"Meanwhile, it seems that all Linux distros shipping today have an audio bug [launchpad.net] that doesn't have a known fix" That is the old, single channel audio system called Alsa. Upgrading to PulseAudio fixes the problem. PulseAudio had been the default sound system in many user-friendly types of distros.
"What's that supposed to mean?" Watch this to get an understanding of the tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2RwYF8-oZE It means: No static desktops. After years of zero innovation on the desktop, KDE4 aims to evolve the concept of the desktop entirely.
"Speaking of VS - it's not perfect, but I dare say it's not for a Linux desktop user to boast of good C++ IDEs" I don't want one. But if you want a good IDE then Code::blocks may work for you, or the KDevelop IDE.
"You'll have to explain the "miles" first, I'm afraid." KDE 4.3 is far ahead of any desktop offering out there. What Aqua was to the Windows XP user interface, is KDE 4.3 to Aqua now. Kubuntu 9.10 for example does not only have ALL the features Mac OS X offers, but lots more.
The latest WWDC in which Apple was so proud to have almost all apps ported to 64bit? Like WTF? Linux had that years before Apple. Quicktime X, all full HD stuff. Cool but VLC had that years ago. File systems? Are you kidding me? Linux has a lot of them, but Mac OS X 10.6 and Windows 7 file systems are not only not even journaling, but none of these are optimized for SSD drives. And let's not even start about fragmentation. Linux file systems only fragment when your hard drive is filled for more than 80%.
Time Machine has a cool front-end for backups, but backup solutions have been in Kubuntu even before Apple ever had a backup solution.
Now let's look at Gallium3D. Once the early bugs are sorted out and state trackers are complete, Linux will not only get ahead with graphics drivers, but also with hardware acceleration from HD video and scalable vector graphics, to OpenCL, OpenGL and even Direct3D! The possibilities are endless...
Safari? You know where Webkit comes from? The KDE Konqueror browser. Yes! The terminal and compiler? Gnu tools. Their base OS? FreeBSD was used as a starting point. It is not all FreeBSD, but a large part is.
iTunes. AmaroK not only has all of these features, it has even more.
iMovie. Completely blown away by Kdenlive.
Finder. Dolphin is way beyonbd Finder.
And so forth and so forth and so forth... Linux may not be marketed as much as Mac OS and Windows and it might be able to run apps that are not compiled for it, but for what it is and what it has to offer, it far exceeds Mac OS and Windows as an OS.
So everbody keeps saying... I didn't have any crashes since 4.3 anymore. I did have a lot of Ubuntu desktops crash with Compiz.
Plasma used to crash on me. Dolphin however never did. Not even when I was using the 4.0 version.
Maybe the problem lies somewhere else? I know that SuSE for one includes many pre-release KDE4 code. Kubuntu used to crash every once in a while, but with a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.10 these problems are a thing of the past now. Mandrake also includes pre-release code. Debian? Never tried that...
It's actually kind of funny how many countless tons of shit I had to go through with Windows computers to get the sound working.
Your statement may have been true a few years ago, but not anymore. Ever since the driver certifications I had sound cards not working in XP SP2 and above anymore. I actually had to run Linux to get my soundcard to work again.
Linux keeps evolving. Anti-Linux trolls will always be around. The same goes for people who are uninformed.
I am glad that I have a post-Windows 7 and Mac OS X 10.6 user interface, more stability, higher quality, easyer and more powerfull software and an OS that let's me compile a piece of software with a single command, instead of having to learn that piece of shit called Visual Studio.
All of you out there, go ahead. Use what ever you want. But please don't bash an OS that is light-years ahead of Windows, and miles ahead of Mac OS.
"provides better application integration" The exact opposite. Even GTK apps look like the default QT apps in KDE4. On the integration side: KDE4 is developed in such a way that every piece of data is centralised. Everything from widgets to apps that display time? They all call the one thing that monitors that. You update your agenda? Suddenly all apps know that and display that. You play a song in VLC or AmaroK or whatever? The widget on your desktop knows what you play, displays it and even has buttons like pauze, play, etc.
"Besides this, it uses a lot less memory." See my previous statement: all kinds of data that is alike will only be stored once and executed once for all the apps that use the data.
