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Michael Dell Steps Down as CEO

A whole lot of readers made sure we knew that Michael Dell is calling it quits as CEO of Dell, and has named Kevin Rollins, the current president and chief operating officer of Dell, as his successor. Rollins will retain the title of president, but Michael Dell hasn't left completely. He's still planning on sticking around as chairman of the board.

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  1. Dude.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You're getting a huge pension!

    1. Re:Dude.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The word on the street is he is stepping down to pursue his lifelong dream of building the world's biggest beowulf cluster

    2. Re:Dude.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Only on Slashdot...

      Crying at eroding civil liberties but demanding censorship at the same time!

    3. Re:Dude.... by cachorro · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Actually, I had noticed that Mr. Dell cashed in a cool billion worth of stock last December. It must be nice to be able to take that much money off the table, and still be a major stakeholder.

      I wonder if he will simply take time to enjoy life, or perhaps he has a new pet project that has piqued his interest.

      Best wishes Michael, and thanks for all the magazine covers.

    4. Re:Dude.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Yeah, quit hoggin all the teabagging!

    5. Re:Dude.... by Mixel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe he's gonna sue SCO.. or battle the RIAA. Hmm, he's got truckloads of money and there are so many possibilities these days.

    6. Re:Dude.... by Gherald · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sad that I first heard about this story over here...

    7. Re:Dude.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Best wishes Michael, and thanks for all the magazine covers

      Not to mention the the steamy centerfolds! Rrrrawrr!!

    8. Re:Dude.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's stepping down to spend more time with his possessions :-)

    9. Re:Dude.... by t0ny · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Mike Dell is really following intelligent business. The jobs of CEO and Chairman, while it looks good on your resume to hold both, are really two jobs with completely different responsibilities, and unless its a really small corp, they should really be done by two separate people.

      It was all the rage in the dot-bomb era, but as usually reality comes crashing back in, demonstrating that there really IS a reason businesses run the way they do. So kudos to MD, who went out on top, unlike Eisner who had to be forced out. But the difference between the two is that MD is looking out for his company, and Eisner is looking out for Eisner.

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    10. Re:Dude.... by Zeinfeld · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Mike Dell is really following intelligent business. The jobs of CEO and Chairman, while it looks good on your resume to hold both, are really two jobs with completely different responsibilities, and unless its a really small corp, they should really be done by two separate people.

      The problem being that to do the job of chairman effectively you usually have to have been the ex-CEO. So michael Dell is only following the normal practice for a founder, giving up the day to day running of the business and keeping the long term governance position.

      The dotcom startups were not really abberations here. There is not much point in having a chairman in a company that is only a few years old. if the management team are crooks or jerks then the truck is going to hit the wall and all the investors will lose their money in any case.

      What was an abberation was when the long established companies started running themselves in this way. Michael Eisener did not create Disney, he should not have unfettered control. He should not be paid so much for such mediocre results.

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    11. Re:Dude.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hm. Would you say the same of Microsoft and Bill Gates?

    12. Re:Dude.... by Insipid+Trunculance · · Score: 1

      I think this is American corporations borrowing British titles.

      In Britain,there is a Chairman of the Board who has executive responsibilities and the Managing director who carries out the day to day operations.

      In the US,there is a President of the Board who correspondingly is also the Chief Executive Officer and therefore there is a Chief Operating Officer for day to day running of the company.

      I think the attempts to have a seperate Chairman and CEO/President are mere sops to the ego of the american oligarchs.

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  2. Just what Dell needs` by _Sexy_Pants_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    a bad*ss like Henry Rollins tearin' it up as CEO. "CUZ I'M A LIAR!"

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    1. Re:Just what Dell needs` by vanillacoke · · Score: 1, Redundant

      i thought of Henry rollins as well. Come in there kick some intern ass!

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    2. Re:Just what Dell needs` by _Sexy_Pants_ · · Score: 1

      Possible marketing stunt?

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    3. Re:Just what Dell needs` by slasher999 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Yeah, that was the first person I thought of!

    4. Re:Just what Dell needs` by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      Just heard TV Party on the radio yesterday (to my wife asking "what the hell is this?") Would make for some interesting board meetings and competition.

    5. Re:Just what Dell needs` by Shoten · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, I think that'll be in their new ad campaign...

      'Cause IT'S A NOTEBOOK! Yeah, IT'S A NOTEBOOK! It's more expensive , BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO MAKE!

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    6. Re:Just what Dell needs` by PunkPig · · Score: 1

      Rollins is a Mac guy

    7. Re:Just what Dell needs` by macthulhu · · Score: 1

      Not to be a nitpicking pain in the ass (OH, wait, this IS Slashdot...), but Hank is a Mac user. He was even in one of the "What do you have on your Powerbook" print ads opposite some record company assclown. Of course, as the hardest working man in show business, if Henry wanted to run Dell, who's going to stop him? DRINKIN' BLACK COFFEE! BLACK COFFEE! DRINKIN' BLACK COFFEE! STARING AT THE WALL!

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  3. Damn. by pclminion · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Dude, you're getting a Rollins" just doesn't have the same ring to it...

    1. Re:Damn. by mcpkaaos · · Score: 4, Funny

      They could always just say...

      "Dude, you're getting rolled!"

      At least it would have a ring of truth to it. :)

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    2. Re:Damn. by operagost · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Not only is your sig a real troll for a simple slip of the tongue, but that syntax is acceptable in the U.K. So unless your intent was to insult a lot of Brits, you might want to change it.

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    3. Re:Damn. by snarkh · · Score: 1


      Can you explain how it is acceptable?

    4. Re:Damn. by mcpkaaos · · Score: 1

      Dude, I'm getting trolled!

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  4. Re:somebody tell me why is this .... by Zonnald · · Score: 5, Funny

    As compared to ....

    You stepping down?

  5. The Dell in Dell by lewko · · Score: 4, Funny

    So if Michael Dell is stepping down and Kevin Rollins is taking over, does this mean I will soon be able to buy a PC with Rollins written on the case?

    Awesome!

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    1. Re:The Dell in Dell by espo812 · · Score: 0
      does this mean I will soon be able to buy a PC with Rollins written on the case? Awesome!
      Only awesome if Henry comes with it to kick people's asses.
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    2. Re:The Dell in Dell by TheKidWho · · Score: 5, Funny

      No it will be shortened to Rolls, you can add the Royce sticker by yourself.

    3. Re:The Dell in Dell by zephc · · Score: 2, Funny

      i liked Kevin Rollins way back when he was in Black Flag

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    4. Re:The Dell in Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would it be delivered in a big yellow Dell truck?

  6. To: Next Employer by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Dude, you're getting a Dell.

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  7. Who really cares?? by calandryll · · Score: 0, Troll

    I don't think this will change anything in the world. Unlike Eisner stepping down, it won't change shit.

  8. Why? by XplosiveX · · Score: 1, Interesting

    CEO's are in the top 10 for highest paid jobs in North America.

    1. Re:Why? by MissMarvel · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps he's interested in plumbing. Ya think?

    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because the Mafia doesnt pay like it used to ?
      who needs to win a lottery, just become a CEO

    3. Re:Why? by Dukael_Mikakis · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yeah, but for many people (especially CEOs, after a while) such decisions have nothing to do with pay. Many of these CEOs work up the ladder (or establish the company, in Dell's case) put in the effort and the hours, earn hundreds of millions of dollars, and don't see any reason to continue working, even though they might make $500K, $1M.

      It says that he had softened his role previously, working on big picture issues, and all the things that are sort of fun to do and don't necessarily generate a hard product, so it probably won't change anything. Probably he just got burned out and wanted to do regattas, Larry Ellison-style.

    4. Re:Why? by dilby · · Score: 1

      Yes, and you have to pay everyone $50 when your the chairman of the board.

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    5. Re:Why? by djtripp · · Score: 1

      Then again Michael Dell doesn't have a PhD. And the closest any CEO comes to plumbing is jiggling the handle on the toilet.

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    6. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, don't you think he has already earned more than he and his descendant
      could reasonable ever spend?

    7. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      please mod up +5, takes a while to get while stoned, and when gotten, is really fuckin hilarious!

    8. Re:Why? by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Maybe he saw this advert:

      Senior Plumbing Architect wanted

      You will have over 10+ years experience in the plumbing trade, be Corgi approved, and must have experience in the following: Mira Excel/Form/88/Advance/Extreme/Elite 2 and also Bristan Java/Omega/1901/Pinnacle. Experience with Triton, Aqualisa is desirable but not required as training will be provided. Your duties will include mentoring junior plumbers and providing feedback when required. You will also be expected to draw up specifications and cost estimates when necessary. As you will be meeting customers face to face, you will be expected to dress appropriately. A toolkit and company subsidized transport will also be available.

      Salary: Negotiable

    9. Re:Why? by highwindarea · · Score: 1

      I'm currently looking for work and that was freakishly realistic

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    10. Re:Why? by kommakazi · · Score: 1

      I'm stoned and I got it right away. Maybe you're just slow?

    11. Re:Why? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 0, Troll
      American CEO's are too expensive. In India you can get one who has a professional college degree and will work for a measily 80k a year!

      What value to our shareholders will an American bring over an Indian one? We should maximize value and bring in Indian ones. We can increase productivity by record numbers!

  9. So Much for AtAT Plot Lines... by the+pickle · · Score: 5, Funny

    He didn't even wait to copycat Steve on this one! What a shame!

    p

  10. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    must have something to do with exponential growth of Lunux on desktops, which I am told is happening

    No kidding. Two years ago 1, last year there were 2, this year: 4!

  11. Mikes computer by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

    But how will I know what model computer Mike uses now?!? Please tell me they will continue that page.

    1. Re:Mikes computer by rjstanford · · Score: 2

      Which page is this? Link please...

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    2. Re:Mikes computer by Serk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Go here - Michael Dell's Page Then click Michael on the menu bar at the top, and go to "Michael's Computers"

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    3. Re:Mikes computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit, its gone!

    4. Re:Mikes computer by paradesign · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Nope, it only works in IE, not Firefox.

      Hmmmmm? Wonder why?

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    5. Re:Mikes computer by tupps · · Score: 2, Funny

      You have just shown yourself to be an IE user! The menu only works in IE, here is the page:

      http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/global.as px /corp/michael/en/computers?c=us&l=en&s=cor p

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    6. Re:Mikes computer by Serk · · Score: 2, Funny

      Totally off topic, but I hafta defend myself... Actually, I'm a FireFox user, but noticed the page wasn't working in FireFox, so I said a quick prayer, sprinkled some chicken blood on my computer for luck, and fired up IE to get the page...

