> "But Miguel works for Novell, since Novell bought his company Ximian, so they can't just leave his crap out of SuSE."
Looks like they're actually doing just that as far as the package management system is concerned, and about time.Don't be surprised if openSUSE 11 doesn't have any mono in it by default.
IF Ubuntu was readily available as a horking large DVD with the ability to select all the dev packages, etc., I'd consider it. As it is, I like the ability to slap a DVD in my box, select 7 gigs of software, and come back an hour later to a fairly complete development environment.
... we all have different needs, and different distros fill those niches.
I wasn't happy about the Microsoft agreement either (it was predictable that Microsoft would try to spin it as something it wasn't), and Mono is a real tar baby (in both senses of the term), but I balance that with the work Novell has done with linux, and the heavy lifting they're doing against SCO et al., and I'm sticking with them. They deserve a bit more patience from the community than they've been getting, all things considered.
Screw that. In the real world, Mono is a disease, Wine is something you drink. Sure, wine might be necessary for getting some external (read Windows) crap to run, but there was NO excuse for making a wine-requiring product a core "feature". "PE", or "Portable Executable" isn't. Its proprietary to Windows only.
Most of us who use opensuse day to day have gotten rid of zdm.exe, killed off beagle, and would like very much for Miguel to take mono and shove it. We already have a better OS than Microsofts'... why mess it up trying to immitate their crap?
Just remove mono and zdm.exe, and use guru or the smart updater. Mono sucks, pegs the cpu, and IMNSHO (in my not so humble opinion) there is NO excuse for having a file that ends in.exe on a linux box.
> " are business needs trumping consumer and technological interests?"
Of course business comes first - its the USofA we're talking about. Diebold voting machines. The home of BushCheneyHaliburton. The land of the free lunch if you're a C*O.
What are you, some sort of pinko commie terr'rist?
-- This post brought to you by Western Digital, because Seagate ate my RAID.
Lets go back in time. My P1 200 didn't need a cpu fan (it had one, the fan died, it kept working happily away). my ati all-in-wonder didn't need its own fan. my motherboard didn't need a fan either. Today, all these need fans. MOre juice being used on a constant basis.
Many things have changed since early 2000 lowering the amount of power needed for the average home PC to operate. Most users in early 2000 were using CRT monitors which use almost 3 times as much power than a modern LCD. If I took the time to research 2000-2002 vs components in the last two years I bet you will see the power consumption of average hardware is probably close to half as much.
And the average cpu uses a LOT more juice. So does the average video card. Who's buying all those 550 watt PSUs?
And the average home has more computers in it than it did 5 years ago. Who do you know who has only one computer nowadays?
"> Alternatively, it appears, you choose Novell's distro because "it seems to make sense to pick the Linux that works with Windows". Good to see CIOs are making rational business decisions."
Since when is the computer world run based on rational decisions? If it were, we'd have all been using motorola cpus with flat memory spaces, not intel segmented-architecture, people would have realized that Windows 3.0 was, for the longest time, just vaporware, nobody would have bought Windows ME, or Microsoft Office upgrades when there's OpenOffice or StarOffice, or Vista...
... hmmm... the "or Vista" bit... maybe the market is becoming rational after all... people aren't buying Vista.
> Quebec would do alright if separated. it would take quite a financial hit but it would bounce back. It has the resources and positioning to do so.
Quebec is the second-worst province in terms of economic performance, and has been for a LONG time. The only place worse is Newfoundland. Quebec is the pig at the trough of equalization payments - this is what you get for kicking out half a million anglos - a have-not economy.
Quebec doesn't have the resources. Take out Churchill falls (the long-term deal with Newfoundland) , and Quebec is a net importer of electricity - and you can be sure that, in a separate Quebec, Newfoundland would be in the legal position to charge an export levy. BTW - Quebec has been a net importer of electricity during the winter for more than 15 years.
