Heh, some of our former employees tried the exact same tactic, and as an added bonus actually managed to convince one of our sizeable customers to go with them, all based on promises of being able to give them a better system with more features using the latest and greatest programming languages that were the rage at the time. (I'll freely admit that the company I work for still uses COBOL on it's older clients business systems)
The both lost - 5 years and many, many millions down the line the customer turned round and said "Right, this isn't working, we want our old legacy system back". In that time these former employees and thier new company were unable to provide a rewrite that was as stable, fast or feature laden as the system they were rewriting it on, so the customer simply came back to us and said "Where do we sign?".
The most amusing part was when the negotiations were taking place, the former employees tried to sell us thier IP and the system they had developed. Our CEO simply laughed at them.
Don't get me wrong - I fully admire what they attempted, but the manner in which they underestimated what it would actually take to rewrite a legacy system (incorporating 23 years of ongoing development) from scratch was a perfect example of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
How exactly do you make informed purchasing decisions without information? Crude a technique as it may be, advertisements are the simplest method of making people aware that your product exists.
Relying on customers to make themselves aware of your product and to educate themselves entirely about the pro's and con's thereof is hardly a viable business strategy. If two competing products exist, how do you decide which one to buy? How do you even know either even exist?
Somehow relying on random chance to profide you with suficient information to make the most 'efficient' purchasing decision doesn't sound all that efficient. Independent consumer reviews are hardly unbiased or comprehensive, and take away advertisements that is all you're really left with.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like being bombarded with normally useless adverts either.
1) Get a QA position at a development studio where you are actually working hand in hand with the developers. Do NOT get a QA position at a publisher's degenerate nerd stockyard - busing tables or suicide would be preferable to that.
I resent that! Nobody should ever need to resort to the option of bussing tables.
Oddly enough, using IE6 at work renders/. just fine, while using FF at home often leaves me with comments only partially displayed and unable to reply (hitting 'Reply' on FF either just brings up loading text, or allows me to type in a reply only for the 'Submit' button to do nothing).
Without knowing the baseline they're working on, this could range from extremely impressive to completely useless.
Ok. So 4 out of the 9 bugs they expected to see exploits codes for actually had exploits meterialise. How many bugs had exploits coded that were not in thier 9 candidates? What is the total number of bugs taken into consideration?
If you were playing "battleship" on a 3x3 board with 4 "ships", taking 9 guesses to hit all 4 would be pretty dismal. Change that into a 30x30 board and suddenly 9 guesses to hit all 4 looks pretty damn impressive.
It's not like they're flying engineers and spare parts out to Mars, is it? So yes, while extending the mission has probably increased the spending on the project, most of that spending will be going into crunching additional data - the actual cost of keeping the rover up and running is minimal at this point.
You seem to be under the missaprehension that you, as a defendant/suspect, have any say in what is considered relevant.
And AFAIK, unless you try and claim that the information that they police are trying to access is either classified, or subject to client/patient confidentiality, merely claiming that information is 'sensitive' in some way (copyrighted, trade secrets etc) is not sufficient cause to deny access.
That is not to imply that I in any way condone the idea that one should be subect to criminal charges for refusing to supply information that cannot be proven exists.
Well then we obviously differ in our chosen methods of discussion. You choose to base your opinions and statements on speculation while I prefer debating the currently known facts.
You're claiming that it is an invasion of privacy based on how it could evolve into something more sinister. That's a pretty definitive declaration based on speculation. Unless you care to elaborate on how the service, as currently proposed is an invasion of your privacy?
Actually, If I were paying 5 figures for software I wouldn't care what the version number is. I ain't shelling out that kind of cash without a pretty exhaustive demonstration of the product, and you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be asking a lot more questions that if I were paying $40 at WalMart.
As has been said, starting with a high version number might work if this were a high volume, off-the-shelf product. At $10k+ a pop, you're just shooting yourself in the foot by starting at a randomly high version - your customers are going to expect references, and reviews, and enquire about the history of the product. And then dismiss you as fraudsters when they figure out that version 6.3 is actually version 1.0.
If that's supposed to be a joke, it's not working very well.
If not, congratulations. You've successfully missed the part where this is a service you have to subscribe and install software for. If you don't want to use it, don't - it's not quantum physics.
Either your tinfoil hat is melting, or you're a minor whos parents have control issues.
The difference between this and turning your phone off is that it tells the called why you're not answering thier call.
I've met my fair share of people that have the habit of demanding to know why thier call wasn't answered, which is annoying enough that something like this would be useful. Heck, I have family members that actively panic if they can't get hold of someone first time (omg he's not answering his phone, something must be wrong!) and start calling everyone and the family dog to make sure nothing disasterous has happened.
Pity they don't have phones that can detect that you're watching a movie, or sleeping, or busy with any number of other activities so that it could automatically play back an appropriate "Bugger off, I'm _______ing" message.
I guess you could come up with a service that lets you flag yourself as unavailable for a number of situations, but then you'd end up with a situation where people think you're having a movie marathon because you forgot to turn the notification off (and the same applies to putting your phone off/on silent).
