> Here's a word, kid [sarcasm] > > majority, however, seem to think Bush is doing a 'good job' in the face of all that American hardship
You seem to have a hard time with good sarcasm then. If you were using sarcasm, that means there is no American hardship, of course. If there is none, why the hell would we NOT think he is doing a good job?
> The Electoral College doesn't work the way you think it does.
So you are assuming what I know? You don't even fucking live here, I know what the Electoral College is. Electors (set # for each state) are appointed. The citizens vote for a candidate, and the one who gets the most votes is supposed to get the Elector's votes. Some states (Michigan) can split the Electorate votes by % of votes each candidate got. The Electors do not have to follow the actual voters "suggestion," but if they didn't, chances are pretty good that he would be out of a job the next time.
That explanation enough for you?
I know it's a republic -- like a Representational Democracy.
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> Sorry, but I can't classify a Bible-thumping God-worshipping homophobe as intelligent.
2 interesting & 1 Funny? I can see the 1 Offtopic, but how can this be "interesting?" It's frickin hysterical!
I wish I was as smart as a lot of people. That doesn't mean I am going to sue someone. I think your suspicions are baseless & paranoid. Maybe you were 10 minutes later because you needed another 10 minutes to develop. *shrug* Many twins are spaced out further than 10 minutes. I regularly got Cs and Ds through High School, yet had a higher-than-average IQ (I'm no Einstein, but it's okay). I'm pretty sure it was not the result of being in my mother's womb longer.
Which is why he got better grades in school than Gore? Come on, people. Geeks should know damn well by now that intelligence does not define how you look in public. Some of the most intelligent people in the world cannot speak publicly, and some can't even formulate great debates, but put them in front of complex equations & they're off like a rabbit.
Brings up an interesting question. If the projector is smaller than an AC power cord and a VGA cable, how do you plug anything into it? And since the cables will weigh more than the hardware, how to you keep it in one place? Won't it slide around every time you touch a wire near it?
Are you fucking kidding me? AMERICAN HARDSHIP? WOW, I wish I had read this before replying to your other post. I would not have bothered, I didn't realize you were a damn lunatic! The poorest Americans have it better than the middle class in many countries. And we like it that way. Posh, hardship.
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Umm, no, it isn't. The electoral college has worked successfully for years, so your "jury" is completely imaginary.
> I know more Americans who rationally think that than I do who don't,
Umm, I've realized that you are a troll, but tis couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you are more likely to know people who AGREE WITH YOU. Jeez, man. You talk about Bush being a liar and then say he's illiterate. You mention the electoral college, then say he stole the election? Christ, man, do you ever think about wdhat you are saying, or do you just bash anything you don't agree with? I bet you consider yourself a very open-minded individual, yet you spread lies like it's going out of style. Get a grip, there is no evidence Bush is insane, it's like me saying Clinton was a Gigolo.
> for that matter slashdot.org. A complex website costs thousands to millions a year to run
I believe there is a big difference between Slashdot (which is visited by hundreds of thousands of people around the world every day) and the Macomb County Sherrif's Office, which is of interest to no one outside of Macomb county. What's that, 150,000? 200k? How many people in the county actually used it? 20k? 50K max in a month. 3.5 million hits is NOTHING compared to/., it doesn't take a million bucks to run a Sheriff's page.
> coders behind fairly popular OSS projects who told me that their next project wasn't going to be OSS.
Fine, that is their decision, I have no problem with that -- only when you say that someone should not write OSS just because they don't get paid. That is their decision. Basically, it comes down to (within reason) do what you want, charge, don't charge, it doesn't matter: as long as you are happy with it.
> "hey, why don't you GPL your code?" and I think it's just as fair
It would be just as fair for you to say "hey, why don't you give me a million dollars." Of course, if those people can't see the value in closed-source, that is their problem. If you can't see the value in Open Source... well, that's yours.
> a madman (such as the kind the US is capable of producing just as well as any -other- country on Earth
This doesn't take away from your point, but the U.S. certainly is less likely to be ruled by a "mad man." Since we elect our leaders & have the opportunity to remove them, a true mad man would not last long. (No cheap shots at Bush -- he may be a moron, but I don't think he's insane)
> Put weapons in space, and you put the life of the entire species in the hands of a very, very, very, very, very, very few
As opposed to now, where we have... the same thing, only with nuclear weapons that can be delivered quicker from here.