      Shoulda just put a disclaimer in the original post...

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    7. Re:Mikes computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shitty webmaster?

    8. Re:Mikes computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It works just fine with Opera, and if you want all the features they will copy in the next version of mozilla, you might be interested in Opera

    9. Re:Mikes computer by Fraize · · Score: 1

      How 'bout 'cause IE has greater than 96% penetration at Dell?

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    10. Re:Mikes computer by netsharc · · Score: 1

      P-IV 3.06 GHz, 2 x 120 GB SATA, 6.1 Speakers... does he really get the latest high end machine delivered to his house (and use it) or is that page just an ad so that Dell fanboys buy the same thing?

      But damn, he's got me jealous for one.

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    11. Re:Mikes computer by ckaminski · · Score: 1

      Yeah, Microsoft and Intel sure do seem to have about 96% penetration in Michael Dell...

    12. Re:Mikes computer by tupps · · Score: 1

      Well I did the same, although I use a mix of Mozilla and Firefox, it was only when both of those didn't work that I tried the evil one.

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    13. Re:Mikes computer by tupps · · Score: 1

      Why wouldn't he. They probably write the cost off on tax as well :-) I am surprised that he doesn't have one of there top of the line dual proc workstations, like one of the Precision 650 Workstation.

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    14. Re:Mikes computer by AeroIllini · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So Michael has this fabulously fast machine, one that rivals the computing power of God Himself, and he uses it to...

      - Play games? No time. He's an executive.
      - Compile sophisticated code? Hahahahaha....
      - Find the billionth digit of pi? You've got to be kidding.

      No, most likely he simply...

      - Types emails in Outlook (perhaps with bold text)
      - Writes memos and other executive-type papers in Word
      - Surfs the internet
      - Uses Dell's in-house accounting software
      - Makes pretty presentations in PowerPoint

      But then again, probably 80%* of the desktop population has many magnitudes more machine than they require. I'm waiting for the day when a computer company realizes that a computer does not have to be the end-all electronic appliance in a home. A glorified toaster for Office, web browsing, and email would suffice for the masses, if they can get their gaming fix from a console. Those of us with real computing needs can get the real computers.

      * Warning! Made-up statistic!

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    15. Re:Mikes computer by Adrick42 · · Score: 1

      OK, here is the link without the spaces. Michael's Computers

      http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx /corp/michael/en/computers?c=us&l=en&s=cor p
    16. Re:Mikes computer by I8TheWorm · · Score: 1

      Shhhhhh... don't tell them that! When the blue haired grandmothers that need nothing more than e-mail machines stop buying high end processors, the money will dry up for R&D at Intel/AMD. Then folks like us will have to pay even more for upgrades!

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    17. Re:Mikes computer by cartermb · · Score: 1

      ....probably 80%*..... * Warning! Made-up statistic! Don't you know that 80% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

    18. Re:Mikes computer by cartermb · · Score: 1

      Exactly the point. Those folks that are paying $2300 for a high end machine to do "work for school" (like my brother-in-law) are subsidizing the ability for the rest of us to get machines that do what we really *need* them to do at lower costs. So I say let them continue. And I will continue to buy my wife $350 desktops and keep myself in the latest laptops for reasonable prices. Thanks Dell Dude. We couldn't have done it without you. Now go have another toke.

    19. Re:Mikes computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why is "play games" in the top list? Isn't that something weak little noobs(users) do with their computers? compiling code and pi are definitely things elitists would use a computer for. Why not replace it with ...hax0r teh gibson?

    20. Re:Mikes computer by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      Actually, it worked in Opera 7.50p2, set to ID as MSIE 6.0.

  12. So basically no change here... by overbyj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone like Dell will not go quietly into night. Even though his title is changing, nobody believes that he still won't have a profound influence over the company. It is his baby. THis will most likely be like Gates and MS. Sure, his title is different than what it used to be but he certainly still has a tremendous influence.

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    1. Re:So basically no change here... by gatorflux · · Score: 1

      I also get the feeling that Dell is your typical entrepreneur in that as soon as he builds one successful business, he's ready to build another. People like that never retire.

    2. Re:So basically no change here... by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know why. If I had that much money I wouldn't care what happened to my company, I'd be too busy plumbing the depths of debauchery that such money can bring.

    3. Re:So basically no change here... by scottj · · Score: 3, Informative

      Most of Mr. Dell's money is in the company. Sure, he's taken a lot out, but the majority of it is in his Dell stock.

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    4. Re:So basically no change here... by tomstdenis · · Score: 5, Funny

      Good then as his first order of new business he can give me a job!

      Or do I have to move to India first?

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    5. Re:So basically no change here... by E-Rock · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Usually, when you build something from day one and end up a multi-billlionaire, it wasn't about the money. Money isn't the point of the game, it's just one of the ways to keep score.

    6. Re:So basically no change here... by Twisted+Mind · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If I had that much money I wouldn't care what happened to my company
      Maybe that's why you don't have that much money ;-).
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    7. Re:So basically no change here... by SnappleMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is the reason why people like Dell have all that money but people like you and me don't.

      If you're the kind of person who would retire after the first couple million and spend the rest of your life knee-deep in booze and cheap women, you won't ever have that kind of money! Sad, but true... Dell/Gates/etc don't keep working for the money. You could add or subtract a few zeros to their net worth and it wouldn't matter either way. They do it because they don't want to do anything else.

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    8. Re:So basically no change here... by DissidentHere · · Score: 1

      Ob Office Space:

      "Lawernce, what would you do if you had a million dollars?"

      "Two chicks at the same time"

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    9. Re:So basically no change here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just keep living in your sheltered Slashdot brainwashed world. Money doesn't matter to them, they'd keep on doing it even if they were making $40000 a year. Shyeah right.

    10. Re:So basically no change here... by Unregistered · · Score: 1

      Rawanda. India is too elite for Dell

    11. Re:So basically no change here... by nomadic · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you're the kind of person who would retire after the first couple million and spend the rest of your life knee-deep in booze and cheap women, you won't ever have that kind of money

      I find that offensive. If I had that much money I wouldn't be consorting with cheap women, I'd be consorting with EXPENSIVE women.

    12. Re:So basically no change here... by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      I don't know why. If I had that much money I wouldn't care what happened to my company, I'd be too busy plumbing the depths of debauchery that such money can bring.

      See? That's what's wrong with money. It makes everyone that doesn't have a lot of it fantasize about what they would do if they had it.

      So, once you've got all you can handle (assuming you don't have a fetish for excessive fur sinks or gasoline-powered sweaters), what to do?

      Power-playing to feed the needy ego? Oneupmanship games with the similarly rich? Donating to open source software efforts in a big way?

      Personally, after having all the hookers and booze I could tolerate, I'd go for donating to OSS movement. And saving the environment, of course. I'll call you back after the hooker part, K?

    13. Re:So basically no change here... by nettdata · · Score: 2, Funny

      Except for that cool Billion that he cashed out last December, of course.

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    14. Re:So basically no change here... by sapbasisnerd · · Score: 1

      There are some interesting ways that this does not appear to be like Gates and MS. In that case Bill and company spent a looong time postitioning Uncle Fester for a promotion, sticking him in front of the wall street types etc. by the time the change was formally announced it was pretty ho-hum because it was so thoroughly foreshadowed. This seems to have come out of the blue which 99 times out of 100 means something is afoot likely a major shareholder is angry about something and this is the first not so gentle poke out onto the plank for Mikey. If looking for a parallel I'd be more inclined to think Ken Olsen than Bill Gates. If this was just about job splitting to improve the appearance of governance this would have been foreshadowed more.

  13. There's a pattern here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    First Michael Eisner, now Michael Dell.... Next week, maybe the Darls will go (just a thought...)

    1. Re:There's a pattern here... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      it's the fact that they're named "Michael" not that they're CEOs that's causing them to quit.

      maybe Michael Powell will quit being the FCC chairman?

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    2. Re:There's a pattern here... by ncc74656 · · Score: 3, Funny
      it's the fact that they're named "Michael" not that they're CEOs that's causing them to quit.

      maybe Michael Powell will quit being the FCC chairman?

      Personally, I think it'd be more useful if michael got the heave-ho.

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  14. New Perspective by LacroixDP · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Dell has gone a long way in the industry and has helped computing for the masses under Michael Dell's leadership. However, I'm hopefull the new CEO will increase the declining quality of Dell's products. I believe that their cost-cutting measures have really injured their corporate following; they aren't perceived as being as high of quality as they once were.

    1. Re: New Perspective by spideyct · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The "new CEO" Kevin Rollins has been running the show for at least a year. This is simply a title change. Do not expect any noticable change in Dell operations or direction, based on this change.

    2. Re:New Perspective by crimoid · · Score: 1

      I'm no expert on Dell's products, but I've rolled out over $500K worth of their server products over the past 5 years and all I've seen are steady increases in quality. What were once glorified PC's are now matching IBM (and others) in both features and quality (and remaining MUCH cheaper).

      Now on the desktop and (especially) laptop side of Dell's business I'm in total agreement with you.

  15. Dell Steps Down by pyrrhonist · · Score: 5, Funny

    Said Dell, "It just got to the point where I was so damn rich, It just wasn't fun any more."

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    1. Re:Dell Steps Down by palutke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's probably not too far from the truth. At some point, I'd probably lose motivation if I had more money than I could possibly spend.

      Hell, there are days now when I don't have much motivation, and I'm just a lowly mechanical engineer.

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    2. Re:Dell Steps Down by Bendebecker · · Score: 1

      Hey dude, if you got too much money, I'll be happy to take some off your hands.

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    3. Re:Dell Steps Down by wass · · Score: 5, Funny
      Actually, the conversation went more like this:

      Mr. Dell : I would like to step down as CEO. Here's my written statement.
      Boardroom Exec : Whoa, that's one helluva doozy, your memo doesn't look right. Are you sure the power cord is plugged in to your computer?
      Mr. Dell : Yes, this isn't a computer issue at all. I want to step down as CEO. Let's elect someone else.
      Boardroom Exec : No, that cannot be right. Okay, reboot your computer and try printing our your memo again. That should fix the problem.
      Mr. Dell : No you nitwit, I just want to resign. I know it, and I want us all to elect a new CEO.
      Boardroom Exec : Okay okay, now I know what's wrong. Before we do anything else I want you to reinstall these drivers on your computer and then give me the memo again. That should really fix the problem this time.
      Mr. Dell : Argh, I don't have time for this crap. I know what I want to do, just listen to me. I've been running the show for years, and now I know I want to leave. Let's convene a chairholder's meeting now.
      Boardroom Exec : No, we cannot do that yet. It wasn't a driver issue, so it must be the OS. Before we convene any meetings you'll have to reinstall windows on your computer so we can all make sure this is a legit memo. I'll hold as you do that .......
      Mr. DellAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!