It's an opt-in, user controlled system that serves more as a courtesy to callers than an aid to drivers. The numerous posts detailing how this is an invasion of privacy/useless feature/nanny statism/parental control system are amusing.
I suppose you missed the part where this was written by a Republican? Why would someone pulling these so called 'dirty tricks' on behalf of one political party know with any certainty what 'dirty tricks' are being used by thier opposition?
This isn't a case of "Republicans do this, Democrats do not". It's a case of "Republicans did this" - just because the author has no knowledge (or at least supportable knowledge) of equivalent wrongdoing, this does not imply that the author believes the Democrats are innocent of similar maneuveres.
But hey, if you want to make unfounded and unreasonable assumptions to support your own bias, go right ahead.
Odd. There are all kinds of sporting and recreational tournaments that require an entry fee and have prizes consisting of, or at least including, cash. I've never seen my local chess club being accused of organising gambling even though they hold several such tournaments a year...
I'm curious, but where is it stated that the accusations are provably false? The principal's motive may just as easily be to seen to be outraged without forcing the issue into a situation where the claims need to be proven to be false (or true).
Just because it's a kid spouting off doesn't make it false (although it probably is), and just because the principal is denying the accusations (in a roundabout way) doesn't mean he's telling the truth either.
What does open source have to do with free? I can write a program and distribute only the binary for free, or I can write and sell an application where I give you the source code to go with it. Granted, the latter is very rare, but the former is very common.
Free != Open Source.
Fortunately although I work for a closed source shop, we do sell our software as a service. Given that our clients require 24/7 support and constant modifications (with turnaround times for code changes from request to live sometimes measured in hours), I doubt any OSS application would even come close to giving our clients what they expect.
What business was she conducting? Simply receiving email does not make her guilty of anything, and there is no eveidence that she solicited or acted on any of the received emails, or sent any governemt related emails of her own.
Hell, I have tons of work related emails sitting in my private inbox simply because the people I work with have a habit of sending them to both my work and private adresses when I'm out of the office. Doesn't mean I replied to them, or actioned them, or that they did not go to the correct email adress as well.
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Heh, some of our former employees tried the exact same tactic, and as an added bonus actually managed to convince one of our sizeable customers to go with them, all based on promises of being able to give them a better system with more features using the latest and greatest programming languages that were the rage at the time. (I'll freely admit that the company I work for still uses COBOL on it's older clients business systems)
The both lost - 5 years and many, many millions down the line the customer turned round and said "Right, this isn't working, we want our old legacy system back". In that time these former employees and thier new company were unable to provide a rewrite that was as stable, fast or feature laden as the system they were rewriting it on, so the customer simply came back to us and said "Where do we sign?".
The most amusing part was when the negotiations were taking place, the former employees tried to sell us thier IP and the system they had developed. Our CEO simply laughed at them.
Don't get me wrong - I fully admire what they attempted, but the manner in which they underestimated what it would actually take to rewrite a legacy system (incorporating 23 years of ongoing development) from scratch was a perfect example of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
I dunno, CD's seem pretty physical to me.
How exactly do you make informed purchasing decisions without information? Crude a technique as it may be, advertisements are the simplest method of making people aware that your product exists.
Relying on customers to make themselves aware of your product and to educate themselves entirely about the pro's and con's thereof is hardly a viable business strategy. If two competing products exist, how do you decide which one to buy? How do you even know either even exist?
Somehow relying on random chance to profide you with suficient information to make the most 'efficient' purchasing decision doesn't sound all that efficient. Independent consumer reviews are hardly unbiased or comprehensive, and take away advertisements that is all you're really left with.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like being bombarded with normally useless adverts either.
1) Get a QA position at a development studio where you are actually working hand in hand with the developers. Do NOT get a QA position at a publisher's degenerate nerd stockyard - busing tables or suicide would be preferable to that.
I resent that! Nobody should ever need to resort to the option of bussing tables.
This is Slashdot - you're not supposed to read TFA. It makes the discussions that much more interesting!
Now you just need to employ ~435 000 000 people working 8 hours a day to actually listen to all of it.
Oddly enough, using IE6 at work renders /. just fine, while using FF at home often leaves me with comments only partially displayed and unable to reply (hitting 'Reply' on FF either just brings up loading text, or allows me to type in a reply only for the 'Submit' button to do nothing).
Without knowing the baseline they're working on, this could range from extremely impressive to completely useless.
Ok. So 4 out of the 9 bugs they expected to see exploits codes for actually had exploits meterialise. How many bugs had exploits coded that were not in thier 9 candidates? What is the total number of bugs taken into consideration?
If you were playing "battleship" on a 3x3 board with 4 "ships", taking 9 guesses to hit all 4 would be pretty dismal. Change that into a 30x30 board and suddenly 9 guesses to hit all 4 looks pretty damn impressive.
It's not like they're flying engineers and spare parts out to Mars, is it? So yes, while extending the mission has probably increased the spending on the project, most of that spending will be going into crunching additional data - the actual cost of keeping the rover up and running is minimal at this point.
I just had a scary mental image of inmates being required to provide free powerleveling and grinding services for MMO's as punishment...