Try out KDE 4.3. Seriously, do it. It absolutely blows away KDE 3.5.x in any way!
What version of Windows do you have? "Ewr I don't know". What desktop environment do you have? "Ewr I don't know".
*At this time you ask user for visual hints so can figure it out yourself.* *At this time you ask user for visual hints so can figure it out yourself.*
*After figuring it out, you have to know for each Windows version where the option is located* *After figuring it out, you have to know for each desktop environment where the option is located*
At this point in time I don't know what to believe anymore. The official story makes just as much sence to me as the conspiracy theories being thrown around the web.
All I know is that nothing makes sence with that 9/11 stuff...
"If you're getting bullied in real life, you have to try to run away and get help immediately before your attackers catch up with you and continue the beating."
No. If you are bullied in real life you have to either do something about yourself to correct the abnormalness or, if there's nothing wrong with you, kick their asses.
One way or another; life is about survival. It still is...
Goaway: Hello V!NCENT's computer, I'd like to- Policykit: Fsck you! Goaway: Ok but then I'd go through the backdoo- Firewall: All closed... Goaway: But then I will just- V!NCENT: Not gonna click on it...
How about, I don't know, making sure you just can't automagically execute shellcode and make sure that there's at least nothing skippabble, and if so, return an error?
For fsck sake... If anything. This type of exploit doesn't even work on modern Ubuntu, unless you are a complete fscking tetard.
There is an endless amount of axioms, so nothing can ever be realy proven, but finding out that some things do not appear to be wrong, by actually testing a theory, isn't so bad for a change. At least not at this level.
But then again we can generalize everything into oblivion...
What I love so much about the LHC is that despite all these theories about everything, one may actually get to become proven. Not only that, but we are now kind of like (please do not take this too literaly) reverse enginering our own 'Matrix' so to speak at a level of what, for now at least, seems to be the building blocks, the very foundation, of 'it'*
*Disclaimer: Yeah, yeah... bla bla... Universe, multiverse, whatever...
#2: Everybody starts out as a newb. "News For Nerds, Stuff That Matters" is more of a scare for popular people. I am sure that when people read this, only the nerds and geeks feel like they belong here so only 'the right group of people' will continue to visit/. regularly. Maybe one day they will even become kernel developers... The attitude of your post, don't take this personal;), discourages learning.
#3: I left Digg for the same three reasons that you have just posted above. Not because I disliked the fact that it became popular but because it turned from geeky news to soccermom news...
At first, everybody is predicting:" OMG Linux will own the desktop! We need KDE 4.x and Gnome 3.x and it is all going to even let your mom operate her computer much easyer than the shitty last incarnation from Microhell!" Etc, etc.
Then when Linux actually gains marketshare, people start to complain. "Oh noes! Not all Linux users are kernel devs anymore! OMGz0rs! When did people forget to man or infor this or that and why do people get so dumb that they can't even convert high level code to assembly and turn it to 1's and 0's with their bare hand, using an assembler! OmG it get's populair!"
Well duh, elitist prick. When you drive your car to a garage because you can't replace your engine yourself, the guy who does that for you won't be complaining about that fact that you cannot do that yourself. "Hey why don't you read the manual on how to replace your backseat yourself! How can people be so stupid that they cannot even replace their own chairs?!"
With Chromium, the userspace is mostly the web, from a philosophical point of view. Technically it's a webbrowser app in userspace directly on top of Linux and a WM which is also directly on top of the Linux kernel.
Slashdot Mirror
Oh and BTW... Grand Central Dispatch? KDE Phonon... 'nuff said...
"Meanwhile, it seems that all Linux distros shipping today have an audio bug [launchpad.net] that doesn't have a known fix"
That is the old, single channel audio system called Alsa. Upgrading to PulseAudio fixes the problem. PulseAudio had been the default sound system in many user-friendly types of distros.
"What's that supposed to mean?"
Watch this to get an understanding of the tech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2RwYF8-oZE
It means: No static desktops. After years of zero innovation on the desktop, KDE4 aims to evolve the concept of the desktop entirely.