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    4. Re:Dell Steps Down by addaon · · Score: 1

      If money is your primary source of motivation, it's time to change jobs.

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    5. Re:Dell Steps Down by SnappleMaster · · Score: 4, Informative

      In a related (and 100% true) note:

      Two weeks ago I cancelled an order for a $1400 projector with Dell because that morning they send me an email saying the projector would be shipping in the middle of March. 15 minutes on hold and the call is disconnected by gremlins. Next try: 45 minutes (yes, really) on the phone and the order is cancelled. I'm a little steamed at this point about the phone time but oh well.

      Three days after that I got an email from Dell saying that the projector had shipped. I call Dell. 20 minutes (quick this time, ROFL) later I have my marching orders: "when the projector arrives just refuse delivery". Sounds good to me. I am only slightly pissed off.

      The projector arrives two days early so my "DHL: I refuse delivery of Dell's package" sign is not yet hung up on my door. DHL leaves the package on my doorstep. This is a $1400 item, shipped without "signature required". WTF? Now I am annoyed.

      The next day I call Dell. Hold time is less than 3 minutes but it still takes 30 minutes for the Customer Care chick to arrange DHL pickup at my house. At the end of the call she asks, "are you satisfied with Dell's service in this matter"? I laugh, exert all my force of will to refrain from swearing, and say "no I am not ".

      The next day the package is picked up. Finally! I assume in 2 weeks Dell will charge my VISA for the order and I'll get to do it all again.

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    6. Re:Dell Steps Down by Sabalon · · Score: 1

      Yeah...except he probably had to talk to an outsourced boardroom in India.

    7. Re:Dell Steps Down by peeon · · Score: 1

      Outsourced broadroom exec?

  16. Re:Hmm by Reid · · Score: 5, Funny

    You won't be laughing in 20 years!

  17. Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is not a troll, really. I'm just surprised they said something sorta like "Michael will think about The Next Big Thing (tm)" when they are just a hyper-efficient marketing arm/merchandizing facade for Intel. "Dell and R&D" don't go together in my mind, contrary to "Apple and R&D" or "IBM and R&D". Dell is nothing more than a glorified Northgate (or Everex, whatever).

    No, IMO, this does not jive. Either M. Dell has other objectives (politics, maybe, I dunno) or there was some sort of back-stage coup.

    1. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I once got to speak with a fairly high-up person in Dell. Our VP was keen to switch from Compaq (pre HP merger) and had known this guy for years. So I call the guy, and he asks why I preferred Compaq. One of the reasons I cited was Compaq's history of contributing technology and otherwise pushing the industry forward a little bit. His reply: "Yeah, our strategy is pretty much to let Compaq do the work and then just copy them and sell it cheaper."

      Now, this didn't really surprise me, as I've been in the industry a long time and knew that was pretty much the case. What stunned me was that he not only admitted it, but seemed proud of it. From that point on, I had yet another reason to never buy from them.

    2. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Dell is nothing more than a glorified Northgate (or Everex, whatever).

      Actually, IIRC, Dell was the one of, or the, first companies to market computers directly to consumers, which basically revolutionized the computer market.
      I listened to a speech by Michael Dell in which he started the company with $1,000.

      Now that's skill.

      --Happy Dell customer

    3. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if your company doesn't need bleeding-edge technology, why not go with what is cheaper?

    4. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well Northgate did the samething, which is probably why the original poster mentioned them.

      A little background for the kids: In ye olden days, if you wanted to buy a Compaq or IBM etc, you had to go to a "reseller" who usually had about a 20% markup. It took these companies a long time to adapt to Dell's direct sales success.

    5. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by craenor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, Dell pushes tons of research and development. It's just not done in house.

      When Dell squeezes more features into a portable, desktop, pda or server, how do you think they do it? They go to their vendors and tell them what they want a product to be able to do, then their vendors trip over themselves to develop just that very thing so Dell will buy it.

      That alone has spurred more change and inovation in the computer industry then most people would believe.

    6. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The company's technological innovation may be questionable, but Michael Dell was a visionary, in terms of the marketing and distribution of computers. Back when I was schlepping my fresh college transcript to possible employers asking for a job (Dell and I are the same age), he was taking out ads in computer trade magazines for built-to-order "PC's Limited Turbo XT" clones, sold through the mail or over the phone, with competent phone tech support and on-site service available. No storefront. No sales force. And affordable prices, because you were buying directly from the manufacturer (assembly plant, actually).

      I wish I could say that I liked the idea so much I bought the company, but all I could afford at the time was to buy one of the machines. (Heck, that's about all my current budget could afford, either.) It's how everyone does this stuff today (with order-placing over the net instead of by phone/mail), but it was considered a kinda crazy business model in the mid-1980's, and he made a go of it... and made it work.

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    7. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by El · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The man is a genius, not in technology, but in understanding supply chains, distribution, and margins. Computers are a strange industry -- you can practically watch them lose value as they sit on the shelf. The company that best implements "just-in-time" delivery of parts and just-in-time assembly in an industry where suppliers are notorious for playing games, can operate with lowest margins, and thus wins on grounds of price/performance. Dell has obviously been more successful in doing this then others, notably HP/Compaq.

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    8. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dell transformed a dorm room operation at the University of Texas to one of the world's largest corporations in part by focusing on concrete issues--such as improving delivery time, cutting operation costs and maintaining customer service--rather than trying to establish new markets, according to analysts and former employees.

      The Round Rock, Texas-based company now regularly trades the top spot in the PC market with Hewlett-Packard, but that situation wasn't always on the cards. Packard-Bell, Compaq Computer, Osborne, Zenith, and AT&T were all bigger--or had access to greater funding through corporate parents--than Dell had, at times over the past 20 years.

      "They were the first to pretend that (the PC) wasn't a specialty thing. They've always taken a pragmatic approach to things," said Roger Kay, an analyst at IDC. "He (Dell) doesn't see it as a personal quest."

    9. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Either M. Dell has other objectives (politics, maybe, I dunno) or there was some sort of back-stage coup.
      ...or maybe he sees the coming business disaster caused by the massive US deficits? maybe he doesn't want to be around for that and is cashing out at the top? Oh it's coming all right - either a massive crash and depression, or more likely a decade (like the 70s) of high interest, inflation, unemployment, low corporate profits, tight credit, lack of business investment, etc.

    10. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Give me a break, that's not innovation. That's purchasing power.

      Dell makes money selling cheap boxes. They're very good at improving margins, and copying trends that are set by companys that truly innovate, but they are not imaginative and haven't been the first to come up with anything that I can think of.

      Dell's a shrewd company, and has been well run. But as far as R&D and innovation, give credit where it is due, and that isn't Dell.

    11. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by hachete · · Score: 2, Insightful

      umm. That's sounds more like Walmart. Maybe Dell does sell bananas after all

      h.

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    12. Re:Michael Dell, visonnaire??? by cartermb · · Score: 1

      Actually it was just to appease shareholders. This is all about corporate governance. When a company is as large as Dell, it shouldn't have all that power locked up in one person. So the chairman and the CEO should be separate. The name is strictly that, though. Dell and Rollins have been doing the same things for about a year. Gradually Dell is stepping out of the day-to-day and becoming more of the visionary (similar to Bill's exodus a couple of years ago) and this title change was just a small step in that long process. Don't expect much immediate change, but do expect that Rollins will continue to drive operations the way he has to try to best execute Michael's visions. Actually, in last week's Newsweek magazine, Rollins was quoted as saying (sic) "I will never be CEO. Michael isn't going anywhere." So I imagine that the title change was not in the works long and that it was a direct response to either shareholder or board opinion that the roles should be separated, since as a public company, it's really not Michael's company any more, it's mine (Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.......AH, AH , ah, ah, ah, ah...all mine!).

  18. Dell said that research is overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dell said at Oracle conference in SF last year that SUN and HP spend too much on overrated research and development and consequently are driving the cost of their systems up even higher.

    He should be fired now.

    1. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      He built his fortune leveraging other companies' R&D.

    2. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sun at least has flushed far too much money down the toliet on SPARC development.

    3. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's right. There has to be a financial reward at the end of all that research else you drive the company into massive debt. Take Sun for instance, they continue pooring R&D money into SPARC, despite the double digit market share loss to x86.

      Profit should be the first and foremost goal of any company.

    4. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by addaon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Profit should be the first and foremost goal of any company.

      Why?

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    5. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by dresgarcia · · Score: 1

      if a company does not profit it cannot pay its employees, it cannot expand, it cannot research new areas. Once a company has profit it can spend that money on something else. Why do you think all the dot coms failed? NO PROFIT

    6. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by addaon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      if a company does not profit it cannot pay its employees

      Why? Profit is calculated after expenses. ... it cannot expand

      So what? ... it cannot research new areas

      So what?

      Why do you think all the dot coms failed?

      Less income than expenses.

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    7. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by bonhomme_de_neige · · Score: 1
      Profit should be the first and foremost goal of any company.
      Why?

      Because, a company is owned by shareholders. When people buy shares, they're buying a portion (a 'share' ;p) of the profits of that company. Once the company makes a profit, it must distribute it as dividends to its shareholders.

      Shareholders want dividends (not strictly true, but to explain that would require too much typing - read a 1st year finance textbook - and it has no effect on the follwing arguments), so if they believe that a company won't make any profits, and that they won't be getting dividends, they'll be wanting to sell those shares (no reason to keep them).

      Once everyone wants to sell, the share price will be driven down. Now, owning >50% of the shares gives you control of the company. The company also has assets, which have a market value if sold. If the value of the shares becomes less than the value of the assets, then anyone with enough money can do the following:

      1. Buy a controlling portion (or more) of the shares, that is, just over 50%.
      2. They now control the company, so just sell all the assets (and fire all the employees), and take the money. It will be more than what you paid for the shares, hence...
      3. Profit!

      As you can see, that's a sure profit scheme without that ubiquitous and annoying "???". It's called "corporate takeover". So, to recap:

      • Companies don't want to be victims of corporate takeover. Hence they want to maintain the value of their shares to be above the value of their assets.
      • In order to do that, people must want to own their shares. People won't want that unless they know they will receive dividends (*handwave*, but justified - prove me wrong, I dare you ;p). Hence companies need to pay dividends to their shareholders.
      • In order to have money with which to pay dividends, companies must make profit.

      Hopefully that answers your question ... because of it, I can no longer moderate in this thread. I hope you're happy. Grr.