Add to that the fact that people still want to leave... I'm leaving in the next year, and my younger daughter and her bf also plan on leaving once she's completed university. 3 of my sisters have left...
And do you really believe that Quebec could negotiate a better deal than NAFTA?
It would also help if fonts were designed a bit better. D A R N and D A M are easy to mistake in a LOT of lowercase fonts if you don't space them out: - darn dam darn dam,
"> you fixed it for people running wordpress on a machine where they have root privileges. which i'm sure is a good number, but i'm not in that group. thanks anyway."
In that case: fgrep -n 1 "api.wordpress.org" *.php > lines_of_code_I_might_want_to_change.txt
The branches wouldn't merge - too many other things would be different to allow a merge to take place. For example, in one branch, Darl McBride is a scum-sucking bottom-feeder, and in another he becomes a lawyer... oops - same diff - bad example:-)
I did... and here's my solution. Basically, there are other branches where life sucks less, and others where life suck more, etc. I'm going to find the one where life sucks less and kill my alter ego so I can take their place!!!!!!!! (Of course, that means that there's ANOTHER me in an even suckier universe gunning for me, so better be quick!)
You'd better watch out - there may be a doppelganger of you looking to do the same thing...
> "but without better and environmentally safe batteries "
Why betteries? Why not inertial storage (flywheel in a partial vacuum, for example), or pumped storage (ever see those water towers on stilts?).
The good thing about inertial storage is you could get exceedingly high rates of discharge - enough to power up a car in minutes instead of overnight. SciAm had an article on it in the mid-'70s, comparing flywheels using marging steel vs flywheels made from composites.
">lThis has nothing to do with the operating system on your PC."
Windows doesn't come with the ability to recognize my Motorola V635. Rogers wants $$$ for a cd with "tools". Fortunately, I'm not a maid (I don't do Windows!) so it was just a question of plugging it into my linux box and opening up a file browser. Copy ring tones to the phone, music and videos to the microFlash, unplug and go.
So yes, it is partially a question of what OS you run. Run crippleware, pay extra.
Its funny how everyone complains about needing software to access their phone, but I used the included cable to plug my v635 into my linux box's usb port and loaded it with dozens of mp3 ring tones, music (go Weird Al!), and video (a season of The Simpsons) without any additional software needed.
If you can't do it under Windows, instead of looking around for "special software", why not try booting with a linux boot CD/DVD?
Its a "feature." Now you can tell when someone's about to call you, even before the phone rings.
Mine does it all the time. If you're quick enough, you can answer before the first ring, and REALLY freak them out. Of course, then what happens sometimes is that the phone cuts the call because it didn't ring, so it assumes you want to make a call out.
> or they just found a way to port the Reality distorting field.:
[X] That's the i R e a l i t y * Distortion Field, you ignorant clod!
(* iReality Distrotion Field (Copyright) (TM) Apple Corporation 2007. All rights reserved. Do not touch that iDial. We control the iHorizontal. We control the iVertical. All your iBase...)
Apple isn't the only manufacturer who made a phone eclusively for GSM. For several years, you couldn't get a RAZR in Canada unless you went GSM. I know one guy who switched his carrier after 15 years just so he could get one of the original RAZRs (paid big bucks for it too). There are some people that "just have" to have the latest toys. Apple is happy to oblige them, and if they want those toys, they'll switch carriers if they have to.
There are a LOT of phones that are GSM-only models. The business is just too competitive to chase after the also-ran CDMA market.
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> "But Miguel works for Novell, since Novell bought his company Ximian, so they can't just leave his crap out of SuSE."
Looks like they're actually doing just that as far as the package management system is concerned, and about time.Don't be surprised if openSUSE 11 doesn't have any mono in it by default.
IF Ubuntu was readily available as a horking large DVD with the ability to select all the dev packages, etc., I'd consider it. As it is, I like the ability to slap a DVD in my box, select 7 gigs of software, and come back an hour later to a fairly complete development environment.
