We're just adding another tax that makes it even more expensive to do business. Yup, gas pump prices are very bad, but adding another tax that increases transportation costs isn't going to reduce gas prices. It just makes the situation worse. It's as if gas prices aren't killing our economy fast enough, so the government want to make transporation costs even greater.
Any logic that attempts to justify new transportation taxes because gas prices are extremely high is flat out retarded. As far as I'm concerned it's insane.
Anyone who thinks a mileage tax will replace a gas tax is only kidding themselves. This will be an additional tax. It's a another way to create a source of revenue for a government gone mad with spending.
Do you have a clue as to how this will hurt service businesses such as plumbers and HVAC service people? I did HVAC service for decades, and a mileage tax would raise the costs of having your furnace or A/C repaired or serviced, or a leaky faucet fixed or drain unplugged by several dollars per visit. It will also raise the cost of having an appliance fixed, having your carpets cleaned, your lawn mowed, etc.... Any type of mobile service business will be hit hard, as will the consumer. What you pay for your own mileage is just the tip of the iceberg as to how much money the implementation of this idea will suck out of the economy.
I used to drive well in excess of 100 miles a day as an HVAC service tech. I covered communities as many as 75 miles away from the shop. Don't say that new businesses will open in those areas either as the reason they don't have HVAC service businesses there now is there isn't enough population to support the business. Raising the cost of doing business doesn't create more businesses. Never has, never will.
This will also raise the price of food, clothing, computers, etc... as shipping rates will necessarily rise substantially. Anything that must be shipped by truck will rise in price.
This is a terrible idea and it will put a large hit on the economy in general.
But do Ron Rivest, Adi Shamir, and Len Adleman have anything to do with RSA the company nowdays? I know they invented some algorithms which bare the name RSA, but that doesn't mean they have (or ever had) anything to do with the day to day operations of RSA the company.
How do the algorithms created by RSA's founders expose RSA?
Shakes head sadly. What a testament to the decline and fall of western society.
The attitude you display is the reason our country is in economic meltdown. This idea that someone, or some company, can be an unethical douchebag and it's OK with you as long as you can't see how you're directly affected by the unethical behavior is scraping the bottom of ethical bucket. Anyone who holds to that concept displays an amazing lack of ability to reason from cause to effect.
When trust is broken between all entities in a nation the economy of that country collapses. The only way trust endures is through honesty and integrity on the part of the vast majority of that nation's entities whether they be individuals, businesses, banks, or politicians. Yes, there will always be dishonest douchbags, but when they become the largest and most common entities in a nation that nation is on the way to economic and moral ruin.
Well, AC, you almost get it. No government can "give you everything you want". You pay for everything you get from the government, and since government is the most inefficient organization around you pay through the nose for anything you get from it. And, any government big enough to do all of that to you is big enough to control every aspect of your life.
Big government, government that claims to give you things, is the most deceitful and corrupt organization there is. The question is, when will/.ers recognize this fact and begin to understand exactly what's going on? Right now, very few/.ers seem to get it.
Well, with their policies on their own people having children, their average age pretty much has to keep on going up for the foreseeable future. The way it is, for every child there has to be at least two adults. Most likely it's going to be 6 adults per child fairly soon as grandparents on each side of the family will have only 1 grandchild between them. That's 4 grandparents and 2 parents per child, plus any great-grandparents.. The average age is going to rise rapidly.
Ummm.... Truly open-minded people don't close their minds on an issue just because someone on the other side is angry at the moment. People who pretend to be open-minded latch onto any excuse they can find to ignore the other side of an issue and have someone else to blame for their own closed mind. People who are willing to have have honest dialog will even put up with lots of angry rhetoric, and abusive behavior, in the hopes of having an honest dialog when the other person calms down. People unwilling to have an honest dialog will use an angry outburst as an excuse to close off all chance of real communication.