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    8. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    9. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by addaon · · Score: 1

      Sorry, it doesn't answer my question.

      Because, a company is owned by shareholders

      This is not universally true. As a result, your answer is not universally applicable.

      In particular, non-profit organizations don't always aim to make a profit.

      Nor do some family-run businesses, which intend to be sustainable, not grow.

      I'm sorry if you can no longer moderate in this thread as a result, but the silly idea that everything must be done with profit in mind is one of the major forces that I see as destroying our civilization, and you've fallen for it hook line and sinker.

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    10. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by sophos00 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      While I don't necessarily disagree with what you're trying to say, the ultimate answer to your question is that we live in a capitalist country.

      In a capitalist system the basic notion is that by generating a profit for it's owners, a company will strive to be more effective in whatever manner consumers want them to be. Strictly in terms of economic theory, what drives a person to start a family business or branch an existing company into a new market is that it will make them big bucks.

      Now, what you seem to be saying is that such a system does not yield the intended results. I, personally agree with you, but the current consensus amongst economists is that it's still the best system there is. But really, your question shouldn't be "why are companies striving for a profit" but "is there a better system of motivation for a global market other than personal greed."

      Unfortunately, I think the answer is no.

    11. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 1

      "Profit should be the first and foremost goal of any company.

      Why?
      "

      Because he's an American

      Why does the human want a cup of tea?

    12. Re:Dell said that research is overrated by addaon · · Score: 1

      I think we're violently agreeing. :-) My question wasn't "why are (most) companies striving for a profit?" but "why do people think that /all/ companies must strive for a profit?" Is there a better motivation? For most cases, probably not, but it isn't good to put down the thousands or millions of workers who /do/ have a better motivation.

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  19. And when we say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And when we say "sticking around as chairman of the board", we mean "snorting cocaine off the backs of hookers on his yacht".

    1. Re:And when we say by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think it will be off their backs.

  20. This is similar to Bill Gates stepping down... by b0r0din · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We all know who the puppetmaster is. You don't have to wear all the hats to still be the man behind the curtain. This doesn't surprise me, Dell's quality has suffered in recent months and it wouldn't surprise me if he was doing this to take some of the pressure off of himself.

    I think this is actually a very wise move by Dell, because while this is a guy who started a business on his own and became extremely good at it, I would be surprised (I honestly don't know) if he was that business school MBA who can lead a company over the long run. Plus, if Rollins messes up, he can always blame the new CEO for all the problems.

    1. Re:This is similar to Bill Gates stepping down... by El_Ge_Ex · · Score: 1

      This is similar to Bill Gates stepping down...

      Not it isn't. You guys are _still_ fooled that Gates is the one making hte business decisions. It was Ballmer all along and it _still_ is. They broke out laughing when you let Ballmer "replace" gates.

      but that's just my opinion... I could be wrong.

      -B

    2. Re:This is similar to Bill Gates stepping down... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would be surprised (I honestly don't know) if he was that business school MBA who can lead a company over the long run.

      Actually, Michael is pretty much the antithesis of the business-school MBA type. He started PC's (sic) Limited from his dorm room at the University of Texas, spent all his time building computers instead of doing his homework, and eventually flunked out of school.

      Fast-forward a few years: having already made his first five or ten million bucks, Dell wanted to take some business administration classes to get a clue about, well, building and operating a large business. UT took one look at his prior transcript and suggested a nice community-college extension course in underwater aromatherapy instead.

      Nice move, guys. You're looking for donors to build that new $100M research facility, and here's a famous alumnus who probably spent that much on lunch. Too bad you told him to go pound sand back in the day, huh?

  21. had enough of by va3atc · · Score: 1

    1 Dell way, dude?

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  22. I first read "... Darl steps down as CEO" by fedork · · Score: 1

    ... you really see what you want to see. I almost jumped with joy, but then reread.... And I do not care about Dell.

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    1. Re:I first read "... Darl steps down as CEO" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You read "Michael Dell" as "Darl"?

      You thought "Darl" would be run as the headline, not "Darl McBride"?

      These "double take" jokes are being stretched way too far.

  23. No More Pay Cuts by xeon4life · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe under this new leadership Dell will stop it's massive pay cuts to ensure it will have enough money for it's "10K A Day Giveaway."

    I would know. My dad is one of the best Dell's licensing sales rep in his building and went from making bank (compared to what he used to make at Circuit City) to making near $60,000. Not only was it shocking at the time, it was appalling when two days later Dell announced it's "10K A Day Giveaway," not to mention the massive payroll cuts a few weeks after that.

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    1. Re:No More Pay Cuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      My dad is one of the best Dell's licensing sales rep in his building
      No offense, but $10 says that every person in your dads building thinks that _they_ are one of the best sales reps...

      and went from making bank (compared to what he used to make at Circuit City) to making near $60,000.
      I hate to break it to ya, but $60k a year is pretty damn good money for someone who sits on a phone all day selling Dells to people who were going to buy Dells anyway....

    2. Re:No More Pay Cuts by xeon4life · · Score: 1

      No offense, but $10 says that every person in your dads building thinks that _they_ are one of the best sales reps...
      Not when the real best rep gets $50,000 to spend at a local motorbike dealer.

      I hate to break it to ya, but $60k a year is pretty damn good money for someone who sits on a phone all day selling Dells to people who were going to buy Dells anyway....
      Licenses, not computers. Also, it is hard when the bills you thought you were always going to be able to pay end up becoming a burden to keep up with.

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    3. Re:No More Pay Cuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First prize is a new Cadillac.
      Second prize is a set of steak knives.
      Third prize is you're fired.

      It has ever been so, in the computer-sales business. Your father could have (should have?) listened to twenty years of burned-out salesmen who wore the headsets at Dell before him.

    4. Re:No More Pay Cuts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, it sure sucks to make so much money that you borrow so much you can't afford to pay it back if you lose your job.

      I hope you learned a lesson from it, at least..

    5. Re:No More Pay Cuts by NateTech · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You do understand that to a very large percentage of people right here in the U.S. (not some small underdeveloped nation) that $60K a year would be "making bank"?

      Go hang around a homeless shelter for a while and do some volunteering, it might get that snooty attitude off your face. Or just spend one afternoon sitting in the waiting room of an unemployment office. Best yet, just buy some poor kids toys at Christmas and realize they're that poor YEAR 'ROUND.

      Those of us that lived through layoffs that turned into weeks, months, and then who breathed a sigh of relief when just over the 1-year line -- a job was found -- hoorah -- don't have any sympathy for someone who's held a job after "making bank" and now claims to be struggling on a reasonable middle-class salary. Pffft. Whatever.

      Seriously man, I agree with you that many large U.S. corporations are mismanaged, but get a grip on reality about money -- just by living in the U.S. you're already more prviledged than well over 2/3's of the world's population.

      Your dad went through a massive paycut because PC's are becoming a commodity item -- study up on some economics.

      Commodity items don't need salespeople -- people just buy them on their way home from work every day. Milk, bread, and cheese. Ya know?

      PC's are close to that... not quite there, and because of their complexity won't ever quite get there. But for those of us that know them well and use them, yeah... I know I can go get a machine I can turn into a busy server in half an hour down the road at any store, and the hardware will run me about $350 right now no matter where I get it. Dell has to give me a reason NOT to buy it locally -- so they either have to have a higher quality product for the same price, or they have to have a lower price than the local store.

      Guess what else commodity items have to do? Differentiate themselves from all the other commodity products. Dell's "10K a day giveaway" is one (misguided, I agree) way to try to do that. They're trying to SAVE your dad's job, you doofus.

      Personally I think they build mediocre machines with decent longevity for just under median prices. That's a "reasonable" place to be if their margins are big enough to survive bumps in the road. I know I can save about $50 buying a Dell... then it comes down to whether or not I want to wait to have it shipped to me.

      But no PC or software or "license" salesman is ever going to "make bank" ever again.

      Time for pops to either specialize or find something else people are paying lots of money for... the PC boom is over. Long over.

      Big screen TV's and HDTV seem to be starting up the front side of the curve again, and if the economy takes off (it will, sooner or later) and diposable income rises, people will be slappin' down the cash for HDTV sets that cost three to ten times as much as a PC to produce (and the prices will start down, drastically, which will signal my usual "buy time" for such items if I feel like buying one).

      Equal commision percentage, dad would be "bringin' home the bacon" again. So, that Circuit City job may not be so bad nowadays... and at the very least you'd have a nice discount on buying one.

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  24. He's no Frank by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    He's still planning on sticking around as chairman of the board.

    I wouldn't want that job, trying to be the next Sinatra.
  25. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You won't be laughing in 20 years!

    The joke's on you. I'll be dead in 20 years. Who's laughing now?

  26. 'Cause I'm a LIAR by VitrosChemistryAnaly · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Michael Dell is calling it quits as CEO of Dell, and has named Kevin Rollins..."

    Oh man, it'd be so much cooler if he named Henry Rollins as his successor. There would really be some ass kicking going on then...

    Dude, you're getting a fucking punch in the face!!!

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    1. Re:'Cause I'm a LIAR by SpyPlane · · Score: 2, Funny

      If it was Henry, then he would have enough money to implement his plan to buy every hot woman a 357 magnum. His idea was, to give em' all guns, so the next time they're walking by a contruction site and some chicken s&*# worker yells something from 6 stories up, the woman can at least shoot back.

      I thought it was a good idea.

      Sorry, incredibly offtopic.

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    2. Re:'Cause I'm a LIAR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost every contract nowadays for an position as an officer has a contract clause. You are typically paid a decreased salary but still something substantial like 200-300k a year and must be a consultant for 1 year. This keeps them from competing against themselves yet they usually go to Hawaii and do nothing.

  27. Dell & Linux anyone? by Kevin+Burtch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone know if the new guy is Linux-friendly?

    I know Dell claims to be, and pretended to try Linux on consumer systems and gave up claiming "they weren't selling"... but that was because of the systems they chose to list Linux as an option with.

    Just because we like an OS that _happens_ to be free (in both senses of the word), doesn't mean we're cheapskates!

    How many Linux users do you know who would go out and buy the bottom-of-the-line of anything?
    We go for the hotrods, bigger/better/faster/more.
    I don't care if that monster notebook weighs 8.5#, I'm not a wimp, I want the power and rediculously-high resolution screen!

    Actually - after reading an article on installing Linux on an I8600, I priced one - amazing how cheap you can get a 1920x1200 LCD notebook for these days.

    Too bad it requires the MS-tax.

    The 1st thing I'd do with it is shrink down the MS partition to as small as it goes (to keep it around to make the diag-drones happy) and install Linux on it. (just like I did with the notebook I'm typing this on, sadly only having 1400x1050 on the LCD).

