the US courts?
Microsoft has been asked repeatedly to "Show us the Patents" and back up their claims, but they have not, if they had a case they would have sued, they have in the past, so they obviously do not have a strong case... It is suspected that the patents they are referring to, either do not cover just Linux (OpenOffice, Apache, MySQL etc...), or are "obvious" and so should not have been granted, have prior art and so would be overturned, or (if known) could be simply worked around, Microsoft would probably lose the case and a lot of patents and the Linux market would carry on as though nothing had happened, individual companies however could be damaged unless a group of them got together (including IBM) and counter-sued.
Microsoft's best tactic if the patents are weak is to do what they are doing.. say Linux infringes our IP and give no details..Sign patent protection deals to bolster their case if it ever comes to court. If they has a strong case their best tactic would be to sue the Linux vendors one by one.
The problem is they have a court case the shows the IP is not used elsewhere, and does not appear to give any special advantage. The case also showed they do not own Unix (not even the name) and so what do they have to sell? It seems they just have (a rather tainted) version of unix that does not have any special features and is not widely used....?
They do however have large debts and a very suspect reputation... not the kind of company that is very saleable
Wireless will NEVER be faster than a physical connection - it's just cheaper and more convenient.
DSL is currently maxed at 24Mbit/s 802.16e is rated at 70Mbps Fibre runs at least 10Gbit/s already....
Copper is never going to be much faster this is just cleaver tweaking.. use faster cable (Fibre) Wireless is limited in a similar way and clever tweaking will improve it but there is no faster cable....
Licensing was introduced in 1870 and tightened in 1903 Registration was introduced in 1920 Banning of private ownership of automatic weapons was 1937 Shotguns (the only exception to the above) had to be registered in 1967 Further restrictions were introduced in 1987 mainly on shotguns The final act (so far) was the 1997 act which almost completely banned guns from private ownership
What this means is that anyone carrying a firearm of any kind in the UK is either Police, Army or will be arrested Makes it really simple to know who the criminals are....
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Until your best friend emails you from his other account and goes to the lowest priority part of the inbox
Until your new customer emails you for the first time and you don't see it....
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia - not a paper encyclopedia but still and encyclopedia ....
...
... go to the primary source ....
An encyclopedia is NOT a primary source! It is a secondary source and can be sited/quoted as such and yes encyclopedias can cite and quote each other, the only problem with this is if they start doing this in a circular fashion with no primary source.
Quoting from an encyclopedia is fine
Citing an encyclopedia is lazy (not really wrong but lazy)
You would quote an encyclopedia as a primary source ...?
....
an Encyclopedia by definition contains no original research it only has an explanation or summary of other works and has references to those works so you can use those as primary sources, the problem here is not plagiarised material but using the primary source not a secondary source?
Wikipedia is full of plagiarised material, but it does not charge for it, is at least attempting to stop it?, and it is well known that this is the case.
Even if the wikipedia article is not the original source then Wiley would have to prove that, by finding where it came from and paying them for the plagiarism, the point here is not weather wikipedia has been plagiarised but that Wiley has published a book with plagiarised work in it
For your information Wikiepdia is an encyclopedia by definition, unless you want to dismiss it on a technicality? You may not agree with the way it is run, or it's contents, but the information on it is as useful as from a traditional encyclopedia, (I would trust the contents of wikipedia in a well written article as much as an article in Britannica i.e I would expect both to have mistakes)
Conscription produces three things
1. Martyrs that have been killed while doing service
2. Lots of people trained to kill
3. A military with two types of people professionals and a sub-class of conscripts who mostly do make-work
I know the USA already seems to have lots of the second but at least they are mostly amateurs?
Freedom for business - Like Standard Oil or Microsoft means a monopoly that sells for the highest the market will bear, government intervention should be limited in this case to preventing monopolies so competition drives down prices
...
This seems to be all about local government selling exclusive contracts so forming a local monopoly, thus the price and quality of service has no competition, a higher layer of government needs to regulate this to stimulate competition so the local provider has a reason to provide a decent service at a reasonable price
The difference is that Wikipedia does not charge me to read the plagarised text or claim that any of it is original work (it's an encyclopedia, not a primary source)
Wiley are charging people for the book and claiming that it is a totally original work when all they would have needed to do is attribute the short piece of text to Wikipedia and all would have been well?
