This whole thread is absurd, as are all the people jumping on the "bash MS" bandwagon.
* Microsoft will continue to support 8.1, and everyone here KNOWS that.
* Everyone knows that because Microsoft has a bigger problem with having to support old platforms than any other vendor out there. Many posters here generally know this, too, but are being obtuse so that they can harp about Microsoft ending support for a new platform (which isnt even remotely believable).
* The author of the blog even knows that! The Microsoft technet entry says almost the opposite of what the blogger does-- that 8.1 WILL recieve updates. All he got right is that you do need to install a prereq to get them, like we've seen with countless other OSes. The venerable XP does this, too.
* Half the people gloating over the "bugginess of Windows" are fans of an OS that is experiencing one of the biggest internet vulnerabilties in about a decade in its SSL stack, but thats OK in their eyes somehow because its not packaged with the OS and therefore theyre allowed to be buggy.
* Some people are taking the time to smirk about the confusing version numbering of Win8-- which is doubly hillarious given how ridiculous Linux's versioning was until about a year ago.
* And if I had to guess, the aforementioned problems could possibly be related to the aforementioned heartbleed bug, as we dont know what all was leaked and Microsoft is almost certainly not going to want to go into it.
Going off on the Windows OS codebase and license in a heartbleed discussion? No personal vendetta detected here, no sir.
Seriously, a discussion on how FOSS dropped the ball so seriously that private keys are being disclosed is not the time to bring up complaints about Windows.
Its not, because some of the areas on the lawn are only hit during the turn-around. And with a circular pattern, you will HAVE to travel over-top of already-done areas in order to hit the corners of the circular path.
Trying to use a circular path to fill in a rectangular area will by necessity involve hitting areas more than once, or going outside of the rectangle.
Causation pertains to elements that cause a thing or event to occur while correlation pertains to elements that occur at the same time but had no part in causing that series of events.
Thats not correct. Correlation is a prerequisite for causation, but it is not indicative. That is: all things that are causally linked are correlated, but not all events that are correlated are necessarily causally linked.
I always tell my wife that dropping a thermonuclear warhead on her hometown would raise Germany's average IQ by 2 points.
It always gives me chills when someone jokes about something like this: Someone out there (probably lots of someones) thinks that would be a great thing to do for the betterment of humanity. Theres probably a number of them here on slashdot, even.
Im not clear how it could be "more efficient". Your average speed will be higher on the straight-aways, and no matter what shape you do you will have to mow the entire area of your lawn. How you fill it in doesnt change the amount needing to be done.
At my (and Im sure, a LOT of) workplace, there are a few authorized Linux distros. RedHat is one. Redhat fixes require a subscription, and are under the same sort of product life structure that Microsoft is.
When you're dealing with a large organization, getting the patches for free is 1/100th of the issue. The issue is A) who supports it B) are the patches kept up to date C) are they QA'd (can we be confident they wont break stuff)
If you think Linux patches dont break things, you just dont operate in a large scale environment. If you think Mint is in the same ballpark as RedHat, you're in a different world.
It is my understanding that the "obsolete" version of Linux are still working very, very well, with few vulnerabilities
You are suffering from confirmation bias. This is just not true.
http://www.cvedetails.com/vuln... There are pages of medium and high priority vulnerabilties on that page. If you lump in the browser-- which would have to be a really ancient version of firefox or konqueror-- that number would skyrocket. You would have to be out of your mind to place a 2.4 server on the web or even to use it as a desktop web-browsing box.
Theyre doing what everyone else does with EOL'd products. The only reason this is newsworthy is because the submitter knows that slashdot loves to harp on microsoft on anything, real or imaginary.
Thats how RHEL does it-- RHEL 5 (released in 2007) goes out of support in 2020. Apple doesnt provide support nearly that long for OSX-- they EOL'd Snow Leopard (2009) in 2013, so they have approximately 1/3 the product lifespan that MS or RH does.
Based on your other comments, though, you really just have a personal axe to grind against anything Microsoft for no real (that I can discern) reason.
y as Hurricane Katrina came ashore in New Orleans and her brothers and sisters were fighting for their lives
That people would write this sort of thing and then remark on racism-- ever-- boggles my mind. You dont think it discourages integration when people act as if black people are brothers to black people, but not white folks?
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This whole thread is absurd, as are all the people jumping on the "bash MS" bandwagon.
* Microsoft will continue to support 8.1, and everyone here KNOWS that.
* Everyone knows that because Microsoft has a bigger problem with having to support old platforms than any other vendor out there. Many posters here generally know this, too, but are being obtuse so that they can harp about Microsoft ending support for a new platform (which isnt even remotely believable).
* The author of the blog even knows that! The Microsoft technet entry says almost the opposite of what the blogger does-- that 8.1 WILL recieve updates. All he got right is that you do need to install a prereq to get them, like we've seen with countless other OSes. The venerable XP does this, too.
* Half the people gloating over the "bugginess of Windows" are fans of an OS that is experiencing one of the biggest internet vulnerabilties in about a decade in its SSL stack, but thats OK in their eyes somehow because its not packaged with the OS and therefore theyre allowed to be buggy.
