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Glen Beck Warns Viewers Not To Use Google
An anonymous reader writes "Glenn Beck has told his viewers to do research, but to not use Google, because 'Google is pretty deeply in bed with the government.' He points to the fact that Google is having some problems overseas, as well as Jared Cohen. Cohen is Director of Google Ideas, has worked with the State Department, and has played a role in the 2009 unrest in Iran. He also mentions social networking in sinister undertones, asking if it's government propaganda."
Seriously, this guy is about one step away from saving his urine in jars and going all David Koresh on a compound somewhere. Anyone who still takes that clown seriously is either already a paranoid schizophrenic or too stupid to be reasoned with anyway. You would have more luck arguing with a religious fanatic.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Beck is just trying to jump on the Alex Jones bandwagon.
If nobody uses Google Search, how will Bing! ever improve?
Seriously, an article about someone not trusting Google? You'd think that it was never said here that Google's "Don't be evil" is complete bull!@#$.
is the best way to guarantee future Republicans.
I think it's safe to say that /. has a left-leaning bias. Why give him the time of day? I wonder how many followers that loud-mouthed ignoramus would have if the "liberal" media didn't get all flustered every time he says something like this.
"Here Lies Philip J. Fry, named for his uncle, to carry on his spirit"
he doesn't want to you read about what he might have done back in 1990
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If someone does a Google search, they may, just possibly, find out the truth about something.
And that possibility is what people like Glenn Beck find the most frightening.
It's ok, he's just asking questions.
Oh geeze, he's not going to cry on television again, is he?
I'm still hoping he announces one day, "HA! I was kidding, America! I had you going for YEARS! Look how many nutjobs I was able to rile up with my crazy antics, and you LISTENED to me!"
Aren't his fifteen minutes up yet?
Radio host Alex Jones has been saying the same thing about Google since 2009. He claims Google was funded by the CIA, or something like that, and they maintain close ties. Of course Jones says the same about Wikileaks (funded by the CIA). I see no evidence that Google is funded by anybody, or has close ties to the government.
There are more important players to worry about, such as NBC/GE who received a ~50 billion dollar bailout in exchange for their continued support of the Bush administration (and later obama admin). Also the ISPs (ATT, Verizon, etc) that shutdown their Usenet access simply because the New York government told them to do so.
But fear google? Nah. Especially now that they have the original creators back in control, and the CEO kicked out.
Information wants to be expensive AND wants to be free. So you have Value vs. Cheap distribution fighting each other.
Because the media's not going to!
I don't think that scaremongering buffoon ever expected to have so many sheeple worshiping everything he says. Now that they are he can't stop inhaling it and will probably be spreading retard all over the place for many years to come. Here's hoping he goes too far one day and says something that ruins his career.
I would look into all the people the State Department are working with; MSNBC, CBS, gosh, MTV.
Just say it, every news outlet but Fox, right? It's the only thing stopping you from busting out the "trust no one" hyperbole, right?
Maybe we should start watching those networks a little bit and seeing what their news coverage is like.
Why don't we watch all of them and judge them fairly against each other? Or do you just want scrutiny only on the networks you're not on?
Who are these groups? Who are they? Are they right, are they left, are they clean, are they dirty, are they front groups? I don't know.
Wait, wait, wait, so what are you accusing them of? Absolutely nothing? And if you don't know then why are you telling us to investigate them? Maybe because you know nobody will do it and instead they'll just continue listening to you? "Is Glenn Beck, good, bad, is he left, is he right, is he clean, is he dirty? I don't know. Maybe you should keep your eye on him?"
May I recommend, if you're doing your own homework, don't do a Google search. Seems to me that Google is pretty deeply in bed with the government. Maybe this is explaining why Google is being kicked out of all the other countries?
My god, would you please just make a statement instead of repeated leading questions?! How is Google any more "in bed" with the government than Microsoft or Yahoo?
Are they just a shill now for the United States government? Who is Jared Cohen? Is he private citizen or government operative? And isn't this the second Google guy we've found? This is the second Google executive now being exposed as an instigator of a revolution.
Your little pointer stick and board didn't do much to lead to conclusive evidence that Cohen has "instigated a revolution."
I couldn't get the MM site to load but the Youtube version worked for me and holy crap what a load of horseshit. I saw Glenn Beck on TV in a waiting room once and thought it was a joke. The amount of faulty, leading, incomplete logic here is just staggering, even in this video. Instead of wasting my time itemizing everything wrong about what he's saying and pointing out the obvious, I should have just taken Salon's advice and done something more constructive.
My work here is dung.
Alex Jones called, said he wants his "how to sell fear" playbook back.
Glenn Beck basically takes his whole play book from Alex Jones. He's a toned down version, which is pretty awesome. Yes Alex Jones is MORE paranoid. Much much more.
Honestly I don't see much of a problem with it. I like radicals on all sides. We need those people to stir the pot.
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He's an entertainer, nothing more. He says stuff like this to get publicity like this.
I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it by not dying. - Woody Allen
Well, it is kindof true. Google is very big brother in the way they gather data about their users.
For that matter, just about any large internet company is going to be in bed with whatever governments whose jurisdiction they operate within. It's called "compliance with law enforcement". It's very patriotic for corporations to work with governments. Of course, if you have nothing to hide, it's fine, right?
The other reason Beck might hate the internet, of course, is that the internet is just an outgrowth of yet another giant government project. We all remember ARPA and DARPA, right?
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
Maybe if we ignore him, he'll go away. This loon is getting far too much attention from the left. I'm even starting to think that it isn't the right keeping him famous. No one of a sound mind could possibly believe any of his incoherent babblings.
why am i assumed to know who Glenn Beck is?
You can't explain that.
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Let's see: Glenn Beck.
Hmmm, yes he has reasons to be afraid of Google. However that's just because he refuses to deny it. Why? Why doesn't he come forth and deny it?
Maybe this is explaining why Google is being kicked out of all the other countries?
Man, you just gotta love how backwards Glenn Beck's thinking is, CONSISTENTLY.
What countries would those be? China is the only one I remember, but perhaps I've forgotten some.
In my mind, getting kicked out of China is pretty much a badge of honor, not something to be suspicious of them for. I'd be more suspicious of the companies NOT getting kicked out of repressive foreign countries - but apparently Beck thinks you should only trust the companies who are trusted by autocrats. So, I guess, Fox News.
Why is the Republican party imploding into insanity?
I can not believe you people allow idiots like Beck and Palin even open their mouths. They make all republicans look insane just by association.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
I don't trust google, I don't trust anybody but myself and my family. But I really don't have enough of my personal life online to care, and they have done a great job making a usable and free application stack, so I use it and I really don't give a crap. And at least with them I can have some legal recourse if I am truly wronged, whereas you have little recourse against a government that has wronged you as they make the laws, and clearly bend them where they see fit. Everybody knows big business is in bed with the government, and as wrong as that is I don't blame big business for that, I blame the government for allowing to happen. They should be helping to protect the people from big business, not helping to prosecute the people.
Didn't he just describe Fox News? That is what they do over at Fox News, is it not?
I'm a 2000 man.
So since I don't listen to a damn word he says I'll stick with using Google. Also did he trade in his non-traceable chalk board for a TV monitor today to show the evils of technology? Selex
An excellent movie from 1957 starring Andy Griffith (playing against type) as a Beckian rabble-rouser. Pretty scary how close it comes to the mark.
Google warns users not to view Glen Beck.
Man, he's such a clown!
Everyone slams left and right commentators for being idiots or lunatics. 38 comments so far, no one has cited any references to prove them wrong. Don't get me wrong, I think Becks "cheese has slid off the cracker". 10 seconds of his show makes me want to take a shower, but please (not just with him)link where he/she is/been wrong.
The truth is the media is just a mouthpiece for the federal government and all large corps are in on the action. But he uses that information to what end? Just to fight one particular party instead of addressing the real issue.
Tiger Blooded Bi-Winning Machine
Never heard of the guy.
Went to look him up.
Within three pages of Google searches, couldn't find a single reason to listen to anything he says.
Either he's right, and Google is also actively trying to discredit him, or he's an idiot.
My money's on the second option.
So we can't use Google, because it is in bed with the government. And we can't use Bing, because it just copies its results from Google. Wait a minute, this can only mean one thing....BECK IS USING PROPAGANDA IN PREPARATION TO LAUNCH HIS OWN SEARCH ENGINE!
I'll alert TechCrunch.
Facebook is becoming more scary by the day. Yesterday I got offered a Facebook email address and also noted that they are now storing all FB chat threads in your inbox. A huge percentage of people will take up the email address offer and there doesn't (yet) seem to be a way of stopping all of your chats saving (although obviously these were always stored invisibly - just not visible to users). All of this means that there will effectively be a giant data repository containing not only all the personal details, likes, dislikes, views, relationships, religious & political views, photos and much much more for over 500 million people, but will also eventually contain X hundred million users emails (all your personal messages, receipts for online purchases and much more), all your conversations with your friends (remember the "MSN IS DEAD!" headlines from a few months ago? - 'Hey kids, dont use that old MSN thing! Use Facebook chat to talk to your friends instead!')...
I work for a marketing agency and data is at the heart of everything we do. With some decent data mining applications and propensity modelling software and access to the full Facebook database (and some decent facial recognition software to analyse the photos) and you could probably establish a model to predict when each of us would take a shit each day.
If you take the view that there is a slowly tightening control grid being put in place by the NWO elite (no I do not wear a tinfoil hat), then this is a pretty fucking scary.
I wonder how this relates to George Soros...
Beck's trick is he is giving facts but either lacking context or the wrong one. It is a fact that Cohen has worked with the US State Department but in the context of Google's corporate structure, how much influence does he really have outside of his Ideas Group? Never mind that because Beck just needs to say that and merely suggest there is a connection and "let the people decide".
Do other countries have conspiracy theorists with such depth and wide-reaching audiences that have radio or television programs?
Libertarians somehow believe that private businesses should be stronger than governments but weaker than individuals.
anyone who actually believes anything Beck says can't do a google search anyway, since the drool keeps shorting out the keyboard.
this is the nature of humans and popular movements, almost always an insane clown in the middle. this guy is at best satire, but is more likely pandering to paranoid, deluded, overzealous religious/fundamentalist 1950's hold overs. the fact that many people believe him and take him seriously is disturbing. you know all those folks that hate(d) the idea of women voters, natives, blacks, desegregation and humanism in general? well here they are, foaming at the mouth from fear and rallied by idiots like beck. trying to make our country a better place, you know "God's country".