> the main problem with OS is that the coders aren't getting paid.
Simple answer: it's not a problem if no one is complaining. If they were worried about getting paid, they would not do it for free. They do it because they like to program, want to help out, like the concept of free*/free**, etc. I'm a bit tired of hearing people (who do not write the programs) complain that these coders are being taken advantage of. I could write software for free for MS if I damn well pleased, so I can write it for OSS too. I prefer it for OSS since no one profits directly from my work, except by gaining & using what I wrote. If it helps them in some way, great! If it doesn't, no skin off your nose, so why do you care.
> And there is only *one* company that can control access to the field
So you are saying I couldn't write an OS myself (ignoring the fact that it would suck & no one would use it)? I could. Linux's existence is evidence that MS does not control access. They have marketshare. That's it. By saying MS regulates the computer industry, you do a disservice to everyone who writes software outside MS. Anyone who has come up with a standard protocol, etc. Regulation means they tell you what you cannot do. MS cannot tell me what I can't do. If I steal something from them, they can ask the Gov to step in, but that would be the same in any industry.
People seem to have this notion that the computer industry is by itself in its problems. Any nontechnical problem that has come up in Computers has probably come up somewhere else. Any industry has its giant corporation(s) that do things their way, and any other way is wrong.
> offensive in its research/development capabilities.
Huh? Then it is the RESEARCH that is offensive to his tastes. The research can be done on Earth, but it would be harder. If they are going to be doing research that is dangerous, isn't it better that it's done away from here where fewer people (read: civilians) can be hurt. I find it offensive that someone would rather endanger the populace than use a safer place far away.
> I can think of a few world governments who would consider such a program entirely offensive.
Yes, and they are idiots. You do realize that the moon is worthless as an offensive base? That is would take DAYS for even the first wave of attacks to start, once launched? If an attack were launched from the moon, there would be more than ample time for another country to reduce the U.S.'s largest cities to rubble, with enough time to knock back a few with the friends at the pub before the nukes landed? For two straight days? That's a lot of drinking.
> But its no surprise to me that an American couldn't see this simple fact...
But it's no surprise to me that ignorant foreigners couldn't see these simple facts and instead assume anything the American military does is to attack his country. Ooooh, AmeriKKKa is evil, so is everything they do *wank wank*. Piss off.
> If we told the muslim world that attacks against the US like 9/11 would result in the assured destruction of the arab or muslim world, we wouldn't have attacks against us by those people.
I hope you are trolling and aren't a fucking moron.
If we did that, they would hate us more. They know damned well we could not get away with something lik that, and we know it too. Besides, there is no nation responsible for the WTC attack. It was individuals -- we can't carpet bomb the whole damned Middle East because of some whack jobs!
> Then every vendor has the same starting point (GPL Linux) > If that is not the best description of fair [competition?] > They can join the linux world or die
If you meant "compensation" when you said "compention," sorry, I misunderstood. I assumed "competition" was what you mistyped.
So you are saying the best way to compete fairly is for everyone to use Linux? What you appear to be proposing is the exact OPPOSITE of competition. Locking them into another system, just one that isn't theirs?
Fair competition does NOT mean that everyone has the same starting point. It just means they have the same field to play on. Sure, MS has broken rules of the game, but Linux has redefined the rules of the game. (not that this makes MS any better or Linux any worse, I'm just stating my view)
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> Here's a word, kid [sarcasm]
> > majority, however, seem to think Bush is doing a 'good job' in the face of all that American hardship
You seem to have a hard time with good sarcasm then. If you were using sarcasm, that means there is no American hardship, of course. If there is none, why the hell would we NOT think he is doing a good job?
> The Electoral College doesn't work the way you think it does.
So you are assuming what I know? You don't even fucking live here, I know what the Electoral College is. Electors (set # for each state) are appointed. The citizens vote for a candidate, and the one who gets the most votes is supposed to get the Elector's votes. Some states (Michigan) can split the Electorate votes by % of votes each candidate got. The Electors do not have to follow the actual voters "suggestion," but if they didn't, chances are pretty good that he would be out of a job the next time.