I fail to see the point of your post as the only person you can have an effective dialog with is the truly open-minded person who isn't looking for an excuse to not have an honest dialog. The person looking for an excuse to not have an honest dialog will latch on to any excuse, including the fact that you disagree with them.
Yeah, and look at how many liberals post the same type of comments about conservatives and get modded up as insightful around here?
Thoughtful conservative comments are modded down here regularly because, and I've been told this specifically here on/. when I asked why a post full of provable facts was modded as a troll, those who oppose conservative thought are tired of hearing it even when they know what is said is true. Just what does that have to say about progressives/socialists? Nothing good, imo. They're just proving they are just as biased, just as close-minded, as they claim their political counterpoints are. They certainly aren't proving that they are thoughtful, articulate, open-minded, willing to discuss the issues, and open to changing their mind.
Maybe if we ignore him, he'll go away. This loon is getting far too much attention from the left. I'm even starting to think that it isn't the right keeping him famous. No one of a sound mind could possibly believe any of his incoherent babblings.
Really? How is it that he just plays video, or puts up quotes, from the far left to make his points? There is public documentation for pretty much everything he says. He's also been remarkably astute with his political and economic predictions. He's been correct in the vast majority of his economic and political predictions. He's called crazy for what he predicts, and then a year or so later the majority of politicians and economists are saying the same things he did. Yet he's the only one called crazy for saying those things.
Funny how the far left, like George Soros, take him very seriously. For instance, if all he was doing was lying and making unfounded assertions about Soros, rather than quoting him at length from his books and interviews about his goals, methods and character, Soros would either be laughing at him, or taking him to court. He isn't. He's spending millions of dollars in his attempts to get Beck off the air through character assassination and political pressure because Beck is exposing Soros' mode of operation to the general public, and Soros isn't happy about it.
If you had publicly stated on this site that you weren't going to vote in this next election, I would be far from crazy to predict that you aren't going to vote in this next election. In essence, this is exactly what Beck has been doing, and is being called crazy for doing.
Debian's installer is no more difficult than Ubuntu's. or Windows, although it does give you the option to go into more detail by using the "so-called" expert mode. Today's "expert" mode is pretty much dead simple unless you use something like linux RAID and then it requires you to know RAID. Other than that it doesn't require anywhere near the knowledge the Woody installer did.
It took me 3 tries to install Woody. If the Squeeze installer had been used for Woody installations I would have had a working installation the first time, knowing what I did then..
In almost 8 years of Debian usage I've run into that one time, but it was in testing, not stable, and it required the upgrading of glic so it was dependent on a major system change.
Ummmm.... Goes to show you know very little about Debian. If you want up-to-date software run testing. It has fewer bugs than Ubuntu, and on average has newer software versions. Sure, Ubuntu may add some new packages before Debian does, but comparing package to package, Debian testing is more up-to-date....
I've been running testing or unstable on my workstation and laptop for years and I run into fewer problems in them than I do whenever I have tried Ubuntu. Ubuntu takes a snapshot of Debian unstable and then works on it for 6 months. For the 6 months Debian is moving to newer versions of the software Ubuntu took in the snapshot. Result? Unstable/Sid has newer software in the vast majority of cases.
And this bad? Why? The point of a stable release is to be stable, not to introduce bugs by introducing new software into the system, and possibly major system changes. That can break a lot of stuff, and if you're running a server that's the last thing you need.
You can't just count packages and draw conclusions from counts. Some of the packages haven't been updated in years. Some are only used by like five users on the planet. Some are so buggy they won't even run.
Weigh them by how many people install and use them, and you've got something to talk about, though.
Nope, you sure can't draw conclusions off of package counts alone.
However, a person, such as myself, can use Debian since 2003 and come to the conclusion that the packages, and packaging, in Debian are of high quality. A typical Debian Gnome desktop install takes around 3-4 gigs of hard drive space. My desktop installations, after a year or two, normally take up 12 to 15 gigs due to the number of packages I install. My longest running install--apt-get dist-upgrades from Woody through Etch--had more than 20 gigs of installed software. So, I can say I use a lot of the packages in the Debian repositories and I can't say I find buggy software inside Debian.
