They fixed up the user interface, which, by all accounts, was very slow. That, along with nettlesome security, needed to be addressed, especially for consumers and corporate minions whose only real concerns about an OS are that it look nice, be responsive to interaction, and not interfere.
On the other hand, this is nothing but a service pack fix to Vista. M$ should give every Vista licensee a free upgrade to Win 7.
Meanwhile, I'll stay on XP for as long as I can, and my next laptop will likely run some form of Windows only in a virtual machine.
Why are new drivers required for Windows 7? I realize M$ changed something, but what? I assume M$ publishes an API for each device class, and manufacturers write drivers to the API. Is that not the case? Is M$ changing the API's with each release? If so, why? Why can't they provide legacy support for at least one previous version API, even with somewhat reduced performance?
Seriously, I can't understand why this is such an issue, especially when Windows 7 seems more like a service pack for Vista.
Yeah, that's what I heard some time ago. I'm focused on Java now, but when I did.NET (2003), I didn't like the event driven Web model. I prefer Struts, but I also like the competition in the Java world.
Overall, I thought.NET was a big step forward for M$, but I'm wondering if it really gaining traction...
Does anyone out there using.NET have a comment about how it is shaping up? Has MS included MVC support for ASP.NET? What types of apps are people doing?
Get a cell phone with a text edit capability. I have a Windows Mobile phone (useful but annoying); with it, I can open an app and leave it open in the background.
I agree with the sentiment, if not all the details. I started procedural, learned OO and Web tech at the same time. The problem with current Web tech is that it is evolved, not intelligently designed (mod me "troll"). I did a lot of programming in RPG, which had the same problem.
To me, the ideal solution would be to take what we have now and reinvent it. HTML forms need much more rich controls. Javascript has a lot of rough edges; we really need a clean scripting language and a full development language that inter-operate. Of course, that will never happen. Meanwhile, I'm noticing how much Swing has improved and the possibilities of JNLP...
is that this is not an IT issue. IT can help implement the solution, but someone at the "C" level has to consider this serious enough to create and enforce policies.
We kill ourselves politically by even bringing up these sorts of issues (controlling what Sales, etc., can do with information), and that just makes the problem worse. We also make our lives miserable when the PHB's afflict us for our presumption.
The best thing for you to do is implement sound security within the limits of your position, and then let it go. Unless you are the CIO, there is nothing you can do about this.
Looking back from the tail end of a career, I should have joined an OSS project or found something else worthwhile for personal satisfaction.
That being said, the same management is in a sealed off part of the building with high security locks and a separate parking area with a security guard and barbed wire fencing. I wonder what they know that they don't want us to know.
but, the intention of residential Internet service is mainly to allow people to download content. The ISP's can't afford to support a server site at residential rates, and more residential users can't afford business type service.
For the *few* that want to run true server sites from their residences, go out and buy it. No one is stopping you.
As far as Japan is concerned, isn't the limit around 37m upload rate continuously? The cap has to be targeted at (ab)users who are running server farms. Why is this even news?
As someone who HAS programmed in.NET and who is a Java developer, my first comment is that people who haven't and aren't shouldn't be touting the merits of languages they know little about.
Second, C# does have areas where it is superior to Java, but I certainly won't say C# is superior. Here's my bottom line: For Windows only software, use.NET, and C# has definite advantages as a.NET language. For multi-platforms, including Windows, use Java.
Bottom line, both environments and languages are strong and equivalent in many ways.
This just in... Steve Balmer has just announced his imminent retirement as CEO of Microsoft. Balmer stated that he wanted to spend more time with his family and to pursue personal interests.
In related news, Microsoft announced that it will immediately make all its products Open Source...
And now, back to reality.
Seven seconds to decide which hand to use to push a button? I would have already had to have decided to click the link to this article before it appeared on my screen.
I spent a year as development supervisor leading the transition to.NET back in 2003. In my posting, I was a bit negative about it, only to placate the hard-core M$ haters (I don't like M$ in general, either). But, after using Java first, I found.NET to be well thought out. As you said, it had a good template to follow. I haven't used it for years, so I can't make any definitive statements, but everything I've seen is that it is solid and improving. They are even bringing MVC to ASP.NET! Best wishes with your development career. Based on job postings, C# programmers won't be going without work anytime soon...