My Meter is pegged on Noise. Just take a look at his own web sight own web siight. The first sense there reads:
"Glenn brings the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment into your living room."
Lets all go back to Saturday night Live for our news. Where there is more entertainment. and IMHO I think Glenn's enlightenment has burned out.
Who called this news in the first place. Oh Ya Mr. anonymous. I think April First has not yet arrived, save up your stuff until then.
On one hand, this is freaking hilarious. Glenn Beck makes me laugh more than most comedians.
On the other hand, people will believe him. When Fox *does* start telling us to store our urine and wear special hats to block evil government rays, my dad will believe them. And half the people I know from high school on Facebook will believe them. Ugh.
it must really suck to be a beck/rush style republican and live in fear of EVERYTHING. no wonder they need all those guns. everything is a threat to these people. it's just sad.
Listening to Glenn Beck make my brain hurt; it saddens me that people listen to him and believe him.
Make me a Sandwich. What? Make it yourself. Sudo make me a sandwich. Okay. http://xkcd.com/149/
Many people dislike Glenn Beck and openly mock him, fair enough - free country and all...
Many people dislike Google, for what they believe to be violations of privacy and other rights, as well as going against (in their mind at least) the company's motto of "Don't be Evil" - again, fair enough, everyone is entitled to their opinions...
But, where it gets interesting is where these two populations intersect - Glenn-bashing Google-haters - how will they resolve the conflicting ideas that Glenn is always wrong, yet he agrees with them when it comes to Google?
I know, they'll trot out that old stand-by, "Even a broken clock is right two times a day."
Ken
I've gotten a fair amount of garbage results from Google -- not any where NEAR the level where I would consider tossing it in the pile of "useless stuff". I'd say JUST enough to where I'm leery of taking everything Google spits back at me at the gospel.
I have, however, received excellent results when reading original source materials... Something which Beck suggests everyone do. How can this be seen as anything but excellent advice?
Just because Chicken Little is running around saying "The sky is falling" doesn't mean is wrong on EVERYTHING that comes out of his beak. At the very least we can agree that a broken clock is right at least twice a day, cant we?
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/bl-glenn-beck-conspiracy.htm
Glenn Beck is an ignorant twat that had his brain sucked out by aliens - or more likely, religious fanatics. He's only one step away from wearing Depends and drooling in his soup.
I cannot in good conscience, recommend anyone take him seriously. The fact this intellectual black hole gets so much air time is clear evidence that some asshole somewhere has far more money and influence than brains or concern for human society anywhere - and is calling a lot of shots at Fox (NOT)News.
Don't blame the messenger. I just call 'em how I see 'em.
1. Glenn Beck works for Fox News
2. Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal owns a 7 percent stake in News Corp
3. Saudia Arabia is deeply unnerved by the revolutions sweeping aside the old crusty strongmen in the Middle East
So Prince bin Talal gets on the phone with Glenn Beck's bosses. Next day, Glenn Beck starts spouting off against internet tools that Middle Eastern revolutionaries use.
Yes, the same Glenn Beck who wears a Revolutionary War era Tricorner Hat and wraps himself in the American flag.
The tragedy is the people who reject, for example, Barack Obama as a "communist" and "secret muslim" and "antiamerican who wants to destroy the USA" and doubt he was born here. Incredibly low IQ lies and smears. Low IQ lies and smears spread by people who wrap themselves in the American flag, but who are of course working for corporate and foreign interests, corporate interests squarely pointed against what is good for Americans and American interests. And millions of Americans beleive this nonsense! Why? Because the "information" is presented to them, not by appealing to their sense of reason, but by appealing to their emotions: fear, hysteria, panic. Classic propaganda psychology.
The tragedy is people who view Fox News as "American" and don't know they are basically being propagandized and programmed against, for example, their own self-intererests, like higher quality, more affordable health care. Because the insurance industry might make less money. Better that Grandma die 10 years earlier than we succumb to evil SOCIALISM. Seriously?!
Sheep, whose Real American (tm) opinions are bought and paid for by Saudi Oil money, fat cat corporate dollars, and yes, the Chinese Communist Party.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/26/world/asia/26murdoch.html
So to summarize: Obama is a Communist and a Muslim Terrorist and anti-American... propaganda deeply believed by millions of Americans whose brains are basically programmed via a regular dose of fear and hysteria by smearmongers like Glenn Beck, whose ideological whoring... drum roll please... is paid for by actual Saudi Wahhabists and Chinese Communist controlled corporations!
If it wasn't so tragic, it would be hilarious.
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Its the classic signs of a delusional paranoid about to implode. He fears Google because it will produce search results that reveal to him his worst fears about Glenn Beck. His only hope is that Ruppert Murdoch never learns to use Google.
The best bet is to not let anyone tell you how you should think. It can be a political candidate, a TV host, a church leader, a parent or a spouse. The converse is also true, don't try to tell anyone how to think.
You can watch this mess if you want but realize it a careful calculated effort to work you up.
Nothing like a good humor article in the morning to start your day.
Who quotes media matters? they exist solely to write negative info about fox and take things out of context.
Beck may be a nut-job, but don't patently discount him for this reason. Step back and look at things objectively. Look at Google based on facts and a little educated inductive reasoning. Doing so leaves it pretty unlikely that Google is not in bed with the Community. I'll give this prediction: they are.
... Google told me not to look at Fox News.
Is it not refreshing to hear a republican (or libertarian, rather) say dont trust the government and dont completely rely on one source for information?
I keep trying to think up a helpful, constructive, neutral comment- but every way I think of it, it comes out as really, aggressively anti-Republican. Maybe there's a reason for that. It might just be my choice of news outlets, but I keep hearing a lot less stupid stuff from Democrats than I do from Republicans. As someone who likes to think of themselves as unaffiliated and neutral, I can't really think of many good things coming from the right- all we're seeing is baseless accusations and attempts to stifle legitimate progress, social and otherwise.
(Actually, I use FoxNews for news a lot- their site gets information sooner than CNN, and MSNBC's site is a jumbled mess. I take everything I read there with a grain of salt or five, though.)
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Beck is out there for one thing. Money. That's what it's all about. He will say anything to get press and attention so he can sell his books and book his events. He is repulsive.
I don't google/bing/yahoo anything I would not want printed on the front page of the New York Times.... I think Glenn Beck is a nut, like the Y2Kers. I also don't think a multi-billion dollar company who's business is storing data; is on my side either!
I want my rights back. I was actually using them when our government stole them after 9/11.
Arguably, Mr. Beck has just had a rare "stopped clock" moment. Yup, no shit, highly sophisticated electronic data systems are, in fact, the biggest development in profiling and surveillance since approximately the invention of writing. Yes, in fact, most players large enough that you know their names are(directly or indirectly) likely to be working for, or co-opted by, the state. CALEA is a matter of public law, not exactly a shadowy secret. "National security letters", while their scope is a shadowy secret, are also a publicly known instrument of data gathering. The fact that the state buys "3rd party intelligence" from private companies to supplement the domestic surveillance it isn't supposed to be doing also isn't a secret, it's a bloody industry...
Purely going by well-corroborated stories that show up on the NYT frontpage you can pretty much fulfill any paranoid conspiracy theory you want, as long as it doesn't involve reptoids or the illuminati.
Unfortunately, in Beck's case, his not-exactly-groundbreaking observation that a large advertising company might in fact be tracking users is surrounded by so much sheer nonsense as to be of effectively no use. Rather than laying out the sort of surveillance society we have voted and purchased our way happily into, he gives us one conspiracist snippet about Google. Next week, I'm sure that Soros will be secretly bankrolling Google so that Obama will know where the Real True Christians are when it is time for his legions of welfare-spawned criminality to emerge from their ghettos and begin operating the Obama-Youth reeducation/death camps...
"... a conspiracy so immense and an infamy so black as to dwarf any previous venture in the history of man." But this quote is from Senator Joe McCarthy back in the 1950s. Look up Joseph McCarthy in the Wikipedia if you don't know who that was. Yep, I was a young boy back then; really that old. Seen all this before. Beck is just a pale shadow of what happened in those days. Sigh. Wish I could go back there, Senator Joe and all!
I think the left has found their go-to boogieman.
Larry Page and Sergey Brin were totally born in Kenya. Sergey is also a Soviet Communist (hence the name), and both are Muslims, as well as atheists.
Incorrect, left leaning people are lazy and put form over substance. They don't understand the consequences of doing something because it feels good instead of being good.
Really? All of them? 100%? Amazing.
Hmm, if only there was a word for what you are doing, we could call it pre something, hmm, how about judging.
Google is and excellent example with their vision statement: Do no evil which means nothing since they are in the search/technology business.
Well, except that's not their vision statement, it's not even their informal motto. (It is close to it though)
But it sounds good, especially if you keep repeating it using your 640K is enough computer on your Al Gore created Internet.
Imagine a world where you essentially have one outlet for the spew. One service for email. One news aggregator. One forum platform. All your friends are on it, your co-workers, your WORK. You use it to chat with friends all over the world, share pictures of your latest vacation, expose the lies of your last boyfriend, recommend a new band you heard about on the same forum, celebrate family events and mourn those who have departed. You post your more cogent thoughts alongside OMG! PONIES!.
You consider it a trusted source of information about things important to you. You join into larger and smaller groups to share common goals, or just to voice your opinion about something, often on a whim.
You carefully limit the disclosure of your 'private' information, and in the next breath answer a poll that tells you it will send the very same poll to all your 'friends' on this service. You answer their polls also, because you want to be included in their circles.
Does this sound familiar?
Now, consider how hard it is for our law enforcement, national security, and intelligence agencies to monitor the many forums and services that you use to voice opinions, share your expriences, email, get news and opinion, and of course look for employment opportunities/new friends/etc.
Would it be easier for them to monitor just ONE? And would it be easier for them to coerce that one service into permitting their intrusions?
You're thinking smugly now, "oh, but I use at least TWO! HA!". Sure, that'll really throw them for a loop. The service isn't The Twitter, or Facebook, or even Slashdot. It's the Internet. It's not just one service they can jack into, but the number of jacks they need is finite, and is already manageable.
And there are indeed a very few jacks they could use to listen in on the overwhelming majority of the spew. The rest they can get without a subpoena unless someone says 'no, you can't do that'. And that someone may be co-opted, and we would never know. We may never know if they are just listening either. Maybe they have an interest in keeping some things from becoming too popular, or just wanting a particular idea to flourish, to the detriment of other ideas...