I wasn't happy about the Microsoft agreement either (it was predictable that Microsoft would try to spin it as something it wasn't), and Mono is a real tar baby (in both senses of the term), but I balance that with the work Novell has done with linux, and the heavy lifting they're doing against SCO et al., and I'm sticking with them. They deserve a bit more patience from the community than they've been getting, all things considered.
Screw that. In the real world, Mono is a disease, Wine is something you drink. Sure, wine might be necessary for getting some external (read Windows) crap to run, but there was NO excuse for making a wine-requiring product a core "feature". "PE", or "Portable Executable" isn't. Its proprietary to Windows only.
Most of us who use opensuse day to day have gotten rid of zdm.exe, killed off beagle, and would like very much for Miguel to take mono and shove it. We already have a better OS than Microsofts' ... why mess it up trying to immitate their crap?
Just remove mono and zdm.exe, and use guru or the smart updater. Mono sucks, pegs the cpu, and IMNSHO (in my not so humble opinion) there is NO excuse for having a file that ends in .exe on a linux box.
I'm calling dibs on -1. This way, I'll be ready for the next table integer overflow, sometime before the sun goes nova ...
> " are business needs trumping consumer and technological interests?"
Of course business comes first - its the USofA we're talking about. Diebold voting machines. The home of BushCheneyHaliburton. The land of the free lunch if you're a C*O.
What are you, some sort of pinko commie terr'rist?
-- This post brought to you by Western Digital, because Seagate ate my RAID.
Lets go back in time. My P1 200 didn't need a cpu fan (it had one, the fan died, it kept working happily away). my ati all-in-wonder didn't need its own fan. my motherboard didn't need a fan either. Today, all these need fans. MOre juice being used on a constant basis.
> "Why do you assume that this 550 Watt power supply is constantly drawing 100% power? "
I could say "why do you assume that 300 watt power supplies 7 years ago were constantly drawing 100% power?"
If they're both drawing on average 50%, then power use still has almost doubled.
> Also consider that today's power supplies are often >80% efficient
Only the most expensive - most sub-$100 PS are only 25 to 40% efficient.
- the average mac gets a lot more user life than the average windows box
- the mac doesn't need shelling out for antivirus, anti-trojan, anti-whatever on a regular basis
The days that a mac was more expensive to own than a PC ended last year.Next you'll be claiming that emacs isn't an OS ... philistine!
Many things have changed since early 2000 lowering the amount of power needed for the average home PC to operate. Most users in early 2000 were using CRT monitors which use almost 3 times as much power than a modern LCD. If I took the time to research 2000-2002 vs components in the last two years I bet you will see the power consumption of average hardware is probably close to half as much.
And the average cpu uses a LOT more juice. So does the average video card. Who's buying all those 550 watt PSUs?
And the average home has more computers in it than it did 5 years ago. Who do you know who has only one computer nowadays?
"> Alternatively, it appears, you choose Novell's distro because "it seems to make sense to pick the Linux that works with Windows". Good to see CIOs are making rational business decisions."
Since when is the computer world run based on rational decisions? If it were, we'd have all been using motorola cpus with flat memory spaces, not intel segmented-architecture, people would have realized that Windows 3.0 was, for the longest time, just vaporware, nobody would have bought Windows ME, or Microsoft Office upgrades when there's OpenOffice or StarOffice, or Vista ...
> Quebec would do alright if separated. it would take quite a financial hit but it would bounce back. It has the resources and positioning to do so.
Quebec is the second-worst province in terms of economic performance, and has been for a LONG time. The only place worse is Newfoundland. Quebec is the pig at the trough of equalization payments - this is what you get for kicking out half a million anglos - a have-not economy.
Quebec doesn't have the resources. Take out Churchill falls (the long-term deal with Newfoundland) , and Quebec is a net importer of electricity - and you can be sure that, in a separate Quebec, Newfoundland would be in the legal position to charge an export levy. BTW - Quebec has been a net importer of electricity during the winter for more than 15 years.