* Some people are taking the time to smirk about the confusing version numbering of Win8-- which is doubly hillarious given how ridiculous Linux's versioning was until about a year ago.
* And if I had to guess, the aforementioned problems could possibly be related to the aforementioned heartbleed bug, as we dont know what all was leaked and Microsoft is almost certainly not going to want to go into it.
But yea, dont let that stop the fun.
They should have gone with something more meaningful, like 8.6.31-11, and perhaps 8.4.x for the old version of the OS.
How long did it take Ubuntu 12.10 to fix their "installing this OS bricks E1000 adapters" bug?
Anyone claiming Linux doesnt have these sorts of issues is full of shit.
Going off on the Windows OS codebase and license in a heartbleed discussion? No personal vendetta detected here, no sir.
Seriously, a discussion on how FOSS dropped the ball so seriously that private keys are being disclosed is not the time to bring up complaints about Windows.
Its not, because some of the areas on the lawn are only hit during the turn-around. And with a circular pattern, you will HAVE to travel over-top of already-done areas in order to hit the corners of the circular path.
Trying to use a circular path to fill in a rectangular area will by necessity involve hitting areas more than once, or going outside of the rectangle.
Causation pertains to elements that cause a thing or event to occur while correlation pertains to elements that occur at the same time but had no part in causing that series of events.
Thats not correct. Correlation is a prerequisite for causation, but it is not indicative. That is: all things that are causally linked are correlated, but not all events that are correlated are necessarily causally linked.
I always tell my wife that dropping a thermonuclear warhead on her hometown would raise Germany's average IQ by 2 points.
It always gives me chills when someone jokes about something like this: Someone out there (probably lots of someones) thinks that would be a great thing to do for the betterment of humanity. Theres probably a number of them here on slashdot, even.
Im pretty sure that
A) he did name those subcultures
B) you know exactly what hes talking about
C) you didnt read his post all the way through.
Because it can massively slow down access to SSL sites.
I think the technical term for his post is "troll". That is, you've been trolled.
How do you know its your bank's public key and not someone elses?
Thats the ENTIRE problem that CAs attempt to solve.
CAs dont control whether a cert can still be used. The client configuration does that.
IIS is not. It uses schannel, not OpenSSL.
Im not clear how it could be "more efficient". Your average speed will be higher on the straight-aways, and no matter what shape you do you will have to mow the entire area of your lawn. How you fill it in doesnt change the amount needing to be done.
You are just not correct.
At my (and Im sure, a LOT of) workplace, there are a few authorized Linux distros. RedHat is one. Redhat fixes require a subscription, and are under the same sort of product life structure that Microsoft is.
When you're dealing with a large organization, getting the patches for free is 1/100th of the issue. The issue is
A) who supports it
B) are the patches kept up to date
C) are they QA'd (can we be confident they wont break stuff)
If you think Linux patches dont break things, you just dont operate in a large scale environment. If you think Mint is in the same ballpark as RedHat, you're in a different world.
It is my understanding that the "obsolete" version of Linux are still working very, very well, with few vulnerabilities
You are suffering from confirmation bias. This is just not true.
http://www.cvedetails.com/vuln...
There are pages of medium and high priority vulnerabilties on that page. If you lump in the browser-- which would have to be a really ancient version of firefox or konqueror-- that number would skyrocket. You would have to be out of your mind to place a 2.4 server on the web or even to use it as a desktop web-browsing box.
Youre using the term obsolete ambiguously. What exactly do you mean? Linux 2.4 and RHEL 3 are both very much "obsolete".
Did you have a real business reason for wanting linux, or are you just pushing an agenda for ideological reasons?
Theyre doing what everyone else does with EOL'd products. The only reason this is newsworthy is because the submitter knows that slashdot loves to harp on microsoft on anything, real or imaginary.
Find me another OS vendor that provides support for longer than 13 years. RedHat JUST started doing it; Apple is 1/3 that long.
If "industry leading product support timeline" counts as abusive in your book, then I guess Im not clear what you mean by abusive.
Thats how RHEL does it-- RHEL 5 (released in 2007) goes out of support in 2020. Apple doesnt provide support nearly that long for OSX-- they EOL'd Snow Leopard (2009) in 2013, so they have approximately 1/3 the product lifespan that MS or RH does.
Based on your other comments, though, you really just have a personal axe to grind against anything Microsoft for no real (that I can discern) reason.
If we're making fun of 14 year old operating systems, is it OK if I start on about how screwed up Linux 2.2 and OSX 10.1 are?
Do you have any idea how many security patches have been issued since the release of Linux Kernel 2.4? Because 2.4 came out right about when XP did.
y as Hurricane Katrina came ashore in New Orleans and her brothers and sisters were fighting for their lives
That people would write this sort of thing and then remark on racism-- ever-- boggles my mind. You dont think it discourages integration when people act as if black people are brothers to black people, but not white folks?
No shit, when your complaint is that Obama's a Kenyan Marxo-Islamic Fascist Communist, that's going to happen.
That is a fringe opinion, akin to me calling all democrats Nazis.
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