Sometimes, bigger IS better. Sometimes not. Competition isn't necessarily the answer, but then again the question shouldn't have been 'how do we keep our government out of our personal lives? How do we avoid being watched so easily?" And just as importantly, how do we keep government from limiting our expression? That is a question being asked over much of the world. And it will need to be asked here, in the U.S., also. We're not immune to government interference, far from it. It's not the Internet kill siwtch that worries me, it's the filters. And the listeners.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
in Google hate amongst the hard core neo-cons pundits. It's an easy target, and seen as 'wrong' because it shares information.
All their hate towards it is complete nonsense.
There are using it to leverage the paranoia they peddle. IT's important because for some strange reason there ranting nonsense ends up in slightly more mainstream media, and then slightly more, and then bam everyone who watches Oprah is screaming Google is killing their children.
Also, we are in a time where if you do business with the government then apparently you are in league with some world wide conspiracy to get people for something.
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How on earth can this tripe be paraded on a news channel, giving it a faux sense of authority over the facts.
I have no problem with political opinion pieces on tv but don't try masquerade it as news as that simply insults my intelligence.
There are also people that still believe the earth is flat and we're not talking about them. The earth has crazies... why care what they say? Ignore him and he will go away.
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one big issue with google, facebook, craigslist etc. is that they are private companies with near-monopolies in what they do with near 0 accountability. they can kick you off, they can do things without asking for your permission. they do provide valuable services, of that there is no doubt. imagine that facebook kicked you off unfairly. or google blocks your website from searches unfairly. or craigslist does the same (this happens frequently, actually). you can plead your case with them, but you HAVE NO RIGHTS. to some extent, i'd rather take the government with its so-called checks and balances than possible high-handedness of google, facebook or craigslist.
i don't have a solution; i don't advocate google, fb to have government monitoring, but there should be a standard code of conduct as to the rights of users and their legal recourse.
Most people don't know how to think for themselves properly. They don't know how to weigh data, determine a good observation from a bad, don't know what confirmation bias is and could tell a good study from a bad study if their life depended on it.
So they go to people they choose to trust, and use their ';gut' feeling w; which are almost always wrong for everybody.
However, a large part of his base thinks the Bible is a literal document that is inerrant.
Even thought hat is provable incorrect they wont' change their views. why? because in their 'gut' they feel it's a literal document regardless of the contradictions.
So 'Thinking for yourself' is a good idea, but people need to learn how to do that.
"don't try to tell anyone how to think."
no, I will continue to try and teach people how to think, thank you very much. I won't tell them what to think.
Foremost is that they can have their own opinion, but they can't have their own facts.
Right after that people need to know that a belief can, in fact, be wrong and that they don't have a right to a wrong belief.
If they put forth a claim that can be falsified, and it is, then the belief in that claim is wrong.
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When the face of your preferred party is a guy that is so ridiculous it makes you hate being a member of said party. Where are the moderate republicans to bring this guy back in check? I may as well just label myself independent. As a sidenote: you're a complete tool bag if you think Microsoft, Yahoo, or any other search engine for that matter isn't subject to government access like Google. He'd probably prefer us all to use Baidu for some crazy ass reason...
Why do Americans always assume their politics must come in one of two flavours, that someone is either on the right or the left?
The two-party system arose because U.S. congressional and presidential elections are plurality rule, not something more sensible like approval, and U.S. politics has reached the end state predicted by Duverger's law for plurality systems. Also because the MPAA-controlled TV news organizations only have to cover the two parties most favorable to them.
Don't watch Glenn Beck. He is a clown and this is one of the professional wrestlers of Republican talk radio and TV, and they want to get rid of NPR so he's and Fox are the only things left to watch. (And whose the biggest looser).
The sad thing is that so many here are so blind to the horrors that await us. You need to stop blinding yourselves to the greater issue of the impending imposition of Sharia Law by getting hung up in anti-Christian rhetoric. As Sharia Law burrows its way into the United States, non-Muslims will ultimately bear the brunt of oppression and violence. And all you atheists and agnostics will not be exempt. You will have to make the choice to either follow Islam to reject Islam and accept the consequences of being a non-Muslim under Islamic Law. And you won't be able to fall back on the Constitution, because Sharia Law will trump the Constitution making it void and moot.
a big issue with google, facebook, craigslist etc. is that they are private companies with near-monopolies in what they do with near 0 accountability. they can kick you off, they can do things without asking for your permission. they do provide valuable services, of that there is no doubt. imagine that facebook kicked you off unfairly. or google blocks your website from searches unfairly. or craigslist does the same (this happens frequently, actually). you can plead your case with them, but you HAVE NO RIGHTS. to some extent, i'd rather take the government with its so-called checks and balances than possible high-handedness of google, facebook or craigslist. i don't have a solution; i don't advocate google, fb to have government monitoring, but there should be a standard code of conduct as to the rights of users and their legal recourse.
Glenn Beck should be deeply thankful for social networks. If it weren't for Facebook, I still might not know who he is.
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." -- George Orwell
Should explain everything.
Given that the government (or worse-Al Gore!) started the Internet, maybe they should just stay off the tubes entirely. And of course, the FCC controls the airwaves, so maybe it's back to golden tablets found in deserts or scrolls written by civilizations they don't believe in.
Yes, I think that'd be for the best.
A reminder from the NSA: Don't use words like 'president' and 'assassinate' in your
What would he have us use if not Google? Bing?!
Oh wait, maybe not...
The Community? and Glenn Beck is not in bed with the Republican propaganda machine churning out conspiracies left and right without regard to the facts. Also responsible in part for the insanity that shows up as members of Congress being shot in the head.
Google is an information company, it vends information about the world and connect people in the world. Now governments, like China want to control information and Google, like any business (or government) will make deals to get done what they think they need to get done. Well Google backed off from the Chinese restrictions but at least they claim to "do no harm" as a goal. That is not any of the goals of Glenn Beck, on the contrary if you listen to him, he is all about harm. Harming anyone that he feels does not believe the things he believes (well ok its an act on his part but like Soopy Sails or PeeWee Herman he keeps a consistant public persona, I personally like the other two better but they all are perverse in their own ways, crazy is crazy even when its an act).
The problem is people believe he knows something and has their best interests at heart. Sad really. I watched Glenn cry on camera once, it was the worst job of acting I have seen in a long time.
every time i read about things like this i just cant help to think that this is nothing but a marketing strategy designed to take some market share from google lol.
The older one gets the more one has to lose, and the fewer the opportunities one has to earn it back.
Fresh-out-of-college kids have their whole lives ahead of them and are typically flat broke. They are quite eager to take big risks and attempt to de-thrown the entrenched holders of wealth in order to take their place.
The well-entrenched would prefer to hold on to what they have earned, especially since they don't have their whole lives ahead of them to earn it all back.
So it is natural enough that the older audience would favor policies that keep things as-are, whereas a younger audience would favor policies that shake up the status quo. And intelligence has nothing to do with these incentives.
Given Beck's flip-flopping he needs to be taken with some scrutiny. He used to purport to be a liberal/communist and now he purports to be sort of cross between a libertarian and a conservative. I occasionally watch Beck but I don't take him seriously as a libertarian as he clearly pushed a somewhat neocon agenda. Given his history and neocon leanings it's just hard to take him seriously as a libertarian.
Has anyone else noticed how much Glenn Beck sounds like Dana Carvey as The Church Lady on Saturday Night Live?
* "What do we call it now?" (pause) "Oh yes, community organizing." -- Glenn Beck
* "Who could it be?" (pause) "Oh yes, SATAN!" -- Church Lady.
The tone of voice and cadence are really similar. Seriously, he's channeling the Church Lady. Intentional and tongue in cheek or subconsciously? Who knows. But listen....it's there!
Carvey was on SNL again a few weeks ago and did a reprise of Church Chat, let the comparing begin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTT5MUmIHgA
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It's not only critical for me to know what is going on with new technologies, tech cultures, and corporate tech news...I also need to know what an arbitrary talk show host with no real relevance to any of those things said in their recent broadcast. I really wish you would post more about what Michael Moore and Al Gore say on television too...and it wouldn't have killed you to post a story about that recent fashion show where the female models were wearing clothing that appears to be designed for males. Maybe cupcake recipes? /obvioustr
Well we have finally done it, we have found the one person/idea/opinion/product that absolutely no one on slashdot will defend as having some merit from some viewpoint. The absolutely only thing slasdot can agree on is that Glenn Beck makes terrible illogical arguments. Anyone dissent? Going once, twice.......
Slashdot has an international audience. And most of the world, even what I'd call moderate right-wingers, are far off the left wing of the USA. So, naturally, if the average USA citizen is exposed to the opinions from people outside their country, they will perceive it as "left-leaning bias". And if I take part in a strongly USA-based conversation, I'll feel it has a "right-leaning bias". Same thing.
"Myopic" is a very appropriate handle for you.
Mormons believe in Christ, therefore are Christian.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam
In Islam, Jesus (Arabic: ; `s) is considered to be a Messenger of God and the Masih who was sent to guide the Children of Israel (ban isr'l) with a new scripture, the Injl or Gospel.[1]
The Qur'an (Koran), considered by Muslims to be God's final and authoritative revelation to mankind, mentions Jesus twenty-five times.[2] It states that Jesus was born to Mary (Arabic: Maryam) as the result of virginal conception, a miraculous event which occurred by the decree of God (Arabic: Allah). To aid in his ministry to the Jewish people, Jesus was given the ability to perform miracles, all by the permission of God rather than of his own power. According to the Qur'an, Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather he was ascended to heaven (jannah).[3] Islamic tradition and commentaries states that he will return to earth near the day of judgment to restore justice and defeat al-Mas ad-Dajjl ("the false messiah", also known as the Antichrist).[4][5]
Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered to have been a Muslim by the term's definition; i.e., one who submits to the will of God, as he preached that his followers should adopt the "straight path" as commanded by God. Islam rejects the Christian view that Jesus was God incarnate or the son of God, that he was ever crucified or resurrected, or that he ever atoned for the sins of mankind. The Qur'an says that Jesus himself never claimed any of these things, and it furthermore indicates that Jesus will deny having ever claimed divinity at the Last Judgment, and Allah will vindicate him.[6] Rather, the Qur'an emphasizes that Jesus was a mortal human being who, like all other prophets, had been divinely chosen to spread God's message. Islamic texts forbid the association of partners with God (shirk), emphasizing a strict notion of monotheism; i.e., God's divine oneness (tawhd).