I can also come to the conclusion that you're just running at the mouth and have no idea as to what you're talking about. You're just plain old spreading FUD, nothing more or less than that. Seven, going on eight, years of Debian experince allows me to draw that conclusion about your post.
LOL. Seems to me you need to learn to recognize the difference between ffreeloader and nebaz. Nebaz is the funny man. I'm the humorless guy that can still recognize sarcasm....
Trolling? Window update is NOT mandatory. You can choose not to install a specific fix and then it will not prompt you for it in the future. It's not like PS3, where you have to update to play online.
Hmmmm.... Seems you must be unable to recognize sarcasm. And here I thought I was humorless.;)
I agree with you. In Nuatilus you can set it so that any software on removable media cannot be executed, and run something like Rhythmbox upon inserting a music cd. Now, I agree that may be a security hole, but it's also a pretty good option in that no software on the disk can run. It does a lot to stop malware from being executed/installed from the removable media.
It's not like a camp full of Germans in WWII, these guys haven't given up the desire to fight us.
Why would a camp full of Germans in WWII have given up the desire to fight? I don't think that our soldiers invariably turn pacifist on being captured.
Because of two things. One, they realized they were losing the war despite the propoganda the Nazis fed their citizens. Two, most German soldiers, not talking about the SS here, were conscripts who weren't Nazis and didn't agree with the Nazi principles. They fought rather than get shot, and when the fear of getting shot was removed all they wanted to do was ride out the war outside of the battle zone. They weren't ideologues.
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We're just adding another tax that makes it even more expensive to do business. Yup, gas pump prices are very bad, but adding another tax that increases transportation costs isn't going to reduce gas prices. It just makes the situation worse. It's as if gas prices aren't killing our economy fast enough, so the government want to make transporation costs even greater.
Any logic that attempts to justify new transportation taxes because gas prices are extremely high is flat out retarded. As far as I'm concerned it's insane.
Anyone who thinks a mileage tax will replace a gas tax is only kidding themselves. This will be an additional tax. It's a another way to create a source of revenue for a government gone mad with spending.
Do you have a clue as to how this will hurt service businesses such as plumbers and HVAC service people? I did HVAC service for decades, and a mileage tax would raise the costs of having your furnace or A/C repaired or serviced, or a leaky faucet fixed or drain unplugged by several dollars per visit. It will also raise the cost of having an appliance fixed, having your carpets cleaned, your lawn mowed, etc.... Any type of mobile service business will be hit hard, as will the consumer. What you pay for your own mileage is just the tip of the iceberg as to how much money the implementation of this idea will suck out of the economy.
I used to drive well in excess of 100 miles a day as an HVAC service tech. I covered communities as many as 75 miles away from the shop. Don't say that new businesses will open in those areas either as the reason they don't have HVAC service businesses there now is there isn't enough population to support the business. Raising the cost of doing business doesn't create more businesses. Never has, never will.
This will also raise the price of food, clothing, computers, etc... as shipping rates will necessarily rise substantially. Anything that must be shipped by truck will rise in price.
This is a terrible idea and it will put a large hit on the economy in general.
But do Ron Rivest, Adi Shamir, and Len Adleman have anything to do with RSA the company nowdays? I know they invented some algorithms which bare the name RSA, but that doesn't mean they have (or ever had) anything to do with the day to day operations of RSA the company.
How do the algorithms created by RSA's founders expose RSA?
Shakes head sadly. What a testament to the decline and fall of western society.
The attitude you display is the reason our country is in economic meltdown. This idea that someone, or some company, can be an unethical douchebag and it's OK with you as long as you can't see how you're directly affected by the unethical behavior is scraping the bottom of ethical bucket. Anyone who holds to that concept displays an amazing lack of ability to reason from cause to effect.