What's the point? Is this any different from Java? Or is this simply a matter of throwing out some numbers and trashing M$? One poster made a good point:.NET and Java (my preferred environment) are both big and complex. On the other hand, at least in Java, an hour's research is all that's required to have a good enough grasp of file operations to write solid code. I suspect the same is true of NOT YET, er,.NYET, er, that M$ environment. On the other hand, I cringe when I hear about a Web app language doing SQL without prepared statements (that was today, BTW). Suddenly, all apostrophes are forbidden to the people entering data. Small, lightweight environments are great for small, lightweight applications. Java, and yes,.NET are necessary for large, complex applications.
Is.NET any good, compared to other full-featured environments? I don't know, but that silly article certainly didn't contribute anything useful...
Whether I agree with it or not, Apple's direction is to completely control their offerings. From what I see, they do this to maintain the best possible user experience they can deliver. If they allow their users, who tend to be non-technical, to download anything from anywhere, then they (feel that they) become responsible for any degradation in the user experience. Whether or not that is reasonable is a matter of opinion. Whether or not they have the right to do that is not.
As far as Java goes, I'm yet another Java developer. I love Java apps. They need no installer; they bypass the corporate security monitor on my workstation. They would also bypass any controls Apple uses to protect the user experience on the iPhone.
I don't own an iPhone, and I probably never will. It's not as if I don't have options.
With everyone flunking Acid-2, I had to wonder if there was any point to the test. Now, with Webkit closing in on perfection, that pushes everyone to improve. I'm honestly amazed that quality and full compliance with standards actually matters to anyone. Long live OSS!
In keeping with this theme, I suggest that the IE8 name be dropped in favor of something to reflect just how up-to-date this new browser is. How about IE 2005?
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On the other hand, this is nothing but a service pack fix to Vista. M$ should give every Vista licensee a free upgrade to Win 7.
Meanwhile, I'll stay on XP for as long as I can, and my next laptop will likely run some form of Windows only in a virtual machine.
Why are new drivers required for Windows 7? I realize M$ changed something, but what? I assume M$ publishes an API for each device class, and manufacturers write drivers to the API. Is that not the case? Is M$ changing the API's with each release? If so, why? Why can't they provide legacy support for at least one previous version API, even with somewhat reduced performance? Seriously, I can't understand why this is such an issue, especially when Windows 7 seems more like a service pack for Vista.
As a Pascal developer, I'm deeply offended!
Yeah, that's what I heard some time ago. I'm focused on Java now, but when I did .NET (2003), I didn't like the event driven Web model. I prefer Struts, but I also like the competition in the Java world.
Overall, I thought .NET was a big step forward for M$, but I'm wondering if it really gaining traction...
Does anyone out there using .NET have a comment about how it is shaping up? Has MS included MVC support for ASP.NET? What types of apps are people doing?
The first 5 for funny I've seen in a couple days! Good catch...
Have your brother run Ubuntu and run XP in a virtual machine. I do that at home with the family Mac and Napster (keeps my kid satisfied and legal).
I'm a big believer that people are entirely rational and that their conclusions are based on facts, and no study is going to persuade me otherwise!
Get a cell phone with a text edit capability. I have a Windows Mobile phone (useful but annoying); with it, I can open an app and leave it open in the background.
To me, the ideal solution would be to take what we have now and reinvent it. HTML forms need much more rich controls. Javascript has a lot of rough edges; we really need a clean scripting language and a full development language that inter-operate. Of course, that will never happen. Meanwhile, I'm noticing how much Swing has improved and the possibilities of JNLP...
is that this is not an IT issue. IT can help implement the solution, but someone at the "C" level has to consider this serious enough to create and enforce policies. We kill ourselves politically by even bringing up these sorts of issues (controlling what Sales, etc., can do with information), and that just makes the problem worse. We also make our lives miserable when the PHB's afflict us for our presumption. The best thing for you to do is implement sound security within the limits of your position, and then let it go. Unless you are the CIO, there is nothing you can do about this. Looking back from the tail end of a career, I should have joined an OSS project or found something else worthwhile for personal satisfaction.