Numerous titles are given to Jesus in the Qur'an, such as al-Mas ("the messiah; the anointed one" i.e. by means of blessings), although this particular term does not correspond with the meaning given to it by Christians. Arabic-speaking Christians refer to Jesus as Yasu (Arabic script ). Jesus is seen in Islam as a precursor to Muhammad, and is believed by Muslims to have foretold the latter's coming.
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Christians are monotheists, but Mormons are polytheistic
Although Christians claim loudly they are monotheists, they are still unsatisfied with just worshiping God (as Jews do), and have added in a dead Jew who they worship instead, attributing to this man-god-hybrid all the powers of the original God. This is not really monotheism.
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This is a pretty common fallacy Christians like to use when they're embarrassed by other Christians. Given all the variations of "monotheistic" Christianity, especially given most of them accept the Trinity and many accept Saints as well, why should it be impossible for there to be a polytheistic brand of Christianity, and why would it matter to you?
It certainly doesn't seem to matter to his fans!
Don't thank God, thank a doctor!
Glen Beck is not full of it, he is a puppet that has been strategically positioned to enhance the left-right paradigm. Most likely he has been told to say this so that 85% of the people who hear it will assume that it is wrong and crazy.
I do not believe a thing that he says, but I fully recognize that he will use truths to help plant seeds of disinfo.
Glenn Beck is the new Lewis Prothero.
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you have to admit, the man is a genius.
he has boosted his ratings by getting all the smart people talking about him, and likely put a dent in googles margin by getting all of the dumb people listening to him. if this is enough of a hit, he could likely procure some extra $$$ from google to retract his statement. any which way he won. likely making millions with this one BS statement.
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Convenience Store | Troy, NY, USA
(The shop I work in has a TV that plays the news 24/7. It has picked up a story about a judge ruling that the Obama health care bill was unconstitutional.)
Customer: “Well good! It is unconstitutional! You can’t force anyone to get health care if they don’t want it. This country is becoming too socialist! We don’t need any socialist programs!”
Me: *avoiding the topic* “Your total comes to [total].”
Customer: “Alright, here you go.”
(The customer hands me her food stamps card.)
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What, being contained in a building, tear-gassed out side of safe guidelines, incinerated without means of escape and then the evince plowed into the ground. Wow that would be messy.
1) Big corporation + third world = exploitation
2) Big corporation + politics = corruption
3) Police + minorities = minority is guilty of "X while (INSERT_RACE/ORIENTATION)"
4) Religion + anything = ZOMG TEH CROOSADRZ & ZIONISTS R PERSECUTIN PEOPLE
5) Talk of Islamic terrorism + Republicans = Quick hide your Muslims because the ovens are getting fired up
6) Oil prices + car technology + no discernible cash payments to big car companies = obvious sign that the big car companies are getting fellated by big oil.
This guy is off track. He accuses Google as part of a government operative but he blindly walks around the obvious infringrement of privacy that is exploited in the Patriot Act. Oh, if a conservanut it in charge its a good thing but if we see change coming, look out.
This lie is told by the bleeding hearts in college who believe in nothing but just want to belong to something to make them feel better when their true nature comes out more clearly at an older age.
There are PLENTY of young conservatives and old socialists who proof that people pretty much remain the same throughout their lives. Note that it is ALWAYS right wingers who makes this claim as a defence for why they are voting purely on how it costs them even if they know it is wrong. A way to sooth their mind. Tell themselves long enough that this is just the way things are and soon enough they will believe it.
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Note to self: Ignore Glenn Beck. Crazier than a rat in a @(&%!house. The walls are closing in on him. They are all turning funny colors! Now they are turning all funny colors except for the one straight ahead, its bleeding! This looks a lot like when the Simpsons try to explain the 1960's! At some point in the near future, I expect the police finding him with a high caliber sniper rifle in a bell tower, underwear (not ladies underwear, but his own unwashed underwear) pulled over his head, plastic bags over his hands and feet, and between taking alternating rifle shots at birds and people, he alternates between singing broadway show tunes, and 'great marches of the 3rd reich'. He is neither expert in anything, nor is he lucid. He has a job, its a pity that it isn't cleaning public toilets on Pitcairn Island.
It is a LIE that republican leaders are religious zealots! Why, they have sex with boys and cheat on their wives and do everything god forbids as well, no BETTER then any democrat.
They just say that other people shouldn't do it. THAT is a republican!
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But is it art?
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In Beck vs. Google, Google Wins!
In fairness to Beck, Moore, and Gore: None of them claim to be a journalist. Two of them are no more than documentary creators (there's not necessarily an obligation to present objective analysis in a documentary). So your complaint is misguided.
It's "Glenn Beck" - not "Glen Beck." You lose a bit of credibility when you don't bother to even spell his name right.
Well of course one should stay away from Google because facts are damaging to fear-based conspiracy theories.
That is not about fear, it is about anger and outrage at the actions of certain wealthy, rich people in America destroying the things we hold most dear as a country, and have since the days of our founding.
Government funding for media has been something we hold dear since our founding? Really? Shows like Sesame Street make millions of dollars in merchandise and licensing alone, but cutting off the small portion of their budget that comes from tax dollars is stabbing George Washington in the back?
NPR states on one hand how government funding makes up such a small portion of their budget... combined government support is 5.8% of their budget... yet when someone suggests cutting off taxpayer support, their listeners act as if Hitler were back banning newspapers. That isn't hypocritical fearmongering?
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Glen Beck is the main reason I cancelled my Sky contract. I had had enough and I wasn't going to take it anymore. Well that and the fact that SG1 is a complete and inexpensive box set now and you can see police reality shows on FTA television.
Watching Fox News before was a) at least amusing and b) provided an insight into what American conservatives were thinking - well okay apart from Hannity.
But Glen Beck is like Elmer Gantry on crystal meth. He's like that guy in the pub who is an expert on warm beers. I drew the conclusion that he was being a character with the intention of making a lot of money a bit like that other Fox favourite Ann Wotsit the blonde woman who thinks Darwin made a monkey out of her. She seems to be making a sackful of money with her routine as well. If either were really committed to the rubbish they talk they would be over in Iran aiding revolution not doing another book tour.
Oh, and yes like a salivating dog, I cannot resist the temptation to add my t'pence worth to a story with, at the time of writing, 391 comments.
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Slashdot is right wing and most techies are right wing. True geeks are often pretty liberal in their world views so we don't tend to all that right wing about issues like gay marriage but there aren't many true geeks left on slashdot. Willing to bet there are a lot who never compiled their own kernel let alone written one. But why should they when the easily available ones are well, that easily available?
Then you are just not a geek. You might as well ask a mountain climber why he doesn't just take a helicopter to the top of mount everest OR a helicopter pilot why he didn't just hire some sherpa's to pull him to the top.
"Because it is there" and all its variants are understood to any true enthusiast. But there aren't that many around.
What the majority here is is the proffesional IT'er who fits the stereotype of being good with math but not that good with social things. No, we are not talking about geeks here, they are to well adjusted for that. Just people that when you give them the choice between a 300 dollar tax cut and improving life for someone else, they take the 300. And then come up with a reason to defend it.
See the near bitter hatred that comes up when any store threathens the status quo, whether it be a move to a rail network or electric cars. A real geek would want his hands on a electric car if for no other reason then to see how it works. A right winger fears the change. Most people with lack of social skills fear change because they find society hard enough to understand as it is and don't want to have to learn it all over again.
See your own reaction. Glen Beck is making noise and you just want to ignore him because you are unwilling to deal with the social hassle of confronting him. Understandable but also very typical of the non-geek non-nerd IT related guy.
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As a European, I learned about Glenn Beck from Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. These videos were made when Beck had undergone "ass surgery".
http://slashdot.org/poll/1661/With-US-election-so-close-Im-preparing-to-
http://slashdot.org/poll/1202/Who-will-you-vote-for
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/jan/19/20060119-105801-2649r/
So the opposing argument is what... google is pure as new fallen snow and can do no wrong? Have some more koolaid and let me show you this bridge I have for sale. Google is now part of Corporate America as as trustworthy as any other corporation to look out for their bottom line, first and foremost.
As for you folks bashing beck's audience, either you are also part of that audience or you're talking out of your ass and don't really have a clue what Beck talks about... He's done some good work. He was instrumental in getting Communist activist Van Jones out of Obama's inner circle (at least publicly) and has done a good job at publicizing all of the so-called "urban activist" organizations George Soros has his grubby little fingers in. I guess if you're a pinko commie bastard you might be pretty acidic on your views of Beck.
Granted, Beck can be nauseating in his drama at times but as far as his paranoia, he was right about the housing market when Ron Paul was yelling about the sky falling and we DID have an economic melt down. He is turning out to be right about the inflation we are seeing from the Fed going print happy with money. I don't know that he's right about Soro's destroying the USA (though he has Soro's soundbytes saying it.) So yeah, he's quoting some wacky people. This is good stuff to be aware of though.
The same ignorant generalizations can be applied to the left/liberals/progressives, who apparently get their news from comedians.
How about showing a little objectiveness people.
Ok, people, I don't care if you agree with the man or not, but at least have the common decency to spell his fucking name right. A good chunk of the time I hear someone railing against him, they can't spell, where seriously guts their argument (if they even have one, if they're not saying "Glenn Beck is a doodiehead who farted on my mom" or something equally void of intellect).
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Well it depends on how you look at it. And what you consider a conspiracy theorist/nutter. The BBC has a clear agenda of promoting a multicultural society while being run by the oxford elite and including very little of the multicultural society and villifying anyone who dares question this.
Does that count? Probably not to someone who agrees with this point of view. Moron is such a subjective label after all. It always seems to apply to people you disagree with.
Media tends to be owned by someone and that someone doesn't always have to be a single person. But overtime any company or group tends to hire like-minded individuals turning it more and more into a singular voice because you don't hire someone who disagrees with you.
An example? In holland the Labour party PvDA (Partij van de Arbeid) is being called the (Partij van de Allochtonen/Immigrants) because of its soft stance. BUT this is a left leaning WORKER party, didn't they use to be dead against immigrants being used to take jobs away from local people and drive minimum wages down? Wasn't it in fact right wing parties that wanted immigrant labour from Turkey in europes to do jobs the companies didn't want to pay local workers for?
Ah yes! So how can a party AGAINST immigration become labelled as PRO-immigration?
Because over the years the leadership changed. From worker background/union to highly educated bleeding hearts. Some people think union and bleeding hearts are both left wing but that just goes to show the sillyness of trying to represent the whole political spectrum on a single axis. You wouldn't call Stalin a bleeding heart would you?