When trust is broken between all entities in a nation the economy of that country collapses. The only way trust endures is through honesty and integrity on the part of the vast majority of that nation's entities whether they be individuals, businesses, banks, or politicians. Yes, there will always be dishonest douchbags, but when they become the largest and most common entities in a nation that nation is on the way to economic and moral ruin.
Great response. Wish I had mod points today.
Yeah, but your explanation is a huge fail. They use Quran tracks in Libya, not Bible tracks.
Well, AC, you almost get it. No government can "give you everything you want". You pay for everything you get from the government, and since government is the most inefficient organization around you pay through the nose for anything you get from it. And, any government big enough to do all of that to you is big enough to control every aspect of your life.
Big government, government that claims to give you things, is the most deceitful and corrupt organization there is. The question is, when will /.ers recognize this fact and begin to understand exactly what's going on? Right now, very few /.ers seem to get it.
Well, with their policies on their own people having children, their average age pretty much has to keep on going up for the foreseeable future. The way it is, for every child there has to be at least two adults. Most likely it's going to be 6 adults per child fairly soon as grandparents on each side of the family will have only 1 grandchild between them. That's 4 grandparents and 2 parents per child, plus any great-grandparents.. The average age is going to rise rapidly.
Ummm.... Truly open-minded people don't close their minds on an issue just because someone on the other side is angry at the moment. People who pretend to be open-minded latch onto any excuse they can find to ignore the other side of an issue and have someone else to blame for their own closed mind. People who are willing to have have honest dialog will even put up with lots of angry rhetoric, and abusive behavior, in the hopes of having an honest dialog when the other person calms down. People unwilling to have an honest dialog will use an angry outburst as an excuse to close off all chance of real communication.
I fail to see the point of your post as the only person you can have an effective dialog with is the truly open-minded person who isn't looking for an excuse to not have an honest dialog. The person looking for an excuse to not have an honest dialog will latch on to any excuse, including the fact that you disagree with them.
Yeah, and look at how many liberals post the same type of comments about conservatives and get modded up as insightful around here?
Thoughtful conservative comments are modded down here regularly because, and I've been told this specifically here on /. when I asked why a post full of provable facts was modded as a troll, those who oppose conservative thought are tired of hearing it even when they know what is said is true. Just what does that have to say about progressives/socialists? Nothing good, imo. They're just proving they are just as biased, just as close-minded, as they claim their political counterpoints are. They certainly aren't proving that they are thoughtful, articulate, open-minded, willing to discuss the issues, and open to changing their mind.
Maybe if we ignore him, he'll go away. This loon is getting far too much attention from the left. I'm even starting to think that it isn't the right keeping him famous. No one of a sound mind could possibly believe any of his incoherent babblings.
Really? How is it that he just plays video, or puts up quotes, from the far left to make his points? There is public documentation for pretty much everything he says. He's also been remarkably astute with his political and economic predictions. He's been correct in the vast majority of his economic and political predictions. He's called crazy for what he predicts, and then a year or so later the majority of politicians and economists are saying the same things he did. Yet he's the only one called crazy for saying those things.
Funny how the far left, like George Soros, take him very seriously. For instance, if all he was doing was lying and making unfounded assertions about Soros, rather than quoting him at length from his books and interviews about his goals, methods and character, Soros would either be laughing at him, or taking him to court. He isn't. He's spending millions of dollars in his attempts to get Beck off the air through character assassination and political pressure because Beck is exposing Soros' mode of operation to the general public, and Soros isn't happy about it.
If you had publicly stated on this site that you weren't going to vote in this next election, I would be far from crazy to predict that you aren't going to vote in this next election. In essence, this is exactly what Beck has been doing, and is being called crazy for doing.
Ummm... 2003 is calling and wants your FUD back.
Debian's installer is no more difficult than Ubuntu's. or Windows, although it does give you the option to go into more detail by using the "so-called" expert mode. Today's "expert" mode is pretty much dead simple unless you use something like linux RAID and then it requires you to know RAID. Other than that it doesn't require anywhere near the knowledge the Woody installer did.