It looks like either they are lazy (couldn't be bothered to attribute) or sloppy (didn't bother to check their researchers sources) either of which does not do good to their reputation...
I have always like what Michael Faraday said when the Britsh Prime Minister William Gladstone asked what the practical value of electricity was, he replied "One day sir, you may tax it."
The impact was in 1908 - First expedition to investigate was in 1927 - no crater found
The epicentre was marked by a group of trees still standing upright, their branches and bark stripped off, and all the trees around them blown over away from this point, what is now known to be the classic signs of an air-blast
The Lake was known about and recorded before the event, is much older than the event, and is not an impact crater!
Note this study was done by Marine Geologists who are obviously familiar with the lasting effects of air-blasts and terrestrial impact craters?
Old news ... and wrong
....?
Lake Cheko is in the wrong place (8km from the epicentre), the wrong shape (not an impact crater), and at least 5000 years old (by the layers of mud accumulated on the lake bed, and an air-burst 3-6 miles up would not leave an impact crater
Make that 3.1m Bridge...!
Lego is self plural .... Like Sheep, it English not corporate (actually it's Danish "leg godt" Play Well)
... the same as you do saying Legos/Leggoes
.....
One Sheep
Two Sheep
Three Sheep
One Lego
Two Lego
Three Lego
You sound like a fool saying Sheeps/Sheepsies
If you want to you can say One Lego Brick, Two Lego Bricks
This is what is wrong with the patent system in the US - In the UK (at the moment, mostly...) you cannot patent a thing only a process, so you cannot patent your product only your method of making it, in the same way you cannot patent a drug only your method of making that drug, you cannot patent a gene only your method of creating or isolating that gene, and if we had software patents (which we thankfully don't) you would only be able to patent the process of writing software not software itself (you could patent a RAD system now, but not the software that implements that process)
In the US the patent system is broken since it allows the patenting of things not methods, this really extends copywrite rather than being a separate process?
Patent your method
Copywrite your original idea
Trademark your logo/name
The British use metric more than 'merkins, we have it as a standard (except for a few exceptions, hey we're British...)
In what other country can you buy a litre of petrol, drive a mile down the road at 30mph, under a 1.3m high bridge to buy a pint?
That's why P2P traffic is throttled, and there are usage caps (even on "unlimited" accounts)
what most people want is fast for a short while then nothing for most of the rest of the time
The exception is P2P traffic (at the moment) but soon the revenue stream will also be in Streaming video (movies on demand) then they will find the bandwidth (or someone else will...)
If the OS is working properly then you should not be aware of it's existence?
... But you can run an XWindows app on a 286 and it can be fast if it's a small app and you don't load all the desktop cruft you get with distros, and all the services that are loaded as standard
.. desktop could consist of three buttons (email, web, Write?) preconfigured for the hardware you actually have, no extra programs/services, would fit in a tiny footprint, and if its on ROM is totally immune from viruses and malware
Windows has sold us on the GUI is the OS - It isn't
Linux has the right idea - Linux is a kernel... that apps like XWindows, KDE etc.. can run on
A pared down disto (Like DamnSmallLinux) shows what can be done but this can be taken even further
Use fibre-optics ... Distance no (major) problem, bandwidth no problem
...?
Makes copper DSL look like a joke
The only reason DSL was invented at all was because the telcos had so much invested in existing copper technology and did not want the expense of upgrading all the end users
In the UK the cable companies (or Virgin Media as they seem to all be now!) do not seem to be using their advantage? ADSL is limited to 20Mbps (theoretically if you live *in* the exchange) this will extend that to 100Mbps? But some cable modems already run at 160Mbps but are not supported by any of the cable companies in the UK (Virgin Media max is 20 Mbit/s but at least this is a real 20Mbit/s and not the theoretical of ADSL)?
The point is that films are published, sold and listed so are citable, webcomics are put up on a website, and unless mentioned elsewhere are, by Wikipedia's (or any other encylopedia's) standards not notable (since they have not been mentioned in published media)
This is not as arbitary as you think - an encyclopedia is not a primary source it needs to reference other sources and these cannot be blogs or similar since they cannot be regarded as reliable?