You seem to be under the missaprehension that you, as a defendant/suspect, have any say in what is considered relevant.
And AFAIK, unless you try and claim that the information that they police are trying to access is either classified, or subject to client/patient confidentiality, merely claiming that information is 'sensitive' in some way (copyrighted, trade secrets etc) is not sufficient cause to deny access.
That is not to imply that I in any way condone the idea that one should be subect to criminal charges for refusing to supply information that cannot be proven exists.
Is the UK government and authorities completely without morales?
If Morales was an issue, Spain and large parts of South America would have perfect governments. (Sorry, couldn't resist)
Well then we obviously differ in our chosen methods of discussion. You choose to base your opinions and statements on speculation while I prefer debating the currently known facts.
You're claiming that it is an invasion of privacy based on how it could evolve into something more sinister. That's a pretty definitive declaration based on speculation. Unless you care to elaborate on how the service, as currently proposed is an invasion of your privacy?
Actually, If I were paying 5 figures for software I wouldn't care what the version number is. I ain't shelling out that kind of cash without a pretty exhaustive demonstration of the product, and you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be asking a lot more questions that if I were paying $40 at WalMart.
As has been said, starting with a high version number might work if this were a high volume, off-the-shelf product. At $10k+ a pop, you're just shooting yourself in the foot by starting at a randomly high version - your customers are going to expect references, and reviews, and enquire about the history of the product. And then dismiss you as fraudsters when they figure out that version 6.3 is actually version 1.0.
If that's supposed to be a joke, it's not working very well.
If not, congratulations. You've successfully missed the part where this is a service you have to subscribe and install software for. If you don't want to use it, don't - it's not quantum physics.
Either your tinfoil hat is melting, or you're a minor whos parents have control issues.
The difference between this and turning your phone off is that it tells the called why you're not answering thier call.
I've met my fair share of people that have the habit of demanding to know why thier call wasn't answered, which is annoying enough that something like this would be useful. Heck, I have family members that actively panic if they can't get hold of someone first time (omg he's not answering his phone, something must be wrong!) and start calling everyone and the family dog to make sure nothing disasterous has happened.
Pity they don't have phones that can detect that you're watching a movie, or sleeping, or busy with any number of other activities so that it could automatically play back an appropriate "Bugger off, I'm _______ing" message.
I guess you could come up with a service that lets you flag yourself as unavailable for a number of situations, but then you'd end up with a situation where people think you're having a movie marathon because you forgot to turn the notification off (and the same applies to putting your phone off/on silent).
It's an opt-in, user controlled system that serves more as a courtesy to callers than an aid to drivers. The numerous posts detailing how this is an invasion of privacy/useless feature/nanny statism/parental control system are amusing.
I take it you have never read the disclaimer at the bottom of the page?
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Conversely, most MMO EULA's have a clause somewhere stating that the company running the game servers own any and all objects within the game world.
Whether either are enforceable is a matter of debate, but you can get the developer's view on the matter simply by reading the EULA.
Over 6 years, the school graduates 60 full-time students (let's say they're spread out evenly at 6 per year)
Your law school is teaching you some strange maths...
I suppose you missed the part where this was written by a Republican? Why would someone pulling these so called 'dirty tricks' on behalf of one political party know with any certainty what 'dirty tricks' are being used by thier opposition?
This isn't a case of "Republicans do this, Democrats do not". It's a case of "Republicans did this" - just because the author has no knowledge (or at least supportable knowledge) of equivalent wrongdoing, this does not imply that the author believes the Democrats are innocent of similar maneuveres.
But hey, if you want to make unfounded and unreasonable assumptions to support your own bias, go right ahead.
Odd. There are all kinds of sporting and recreational tournaments that require an entry fee and have prizes consisting of, or at least including, cash. I've never seen my local chess club being accused of organising gambling even though they hold several such tournaments a year...
Second best. First would have to go to the 'Frist P0st' that actually manages to be first!
That would be the number 6 he left out...
I'm curious, but where is it stated that the accusations are provably false? The principal's motive may just as easily be to seen to be outraged without forcing the issue into a situation where the claims need to be proven to be false (or true).
Just because it's a kid spouting off doesn't make it false (although it probably is), and just because the principal is denying the accusations (in a roundabout way) doesn't mean he's telling the truth either.
What does open source have to do with free? I can write a program and distribute only the binary for free, or I can write and sell an application where I give you the source code to go with it. Granted, the latter is very rare, but the former is very common.
Free != Open Source.
Fortunately although I work for a closed source shop, we do sell our software as a service. Given that our clients require 24/7 support and constant modifications (with turnaround times for code changes from request to live sometimes measured in hours), I doubt any OSS application would even come close to giving our clients what they expect.
What business was she conducting? Simply receiving email does not make her guilty of anything, and there is no eveidence that she solicited or acted on any of the received emails, or sent any governemt related emails of her own.
Hell, I have tons of work related emails sitting in my private inbox simply because the people I work with have a habit of sending them to both my work and private adresses when I'm out of the office. Doesn't mean I replied to them, or actioned them, or that they did not go to the correct email adress as well.