But at the same time, how comes the dutch VVD (Right wing by dutch standards, commies by US standards) is now leading a government with a so-called strong anti-immigration agenda and even spawned Geert Wilders whose whole agenda is anti-immigration? Did they forget who championed the whole immigration move from Turkey in the first place?
Yes, we got our nutters, but it depends on who you ask as to who is pointed out as the nutter. Geert Wilders and Job Cohen (leader of the PvDA) are BOTH considered insane by their opposition.
Really, we had the queens speech a while ago, a person with her own far reaching audience and a guaranteed tv spot and half the nation hailed her speech and half condemned it.
Glen Beck is a conspiracy theorists in your eyes, not in the eyes of his followers. Conspiracy is in the eye of the beholder. So it makes no sense to ask this question if you want an honest answer.
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If you're doing searches on Google that you wouldn't want your government to know about, then you should be taking some counter-measures (proxies, Tor, only using public locations that can't tie to you directly, etc.). Your paranoia on this should be a function of the repressiveness of your local government. So if you're in China, or Egypt, be very careful when you start searching on political issues...
In the USA, not so much as long as your searches aren't involving criminal or terrorist plots. Beck is taking that too far in the USA, despite the very strong ties between Google management and the Obama administration.
And this would apply to *ANY* search engine. Search engine companies can be forced to comply with local laws. Search accordingly. Protect thyself in anonymity when/if needed.
The most juvenile aspect of this is the utter predictability with which /. responds. All one has to do to work posters into a lather is mention the name of Glenn Beck. Just post "Glenn Beck said X"... if "X" is a Good Thing (tm), then we'll get flooded with comments of how "a broken clock is right twice a day". If "X" is a Bad Thing (tm), we get this thread.
And the funny thing is that this is absolutely no different than what was happening 3-4 years ago under Bush. /.ers want to pretend that rabid anti-"other side"-ism is the sole purview of the "right wing" fanatics.
If I've noticed one thing in my years of reading /. it is that everyone here likes to claim higher intelligence, but are just as susceptible to buying into propaganda, fear-mongering, and group-think as any other demographic.
Do you honestly believe you are less fear driven than the "right-wing"? Less dogmatic than the "religious"? Less deluded by your own sense of superior knowledge than 19th-century men? The fear, dogma, and delusions are about different things, but they are equally as strong.
For every redneck idiot out there, there is a white lab coat idiot out there. For every right-wing nutcase, there is a left-wing nutcase. Every rabid Republican has a counterpart rabid Democrat. The destruction caused by ignorance is only matched by the destruction caused by hubris.
Destruction is destruction and death is death. Does it matter whether it's caused by the religious zealotry of the Inquisition or by the scientific hubris of the A-bomb? Do we measure human suffering by the numbers killed or by the quality of life lost?
Just because we have more information, doesn't make us smarter and it CERTAINLY doesn't change human nature. We think we are "civilized", but we are still subject to the same desires, motivations, strengths, and weaknesses that ruled our ancestors 100/200/500 years ago. We see our nifty gadgets and think that we are SOOO much more advanced. I would rather see rioting in the streets, than to see the millions of
Our hubris would be humorous if it weren't so destructive.
"...are you comfortable with the government partnering, covertly, with media organisations.... so they can bring change that the Washington elites have designed" It sure beats wasting millions of dollars on weapons and wasting innocent soldiers' lives to achieve their goals. In Civilization this is classed as a Cultural Victory, maybe in Civ 6 we will be able to create the Glenn Beck wonder which has the effect on neutralising any other civilization's attempt to gain a cultural victory.
News isn't just about the salt you put into what you serve but in WHAT you serve.
Euronews, riots in Egypt where on near 24/7. Riot in Iran, not at all... agenda? How much focus did YOUR news agency spend on the corruption angle of the Egyptian regime? Depending highly on how tied they are with governments/companies/individuals that thrived on said corruption.
ALL had to report the events but that is the obvious stuff. You can show different angles of a story you have no choice but to report but far more goes on that you can just hide under the guise of "we can only put so much on the front page".
WHY do you think the front page of newspapers has been shrinking? Either because the page itself was shrunk OR because photo's became bigger and bigger together with ad space? Less room for news == more room to drop news you don't want to handle.
So using Fox news as your aggregator is the perfect way for them to influence you. Not by the amount of salt in your diet of news but by controlling your entire news intake.
Well done.
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Also, fun fact: Once an infinite-looping JS popup windows steals focus in Maemo's Hildon desktop, the only way out is a reboot.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
I know your out there.
What he said here didn't sound too terribly insane to me. In fact it is entirely plausible, unlike the majority of what Mr. Beck has to say.
As someone that studies propaganda and marketing the concept of government intervention in the largest search engine in the English speaking world makes perfect sense. It's not only plausible but it's good politics.
If by "good" you mean "effective."
From what I've seen other posters mention, as a work around, you can use the tag for italics.
According to Glen the world has only had 1 year before self destruction for the past 5+ years. No news here.
The most juvenile aspect of this is the utter predictability with which /. responds. All one has to do to work posters into a lather is mention the name of Glenn Beck. Just post "Glenn Beck said X"... if "X" is a Good Thing (tm), then we'll get flooded with comments of how "a broken clock is right twice a day". If "X" is a Bad Thing (tm), we get this thread.
And the funny thing is that this is absolutely no different than what was happening 3-4 years ago under Bush. /.ers want to pretend that rabid anti-"other side"-ism is the sole purview of the "right wing" fanatics.
If I've noticed one thing in my years of reading /. it is that everyone here likes to claim higher intelligence, but are just as susceptible to buying into propaganda, fear-mongering, and group-think as any other demographic.
Do you honestly believe you are less fear driven than the "right-wing"? Less dogmatic than the "religious"? Less deluded by your own sense of superior knowledge than 19th-century men? The fear, dogma, and delusions are about different things, but they are equally as strong.
For every redneck idiot out there, there is a white lab coat idiot out there. For every right-wing nutcase, there is a left-wing nutcase. Every rabid Republican has a counterpart rabid Democrat. The destruction caused by ignorance is only matched by the destruction caused by hubris.
Destruction is destruction and death is death. Does it matter whether it's caused by the religious zealotry of the Inquisition or by the scientific hubris of the A-bomb? Do we measure human suffering by the numbers killed or by the quality of life lost?
Just because we have more information, doesn't make us smarter and it CERTAINLY doesn't change human nature. We think we are "civilized", but we are still subject to the same desires, motivations, strengths, and weaknesses that ruled our ancestors 100/200/500 years ago. We see our nifty gadgets and think that we are SOOO much more advanced.
Our hubris would be humorous if it weren't so destructive.
If he was crazy, he would have said something worthy of a slander suit by now. He hasn't. Crazies don't plan ahead.
His show is very carefully scripted. Crap, yes, but not the work of an actual lunatic.
I suspect the real reason for his upping his ante of crazy in his shows is that his ratings are in freefall. When your entire product is based off of irrational fear, scape-goating and paranoia, one way to maintain that fear and paranoia once it starts to fade through constant exposure is to make more fear and paranoia. I guess the George Soros smear didn't stick and he's looking for a new target and Google probably seemed like a good one to take on.
Gentlemen! You can't fight in here, this is the war room!
And your point is? All this comes from Media Matters who on their own about page says:
"Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media." Emphasis mine.
Hardly a unbiased source of which they make no secret.
Donors include George Soros, one of Beck's prime targets. (They don't publicly list their donors.) They are well known for attacking anyone on the right-wing, namely anyone who is popular in the conservative movement: Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Palin, etc.
There needs to be a Media Matters to correct Media Matters.
If you've never been modded as "flamebait" or "troll," you've never tried to argue a minority viewpoint here!
... Im outta here.
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Guess we're going to get a third season of Conspiracy Theory, with a new host & team of investigators. So, now the show will be called: Conspiracy Theory with Glen Beck
Michael
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...is that Colbert's audience is in on the joke.
Both men are playing characters, but (by and large) only one of their audiences has picked up on that fact.
I remember occasionally hearing Beck's radio show on the weekend several years ago (before he got his nightly program on CNN/HLN). It was mainly stream-of-consciousness ranting and skits, and most of it was not even overtly political. And in his early days at CNN, it was more of the same. But then a funny thing happened. Beck gradually discovered that as he made exploratory leaps into the realm of right-wing paranoia, he generated more buzz (e.g., message boards and link aggregation sites on the Internet) and got higher ratings.
And so in the mid-2000s, the character that Beck plays on TV slowly evolved into what it is today. And much like primeval hominids making the leap from the trees onto the savanna, Beck's move from CNN to Fox News coincided with him turning up the right-wing crazy to 11 and ripping off the knob.
I don't know what Beck's personal politics are. For all we know, he may be a raging liberal in his private life. But he's not dumb -- he knows what side his bread is buttered on, he is acutely aware of the fear, prejudice, and (yes) ignorance of his core audience, he plays them like a piano, and he's laughing all the way to the bank. Under normal circumstances, I'd say more power to him. Unfortunately, he's also fostering an environment of alarming rancor and derangement in American society -- and that's something that he's going to have to live with long after he's gone off the air.
We're going down, in a spiral to the ground
Weird. You might as well keep up with the KKK's tech team too. -k
I heard Glen Beck RAPED and MURDERED a girl in 1990? How does google work?
Beck fears truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHqL7dNujNc
Does anyone have a Chrome extension that blocks any link, webpage, content or anything that contains the words "Glenn Beck" ?
I find it interesting how easy it is to castigate Glen Beck based on short clips, many of which are taken out of context. He's an easy target since his each of his shows focus on a particular idea, the facts and supporting information of which are laid out systematically over the course of the hour. Does he go too far at times? Certainly, but no more than his ideological counterparts. Why shouldn't he be provocative? That's his job. He and O'Reilly are the Number 1 & 2 hosts on cable and have been for quite some time, so to chalk his success up to a large following of "loonies" is weak and mentally lazy.
Where Beck is a master is in his ability to weave a good narrative and bookend it with open-ended questions. While I don't necessarily agree with a lot of what he espouses, I do believe there is merit in his approach. He's very clear and openly tells people not to take his word for it, but to research these things for themselves and form their own opinion. At some point, after repeating this directive over and over, one must look to the viewers rather than the speaker regarding the relative conclusions they come up with.