That explanation enough for you?
I know it's a republic -- like a Representational Democracy.
> Sorry, but I can't classify a Bible-thumping God-worshipping homophobe as intelligent.
2 interesting & 1 Funny? I can see the 1 Offtopic, but how can this be "interesting?" It's frickin hysterical!
I wish I was as smart as a lot of people. That doesn't mean I am going to sue someone. I think your suspicions are baseless & paranoid. Maybe you were 10 minutes later because you needed another 10 minutes to develop. *shrug* Many twins are spaced out further than 10 minutes. I regularly got Cs and Ds through High School, yet had a higher-than-average IQ (I'm no Einstein, but it's okay). I'm pretty sure it was not the result of being in my mother's womb longer.
> Bush is clearly [...] as thick as pigshit
Which is why he got better grades in school than Gore? Come on, people. Geeks should know damn well by now that intelligence does not define how you look in public. Some of the most intelligent people in the world cannot speak publicly, and some can't even formulate great debates, but put them in front of complex equations & they're off like a rabbit.
> Image how small the remote control will be ...
Brings up an interesting question. If the projector is smaller than an AC power cord and a VGA cable, how do you plug anything into it? And since the cables will weigh more than the hardware, how to you keep it in one place? Won't it slide around every time you touch a wire near it?
> are people just too damned concerned about things that "could be" than "are?"
If we were never concerened with what "could be," nothing would ever "be".... er... are.
> all that American hardship ...
Are you fucking kidding me? AMERICAN HARDSHIP? WOW, I wish I had read this before replying to your other post. I would not have bothered, I didn't realize you were a damn lunatic! The poorest Americans have it better than the middle class in many countries. And we like it that way. Posh, hardship.
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> I think the jury is pretty hung on that point
Umm, no, it isn't. The electoral college has worked successfully for years, so your "jury" is completely imaginary.
> I know more Americans who rationally think that than I do who don't,
Umm, I've realized that you are a troll, but tis couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you are more likely to know people who AGREE WITH YOU. Jeez, man. You talk about Bush being a liar and then say he's illiterate. You mention the electoral college, then say he stole the election? Christ, man, do you ever think about wdhat you are saying, or do you just bash anything you don't agree with? I bet you consider yourself a very open-minded individual, yet you spread lies like it's going out of style. Get a grip, there is no evidence Bush is insane, it's like me saying Clinton was a Gigolo.
> for that matter slashdot.org. A complex website costs thousands to millions a year to run
/., it doesn't take a million bucks to run a Sheriff's page.
I believe there is a big difference between Slashdot (which is visited by hundreds of thousands of people around the world every day) and the Macomb County Sherrif's Office, which is of interest to no one outside of Macomb county. What's that, 150,000? 200k? How many people in the county actually used it? 20k? 50K max in a month. 3.5 million hits is NOTHING compared to
> coders behind fairly popular OSS projects who told me that their next project wasn't going to be OSS.
Fine, that is their decision, I have no problem with that -- only when you say that someone should not write OSS just because they don't get paid. That is their decision. Basically, it comes down to (within reason) do what you want, charge, don't charge, it doesn't matter: as long as you are happy with it.
> "hey, why don't you GPL your code?" and I think it's just as fair
It would be just as fair for you to say "hey, why don't you give me a million dollars." Of course, if those people can't see the value in closed-source, that is their problem. If you can't see the value in Open Source... well, that's yours.
> a madman (such as the kind the US is capable of producing just as well as any -other- country on Earth
This doesn't take away from your point, but the U.S. certainly is less likely to be ruled by a "mad man." Since we elect our leaders & have the opportunity to remove them, a true mad man would not last long. (No cheap shots at Bush -- he may be a moron, but I don't think he's insane)
> Put weapons in space, and you put the life of the entire species in the hands of a very, very, very, very, very, very few
As opposed to now, where we have... the same thing, only with nuclear weapons that can be delivered quicker from here.
> CP/M, which is surely as old, if not older, than UNIX.
