We in the US may not *like* it, but their laws are their laws.
We shouldn't do business with them. More specifically, Microsoft should not, where there is a conflict between respect for basic human rights as enumerated in the Constitution of the United States, and "local laws". Especially in the case of a weblog site, which deals in words and ideas and where freedom of speech is very relevant to the purpose of the site.
If the law of "might makes right" is so all-pervasive, how do you explain the civil rights movement in the US? Why was India given her independence by England? Why do cars stop for pedestrians?
but you do see how it sort of follows from what you did say, right? about MS's first responsibility being to its shareholders, to maximize profit? If they can maximize profit by practicing censorship, why not by other things that are against US law too? Maybe they could run opium into China...
The basic laws haven't been overturned yet. The Bill of Rights, etc. I can still get on here and say the government is a piece of shit and advocate violent revolution. But I can't in China? MS should not allow the Chinese government to push them around no matter how much money is involved.
So if they had to pay bribes to Chinese officials to get business, that would be okay? If they had to smuggle in white slavegirls, would that be okay? What you're describing is a very mercantilist, mercenary, conscience-less philosophy of doing business. I don't support it, and I don't think Microsoft should.
And you're going to support that "natural law" till your dying breath aren't you? Maybe go to war to enforce it? Maybe just go outside and beat up some weaklings, just to prove that it still holds?
Look up "Null Hypothesis" in your nearest statistics textbook.
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Why is that? One reason might be that the inflated price causes economic hardship quicker. And the fact that you have to associate with criminals to get illegal drugs leads to you being influenced by their way of thinking. Sell the drugs over the counter, with a price that reflected their cost of production (a lot of drugs grow on trees, literally) and redo those studies.
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Compare the inflated prices for viewing a website in countries where that is prohibited, to the inflated prices for said chemicals; and ponder how much economic benefit would accrue from legalization (increased tax revenue, decreased law enforcement expenditures, lower crime...).
Man I was in the cs lab the other day, and there was a total whore sitting behind me. Talking loudly, pressing some guy sitting next to her for help with her java, saying "I'd sleep with anyone for As", swearing at her program (reading off screen - "How much do you want to gamble?" "None of your business, motherfucker!"), cutely reading her code outloud ("System...out...print...line"). I suppose it's sort of a good thing she's exposing herself to programming though.
I think a large part of the reason we don't use our intelligence to its full potential is emotions. Emotions commonly overrule logic, and are often based on very primitive biological urges. In my opinion, emotions are an obsolete evolutionary survival strategy.
If we can program computers to be logical and reasonable without having to include emotions (or perhaps they could simulate them for our amusement/pleasure, but not be ruled by them to the extent we are), they will be capable of far more than we are...
We in the US may not *like* it, but their laws are their laws.
We shouldn't do business with them. More specifically, Microsoft should not, where there is a conflict between respect for basic human rights as enumerated in the Constitution of the United States, and "local laws". Especially in the case of a weblog site, which deals in words and ideas and where freedom of speech is very relevant to the purpose of the site.
If the law of "might makes right" is so all-pervasive, how do you explain the civil rights movement in the US? Why was India given her independence by England? Why do cars stop for pedestrians?
but you do see how it sort of follows from what you did say, right? about MS's first responsibility being to its shareholders, to maximize profit? If they can maximize profit by practicing censorship, why not by other things that are against US law too? Maybe they could run opium into China...
The basic laws haven't been overturned yet. The Bill of Rights, etc. I can still get on here and say the government is a piece of shit and advocate violent revolution. But I can't in China? MS should not allow the Chinese government to push them around no matter how much money is involved.
ry to do everything they can to do business there
So if they had to pay bribes to Chinese officials to get business, that would be okay? If they had to smuggle in white slavegirls, would that be okay? What you're describing is a very mercantilist, mercenary, conscience-less philosophy of doing business. I don't support it, and I don't think Microsoft should.
And you're going to support that "natural law" till your dying breath aren't you? Maybe go to war to enforce it? Maybe just go outside and beat up some weaklings, just to prove that it still holds?
I bet they're telling them their Intellectual Property practices are wrong. It's all and only about money.
So what you're saying is, Money > Freedom. How more un-American can you get?
FLOSS...oh wait.
and there's no community possible on the web, none at all, absolutely.
Look up "Null Hypothesis" in your nearest statistics textbook.
Why is that? One reason might be that the inflated price causes economic hardship quicker. And the fact that you have to associate with criminals to get illegal drugs leads to you being influenced by their way of thinking. Sell the drugs over the counter, with a price that reflected their cost of production (a lot of drugs grow on trees, literally) and redo those studies.
Compare the inflated prices for viewing a website in countries where that is prohibited, to the inflated prices for said chemicals; and ponder how much economic benefit would accrue from legalization (increased tax revenue, decreased law enforcement expenditures, lower crime...).
Man I was in the cs lab the other day, and there was a total whore sitting behind me. Talking loudly, pressing some guy sitting next to her for help with her java, saying "I'd sleep with anyone for As", swearing at her program (reading off screen - "How much do you want to gamble?" "None of your business, motherfucker!"), cutely reading her code outloud ("System...out...print...line"). I suppose it's sort of a good thing she's exposing herself to programming though.
beat, heheh
What?
If you're ever in Seattle good sir, i counsel you to avoid raquel the crackwhore.
There are a lot of crackheads around there. Also if you run into a ho named raquel, avoid her at all costs.
I don't get the fight between Open Sourcers and Free Software advocates. Isn't it obvious, the software is better BECAUSE it's free?
There's a reason humans evolved the concept of freedom and justice: because it works better than the law of the jungle.
So you've just named some predictions about love that can be tested to determine if that other guy's parents really love him or not.
getting our hopes up so high then just dashing them.
You overlook the fact that the Civil War was fought largely by whites against whites. Blacks didn't take their freedom by force.
I think a large part of the reason we don't use our intelligence to its full potential is emotions. Emotions commonly overrule logic, and are often based on very primitive biological urges. In my opinion, emotions are an obsolete evolutionary survival strategy.
If we can program computers to be logical and reasonable without having to include emotions (or perhaps they could simulate them for our amusement/pleasure, but not be ruled by them to the extent we are), they will be capable of far more than we are...
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And like India got its independence with Gandhi's policies...