A WebComic that is number 1 in some list is still not notable unless it has been mentioned in popular culture and in published media, this can be biased against some internet only items, it does act as a filter for fanboy ego trips. If your webcomic is that popular why hasn't it been mentioned outside the internet? Why does it not get referenced in newspapers? Why does it not get awards? Perhaps it is not as popular and widely known as you think?
I have heard of X-Men .... but my point still stands, before this I had heard of X-Men, Juggernaut, and many characters from many Comics and Films, but had never heard of this, so why is it notable?
It was an internet meme and was famous on the internet but not outside it, until it was mentioned on MTV (note all other cites on the article (that exists again) are for blogs or websites) the mention in an interview for MTV is the only cite that is from a reliable source in Wikipedia's terms and is probably the only reason the article has not been deleted.
Wikipedia has a problem with internet meme's and web-only events in that they leave no paper trail unless they become so large that they seep into popular culture outside the internet (as this did), but if it allowed cites from "unreliable" sources then it would be chaos since it is relatively easy to pollute the internet with citable material (Wikipedia itself does this, since much of its text is copied by many other websites, a lie on Wikipedia if not spotted becomes a fact on multiple websites fairly quickly...)
...and the main compliant was that they were writing essays not articles (writing style was arguing a point of view, rather than stating the facts) and that they did not cite sources (or did not cite properly) i.e. they acted as new editors have always acted in Wikipedia. It was only noticed because they did it on mass from similarly named accounts and so were suspected as being one person... The Professor was contacted and apologised, and said he would prepare the students better next time by including giving them some of the Wikipedia editing guides, but said "My experience though is that no matter how often you explain matters of style and substance, students will do what students do"
Two things - .... I have heard of a lot of the characters in Final Fantasy and Star Wars? I suspect it is not very notable .....?
....This is a problem!
1 : Never heard of the "Juggernaut Bitch" video, don't know which movie you are referring to
2 : the notability standards are biased against web only things (like webcomics) since it will only accept citations from print sources or news sources, so unless it has gained visibility to the news media, or won an award it is not likely to meet the notability criteria even if it is notable on the web
Microsoft would not bother european based companies, europe does not have software patents, they might sue a european based company that sells into the US in the US courts?
...), or are "obvious" and so should not have been granted, have prior art and so would be overturned, or (if known) could be simply worked around, Microsoft would probably lose the case and a lot of patents and the Linux market would carry on as though nothing had happened, individual companies however could be damaged unless a group of them got together (including IBM) and counter-sued.
.. say Linux infringes our IP and give no details..Sign patent protection deals to bolster their case if it ever comes to court. If they has a strong case their best tactic would be to sue the Linux vendors one by one.
Microsoft has been asked repeatedly to "Show us the Patents" and back up their claims, but they have not, if they had a case they would have sued, they have in the past, so they obviously do not have a strong case... It is suspected that the patents they are referring to, either do not cover just Linux (OpenOffice, Apache, MySQL etc
Microsoft's best tactic if the patents are weak is to do what they are doing
The problem is they have a court case the shows the IP is not used elsewhere, and does not appear to give any special advantage. The case also showed they do not own Unix (not even the name) and so what do they have to sell? It seems they just have (a rather tainted) version of unix that does not have any special features and is not widely used....?
... not the kind of company that is very saleable
They do however have large debts and a very suspect reputation
Wireless will NEVER be faster than a physical connection - it's just cheaper and more convenient.
....
.. use faster cable (Fibre)
DSL is currently maxed at 24Mbit/s
802.16e is rated at 70Mbps
Fibre runs at least 10Gbit/s already
Copper is never going to be much faster this is just cleaver tweaking
Wireless is limited in a similar way and clever tweaking will improve it but there is no faster cable....
UK gun laws are a little older than you think
....
Licensing was introduced in 1870 and tightened in 1903
Registration was introduced in 1920
Banning of private ownership of automatic weapons was 1937
Shotguns (the only exception to the above) had to be registered in 1967
Further restrictions were introduced in 1987 mainly on shotguns
The final act (so far) was the 1997 act which almost completely banned guns from private ownership
What this means is that anyone carrying a firearm of any kind in the UK is either Police, Army or will be arrested
Makes it really simple to know who the criminals are
RTFA - It says they make money from Live performances .... they treat the copying of CD's as advertising, and they do make money at this ...
....
It's only we in the First world that pay to advertise a product