Sorry, but CP/M was made in 1974. UNIX was started in 1969.
> the main problem with OS is that the coders aren't getting paid.
Simple answer: it's not a problem if no one is complaining. If they were worried about getting paid, they would not do it for free. They do it because they like to program, want to help out, like the concept of free*/free**, etc. I'm a bit tired of hearing people (who do not write the programs) complain that these coders are being taken advantage of. I could write software for free for MS if I damn well pleased, so I can write it for OSS too. I prefer it for OSS since no one profits directly from my work, except by gaining & using what I wrote. If it helps them in some way, great! If it doesn't, no skin off your nose, so why do you care.
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> And there is only *one* company that can control access to the field
So you are saying I couldn't write an OS myself (ignoring the fact that it would suck & no one would use it)? I could. Linux's existence is evidence that MS does not control access. They have marketshare. That's it. By saying MS regulates the computer industry, you do a disservice to everyone who writes software outside MS. Anyone who has come up with a standard protocol, etc. Regulation means they tell you what you cannot do. MS cannot tell me what I can't do. If I steal something from them, they can ask the Gov to step in, but that would be the same in any industry.
People seem to have this notion that the computer industry is by itself in its problems. Any nontechnical problem that has come up in Computers has probably come up somewhere else. Any industry has its giant corporation(s) that do things their way, and any other way is wrong.
> Criminal negligence if you will
Eh... okay, I'll buy that. I don't agree, but at least it makes sense.
> offensive in its research/development capabilities.
Huh? Then it is the RESEARCH that is offensive to his tastes. The research can be done on Earth, but it would be harder. If they are going to be doing research that is dangerous, isn't it better that it's done away from here where fewer people (read: civilians) can be hurt. I find it offensive that someone would rather endanger the populace than use a safer place far away.
> think back over the last decade and name the truly original ideas
Man, the CueCat was the most original thing I had ever heard of...
I am going to pray for you tonight, in hopes that your rabid anti-American ignorance & FUD/lies clear up soon. And I'm an atheist.
> I can think of a few world governments who would consider such a program entirely offensive.
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Yes, and they are idiots. You do realize that the moon is worthless as an offensive base? That is would take DAYS for even the first wave of attacks to start, once launched? If an attack were launched from the moon, there would be more than ample time for another country to reduce the U.S.'s largest cities to rubble, with enough time to knock back a few with the friends at the pub before the nukes landed? For two straight days? That's a lot of drinking.
> But its no surprise to me that an American couldn't see this simple fact
But it's no surprise to me that ignorant foreigners couldn't see these simple facts and instead assume anything the American military does is to attack his country. Ooooh, AmeriKKKa is evil, so is everything they do *wank wank*. Piss off.
> If we told the muslim world that attacks against the US like 9/11 would result in the assured destruction of the arab or muslim world, we wouldn't have attacks against us by those people.
I hope you are trolling and aren't a fucking moron.
If we did that, they would hate us more. They know damned well we could not get away with something lik that, and we know it too. Besides, there is no nation responsible for the WTC attack. It was individuals -- we can't carpet bomb the whole damned Middle East because of some whack jobs!
> Then every vendor has the same starting point (GPL Linux)
> If that is not the best description of fair [competition?]
> They can join the linux world or die
If you meant "compensation" when you said "compention," sorry, I misunderstood. I assumed "competition" was what you mistyped.
So you are saying the best way to compete fairly is for everyone to use Linux? What you appear to be proposing is the exact OPPOSITE of competition. Locking them into another system, just one that isn't theirs?
Fair competition does NOT mean that everyone has the same starting point. It just means they have the same field to play on. Sure, MS has broken rules of the game, but Linux has redefined the rules of the game. (not that this makes MS any better or Linux any worse, I'm just stating my view)
> So basically your saying that the government [is] in on this
I don't think he's saying they are "in on it" as much as he is saying they are simply "looking the other way."
> I worked on a program to give Internet access to Pedophiles and Rapists in prison.
And I never got to thank you. It made my time so much easier.
> pretending to be a philanthropist by giving away some of the billions he made
Pretending or not, charities still got that money either way. Yes, the money may have been made immorally, but people still got helped with it.