In keeping with the theme, I thought I'd add some provocation...
Cheap shots that start flame wars don't belong on \.? Why else would anyone bother to read the posts?
That being said, the same management is in a sealed off part of the building with high security locks and a separate parking area with a security guard and barbed wire fencing. I wonder what they know that they don't want us to know.
No, it's just that they don't want to know us.
but, the intention of residential Internet service is mainly to allow people to download content. The ISP's can't afford to support a server site at residential rates, and more residential users can't afford business type service.
For the *few* that want to run true server sites from their residences, go out and buy it. No one is stopping you.
As far as Japan is concerned, isn't the limit around 37m upload rate continuously? The cap has to be targeted at (ab)users who are running server farms. Why is this even news?
As someone who HAS programmed in .NET and who is a Java developer, my first comment is that people who haven't and aren't shouldn't be touting the merits of languages they know little about.
Second, C# does have areas where it is superior to Java, but I certainly won't say C# is superior. Here's my bottom line: For Windows only software, use .NET, and C# has definite advantages as a .NET language. For multi-platforms, including Windows, use Java.
Bottom line, both environments and languages are strong and equivalent in many ways.
Props for the funniest post on a funny topic.
This just in... Steve Balmer has just announced his imminent retirement as CEO of Microsoft. Balmer stated that he wanted to spend more time with his family and to pursue personal interests. In related news, Microsoft announced that it will immediately make all its products Open Source... And now, back to reality.
Seven seconds to decide which hand to use to push a button? I would have already had to have decided to click the link to this article before it appeared on my screen.
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.NET back in 2003. In my posting, I was a bit negative about it, only to placate the hard-core M$ haters (I don't like M$ in general, either). But, after using Java first, I found .NET to be well thought out. As you said, it had a good template to follow. I haven't used it for years, so I can't make any definitive statements, but everything I've seen is that it is solid and improving. They are even bringing MVC to ASP.NET! Best wishes with your development career. Based on job postings, C# programmers won't be going without work anytime soon...
I spent a year as development supervisor leading the transition to
What's the point? Is this any different from Java? Or is this simply a matter of throwing out some numbers and trashing M$? One poster made a good point: .NET and Java (my preferred environment) are both big and complex. On the other hand, at least in Java, an hour's research is all that's required to have a good enough grasp of file operations to write solid code. I suspect the same is true of NOT YET, er, .NYET, er, that M$ environment. On the other hand, I cringe when I hear about a Web app language doing SQL without prepared statements (that was today, BTW). Suddenly, all apostrophes are forbidden to the people entering data. Small, lightweight environments are great for small, lightweight applications. Java, and yes, .NET are necessary for large, complex applications. .NET any good, compared to other full-featured environments? I don't know, but that silly article certainly didn't contribute anything useful...
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Actually, nuclear fusion.
Whether I agree with it or not, Apple's direction is to completely control their offerings. From what I see, they do this to maintain the best possible user experience they can deliver. If they allow their users, who tend to be non-technical, to download anything from anywhere, then they (feel that they) become responsible for any degradation in the user experience. Whether or not that is reasonable is a matter of opinion. Whether or not they have the right to do that is not.
As far as Java goes, I'm yet another Java developer. I love Java apps. They need no installer; they bypass the corporate security monitor on my workstation. They would also bypass any controls Apple uses to protect the user experience on the iPhone.
I don't own an iPhone, and I probably never will. It's not as if I don't have options.
With everyone flunking Acid-2, I had to wonder if there was any point to the test. Now, with Webkit closing in on perfection, that pushes everyone to improve. I'm honestly amazed that quality and full compliance with standards actually matters to anyone. Long live OSS!
In keeping with this theme, I suggest that the IE8 name be dropped in favor of something to reflect just how up-to-date this new browser is. How about IE 2005?