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    1. Re:Dell & Linux anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone know if the new guy is Linux-friendly?

      Dell is a salesman and couldn't give a rat's ass about Linux vs Windows.

    2. Re:Dell & Linux anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      > Anyone know if the new guy is Linux-friendly?

      A better question is if Linux is ever going to be Dell-friendly. Because as of right now, Linux is positioned as an "enterprise" OS with a "support" revenue model. It's certainly significantly more complex and expensive for OEMs to support -- especially when compared to stuff like WinXP Home which is designed around the needs of Microsoft's OEM customers and tries as hard as possible to keep the enduser off the telephone.

      I think Dell's being quite smart about shipping bare systems instead of Linux.

      > We [Linux users] go for the hotrods, bigger/better/faster/more.

      Actually, the high-end workstation machines are some of the few that Dell actually does ship with Linux.

    3. Re:Dell & Linux anyone? by gnu-sucks · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How many Linux users do you know who would go out and buy the bottom-of-the-line of anything?

      Well, I run mostly BSD-based os's, but 90% of my computers are pre-1998. My email server, for example, is a 486.

      One of the fundamental cool things about most open-source operating systems is their ability to run on almost any hardware.

      I know thats not what you're going at right now, but I thought it was a good point :)

    4. Re:Dell & Linux anyone? by Kevin+Burtch · · Score: 1


      Agreed, I run it on some ancient hardware as well, but if I'm going to spend money on something - it's not going to be a dino. ;)

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    5. Re:Dell & Linux anyone? by Fraize · · Score: 1

      Rollins is, because it makes good business sense. See, the more Dell pushes Linux, the more M$ trips over themselves when it comes time to renegotiate licensing.

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    6. Re:Dell & Linux anyone? by Kevin+Burtch · · Score: 1


      Heh, yeah... that sure seems to be the business strategy of various governments around the world.

      Some are serious about moving to Linux, and some just decide to switch out-of-the-blue, only use it to squeeze a deal out of MS.

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    7. Re:Dell & Linux anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You should check into getting a latitude notebook if you want to not pay for the MS apps. you have to buy it under through there business acounts but it's worth it because you save a good chunk of money off an already cheap notebook and they will just drop freeDOS in the box instead.

    8. Re:Dell & Linux anyone? by Endive4Ever · · Score: 1

      I'd agree with you, but I'm not going to spend money on any new computer stuff in the forseeable future.

      My most recent project has been populating all the drive bays in the 4-way PentiumPro server I bought at auction last month for $15 at a University Auction. I'm dabbling in 4-way SMP with freenixes. My biggest 'spending' decision has been deciding if I should spring for PPro chips with 1M cache or not (they're fricking $19 these days on eBay. Remember what that chip USED to cost??)

      The fastest machine in this house is a Pentium III 800 and that machine is dedicated to video capture and editing.

      The days of ever-increasing need for hardware are over. Most people's computer needs, even if they play some (not the ones that seem to be designed around eating as much power as possible for ever-diminishing features) games. My wife is a Diablo II fanatic and she didn't even notice when I swapped out her Pentium III 450 box for an HP Vectra Pentium II 400 (the new machine has better video hardware built in, tho, which sorta slants things).

      I'd like to upgrade my laptop to a Pentium based system, but hell, I just got my first active-matrix color laptop (Toshiba 486) with a built in CD drive in December.

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  28. Dude, I'm Cashing In by Goo.cc · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    " but Michael Dell hasn't left completely. He's still planning on sticking around as chairman of the board."

    In other words, he's going to keep getting a paycheck but will no longer work for it. To pay for this, Dell will probably have to announce more layoffs or the shifting of jobs overseas but that's okay, so long as somebody's stock options go up.

    1. Re:Dude, I'm Cashing In by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In other words, he's going to keep getting a paycheck but will no longer work for it.

      Shareholders elect the chairman. They do not elect the president or CEO. If Dell remains as chairman, he must be working to increase shareholder gains or else they would fill the role with someone who would. (At the next election opportunity, that is, but we'll see...)

      Michael Dell does not own enough shares alone to ensure that he gets or remains chairman; it's the shareholders who decide that.

    2. Re:Dude, I'm Cashing In by Zed2K · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well the company is named after him afterall. Of course he should still receive a paycheck.

    3. Re:Dude, I'm Cashing In by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, I had the same opinion until I downloaded [CowboyNealAdventures]PaterDoesDonkey(DivX).avi

      My life will never be the same again.

    4. Re:Dude, I'm Cashing In by Dead_Smiley · · Score: 1

      Hey, you would do the same thing. If I didn't have to work, I wouldn't. There are too many other things I would rather do.

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  29. Re:Quit while you're ahead by U.I.D+754625 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What are you talking about? Really? You're not making any sense. He hasn't quit, he's just moved to the job title that he likes to do the work that he likes. Dell makes laptops and PDAs already, so wow, some foresight you have there. And shifting to a Linux-only market? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha...yeah.

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  30. Outsourced? by MooseByte · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I first read the headline I thought Dell had finally outsourced their CEO position.

    (No doubt to be closer to the core of the company.)

    Support top-down outsourcing!

    1. Re:Outsourced? by isaacwith2as · · Score: 1

      I saw this earlier in the day. It's almost propehtic

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    2. Re:Outsourced? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see you have been pimping your site, eh?

  31. Better Linux Support??? by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can only hope that Mr. Rollins has the balls to step up and start supporting Linux. Dell has always been so wishy-washy about it... especially since they are known to get the largest discounts from M$. Perhaps a new CEO will mean new life for a new millenium and we'll actually get better Linux support across more of their product line.

    BTW: anyone notice that Dell's latest snail mail ad catalog was offering RedHat? So was Gateway's.

    The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers

    1. Re:Better Linux Support??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dell is wishy-washy with regards to supporting Linux, because it is very difficult. What is Linux? It is over 200+ varieties of the Linux the kernel, all completely binary incompatible, and most barely even source compatible (hence hacks like autconf). Say I support Redhat and Mandrake. Do you think I will get the support of the community? No, all you will hear is whining that Gentoo and Debian are not supported. NVidia supports drivers for Linux. They spend an enourmous amount of money maintaining these drivers, ensuring compatibility (developing a cross-distribution installer), and all you hear from the Linux community is whining that the source for the drivers is not available. If it was, then the complaint would be that it was not GPL. Do you see the pattern? Many companies do support Linux, despite the fact that it is a difficult moving target (driver binary compatibility? hah), and all they get is more demands from the Linux community. The community is ungrateful, and this is why large companies like Dell don't waste their time trying to appease a bunch of whiners.

    2. Re:Better Linux Support??? by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And its also why companies like mine choose white box solutions for the most part. However, its worth pointing out that it isn't just about the open source community. Its about choice. If I buy a server that runs Windows today, I want to know that it will run Linux if I choose to migrate a year later. I don't want to have to replace it simply because of a lack of driver support. When companies like Dell, IBM, etc start supporting Linux the result is hardware that is mutlti-OS. In Linux happy notebooks, for example, the OEMs don't choose to include WinModems. In the case of Centrino, they sell you a Centrino system, then replace the Centrino wifi with a Linux supported one. The result is that you no longer have to fear that your platform will only support a single (M$) operating system. And as a result, the customer gets more choice. Yes, we want source code. And yes, we want GPL compliance. But ask any Linux on Centrino user right now if they'd rather have a binary-only wifi driver or to use the NDISwrapper or other hacks and they'll say they want the binary driver.

      At least to me, open source is about choice. Its about choosing my OS. This is why I avoid Sun. At least with Wintel, I can run Linux, Netware, or Windows. But to run Solaris, I have to pay for SPARC or use the slower x86 version that they don't support as well and that one year they give away for free and the next year they say its being discontinued. I use open source because I can choose the best tool for the job. I just migrated a customer from an IMAP/SquirrelMail solution to MS Exchange. Why? Because all their users were Outlook power users and Exchange was the best tool for the job. But at least I know the server I spec'd will also run Linux so if they get tired of patches, viruses, etc., I can migrate them back... perhaps to Suse's OpenExchange server. Companies like Dell and IBM supporting Linux is like software coders compiling for different platforms. I user OpenOffice and Mozilla on all my Windows and Linux systems. Why? Because they're virtually identical on all platforms. I can switch OSs, but keep my profiles and files in sync.

      I won't argue that the open source community bitches a lot. I think you have a valid point i this regard. But the reality is that if you took M$'s "we proudly use and recommend Windows" discounts out of the equation, companies like Dell (companies that are focused on the almightly dollar) would be more likely to support Linux. Heck, Dell would be better off just saying "we've tested our h/w offering for xxx line on RedHat x.x, Suse x.x, Debian x.x, etc. We don't provide technical support for Linux distributions, but our h/w will play well with Linux". The reality is that most of us that would look for a Linux happy system from Dell already know how to install it and use it. And for those that don't, there's Wal-Mart $200 PC's with Lindows.

    3. Re:Better Linux Support??? by Endive4Ever · · Score: 1

      In Linux happy notebooks, for example, the OEMs don't choose to include WinModems.

      Perhaps I've flipped over into being a broadband fascist, but I'd shy away from any machine built and sold as new today that even included a modem. Especially if it meant that it didn't have built-in ethernet.

      Then again, I switched to broadband from an external US Robotics V.everything. I guess if I had a portable machine with a Winmodem built in, I'd dig in to find out if there were pins or traces I could cut to kill the fugger and get a little more battery life somehow. And I'd never, EVER buy a machine that I couldn't slap in a PCMCIA modem/ethernet.

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    4. Re:Better Linux Support??? by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 1

      Its nice to have a modem as a backup. I have DSL at home, wireless internet through my cellular provider, and built-in wifi. But on occasion, dial-up is my only choice. Thankfully, SBC DSL also let's you use dial-up for free (so you can check email when you're not at home on your DSL).

      The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers

  32. A new career by bmiller949 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Why doesn't Michael Dell become a school teacher like Woz and actually make a difference in someone's life. He doen't need money but he could do something personally enriching.

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    1. Re:A new career by smkndrkn · · Score: 1

      Maybe he doesn't want to....

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    2. Re:A new career by Zonnald · · Score: 1

      Doesn't the statement....

      "Dell has opened sales offices worldwide and has approximately 40,000 employees around the globe."...Texas Monthly Talk.

      suggest that he may have actually made a difference to maybe a few people?