I find it interesting that his is the #1 most DVR'ed show for the 5pm and 1am EST time slots, which means the number of viewers he has every week are actually much larger than those reported by Neilsen (or whoever reports on these things). Obviously, he's saying some things that are resonating with people. Sure, there are those on the left and right coasts that will dismiss his audience as kooks, tea-baggers, and [insert flaming conservative descriptor here], but I believe it is they who may want to take a second look before passing judgment.
What's even more interesting still is the Left's inability to mimic Beck's (or any of the conservative radio or TV talk show hosts) success. Point of fact - they cannot and never will. The reason is simple: Conservatives have a set of values that are specific and easy to articulate. They don't waver with the political tides of the moment or wax & wain based on the sentiment of the day. It is what it is. You don't have to like it, but please respect it. Progressives/Liberals, on the other hand, come across as wishy-washy, emotional, and completely void of any substance - preferring to appear compassionate, understanding, supportive and in favor of what's right. Hmmm...while that's great and all, you cannot lead or govern or even direct an audience based upon such a haphazard approach. Which is why they usually come across as liberal wingnuts chasing their cause celebre and looking for emotional (rather than logical) support and offering lofty solutions that are usually carried out by leveraging other people's money.
Is what he does theater? Sure, it's television. One only need limit one's self to C-span in order to eliminate the majority of theater they receive with their political commentary. Of course, 99% of Americans never even pause when passing C-span as they flip from sit-com to reality show du jure. For that one would be better served by focusing their ire on teachers unions and the crummy American educational system that has produced our current over-abundance of below-average phucktards who make up a significantly larger percentage of the voting public than they should.
Sorry for the rant, but I think picking on Beck is kinda lame and a little short-sighted. It's like picking on Olberman or your local village idiot. I'd like to see liberals stand for something other than some kind of etherial, touchy-feely solution that makes everyone equal in the process. Take a stand and let the American People judge you for who you are and what you believe in. Beck has capitalized on the fact that belief in hope and change wont make it so. Maybe there's a better solution, and if so, I'd love to hear about it. In the meantime, I'll sit back and wait for the barrage of insults, name-calling and other emotionally charged flames that will undoubtedly be flung my way.
-StopWhiningAlready
Atlanta,GA
Hang on a sec, I thought the right-wing theology was that private industry was the solution to all the world's problems.
Now I'm hearing (third-hand, admittedly, since I really don't want to waste the energy to WatchTFA) that there is some new class of corporation that is in fact in bed with the evil government?
I'm shocked. Next thing you'll hear is that some of the fine, upstanding private companies that are eliminating government waste in the defense industry (aka defense contractors) are not, in fact, providing the best service to our armed forces for the lowest prices, and are influencing political decisions to benefit themselves, rather than to do their patriotic duty and save {money|lives|morals|democracy}.
--Joe
There is some truth to this, but financial self-interest aside, we don't really change that much. As our brains age, not unlike concrete, we become more rigid and less open-minded. Long-term habits, attitudes, and expectations form. We stay the same, stuck in our old ways of thinking and acting --it's the world around us that changes and progresses. There is no spoon.
Ask me about my sig!
Whats a Glen Beck?
Mike Reagan is also on the anti-internet bandwagon, introducing his own email. The reason is
Well, every time you use your email from companies like Google, AOL, Yahoo, Hotmail, Apple and others, you are helping the liberals. These companies are, and will continue, to be huge supporters financially and with technology of those that are hurting our country.
So, I am wondering if a segment of the right is going to dig in their heels and become anti-internet now. He's going so far as to expect people to pay $40 per year for an email address.
"The BBC has a clear agenda of promoting a multicultural society while being run by the oxford elite and including very little of the multicultural society and villifying anyone who dares question this."
If this is true, then that would be an example of someone complaining about something that they have no direct knowledge about. That's not a conspiracy theorist. The definition of a "conspiracy theorist" is someone who comes up with theories about conspiracies. For example, the crazy idea that Google is secretly a tool of the liberal government - an idea not backed by any direct evidence of Google's involvement, but simply by drawing lines between names on a whiteboard. Does anyone in Europe advance conspiracy theories in the way that Beck does, from a well-paid platform?
Libertarians somehow believe that private businesses should be stronger than governments but weaker than individuals.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
"Don't be a martyr -- BE THE ONE WHO GOT AWAY!"
Actually, I consider Al Franken a nutball too. So my nutball designation is hardly reserved exclusively on the right.
Actually, I would argue that the worst nutballs are libertarians, not conservatives or liberals. It's just that conservatives seem more inclined than liberal to court the libertarians when it suits their own ends (i.e., when conservatives aren't the ones in power).
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
If you don't believe it you can go look it up on .... ...
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Yes, mr beck, social networking is governement propaganda. Because it isn't like all those comments are writtten by idependant people, they're written by the government's human botnet
Beck really should go to youtube, as his persona has the same average int as they do (-18)
Over
Have any of you dip shits even looked up any of the so called paranoid schizophrenic topics that Glenn has posted or talked about? Or all you all truly blind lefties Zombies that just eat up any thing that your Uber elitist leftist feed you. Dont think or look for your self just gorge on the trash they dump in to your face.
Look up Google+CIA and Google+NSA
http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/14-01-2010/111657-google_china-0/
Google is, in fact, is a key participant in U.S. military and CIA intelligence operations involving torture; subversion of foreign governments; illegal wars of aggression; and military occupations of countries which have never attacked the U.S. and which have cost hundreds of thousands of lives in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and elsewhere.
To begin with, Google is the supplier of the core search technology for 'Intellipedia, a highly-secured online system where 37,000 U.S. spies and related personnel share information and collaborate on their devious errands.
Agencies such as the so-called 'National Security Agency' have also purchased servers using Google-supplied search technology which processes information gathered by U.S. spies operating all over the planet.
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To end any time you have a government spy agency working with a company that has data on must of the world populous is never good for freedom of speech, Thanks to the Patriot Act.
Rupert Murdoch has already shown previously that he hates Google and Google News scraping content from his sites. I think it's part of an overall strategy at Fox to drive people away from getting their [free] news through Google and into the waiting arms of the Wall Street Journal, Fox News, The Daily, and whatever else is in the Murdoch network. Beck is a crazy nutjob, but I think there's a business/political purpose behind alot of his antics.
Deeds count, not marketing slogans.
Startpage.com is a privacy oriented alternative to Google. It does not retain your personal data and does not record your IP address or use identifying cookies. It also does not share your personal information with third parties.
Startpage also has a proxy service. According to the article below, “With each Startpage search, the word "proxy" appears under each result. If a user clicks "proxy," they may view the result privately.”
Killer way to slay the Google beast
It is also possible to use secure encrypted connections with startpage by using the https://startpage.com/ version of their URL instead of the http://startpage.com/ version. That option would also be good for when using an open WiFi hotspot, where someone with a laptop with packet sniffing software on his laptop might be capturing your unencrypted packets. Google also offers that some option too, by typing https instead of http.
The search results for Startpage do not seem quite as good as when using Google, so perhaps it might be best to just use Startpage when you want more privacy and Google at other times.
I neglected to log in, so I'll repost here. I don't wish to be labeled Anonymous Coward.... I find it interesting how easy it is to castigate Glen Beck based on short clips, many of which are taken out of context. He's an easy target since his each of his shows focus on a particular idea, the facts and supporting information of which are laid out systematically over the course of the hour. Does he go too far at times? Certainly, but no more than his ideological counterparts. Why shouldn't he be provocative? That's his job. He and O'Reilly are the Number 1 & 2 hosts on cable and have been for quite some time, so to chalk his success up to a large following of "loonies" is weak and mentally lazy. Where Beck is a master is in his ability to weave a good narrative and bookend it with open-ended questions. While I don't necessarily agree with a lot of what he espouses, I do believe there is merit in his approach. He's very clear and openly tells people not to take his word for it, but to research these things for themselves and form their own opinion. At some point, after repeating this directive over and over, one must look to the viewers rather than the speaker regarding the relative conclusions they come up with. I find it interesting that his is the #1 most DVR'ed show for the 5pm and 1am EST time slots, which means the number of viewers he has every week are actually much larger than those reported by Neilsen (or whoever reports on these things). Obviously, he's saying some things that are resonating with people. Sure, there are those on the left and right coasts that will dismiss his audience as kooks, tea-baggers, and [insert flaming conservative descriptor here], but I believe it is they who may want to take a second look before passing judgment. What's even more interesting still is the Left's inability to mimic Beck's (or any of the conservative radio or TV talk show hosts) success. Point of fact - they cannot and never will. The reason is simple: Conservatives have a set of values that are specific and easy to articulate. They don't waver with the political tides of the moment or wax & wain based on the sentiment of the day. It is what it is. You don't have to like it, but please respect it. Progressives/Liberals, on the other hand, come across as wishy-washy, emotional, and completely void of any substance - preferring to appear compassionate, understanding, supportive and in favor of what's right. Hmmm...while that's great and all, you cannot lead or govern or even direct an audience based upon such a haphazard approach. Which is why they usually come across as liberal wingnuts chasing their cause celebre and looking for emotional (rather than logical) support and offering lofty solutions that are usually carried out by leveraging other people's money. Is what he does theater? Sure, it's television. One only need limit one's self to C-span in order to eliminate the majority of theater they receive with their political commentary. Of course, 99% of Americans never even pause when passing C-span as they flip from sit-com to reality show du jure. For that one would be better served by focusing their ire on teachers unions and the crummy American educational system that has produced our current over-abundance of below-average phucktards who make up a significantly larger percentage of the voting public than they should. Sorry for the rant, but I think picking on Beck is kinda lame and a little short-sighted. It's like picking on Olberman or your local village idiot. I'd like to see liberals stand for something other than some kind of etherial, touchy-feely solution that makes everyone equal in the process. Take a stand and let the American People judge you for who you are and what you believe in. Beck has capitalized on the fact that belief in hope and change wont make it so. Maybe there's a better solution, and if so, I'd love to hear about it. In the meantime, I'll sit back and wait for the barrage of insults, name-calling and other emotionally charged flames that will undoubtedly be flung my way. -StopWhiningAlready Atlanta,GA PS: would love to know how to change my Slashdot user name. hadn't logged in in so long, I couldn't remember.
"For every redneck idiot out there, there is a white lab coat idiot out there."
I think there are a lot more redneck idiots that white lab coat idiots. Only about 22% of americans have earned a Bachelor's degree and I doubt there are may white lab coat types without a degree.
Ninjas don't carry tic tacs
what I have learned is:
Google was founded by 2 students who came from Russia.
they could afford to buy server farms and communication bandwidth which enabled them to push the established leader of the Internet business from its position.