"Speaking of VS - it's not perfect, but I dare say it's not for a Linux desktop user to boast of good C++ IDEs"
I don't want one. But if you want a good IDE then Code::blocks may work for you, or the KDevelop IDE.
"You'll have to explain the "miles" first, I'm afraid."
KDE 4.3 is far ahead of any desktop offering out there. What Aqua was to the Windows XP user interface, is KDE 4.3 to Aqua now. Kubuntu 9.10 for example does not only have ALL the features Mac OS X offers, but lots more.
The latest WWDC in which Apple was so proud to have almost all apps ported to 64bit? Like WTF? Linux had that years before Apple. Quicktime X, all full HD stuff. Cool but VLC had that years ago. File systems? Are you kidding me? Linux has a lot of them, but Mac OS X 10.6 and Windows 7 file systems are not only not even journaling, but none of these are optimized for SSD drives. And let's not even start about fragmentation. Linux file systems only fragment when your hard drive is filled for more than 80%.
Time Machine has a cool front-end for backups, but backup solutions have been in Kubuntu even before Apple ever had a backup solution.
Now let's look at Gallium3D. Once the early bugs are sorted out and state trackers are complete, Linux will not only get ahead with graphics drivers, but also with hardware acceleration from HD video and scalable vector graphics, to OpenCL, OpenGL and even Direct3D! The possibilities are endless...
Safari? You know where Webkit comes from? The KDE Konqueror browser. Yes! The terminal and compiler? Gnu tools. Their base OS? FreeBSD was used as a starting point. It is not all FreeBSD, but a large part is.
iTunes. AmaroK not only has all of these features, it has even more.
iMovie. Completely blown away by Kdenlive.
Finder. Dolphin is way beyonbd Finder.
And so forth and so forth and so forth... Linux may not be marketed as much as Mac OS and Windows and it might be able to run apps that are not compiled for it, but for what it is and what it has to offer, it far exceeds Mac OS and Windows as an OS.
So everbody keeps saying... I didn't have any crashes since 4.3 anymore. I did have a lot of Ubuntu desktops crash with Compiz.
Plasma used to crash on me. Dolphin however never did. Not even when I was using the 4.0 version.
Maybe the problem lies somewhere else? I know that SuSE for one includes many pre-release KDE4 code. Kubuntu used to crash every once in a while, but with a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.10 these problems are a thing of the past now. Mandrake also includes pre-release code. Debian? Never tried that...
Mandriva = KDE4
Ubuntu = Gnome 2.2x
Fedora = KDE4 & Gnome 2.2x
SuSE = KDE4 & Gnome 2.2x & XFCE 4.x
Gnome 2.2x = Settings/Preference/Screen resolution
KDE4 = Kicker/System settings/Monitor
XFCE = right-click on the desktop/control panel
No ofcourse I know that he hasn't you idiot. It is meant for shutting retards the hell up.
Whooooooooooooooshhhhh.....
Yes.
It's actually kind of funny how many countless tons of shit I had to go through with Windows computers to get the sound working.
Your statement may have been true a few years ago, but not anymore. Ever since the driver certifications I had sound cards not working in XP SP2 and above anymore. I actually had to run Linux to get my soundcard to work again.
Linux keeps evolving. Anti-Linux trolls will always be around. The same goes for people who are uninformed.
I am glad that I have a post-Windows 7 and Mac OS X 10.6 user interface, more stability, higher quality, easyer and more powerfull software and an OS that let's me compile a piece of software with a single command, instead of having to learn that piece of shit called Visual Studio.
All of you out there, go ahead. Use what ever you want. But please don't bash an OS that is light-years ahead of Windows, and miles ahead of Mac OS.
"Gnome is more stable" not anymore.
"has a better feature set" not anymore.
"provides better application integration" The exact opposite. Even GTK apps look like the default QT apps in KDE4. On the integration side: KDE4 is developed in such a way that every piece of data is centralised. Everything from widgets to apps that display time? They all call the one thing that monitors that. You update your agenda? Suddenly all apps know that and display that. You play a song in VLC or AmaroK or whatever? The widget on your desktop knows what you play, displays it and even has buttons like pauze, play, etc.