    3. Re:A new career by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      He'd much rather sell Dell to the schools than go teach there. A story as told by my SO (affiliated with secondary education in Austin):
      Many school boards in Williamson/Travis/Hays (and a bunch of other surrounding counties) were "convinced" to switch to Dell (from Apple). Being a top-down decision, needless to say many of the teachers were pissed (the Apple users did not find Win/Dell as easy to use/maintain etc.).They were happy with their old Macs which did what they wanted, but the districts went ahead and spent a large sums of money "upgrading" to Dell, leaving other budget categories underfunded for a couple of years. What really got their goat was that the next year, property taxes went up to cover for an anticipated shortfall in the school budgets. This was before the "Robinhood plan" really tried to level the funding feild. (BTW, RoundRock has one of the richest schooldisrticts in Texas.)

      Of course, Dell stockholders did quite well.

  33. Re:Hmm by BlueCup · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I'll miss you =(

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  34. Rags To Riches Story. by pandrijeczko · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only 15 years ago, Dell's new CEO was up on stage fronting his band, Dexy's Midnight Runners, dressed in faded denim dungarees and singing "Come On Eileen" and now look at him... chairman of a global computer corporation... amazing.

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    1. Re:Rags To Riches Story. by Zonnald · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Surely you mean

      Henry Rollins

      http://www.bandhunt.com/artist_site/band.php/ro0 18 /

      not Kevin Rowlings

    2. Re:Rags To Riches Story. by Zonnald · · Score: 1
  35. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a room!

  36. Henry Rollins named new Dell CEO by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Misery, depression, elation all mine. Refine confinement all my design." said Henry Rollins to puzzled reporters at a press conference. "I reach deep inside myself. I rip out a handful of bleeding crackling wires. I squeeze the juice out. I burn them out. I want to see where the truth lies."

    Rollins then proceeded to scream primally and body slam the dainty woman from CNN. DELL stock actually managed to reach negative numbers in early trading but closed out at a price of 2.3x10^-30 per share.

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    1. Re:Henry Rollins named new Dell CEO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      christ enough with the henry rollins jokes. it's not that funny

    2. Re:Henry Rollins named new Dell CEO by psyconaut · · Score: 1

      LMAO! I was about to do a similar post ;-)

  37. Well, duh! (was Re:Dell & Linux anyone?) by CaptKilljoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd think that the answer is obvious: Rollins will be Linux-friendly if he thinks it will make Dell more money and he won't if he doesn't.

  38. Actually .... by Hungus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It was more like Dude you getting voted out. The Article doesn't mention it, but radio mentioned that he did not get re- elected to his position as CEO and so they decided to split the position. I can't find mention of it online yet however so no link.

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    1. Re:Actually .... by flosofl · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Are you sure you're not confusing "Dell" with "Disney"?

      Because that's what happened to Eisner at Disney. Except he got a no-confidence from the shareholders (40+% abstained). He was still elected by default because no one ran against him. The Disney board decided to split the positions with seperate people as Chairman and CEO. Eisner is still the CEO (because he has that position contractually until 2006) and Mitchell is now the Chairman.

      Or is it because they both start with the letter "D"? I'm sure that's what confused you... :)

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    2. Re:Actually .... by Hungus · · Score: 1

      You may well be correct, I do see to remember that they were talking about both companies at the time and that the same thing had happened at both companies or at least similar things. Of course I was driving at the time and its not like I was taking notes :)

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  39. And his replacement is... by Hanji · · Score: 2, Funny
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  40. Not a big deal, really by real+gumby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the reforms suggested (i.e. not enforced by any code or law) by the SEC as a response to the enron/worldcom pseudo-scandal is that the job of CEO and chairman be split. Note that Disney just did this in the hopes of deflecting some dirt.

    In the case of Dell: if your company is doing well but you want to split this job to make the Street happy, well, would you take the job that involves more work or the one that involves less? So the CEO job becomes more like a COO...and guess what? Rollins is the COO right now!

    Like other posters I doubt this implies much change for Dell the company or Dell the man.

    1. Re:Not a big deal, really by Cosmo+the+Cat · · Score: 1

      Taking a look at insider stock sales at Dell, the company looks very much like Enron. Everybody's dumping their shares and Michael is the biggest Dell share dumper of all. It's as though he can't get rid of it fast enough and that's always a bad sign.

  41. snafu by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 3, Funny

    When I first glanced at this... I coulda sworn it said "Cowboy Neil Steps Down as CEO of Bell Labs".

    The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers

    1. Re:snafu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somehow I was wishing it was Darl McBride, actually, when I read that.

      But I should have known better... Just because there's a leaked memo which makes them look really bad and the analysts who once liked them (Didio) seem to think they're pulling some kind of 'suicide gambit' ... that's no reason for a CEO to step down!

    2. Re:snafu by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 1

      Darl would be stupid to step down now. SCO is still cash flow positive thanks to M$. Then again, Enron was cash flow positive until that one fateful day when it all came crashing down...

      I for one hope that counter-suits after the fact can be directed at Darl himself, and not just SCO. Considering he'll never get a job again, at least a few class action suits, plus a few from AutoZone, Daimler Chrysler, and IBM for libel could dip into Darl's retirement monies.

      The problem with sueing companies with lots of money is that can afford to counter-sue.

      The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers

  42. In other riveting /. news... by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 1, Funny

    Gates scratched his backside, Linus got a haircut and Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead. Film at 11.

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    1. Re:In other riveting /. news... by thebatlab · · Score: 1

      Whoa, who crammed a 40' stick 50' up your ass? The CEO of one of, maybe the, biggest PC distributors steps down as CEO and you don't think it's important? Maybe you like all the SCO stories or the stories from a post by Linus on some mailing list but I think some other stuff thrown in between those "riveting" stories is nice.

    2. Re:In other riveting /. news... by Snork+Asaurus · · Score: 0

      Y'all have a nice day, too.

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  43. So... by jack_csk · · Score: 0

    Are they going to rename the company
    Rollins?

  44. the GIANT HEAD just got smaller... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    the GIANT HEAD of Dell, just got a little smaller.

    Actually this is just a investors game. In the wake of some of the corporate scandals, large investors are pushing for the appearance of "better corporate governance". They would prefer that the Chairman of the Board is not also the CEO. The Board is supposed to provide oversight over the people running the day to day operations.

    See what just happened at Disney with Eisner.

    Gates and Balmer played this game a while back. Let Uncle Fester run the company day to day and be the henchman, and let Billy play research boy and still be Chairman of the Board. Then Billy can run around playing politics, giving PowerPoint presentations, and pretending to be a philanthropist by giving away some of the billions he made running an illegal monopoly in the form of "free Microsoft products for the poor and needy".

    But really it means nothing. It's just a sham. Do you really think the GIANT HEAD is going anywhere? He is still in control at Dell.

    1. Re:the GIANT HEAD just got smaller... by Mistah+Blue · · Score: 1

      ROTFLMAO... Uncle Fester... I love it!!! I'd mod you funny if I had some mod points. GIANT HEAD is pretty good too.

    2. Re:the GIANT HEAD just got smaller... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > pretending to be a philanthropist by giving away some of the billions he made

      Pretending or not, charities still got that money either way. Yes, the money may have been made immorally, but people still got helped with it.

  45. Not trying to troll but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does a licensing sale rep at Dell do?

    I thought they just sold hardware? Not software or other services.

  46. ... ammusing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Just because we like an OS that _happens_ to be free (in both senses of the word), doesn't mean we're cheapskates!"

    (snip)

    "Too bad it requires the MS-tax."
    ... right. :)

    1. Re:... ammusing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not wanting to pay for something you don't use is being a cheapskate?

      IHBT, etc, etc

  47. Re:Hmm by Dasein · · Score: 1

    I won't

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  48. So Long, And Thanks For All The Toilet Paper by rufo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't that all those catalogs are good for?

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  49. CEO of what? by DavidBartlett · · Score: 1

    Oh, I get it.

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  50. Sadly, it doesn't work this way... by bersl2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    He's still planning on sticking around as chairman of the board.

    You have been elected Chairman of the Board (again).
    Pay each player $50.

  51. Asked for a reason... by Lars+T. · · Score: 3, Funny

    Micheal Dell answered: " I just once wanted to do something where Steve Jobs had to follow my footsteps."

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    1. Re:Asked for a reason... by WildBeast · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Agreed :)

  52. I always thought... by sserendipity · · Score: 1

    That Michael Dell was the name of that stupid kid in the advert.

  53. Dell's job was actually outsourced... by whyde · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...to India!

    It's true! I read it on BBspot earlier today!

  54. Um, wrong... by gregwbrooks · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Dell is utterly visionary and their R&D people are first-rate -- just not at developing products.

    The Dell vision has been and continues to be to enter markets just before they reach commoditization and to rapidly scale up market share by undercutting on price.

    Think they don't have R&D people? Think again -- they've got hundreds. But those hundreds are busy looking for the next market Dell can enter and dominate (think of how they entered the server market and, more recently, the PDA market).

    Just because someone spends their R&D dollars on econometric models and market research rather than trying to invent truly new products doesn't mean they're not innovating. Dell taught an entire generation of successful companies how to analyze, parse, enter and dominate markets.

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    1. Re:Um, wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Dell vision has been and continues to be to enter markets just before they reach commoditization and to rapidly scale up market share by undercutting on price.

      That's a really cool way to say Dell rips off other companies' technologies before it's too late.

    2. Re:Um, wrong... by nettdata · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's not R&D, in my opinion, that's marketing.

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    3. Re:Um, wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's really too bad you posted anonymously -- I -so- wanted to add you to my foes list for such an UNinsightful remark...

    4. Re:Um, wrong... by drfishy · · Score: 1

      There's a joke in there somewhere... ;)

  55. Sheesh, I remember when Michael Dell was... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...selling XT clones out of the trunk of his car on Guadalupe, just across from Dobie Mall.

  56. What about Old Blue Eyes? by jefdiesel · · Score: 1

    Michael Dell hasn't left completely. He's still planning on sticking around as chairman of the board

    I thought Sinatra was the The Chairman of the Board.. Jeez just cause the guys dead doesn't mean you can let a dullard like Dell into the Rat Pack..

    I'm sure Dell can't sing, drink, carouse, or even wisecrack his way anywhere into Sinatra's league.
    And I'm doubly sure, Frankie Blue never wore flat front dockers with the balloon seat

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  57. Allow me to say that... by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 0, Troll

    Mr. Rollins has my full support, and I wish him well in his new career. I thought he was really good in Johnny Mnemonic, much better than Keanu Reeves (the current CEO of Hewlett Packard).

  58. AMD procs.. by gricholson75 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Can we please get Dell servers with AMD64 procs now? Please?