I know a venture capitalist and he said he would not have put money in that.
Then we had the Google break-in. Short time later Google was more or less thrown out of China. Maybe the intruders found information that there was also a backdoor on Google servers in beijing - accessed from across the big pond?
Which they did not like?
I wish he'd finally have his Lonesome Rhodes moment, and get it over with.
Alex Jones is a right-wing Republican, and a self-described "paleo-conservative".
Speaking for the left, it's totally unfair that you have been convinced that 9-11 conspiracy theorists and advocates of drug legalization are left-wing. Also, his pal and collaborator Ron Paul: extreme right-wing, religious fundamentalist, conservative Republican, not left-wing.
I really wonder what is the ratio of comments here about how loony Glenn Beck and his viewers are, to comments discussing Google's connections to the government and the significance thereof. From a brief reading, I'd guess over 10:1. Many good examples of ad hominem arguments, I'm sure.
...the future crusty old bastards are already drinking the Kool-Aid.
Where a lot of his conspiracy theories seem to originate. I always thought he was an opportunistic demagogue, but I think he eats his own dog food.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Are we talking a water bed or a foam mattress? Over or under the covers?
...This portion of the Glenn Beck program brought to you by Yahoo! Trust all your searches to us, cause we're not Google (and we paid Beck a million to day Google is evil)!
Obviously Bing is the freedom-loving choice, right Glenn?
The moderates are leaving the Church entirely or gradually sliding into the more conservative sects. I'm not sure what's causing it, I just know the membership of "mainline" Protestant denominations is falling in the US, whereas the very conservative wings (Baptists, etc.) are swelling.
Perhaps some of the moderates open their Bible and stumbled upon 1 Kings 18? "How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD [be] God, follow Him: but if Baal, [then] follow him." It should not be hard to understand what this means today: If the Lord is God, follow Him: but if man (or any other idol that has taken part of what belongs to Yahweh), then follow him. They could also have stumbled upon Revelation 3:16: "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
Spelling/grammar nazis welcome (English is not my first language and I am trying to improve my spelling/grammar)
I'm just saying.
As I understand it, the Holy Trinity is kind of like that optical illusion which sometimes looks like a vase, and sometimes like two people looking at each other. The picture doesn't change, but your perception does depending on how you look at it - when you look for people, you see people. The Trinity is three perspectives, not two, but it's the same idea - you look for God, you see things as aspects of God, look for Jesus, you see the same things as aspects of Jesus, and so on for the Holy Spirit.
Details are left as an exercise for the deity.
that's all. this guy just lost all credibility with me and i am ultra-conservative in national/federal politics. however, i'm open to liberalism at the state level.
The GOP has targeted Google for their support of Obama during the campaign. Any company that doesn't kiss up to the GOP suddenly discovers that pro-business doesn't necessarily mean pro-your-business. It's the same thing with George Soros. Soros' manipulation of the currency markets was about as pure an example of capitalism as you can get, but because he has supported Democrats in the past, he's demonized by the GOP.
> I suspect the real reason for his upping his ante of crazy in his shows is that his ratings are in freefall.
Eh? Always be suspicious when someone is presenting bad news about someone they obviously don't like. So lets look at Friday's numbers since I didn't see Monday instantly: Beck's numbers along with the highest number from the competing news channels are reproduced below. Man I'd hate to suck that hard. ;) Seriously, if that is failure I'd like to be one.
Beck: 2.064
O’Reilly: 2.687
Maddow: 989
Blitzer: 750
Grace: 457
No he isn't beating the other three networks' best numbers.... combined. Quite. But he is carrying his 5pm timeslot with numbers greater than the combined 1612 ratings of CNN, CNNH and MSNBC. So lets stay in the reality based world in our discussions, m'kay?
Democrat delenda est
This organization has been caught selectively editing Beck before to slant opinion. Of course lefties here will simply pile-on without digging deeper. That's the lazy thing for people of any ideology to do. On the radio show he and his staff went into detail and immediately said how places like media matters would make ridiculous claims that he was worried about a Google conspiracy, etc.
He makes a case that Google has eyebrow-raising business with the US government. Should this really be considered crazy by the /. crowd? Especially after they were in bed with China for quite a while there? And now we have news that a Google executive was important in the recent Egypt uprising. I kind of like being skeptical of companies in bed with governments regardless of anyone's particular left-or-right philosophy.
GOLD GOOD GOOGLE BAD!
Bzzzt Wrong! The VAST liberal base is Union workers and low income minorities.
Wow. I don't know where to begin. Is the liberal base really VAST, or is that not what you intended to say? I know scores of Liberals, some of whom might self-identify as part of the Democratic base. That "base" would be a small subset of all Liberals.
None of the Liberals I know are Union workers and low income minorities. None are even Union workers OR low income minorities. We are all highly educated, highly skilled, white and blue collar professionals. Perhaps because of the VAST numbers of liberals there are many distinct liberal groups, so it is unlikely that groups will cross paths with any significant frequency.
I could continue to dissect your post for sport, but I don't consider it a reasonable use of my time.
I will point out, however, that you very well illustrate the incoherent rambling of the extreme right that see content presented on Beck's and Limbaugh's programs as having some basis in reality, rather than the farcical and fact-free fabrications that they are.
BTW, there are reasons Fox media and their darlings like Sarah Palin attack the "mainstream media" and the "intellectual elite" on a regular basis. Those groups are fully capable of exposing factual and logical errors of the positions they espouse on a daily basis. Any exposure to reality threatens the power they are holding over their victims (followers).
Performance must be inherent in every aspect of the system. It is not an afterthought, but always thought. - me
> My family and I watch almost every NOVA, NOVA Science NOW, and Nature because of the excellent educational content.
And those are a) popular programs that would have zero problem surviving in a competitive world and b) most episodes are co-produced with entities such as the BBC. So Nature moves from your PBS station to BBC-America and NOVA moves to DIscovery. Sesame Street moves to the highest bidder between Disney and NICK. Explain again why taxpayers are subsidising the Henson media empire and the BBC?
Assuming you can manage to give an explanation for the general case, now explain why we should be borrowing money from China to do it? That gets to the heart of the question. We are broke. We are bleeding red ink from every pore. If the CPB can't be cut as part of a fiscal crisis then there is zero chance to save the Republic because we need to cut a lot closer to the bone than fluff like CPB. We need to be eliminating entire cabinet level trees from the org chart. While it would be folly to incur the long term expenses from cutting and running from the two wars ongoing, we should be talking about downsizing the military. Why are we still in Europe? Hitler ain't coming back and the Red Menace is defeated, eliminating the reason for NATO's existence. If Europe isn't willing to pony up the cash to build enough of a military to keep Russia in line then to hell with them. But like all government operations it continues on long after it's purpose disappeared. And so on.
Democrat delenda est
I'm sorry, wasn't that who you were talking about?
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
He has a point in this case. Google has a long history of working with NSA since it's beginning. It is plausible that since USG spying on their citizens is restricted by law the agencies simply subcontracted dirty work to private entities.
... but it's not just Google. Try finding archives of the news articles concerning the (1997?) WHSO / Secret Service pager intercepts on *any* search engine.
I'd be interested to hear your definition of "nutball" and how libertarianism fits with that definition.
I reluctantly put on my pedant's mask and wizard hat.
Glenn Beck's ratings are still above the competition, but they are ALSO in freefall: down 30% since the beginning of the year (his competitors are suffering, but not as much). Moreover, they're down with the advertiser's gold mine demographic of 25-50-year-olds, 48% 2010 to 2011 year-over-year. Don't get me wrong; he's still very popular, and people declaring right-wing sensationalism "dead" as a result of this are jumping to conclusions. But in the cable news world, this is a massive shakeup. (not sourced; do a fucking search)
Don't make the mistake he makes all the time: intentionally answering the wrong questions with the right answer to enter the land of crazies.
"What did we used to call that? Propaganda." Spoken as if Propaganda is a bad thing, and he's not pushing his own very distinct flavor of Propaganda? It's okay because he's not the government? Wow, I'm just lost as to imagining who would listen to him and nod along, but since he's got a major network slot, I'll bet there's a major slice of the population out there who eats his stuff up.
I know a lot of kooks, but none his flavor so far.
Screw it, I'm willing to take the hit to the overall healthiness of our democracy if we can have one internet for stupid people and one for the rest of us.
I will pay an extra $20 a month to subsidize a separate internet for Glen Beck and the rest of the conservative neo-Luddites.
K.
Google is watching you for the government. So's Twitter, Facebook, Bing, Yahoo and every other site on the Internet. Tell your followers that the only safe thing to do is disconnect their computers, head into their basements and live off of canned foods until the Rapture arrives.
*waits as all the Glen Beck followers abandon the Internet*
*pops a champagne bottle's cork*
PARTY TIME, EVERYONE!!!!
My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
it seems that truth is being lost in all the noise from both sides here. I can't trust media matters as much as I can't trust glenn beck. both are extremist in their views and each has their own take on the "truth".
Understanding is much like a 3-edged-sword. in this: there are always 2 sides and the truth.
'nuff said.
Performance must be inherent in every aspect of the system. It is not an afterthought, but always thought. - me
Either they removed the wrong organ, or didn't fix what is broken, because there is WAY TOO MUCH ass left in that 'tard.
It's amazing to me to read the comments of all the /. readers freak out against GB for "suggesting" Google may have to personnel & Internet muscle to dabble in directing nation(s) political affairs. /.'ers so completely brainwashed that GB is bad vs. stating any facts that Jared Cohen is doing no evil. /. (one of my news sources) got a raging post just by mentioning GB
We live in a completely different world then in the past "Get your news from Walter Cronkite" generation. The individual has to be responsible now where they get their information from and has to be able to look past the spin/entertainment from both sides, I'm saddened to see so many fellow
Keith Olbermann had entertainment value too, and
Glenn Beck is in search of a new bogey man. O'Reilly, yes Fox's O'Reilly, shot down Beck's Caliphate nonsense. No bogey man, no ratings, no show.
