So you think that once they get to regulate something that once they get the stuff they want done they will just sit back and be content? I have personally never seen that happen. Have you? What I have seen is that government organizations do their utmost to expand their powers in ways we would never expect. Have you seen differently?
If you can not throw your car into neutral and instead call 911 cause your car accelerator is stuck.... I do not care if you were a cop. If that kills you then you have to die. I am fucking tired of cold coffee, over cooked burgers, 60 warning labels on everything. I am tired of of society catering to the lowest common denominator. No good will come of it. None.
Chills down my leg. Are you really suggesting that we can only come up with a few left wing distortions? Do you really think that the left gives more of a shit about you than the right? Politicians only want more power.
What I am pointing out is that when the government starts regulating the gas you breath out it is very fucking bad. You say these things can never happen. When the government started the tax on fully automatic machine guns everyone thought, Ok government should be given some say on weapons. If you had told them then that every gun purchase would need to be approved by the government if they passed this they would have called you a crazy idiot. When the government started protecting our food safety had you told them that federal agents would raid people with guns drawn for selling unpasteurized milk you would have been called a nut job. When they went off the gold standard had you told them the government would just print money like it was paper you would have been laughed at. When the commerce clause was put into the constitution had you told the farmers of that document that it would be used as the justification for everything... Well they might have believed you and re wrote it. When the government gets power in an area it only expands it. Slowly, perpetually. It never gives back power. Never.
I'm in two minds, because the rumours highlighted in the summary specifically seem orientated toward creating panic and unrest within a large population - how do you deal with that while maintaining free speech?
Rumors of Chemtrails, Black Helicopters, Secret societies that run our lives, and all the rest happen all the time. No need to over react.
I am sure that only Fox has problems with "coloring" the news. It shows that you are nothing but a partisan shill. I really think that people like you should just tattoo your forehead with "I believe only in what MSNBC tells me." It is not just Fox and "Talk Radio". It is all of them dipshit. Did you not notice that just last week MSNBC purposefully edited a 911 tape so that it would say what they wanted it to say? You are useless at best.
You mean forced greedy credit card companies to reveal themselves for what they are and to play by a clearer set of rules when dealing with consumers? And why are you using credit cards anyway? Problem #2 with America: reliance on credit cards (only behind Problem #1: overweight).
You of course mean the American people. Because the American government should be spending more of its credit card money on free college and free EBT cards and free healthcare.
Why is it that everything is the responsibility of society to pay for? Courteous is one thing. Enabling is another. We spend tons of cash paying farmers not to grow crops. We spend even more making sure that people can afford to buy food. We allow people to steal money from the government through the banks with "loan modifications". We have people in the street demanding more free shit is their right. Teachers that do not have to teach, union workers that get to be paid for not working. We vote in politicians that lie to us over and over again. Society my friend is ruining people. Ruining neighborhoods, ruining personal responsibility. Society has failed. Has failed and is continuing to move in the direction of their failure.
What I am saying is that space travel is important. More important than a 1 degree difference in the 20 degree swing we are going to see anyway. Why start with extra solar planets? There is water on the moon. We have Mars that we can begin to terraform at some point. That way we have a whole new planet in a few thousand years. If you want to look long term survival of the human race you need to move off planet. Need to, When the need comes it is too late to start trying. The other part of my argument is about fossil fuels. It is stupid to talk of halting the use of fossil fuels when we have no replacement. Nothing at this point is even close.
I really do not want to point this out but... At what point do we stop designing the world for the deaf and the blind. Really. Blind people should not be on the road. Stupid people should not be warned about hair dryers and showers. Uncoordinated people ordering hot coffee might get burned. Can we please stop designing to the lowest common denominator?
Possibly. But I am just here to tell you that killing off society because of the air you breath out is crazy. Once you allow the US government the ability to regulate CO2 you will have fucked yourself.
Fuck rate lets look at actual climate history. During Ice ages we are fucked. During really warm periods we are fucked. All without man made help. How much more fucked can we get. Need enclaves of humanity all over the galaxy. Then we are safe. Till then anything bad happens and as a race we are fucked.
Ok then. Lets just stop. Oh. Umm wait. Solar and Wind do not have the ability to make up for the fossil fuels? Ok then Nuclear will save us. Oh. Umm. Hippies hate the nuke power plants as well and they just will never get built? Ok. Lets just cut our consumption by 80%. So to start with China and the third world will have to stop expanding. Then for the US and Europe. Halt production of Aluminum, Kill Air Conditioners, TVs, Electric cars, and so on. If we can keep hospitals and communications up we are good. Right?
You have a problem with the "Climate Change is the Norm." statement. Really? That is one of the things you call out from the site? You do of course realize that the earth has been and will be both much cooler and much warmer than it is now. Right? Call out all the crap you want. I don't care. But seriously you do need to at least keep in mind the earths frequent climate changes before man ever arrived on scene.
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They also got the age of the B-52's wrong.
They are 36 years old.
Al Gore was making comments on something he had no training in.
So you think that once they get to regulate something that once they get the stuff they want done they will just sit back and be content?
I have personally never seen that happen.
Have you?
What I have seen is that government organizations do their utmost to expand their powers in ways we would never expect.