    1. Re:AMD procs.. by tomstdenis · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why? They just spent the last decade convincing their customers they need "the awesome power of the Intel [chipname] processor".

      I mean just because they're more expensive, not really faster and generally are just name doesn't mean you should stick only with one company.

      Shit Darwin's just a "theorist" anyways.

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    2. Re:AMD procs.. by Zonnald · · Score: 1

      tomstdenis wrote "I mean just because they're more expensive, not really faster and generally are just name doesn't mean you should stick only with one company."

      You could be talking about GMH or Ford.

    3. Re:AMD procs.. by tomstdenis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Um? Why would a Ford dealer sell a competitors car?
      Last I checked DELL makes PCs/laptops/etc. They don't actually make the pieces.

      However, since they only sell Intel procesesors with their computers they are doomed to follow Intel [up and down]. Say the next P4 [say the P5? oh shit they already made that... um P4-II?] is a bomb. What does DELL do then?

      Really it makes good business sense to offer at least one alternative [say AMD and ideally they should offer Crusoe for laptops]. That way if one supplier bombs they're not shit out of product.

      The correct analogy would be similar to Hertz only renting Ford cars or something.

      Tom

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  59. Dells new commercial by Syncdata · · Score: 1

    Family frustrated with their old computer looks mournfully at a monitor giving off a BSOD, when in comes henry rollins with a 21 inch monitor under one arm, and a tower under the other. Snap Snap, fixes em up, and the family gets back to surfing for prawn.
    Henry Rollins walks towards the camera as the room lighting slowly turns red:
    With Dell's excellent customer support, as well as on-site delivery and setup, I think you'll find that there really is no other option. Remember, here at Dell, We'll burn your heart out, then eat your soul."

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  60. Hmm... by Jorkapp · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe now that he's got more spare time, he'll post on /. more often!

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    1. Re:Hmm... by robotoverflow · · Score: 1

      Why would anyone want to waste their time posting on slashdot?

      Wait...

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  61. "Dr. Darwin to the white courtesy phone... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ... Paging Dr. Darwin."

  62. Dell sucks... by SteveXE · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Im sure this is happening because Dell's once bright image is fading into darkness and they are quickly becoming the next Packard Bell, selling junk computers and worse support for them.

    1. Re:Dell sucks... by badman99 · · Score: 0

      For some reason I always have a sore ass after using a Dell.....Guess I must be getting shafted

    2. Re:Dell sucks... by burns210 · · Score: 1

      and yet they keep selling more and more of them. No, Dell's outlook looks fine. Heck, few people 'like' Microsoft, but Windows is still widely bought(for various reasons).

    3. Re:Dell sucks... by ThisIsFred · · Score: 2

      Whoa, come on. Dell isn't quite that bad yet. At least their machines are more reliable than Gateway's. But still, they're no IBM.

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    4. Re:Dell sucks... by SteveXE · · Score: 1

      I didnt mean they were losing money, i meant their product has gone from half decent to utter junk and people are starting to see that.

  63. Damn by kurosawdust · · Score: 1

    This is an interesting story and all, but what would make it really cool is if the guy who was to become the new CEO had the same last name as a celebrity of some sort.* *(Yes, Kevin Rollins has the same last name as Henry Rollins. It's a fucking laugh riot, like when a clown gets hacked to pieces with a butterknife - now please stop posting about it.)

  64. Doesn't sound right by scythian_monk · · Score: 1

    Ctrl-Alt-Rollins .... I don't think so.

  65. Compaq's history of contributing technology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please educate me. What has Compaq contributed to technology? Didn't they buy out the first company to create micro-computers?

    1. Re:Compaq's history of contributing technology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, they invented EISA. I can't think of anything they've done since then.

    2. Re:Compaq's history of contributing technology? by aka1nas · · Score: 1

      They reverse-engineered the BIOS of the original PC and established the close market.

    3. Re:Compaq's history of contributing technology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The iPAQ?

    4. Re:Compaq's history of contributing technology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bzzt!

      Wrong. That was Compaq (and maybe Phoenix, too).

      Michael Dell started selling whiteboxen out of his (college, university?) dorm more towards the mid-late '80s, after the clone industry appeared, started diverging from IBM's reference design and had established whole channels for various parts.

      Really.

    5. Re:Compaq's history of contributing technology? by LionMage · · Score: 1

      It really pays to read carefully before posting on Slashdot.

      The thread went like this:

      Anonymous Coward number 1 writes: "Please educate me. What has Compaq contributed to technology?"

      Someone replies, "They reverse-engineered the BIOS of the original PC and established the close [sic] market." I'm assuming this person was trying to write "clones."

      Anonymous Coward number 2 writes: "Wrong. That was Compaq (and maybe Phoenix, too)."

      Idiot. If you followed the thread, your post would have been completely unnecessary.

  66. Ted Waitt by TheViewFromTheGround · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ted Waitt did the same thing at Gateway three or four years ago, to pursue his interests in sexual violence prevention and equitable access to technology. Oddly enough I work on both of those, and have had the chance to meet him several times. Waitt's intelligence and money have helped in these areas, and I can only hope that Michael Dell might think about doing something similar.

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    1. Re:Ted Waitt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, I worked on a program to give Internet access to Pedophiles and Rapists in prison.

      --M. Dell.

    2. Re:Ted Waitt by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > I worked on a program to give Internet access to Pedophiles and Rapists in prison.

      And I never got to thank you. It made my time so much easier.

    3. Re:Ted Waitt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I was in high school, before Gateway moved HQ to California, I had an opportunity to do some work for Gateway, through an internship thing set up by his wife. Never met him, but I can say that she's less than generous: they expected highschoolers to work 20hrs/wk minimum for free during the school year. Needless to say I turned it down. Hope someone's realligned their reality field since then.

  67. Exact quote? by spideyct · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's sound more like a paraphrase, unless he was just speaking off the cuff. Dell's direct model has always been based on "give the customer what they want when they ask for it", as opposed to "spend a lot of money to build something new and then spend a lot of money trying to convince the customer they need it (at a premium price)", which is the basis of the companies which you, for some reason, prefer to do business with.
    Most companies would rather pay the best price for equipment that fulfills their needs. Hence, the popularity of Dell. Apparently your company would rather pay a high-magin markup for the latest and greatest toy, which has yet to be proven to fulfill a need.

  68. Why would you tell everyone? by Eric_Cartman_South_P · · Score: 2, Funny
    "...snorting cocaine off the backs of hookers..."

    What the hell does my weekend hobby have to do with this article on Slashdot?

  69. Just imagine... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rollins, will come here for a min, please?

    Sure, boss, what's up?

    Dude, you're getting a Dell!

  70. Not why they lost our biz... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where I work we just bought a ton of HP server boxes, even though we normally use Dell. The reason? I believe the HP boxes were something like $6 a box less...

    Never mind that the HP servers can't all seem to go in the same rack without overheating.

  71. Wow, it was supposed to be funny... by rufo · · Score: 1

    Geez, didn't realize so many people *liked* the catalogs... ;)

    It was supposed to be funny. Laugh. ;-)

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  72. Bah, you kids... by Riktov · · Score: 1

    It's SONNY, man, SONNY.

  73. It's obvious by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mr. Dell is cashing out because he knows the PC market is TOAST!. PCs are such a commodity now days that Dell doesn't have an advantage anymore. Just look at the sub $200 PCs at Walmart! And with China and Korea quickly sucking up market share, it won't be long before you can nab a highend PC for $200.

    I'm not saying this is bad. It's just that Mr. Dell is smart and KNOWS the market is about to crumble. In fact, Dell doesn't make anything anymore, they just rebrand the laptops made by Samsung. Soon, Samsung will cut out the middle man and sell the laptops themselves.

    Also, you can forget about fixing and repairing PCs as job security. That goldmine has ran out. Why pay someone $100 just to patch up an older PC when you can get a new one for double that amount (and comes with warranty)?

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    1. Re:It's obvious by operagost · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Also, you can forget about fixing and repairing PCs as job security. That goldmine has ran out. Why pay someone $100 just to patch up an older PC when you can get a new one for double that amount (and comes with warranty)?
      If it has your important data on it? Of course, this means that you'll need to learn real troubleshooting and data recovery techniques, and not just be a "reboot and reformat" monkey.
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    2. Re:It's obvious by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      I predect that the next "big thing" in IT will be retro. Because of the major headaches with administrating Wintel boxes, it would be much easer to have user apps run on a central clustered-mainframe system. It would alow for easier application installation and central system administration. Also, spare CPU cycles are cheap now. So unless your running something scientific (read: need lots of CPU), your average employee doesn't need their own dedicated workstation. But rather, a simple dumb terminal with a nice GUI enviroment.

      My point is this: With a saturation in the PC market, companies outsourcing, and consolidating workforce personel...why would even THINK about finding the PC market to be lucrative anytime soon?

      I suppose the gaming market will still be strong. It looks Alienware and Falconwest have the right idea so far. It's a limited market, but worthy enough non the less.

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    3. Re:It's obvious by Groganz · · Score: 1

      Or learn some sensible backup options.

    4. Re:It's obvious by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 1

      It doesn't have to be this way for Dell. They used to make premium machines with top notch support. They cost a little more than Gateway or the end aisle special at Best Buy, but people would pay it for a better machine that was customized to their needs. But now, there is really no reason to buy a Dell over any other machine. Sure, their prices are lower, but so is the quality. With service and customizability declining as well, Dell has completely lost their competitive advantage and are just living off their name. Having become just another dime a dozen consumer electronics company, it won't take much for other competitors to eat their lunch. Dell will still have a very lucrative server market, which has not become as commoditized as the desktops and laptops, but I think this company is in for a rough future if they don't change soon.

    5. Re:It's obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "PCs are such a commodity now days that Dell doesn't have an advantage anymore. Just look at the sub $200 PCs at Walmart!"

      Right. I know my company buys all it's PCs from Walmart, because of their reliability and kick-ass technical support.

    6. Re:It's obvious by retinaburn · · Score: 1

      What are the odds your PC has any important data left and having windows crash on it every month or so...

    7. Re:It's obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ONE IN 30...
      that is as in once a month w/ win 9x
      one in 180 w/ windows xp (which statistically is a GOOD chance)

    8. Re:It's obvious by TheCrazyFinn · · Score: 1

      That started happening 5 years ago.

      It's called Windows Terminal Services.

      Works pretty well for many things.

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  74. He's a rich man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess he's done with hoarding.