Add to that the fact that people still want to leave ... I'm leaving in the next year, and my younger daughter and her bf also plan on leaving once she's completed university. 3 of my sisters have left ...
And do you really believe that Quebec could negotiate a better deal than NAFTA?
I don't care any more, so f*** it, tabernac!
It would also help if fonts were designed a bit better. D A R N and D A M are easy to mistake in a LOT of lowercase fonts if you don't space them out: - darn dam darn dam,
"> you fixed it for people running wordpress on a machine where they have root privileges. which i'm sure is a good number, but i'm not in that group. thanks anyway."
In that case: fgrep -n 1 "api.wordpress.org" *.php > lines_of_code_I_might_want_to_change.txt
su root /etc/hosts
:wq
vi
i
wordpress.com 127.0.0.1
There - fixed it for you!
just edit your hosts file so that when it trys to contact the mother ship, it ends up at 127.0.0.1
The branches wouldn't merge - too many other things would be different to allow a merge to take place. For example, in one branch, Darl McBride is a scum-sucking bottom-feeder, and in another he becomes a lawyer ... oops - same diff - bad example :-)
Think about the "mind-body problem" Okay ...
I did ... and here's my solution. Basically, there are other branches where life sucks less, and others where life suck more, etc. I'm going to find the one where life sucks less and kill my alter ego so I can take their place!!!!!!!! (Of course, that means that there's ANOTHER me in an even suckier universe gunning for me, so better be quick!)
You'd better watch out - there may be a doppelganger of you looking to do the same thing...
> "but without better and environmentally safe batteries "
Why betteries? Why not inertial storage (flywheel in a partial vacuum, for example), or pumped storage (ever see those water towers on stilts?).
The good thing about inertial storage is you could get exceedingly high rates of discharge - enough to power up a car in minutes instead of overnight. SciAm had an article on it in the mid-'70s, comparing flywheels using marging steel vs flywheels made from composites.
">lThis has nothing to do with the operating system on your PC."
Windows doesn't come with the ability to recognize my Motorola V635. Rogers wants $$$ for a cd with "tools". Fortunately, I'm not a maid (I don't do Windows!) so it was just a question of plugging it into my linux box and opening up a file browser. Copy ring tones to the phone, music and videos to the microFlash, unplug and go.
So yes, it is partially a question of what OS you run. Run crippleware, pay extra.
Its funny how everyone complains about needing software to access their phone, but I used the included cable to plug my v635 into my linux box's usb port and loaded it with dozens of mp3 ring tones, music (go Weird Al!), and video (a season of The Simpsons) without any additional software needed.
If you can't do it under Windows, instead of looking around for "special software", why not try booting with a linux boot CD/DVD?
Its a "feature." Now you can tell when someone's about to call you, even before the phone rings.
Mine does it all the time. If you're quick enough, you can answer before the first ring, and REALLY freak them out. Of course, then what happens sometimes is that the phone cuts the call because it didn't ring, so it assumes you want to make a call out.
> or they just found a way to port the Reality distorting field.:
[X] That's the i R e a l i t y * Distortion Field, you ignorant clod!
(* iReality Distrotion Field (Copyright) (TM) Apple Corporation 2007. All rights reserved. Do not touch that iDial. We control the iHorizontal. We control the iVertical. All your iBase ...)
Apple isn't the only manufacturer who made a phone eclusively for GSM. For several years, you couldn't get a RAZR in Canada unless you went GSM. I know one guy who switched his carrier after 15 years just so he could get one of the original RAZRs (paid big bucks for it too). There are some people that "just have" to have the latest toys. Apple is happy to oblige them, and if they want those toys, they'll switch carriers if they have to.
There are a LOT of phones that are GSM-only models. The business is just too competitive to chase after the also-ran CDMA market.
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