Have you seen differently?
The role of government is precisely to do the things that only government can do.
If you can not throw your car into neutral and instead call 911 cause your car accelerator is stuck....
I do not care if you were a cop. If that kills you then you have to die.
I am fucking tired of cold coffee, over cooked burgers, 60 warning labels on everything.
I am tired of of society catering to the lowest common denominator. No good will come of it. None.
And more of them.
Chills down my leg.
Are you really suggesting that we can only come up with a few left wing distortions?
Do you really think that the left gives more of a shit about you than the right?
Politicians only want more power.
What I am pointing out is that when the government starts regulating the gas you breath out it is very fucking bad. ... Well they might have believed you and re wrote it.
You say these things can never happen.
When the government started the tax on fully automatic machine guns everyone thought, Ok government should be given some say on weapons.
If you had told them then that every gun purchase would need to be approved by the government if they passed this they would have called you a crazy idiot.
When the government started protecting our food safety had you told them that federal agents would raid people with guns drawn for selling unpasteurized milk you would have been called a nut job.
When they went off the gold standard had you told them the government would just print money like it was paper you would have been laughed at.
When the commerce clause was put into the constitution had you told the farmers of that document that it would be used as the justification for everything
When the government gets power in an area it only expands it. Slowly, perpetually. It never gives back power. Never.
I'm in two minds, because the rumours highlighted in the summary specifically seem orientated toward creating panic and unrest within a large population - how do you deal with that while maintaining free speech?
Rumors of Chemtrails, Black Helicopters, Secret societies that run our lives, and all the rest happen all the time.
No need to over react.
I am sure that only Fox has problems with "coloring" the news.
It shows that you are nothing but a partisan shill.
I really think that people like you should just tattoo your forehead with "I believe only in what MSNBC tells me."
It is not just Fox and "Talk Radio". It is all of them dipshit.
Did you not notice that just last week MSNBC purposefully edited a 911 tape so that it would say what they wanted it to say?
You are useless at best.
Let us just keep making stuff more expensive and harder to get so that the stupidest people in society can continue to pass on their genes.
Been one.
You mean forced greedy credit card companies to reveal themselves for what they are and to play by a clearer set of rules when dealing with consumers? And why are you using credit cards anyway? Problem #2 with America: reliance on credit cards (only behind Problem #1: overweight).
You of course mean the American people.
Because the American government should be spending more of its credit card money on free college and free EBT cards and free healthcare.
Why is it that everything is the responsibility of society to pay for?
Courteous is one thing. Enabling is another.
We spend tons of cash paying farmers not to grow crops.
We spend even more making sure that people can afford to buy food.
We allow people to steal money from the government through the banks with "loan modifications".
We have people in the street demanding more free shit is their right.
Teachers that do not have to teach, union workers that get to be paid for not working.
We vote in politicians that lie to us over and over again.
Society my friend is ruining people. Ruining neighborhoods, ruining personal responsibility.
Society has failed. Has failed and is continuing to move in the direction of their failure.
What I am saying is that space travel is important.
More important than a 1 degree difference in the 20 degree swing we are going to see anyway.
Why start with extra solar planets? There is water on the moon.
We have Mars that we can begin to terraform at some point. That way we have a whole new planet in a few thousand years.
If you want to look long term survival of the human race you need to move off planet. Need to,
When the need comes it is too late to start trying.
The other part of my argument is about fossil fuels. It is stupid to talk of halting the use of fossil fuels when we have no replacement.
Nothing at this point is even close.
I really do not want to point this out but...
At what point do we stop designing the world for the deaf and the blind.
Really.
Blind people should not be on the road.
Stupid people should not be warned about hair dryers and showers.
Uncoordinated people ordering hot coffee might get burned.
Can we please stop designing to the lowest common denominator?
Possibly.
But I am just here to tell you that killing off society because of the air you breath out is crazy.
Once you allow the US government the ability to regulate CO2 you will have fucked yourself.
Fuck rate lets look at actual climate history.
During Ice ages we are fucked.
During really warm periods we are fucked.
All without man made help.
How much more fucked can we get.
Need enclaves of humanity all over the galaxy. Then we are safe.
Till then anything bad happens and as a race we are fucked.
Ok then. Lets just stop.
Oh. Umm wait. Solar and Wind do not have the ability to make up for the fossil fuels?
Ok then Nuclear will save us.
Oh. Umm. Hippies hate the nuke power plants as well and they just will never get built?
Ok. Lets just cut our consumption by 80%.
So to start with China and the third world will have to stop expanding.
Then for the US and Europe.
Halt production of Aluminum, Kill Air Conditioners, TVs, Electric cars, and so on.
If we can keep hospitals and communications up we are good. Right?
They did not say Honeywell was a patent troll. They said they were worse than one.
Just because people are stupid does not change the facts.
What percentage of the public believes that change happens all the time?
You have a problem with the "Climate Change is the Norm." statement.
Really? That is one of the things you call out from the site?
You do of course realize that the earth has been and will be both much cooler and much warmer than it is now. Right?
Call out all the crap you want. I don't care. But seriously you do need to at least keep in mind the earths frequent climate changes before man ever arrived on scene.
How long till the EPA needs to give you a license to have a third child?