It took me 3 tries to install Woody. If the Squeeze installer had been used for Woody installations I would have had a working installation the first time, knowing what I did then..
In almost 8 years of Debian usage I've run into that one time, but it was in testing, not stable, and it required the upgrading of glic so it was dependent on a major system change.
Ummmm.... Goes to show you know very little about Debian. If you want up-to-date software run testing. It has fewer bugs than Ubuntu, and on average has newer software versions. Sure, Ubuntu may add some new packages before Debian does, but comparing package to package, Debian testing is more up-to-date....
I've been running testing or unstable on my workstation and laptop for years and I run into fewer problems in them than I do whenever I have tried Ubuntu. Ubuntu takes a snapshot of Debian unstable and then works on it for 6 months. For the 6 months Debian is moving to newer versions of the software Ubuntu took in the snapshot. Result? Unstable/Sid has newer software in the vast majority of cases.
And this bad? Why? The point of a stable release is to be stable, not to introduce bugs by introducing new software into the system, and possibly major system changes. That can break a lot of stuff, and if you're running a server that's the last thing you need.
Why are you running 2.6.27 when Squeeze ships with 2.6.32 by default?
ubuntu is debian packaged for (possibly non-tech-savvy) end-users and polished a bit.
Ubuntu is Debian packaged for (possibly non-tech-savvy) end-users and dumbed down a lot.
FTFY
You can't just count packages and draw conclusions from counts. Some of the packages haven't been updated in years. Some are only used by like five users on the planet. Some are so buggy they won't even run.
Weigh them by how many people install and use them, and you've got something to talk about, though.
Nope, you sure can't draw conclusions off of package counts alone.
However, a person, such as myself, can use Debian since 2003 and come to the conclusion that the packages, and packaging, in Debian are of high quality. A typical Debian Gnome desktop install takes around 3-4 gigs of hard drive space. My desktop installations, after a year or two, normally take up 12 to 15 gigs due to the number of packages I install. My longest running install--apt-get dist-upgrades from Woody through Etch--had more than 20 gigs of installed software. So, I can say I use a lot of the packages in the Debian repositories and I can't say I find buggy software inside Debian.
I can also come to the conclusion that you're just running at the mouth and have no idea as to what you're talking about. You're just plain old spreading FUD, nothing more or less than that. Seven, going on eight, years of Debian experince allows me to draw that conclusion about your post.
LOL. Seems to me you need to learn to recognize the difference between ffreeloader and nebaz. Nebaz is the funny man. I'm the humorless guy that can still recognize sarcasm....
Trolling? Window update is NOT mandatory. You can choose not to install a specific fix and then it will not prompt you for it in the future. It's not like PS3, where you have to update to play online.
Hmmmm.... Seems you must be unable to recognize sarcasm. And here I thought I was humorless. ;)
I see tongue-in-cheek commentary never gets to the point where you can digest it.... ;)
What you're commenting about is the reverse implant phenomenon. What it does is make a woman's breasts appear smaller when she has her clothes on.
I agree with you. In Nuatilus you can set it so that any software on removable media cannot be executed, and run something like Rhythmbox upon inserting a music cd. Now, I agree that may be a security hole, but it's also a pretty good option in that no software on the disk can run. It does a lot to stop malware from being executed/installed from the removable media.
It's not like a camp full of Germans in WWII, these guys haven't given up the desire to fight us.
Why would a camp full of Germans in WWII have given up the desire to fight? I don't think that our soldiers invariably turn pacifist on being captured.
Because of two things. One, they realized they were losing the war despite the propoganda the Nazis fed their citizens. Two, most German soldiers, not talking about the SS here, were conscripts who weren't Nazis and didn't agree with the Nazi principles. They fought rather than get shot, and when the fear of getting shot was removed all they wanted to do was ride out the war outside of the battle zone. They weren't ideologues.