Glenn Beck is the mastermind behind his own stupidity and wallows in his own hypocrisy LIVE on TV just like a pig in his own shit. He accuses others of propaganda, yet he is spouting his own idiotic version LIVE on Fox. Incomplete information and fear mongering. It's as if he's trying to dissuade people from using Google just because it's a big company, or he's trying to stifle freedom and control knowledge. Probably both. And to appeal to people's paranoia and suggest some devious relation with the groups/companies mentioned is just adding insult to injury. He says Google is being kicked out of ALL the other countries yet he doesn't say the other countries that Google is being kicked out of are China, India, Turkey, Pakistan etc. (some of the harshest and most unfriendly nations against freedom) Oh sorry, Google isn't really completely banned in China it's very heavily censored. Not sure about India, Pakistan, Turkey or why they would ban Google. Yeah that's right, freedom and knowledge are feared there, not by the people, but by the governments. Glen, why would you not tell the whole story? (or at least enough that the people could make up their own minds) Why use language which "infers" some underhanded devious conspiracy, rather than being clear and concise? Why not be forthcoming and say which countries are are actually banning Google, rather than leaving it up to the viewer to assume you mean "ALL" other countries like you said? Isn't that manipulative on your part? Why not tell your readers WHY Google is actually being banned in these other countries? Why not tell the people that it's really only a handful of countries which typically have reasons to ban information, freedom and knowledge from the people? Why infer at all? That's right? The truth isn't what you're after is it? You're just being manipulative and misleading. Sorry... I misunderstood what you really meant. You've formed an idiotic and elementary propaganda campaign to scare people into distrusting Google by painting them as a big corporate power hungry giant (knowing the whole time a LARGE segment of the general USA population hates corporate greed, resents and fears their power) while you besmirch Google's name implying it is something other than what it is. A search engine that gives you the best results and knowledge you could ask for. What are you afraid of? Are you afraid of losing power when it goes back to the people when they learn you're truly an just an extreme right-wing religious fundamentalist with a massive ego who loves and plays on the entertainment value of the news, all the while you view your own show as a pulpit for your propagandized version of half truths and insinuations which play on people's hatred of greedy power-mongers, and paranoid conspiracies of power grabbing. You're a pretender Glenn. An anti-freedom activist. You are the "media" you pretend to despise. You're nothing more than an info-tainment snake oil salesman. Unfortunately you have the public's ear, and while you profess to care for them you are manipulating the people, herding them like sheep while serving them your incomplete and extremely biased propaganda-poisoned Koolaid. You're a traitor to the human revolution, and an enemy of freedom and knowledge. Anyone who is an enemy of freedom, should be an enemy of the people.
Glenn Beck is a government shill pretending to be anti-government. Check out his rolling over on FEMA camps and using as his expert guest the very same Popular Mechanics mouthpiece that gave the worthless purported rebuttal of all 911 truth positions years ago. The man has no credibility even with those of us who agree the government is up to a ton of no good. Beck is an opportunistic hypocrite who will do anything for a buck and a pat on the head from government. The day I take his word on anything is the day I get a permanent medical marijuana license, a trailer in the middle of nowhere and do my damnedest to stay well drugged for the rest of my life. For it would mean my mind had obviously deteriorated beyond hope of recovery.
Cory Doctorow, Scroogled, reprinted short story, October 2007 issue of Radar magazine. Excerpt: Greg landed at San Francisco International Airport at 8 p.m., but by the time he'd made it to the front of the customs line, it was after midnight. [....] Four hours later in the customs line, he'd slid from god back to man. His slight buzz had worn off, sweat ran down the crack of his ass, and his shoulders and neck were so tense his upper back felt like a tennis racket. The batteries on his iPod had long since died, leaving him with nothing to do except eavesdrop on the middle-age couple ahead of him. "The marvels of modern technology," said the woman, shrugging at a nearby sign: Immigration — Powered by Google.
First intelligent thing I've heard him say!
I was quite dismayed during the elections by how buddy-buddy our Chief Executive was with the large information stores on the Internet. Not a good thing. When Obama got elected, that was the day I quit using Google. I don't want to deal with a company that has even a hint of the possibility of using my personal data to *directly* (it's bad enough everyone else does it indirectly) influence the President directly for their own gain.
If you are making any of this about Democrat vs Republican then you are not taking seriously the argument. There needs to be those on both sides posing their extreme ideas for those of us in the middle to be forced to find the truth. People need to be watching our government and our representatives...not because they are evil or plotting our destruction, but because that is our job. There has never been a government in history that was not set on gaining all of the power they could. The same is true for political parties. This is why we have a two party system...for balance. When the country swings to far right, the left forces the correction. When the country swings too far to the left, the right forces the correction. This is the balance of power that the Constitution tries to provide. Leave the religious references out and drop the communist talk. Instead listen to both sides and think for yourself, objectively and honestly.
For those of you that do not believe that Google might be politically driven, I remind you that they were datamining people's wirelss routers to gather information about them and they did have a vocal political activist working in Egypt when their demonstrations began. Don't make it complicated...look at the facts and ask yourself...why are they involved...answer is easy...money and power.
Glenn Beck is the personal front man for stupidity on a national scale. He is and always was a complete idiot. His personal form of patriotism is false and you’d have to be a brainless, half educated, red necked idiot to believe anything this fool says. Butthat pretty well describes the tea party and the GOP. This closet homosexual never went to college and never knew anything about World History, American History, World Religions or the US Constitution. He is simply a mocking bird for the twisted views of the John Birch Society and people need to wake up to the fact that Glenn Beck is just another uneducated charlatan who does not possess a single ounce of journalistic integrity. He is definitely not a conservative. In short, he is just another opinion pusher which is why he blends in so well with the bigots on Fox News Network. This self important racist climbed in bed with Satan a very long time ago as lies, half truths, fear and hate are his only products that he has for sale and he is making big money off of impressionable fools who love being told what to think. Glenn Beck is simply a product of mormon cult theology that he mixes with cherry picked parts of Catholicism, New Age Religions and his personal core as a washed up, dry alcoholic. This makes Glenn Beck one very screwed up moron who sold his soul to the lowest common denominator of personal stupidity. And for the recordthe religion of Islam has far more in common with Christianity than the mormon cult. Beck consistently demonstrates all the unstable behaviors of a dry alcoholic which include grandiosity, judgmentalism, intolerance, impulsivity, ADD, indecisiveness and blindness to truth. In short, Beck, Limbaugh, O Reilly, Hannity, Palin, O Donnell, Coulter and others like them who think they are conservative are all guilty of perverting truth, history, facts, religion and the US Constitution when they open their big mouths. They are all idiots who live in and speak to some alternate reality of stupid red necks that feed off of fear & hate mongering while being fed a steady dose of extreme right wing lies.
I can summarize my take on libertarianism and why it's laughably misguided with a solid nerd reference here: the TV show "Firefly." That show, IMHO, represents the purest representation of a libertarian utopia (or, more accurately, dystopia) that you're going to find. The rich live like kings, the poor wallow in the dirt, and a middle class is all but non-existent. But hey, they're FREE right, with no pesky government telling the outer worlds what to do? The powerful have the freedom to own slaves, lord over everyone else like gods, and pretty much do whatever they want to. The poor have the freedom to die. Hell, the rich even got the dumbass poor to FIGHT for it in a war. The REAL motto for the browncoats should have been "Fight for the right for the rich to exploit and abuse you all they want, with no government to stand in their way!"
Every libertarian dreamer always thinks that, in a world with no government, they'll be one of the 1% that will have everything. It never occurs to them that they'll be one of the shit-outta-luck 99% that have no power, no money, no anything.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
I don't know. So it must be those dirty community lovers who are running things. Why does anyone with even a quarter of a brain read past I don't know?
I have to say that but, over the last few years, I have been getting progressively more and more concerned about Google in a way that I was never concerned about Microsoft 10-12 years ago. Google is not a good corporate citizen. They have acquiesced to numerous demands by foreign governments in order to get access to their markets. If you're concerned about government invading your privacy - imagine them with Google as a partner. I have included the Bing toolbar and try to use it. And I never use Chrome except to check to see if my coding renders well. Then again I don't use Facebook much because they don't respect individual privacy either.
Free Minds, Free Bodies, Free Markets
He's eliminating all almost all news networks except FOX as possible shills. How funny is that?
Mr. Beck no only are you a good laugh but seriously I am wondering if the GOVT is spiking your morning coffee with LSD?
Maybe Obama Care is taking CARE of business.
Next we are not to use toilet paper being the govt has nano-bots in it that will creep up your hole and infect your brain!
I could agree with everything else but am not financially conservative, which alone would not be a problem for me but I do dislike people who "dislike welfare spending". Well, coming from a country with proper health care system this is not an issue for me personally (yet anyway, what I'm afraid of is the increasing aping of america as companies sell themselves and people with american business morals lobby their ways) and I feel sad for america and good about my country when it comes to health care - what you call werfare spending is what I have grown to consider the right way - but for many americans our way are alien, free health care, free education system, etc. seem to make many americans mumble about communism :D
Naturally, I don't cherish an absurd thought that I am the enbodiment of rationalism and but I have to trust my rationality and believe that anyone thought rationally about the role of government would of course agree - but if I were fundamentally certain of that then I would not be a person who is willing to listen other peoples arguments and sometimes end up changing his views (as an example I used to be a communist but nowdays would call myself left-wing democrat - though many americans would call what that means in Finland probably as "far-lef communists, lol. It amuses me how ignorant one has to be to actually know that little about communism and have such strong beliefs about it - of course strong beliefs are often accompanied by little actual knowledge).
In capitalist USA corporations control the government.
Here's what Beck really meant: Only use Google if you're searching for porn. Or is that too "Bi"partisan for him to say???
Interesting. There are two major issues with your post.
First: You conflate Libertarianism and Anarchism. Anarchists desire "no government", Libertarians desire a government limited to narrow, specifically defined duties (i.e. the Night Watchman state... wiki it) and doesn't interfere in other aspects of life.
Second: The government in Firefly was the Alliance government, so all the ills you see in the show are the product of a powerful central government, not the ills of a Libertarian one. A powerful centralized government, more than anything else, is concerned first and foremost with the preservation of its central control. Such a governmental system is fundamentally flawed and is doomed to failure, since you cannot control all the people and attempting to do so overburdens the system. In the overburdened state, the central government is forced to maximize "order" (i.e. control) in the most populous regions, leaving the sparsely populated areas to suffer under various forms of localized despotism. That is what you are seeing in Firefly. That is what happened in Communist Russia.
Of course the central planets had their own form of despotism. They were "civilized", which is double-speak for pacified and helpless.
I would much rather live on an outer planet than suffer under the tyranny of the caretaker (http://www.americanfreemen.org/tyrannyofthecaretaker)... granted, there is the chance that I'd end up on a tyrannical outer planet, but I'd take that gamble over the certainty of living in tyranny on an inner planet.