"Besides this, it uses a lot less memory." See my previous statement: all kinds of data that is alike will only be stored once and executed once for all the apps that use the data.
Try out KDE 4.3. Seriously, do it. It absolutely blows away KDE 3.5.x in any way!
What version of Windows do you have? "Ewr I don't know".
What desktop environment do you have? "Ewr I don't know".
*At this time you ask user for visual hints so can figure it out yourself.*
*At this time you ask user for visual hints so can figure it out yourself.*
*After figuring it out, you have to know for each Windows version where the option is located*
*After figuring it out, you have to know for each desktop environment where the option is located*
You got any court-grade evidence for this?
At this point in time I don't know what to believe anymore. The official story makes just as much sence to me as the conspiracy theories being thrown around the web.
All I know is that nothing makes sence with that 9/11 stuff...
And even there it changes. Dual SIM card phones and a private GSM networks are replacing it.
Just as long as one side of the equation is 42...
Remote code execution maybe?
"If you're getting bullied in real life, you have to try to run away and get help immediately before your attackers catch up with you and continue the beating."
No. If you are bullied in real life you have to either do something about yourself to correct the abnormalness or, if there's nothing wrong with you, kick their asses.
One way or another; life is about survival. It still is...
Goaway: Hello V!NCENT's computer, I'd like to-
Policykit: Fsck you!
Goaway: Ok but then I'd go through the backdoo-
Firewall: All closed...
Goaway: But then I will just-
V!NCENT: Not gonna click on it...
And then you say?
How about, I don't know, making sure you just can't automagically execute shellcode and make sure that there's at least nothing skippabble, and if so, return an error?
For fsck sake... If anything. This type of exploit doesn't even work on modern Ubuntu, unless you are a complete fscking tetard.
PEBKAC.
There is an endless amount of axioms, so nothing can ever be realy proven, but finding out that some things do not appear to be wrong, by actually testing a theory, isn't so bad for a change. At least not at this level.
But then again we can generalize everything into oblivion...
What I love so much about the LHC is that despite all these theories about everything, one may actually get to become proven. Not only that, but we are now kind of like (please do not take this too literaly) reverse enginering our own 'Matrix' so to speak at a level of what, for now at least, seems to be the building blocks, the very foundation, of 'it'*
*Disclaimer: Yeah, yeah... bla bla... Universe, multiverse, whatever...
Whenever, if, we find out the universe starts to inflate or something?
"Repairing cars requires specialized knowledge."
-"They are a bunch of people who lack any comp sci education whatsoever, unlike the Slashdot of old"
So at computer science you learn nothing? At least no specialized knowledge? Really? Ok...
Ah so you want the web to support C instead and have everything precompiled so you can only view websites with an x86 CPU.
I am sure that's good for the web...
#2: Everybody starts out as a newb. "News For Nerds, Stuff That Matters" is more of a scare for popular people. I am sure that when people read this, only the nerds and geeks feel like they belong here so only 'the right group of people' will continue to visit /. regularly. Maybe one day they will even become kernel developers... The attitude of your post, don't take this personal ;), discourages learning.
#3: I left Digg for the same three reasons that you have just posted above. Not because I disliked the fact that it became popular but because it turned from geeky news to soccermom news...
At first, everybody is predicting:" OMG Linux will own the desktop! We need KDE 4.x and Gnome 3.x and it is all going to even let your mom operate her computer much easyer than the shitty last incarnation from Microhell!" Etc, etc.
Then when Linux actually gains marketshare, people start to complain. "Oh noes! Not all Linux users are kernel devs anymore! OMGz0rs! When did people forget to man or infor this or that and why do people get so dumb that they can't even convert high level code to assembly and turn it to 1's and 0's with their bare hand, using an assembler! OmG it get's populair!"
Well duh, elitist prick. When you drive your car to a garage because you can't replace your engine yourself, the guy who does that for you won't be complaining about that fact that you cannot do that yourself. "Hey why don't you read the manual on how to replace your backseat yourself! How can people be so stupid that they cannot even replace their own chairs?!"
With Chromium, the userspace is mostly the web, from a philosophical point of view. Technically it's a webbrowser app in userspace directly on top of Linux and a WM which is also directly on top of the Linux kernel.