  75. The REAL Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Before you geeks get too worked up over congratulating yourselves over someone else's success as if it validates YOUR existence, lets look at a few of the facts:

    Michael Dell is a marketer, NOT a geek. He is not an engineer. Who knows what his degree is in - multiple biographies yielded not a clue, just "he attended the University of Texas . . . " The lack of specifics is an indicator it was NOT something technical. So go easy before identifying with him. Even the evil genius anti-Christ Gates once was able to write tight code.

    Dell has been known from it's inception for it's marketing and business model, NOT it's innovation or quality. Back in the AT age, a time that those with /. IDs over 100 probably can't remember (ask your parents), Dell sold systems shabbier than the cheapest eMachines crap. I even sold them (slumming during the '89-91 recession) at Staples. The power supplies were these little wimpy 65 W blobs, they rattled, and the return rate for hardware failure alone was 20%.

    Not to beat too much on the quality issue (OK, lets!), remember that Dell actually pulled out of the laptop business for several years in the early-mid '90's due to quality problems. To decide that your product is SO BAD that you can't upgrade on the fly but actually have to give up (on a major market segment) DOES speak to their *eventual* integrity, but not their quality. What were they even doing selling those bricks in the first place?

    Dell has been a builder and staunch defender of the WinTel hegemony. When M$ was learning how to behave like the (tried and convicted) monopolists they are, Mike was right by their side. Even today, just try calling Dell and buying their hardware without an M$ OS.

    Dell has been a leader in offshore outsourcing. Nuff said! Well, maybe not! The next time you complain about the job market, think of your old pal Mike! He's a major cause for it!

    Jealous? No. I've carved my niche and am doing OK and am quite happy in it. I have NO desire to enter the commodity hardware market. But my admiration (and dollars) go to the true innovators and those with the integrity and courage to run their businesses with respect for their customers and their employees.

    1. Re:The REAL Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dell has been known from it's inception for it's marketing and business model, NOT it's innovation or quality.

      That is patently absurd. The history of the PC industry is littered with the corpses of vendors, from CompuAdd to (yes) Compaq, who failed to compete with Dell in one way or another. Without a serious commitment to quality and support, all the marketing in the world would never have allowed Dell to compete with the big boys. They would just be one of any number of cut-rate mail-order vendors struggling to make a buck or two and a name for themselves.

      Back in the AT age, a time that those with /. IDs over 100 probably can't remember (ask your parents), Dell sold systems shabbier than the cheapest eMachines crap. I even sold them (slumming during the '89-91 recession) at Staples.

      I worked at Dell as an engineer during that precise time period. You were most certainly not selling Dell computers at Staples or any other retail store at that time.

      (I think you're confusing Dell with Packard-Bell, which does indeed deserve all of the vitriol you're shovelling, and quite a bit more to boot.)

      The power supplies were these little wimpy 65 W blobs, they rattled, and the return rate for hardware failure alone was 20%.

      Again, I don't know what OEM you're talking about here, but it absolutely was not Dell.

      Dell's current consumer-level offerings are so much hyper-commoditized junk, I'll grant you that, but things were very different back in the day.

    2. Re:The REAL Dell by John+Miles · · Score: 1

      Hmm. If I remember correctly, Dell did try to push a couple of their early laptop/notebook models through retail partnerships. I don't know if Staples was one of those partners, though.

      20% failure rates don't sound likely, even so, unless they were selling rebranded merchandise from generic Asian OEMs that early in the game. I don't remember when that started, but I was there in the early 90s as well, and the product line was pretty solid for the most part. There were a few weak performers but they were mostly weak in the benchmarking area (316sx, anyone?) rather than the quality department.

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    3. Re:The REAL Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OH yes, it was definitely Dell that Staples pushed. Read John Miles comment for confirmation that Dell DID market through retail.

      You might have been an engineer at Dell, but that's what happens when you arent in the front lines - you're head get's so far up your ass you cant see for shit.

  76. Never buying a Dell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I knew a guy who was fired from Dell after they trumped up an accusation at him for surfing for porn at work. They did that to get around paying unemployement or severance or anything. A lot of people got let go for similar false reasons at a time when a lot of people were let go.

    So whenever I hear "Dude, you're getting a Dell" I mentally add "...so bend over and take it"

  77. It's a shame... by brsmith4 · · Score: 1

    Michael Dell is probably the least shady character on Dell's board of directors.

    Have a look at their BOD page. You will see that a lot of the people on the board are affiliated with large banks (chase/manhattan), oil companies, defense contractors, government agencies, etc. However, this is typical of many large US companies.

    M. Dell however, was a true business man. Started Dell from the ground up and had no other motives.

  78. In other news... by Espectr0 · · Score: 1

    Disney kicked Eisner as chairman, but /. rejected my article

    1. Re:In other news... by luckyguesser · · Score: 1

      I have 2 sentence fragments for you:
      News for nerds
      Stuff that matters

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  79. Steps Down as CEO, Steps up to Parties, Hookers by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 1
    Steps Down as CEO, steps up to parties, hookers.

    [in best Dave Chappel voice]

    "I'm Michael Dell, Bitch!"

    "What did the five fingers say to the face?"

    "SLAP!"

  80. w00t! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    w00t! Go Kevin, BYU Alumni! We are taking over the world! HAHAHAHAHA!

  81. Margin pressure, the US dollar and Asian OEM's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mr. Dell is getting out before his company hits the mat again and again from the falling dollar. Sure he is making money but the end is near. Most Asian OEM's are under immense margin pressures right now thanks to China. Dell, a major tapper of cheap Asia since the early 1990's, is facing the troubles with Just-in-time orders from Asia. The virtues of the high dollar - cheap Asia - buy in volume are now nearing the end. Purchasing managers and Dell marketing is finding it harder to ramp to profit as the dollar collapses since they must pay for stock (parts) that will be increasingly expensive tomorrow instead of cheaper. This is so unlike the early 1990's and MBA's who have studied Dell are going to get a fist to the face because of Asian economic nationalism. The China yuan peg is offsetting the pressure slightly today, but it will nevertheless increase trouble for major US importers. Dell is getting out because he is likely bored and wants to leave with his reputation intact. Some consultant probably told him the US economy is in for some serious pain and he doesn't want the US economic nationalists pointing fingers at CEOs like him in the wake of US economic collapse. What's the US debt level these days? 7 trillion?

  82. playing games by Sean+Clifford · · Score: 2, Interesting
    - Play games? No time. He's an executive.

    I guess you haven't met many executives. Golf games, flight sims, sports games. And odd one here and there who can go toe to toe with you in Halo or who'll take the plunge into Desert Combat. So who knows? Maybe Dell eagerly anticipates Half-Life 2 and Doom III as much as the rest of us.

    Now, for most of the folks in most offices, no they don't require a machine with much umph to word process, email, and whatever.

    1. Re:playing games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've met many executives who've played games. Minesweeper, Solitaire, you name it, they're hardcore gamers!

      Though they limit their play to lulls in their day. Like 9-5...

  83. It works in Opera. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes, I am better than you.

  84. Gateway, HP, IBM are celebrating by superpulpsicle · · Score: 1

    I can see these companies send their stock price up a few notch for a few days.

    If their managment were smart they'd take this opportunity to really start advertising and whipping their operation into dell mode.

  85. Re:Better Linux Support??? Get the facts! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We have purchased over 60 DELL PowerEdge servers running RHAS. They have been extremely reliable and DELL has no problem selling Linux on them. As far as desktops go, a majority of Linux users either build their box(es) themselves or buy it from a Linux-only distributor. Get the facts before you bash on DELL, because they kick many other companies asses (such as Gateway) as far as Linux support.

  86. Re:Exact quote? Probably IS an exact quote... by hlygrail · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This isn't much of a paraphrase. I've heard similar things from the inside of Dell in regards to Compaq's well-known and well-developed R&D division (now part of HP, but still intact as an R&D division last time I checked, which was admittedly many months ago).

    Compaq's R&D may be bleeding edge, but to say that it's "yet to be proven to fulfill a need" is just plain ignorant. Just because a SMB (small- to medium-size business) doesn't need systems running RAID arrays that can survive multiple simultaneous drive failures [which Compaq pioneered], or systems employing "RAID memory" technology and can survive on vanilla Dell boxes, doesn't diminish Compaq's contribution in any way. Nor does it elevate Dell's position in the market.

    Dell's best market is the ability to cater to the masses at a reasonable cost. However, those of us who have been working in and supporting the Intel server market (and those who've been around longer that have worked with mid-range systems) for more than a decade more clearly recognize the benefits of choosing a Compaq-level service/support/research organization BECAUSE of its R&D division. High-class R&D almost always breeds high-class products, and certainly breeds an environment of TESTING before release. I can name off only one or two faux pas from the Compaq server line (one with a RAID array firmware conflict, the other with a mobo firmware problem) from those 10+ years; I can point out that many problems in only 3 months of my last job where I supported a room full of current Dell's.

    In my opinion , Dell does a great job repackaging the latest Intel processor in a vanilla, reference-level server-class [loose term in this usage] motherboard and shipping it out. What I DON'T see from Dell is the requisite testing of those systems together to provide a stable overall level of quality in those servers.

    Compaq servers may be slightly behind the bleeding curve because it takes time to properly test hardware and software. If you skip testing, or do a poor job of it, of course you can be first out the door with the latest and greatest. But it's not worth it to me.

    Real-world examples:

    Company 1 - major 3-letter acronym subsidiary. Could not buy XXX servers internally because mfg couldn't keep up, so we bought Compaqs. We had a high-availability, enterprise class, global infrastructure that almost NEVER failed in 5 years. We had a few Dells in lab and development environments that required a fair number of repairs over the same timeframe. (Yes, this is anecdotal, I know.) For what it's worth, we paid less externally for Compaq servers than we would have internally for XXX servers, which is how I was able to run it right through the XXX CFO's office. :)

    Company 2 - Anecdotal, and YMMV, but I've seen this repeated so many times... don't even get me started on the Dell workstations. If I ever have to call Dell Support and get another bonehead in India, I will go postal! Hands-down, the worst tech support I've ever dealt with was Dell's workstation/laptop folks in Bangalore (circa September 2003, and swore never again would I call!)...

  87. DAMNIT! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DAMNIT! I saw this story on my local news station about a week ago, and wanted to post it to slashdot. Though, after repeatedly having my ego badly bruised by the tender term, "REJECTED" I decided not to. (sigh)

  88. Cult of Personality by devinoni · · Score: 1
    Michael Dell is a smart man, to be stepping down from his CEO position while his company is doing well. The problem with young companies is that the sucessful ones often have a visionary, a leader. It's the first name you associate with the company. The problem with these companies is they are linked to that person. Look at Martha Stewart's company, it has had problem since her legal problems.

    No one ever said that Bill Gates was a stupid man. He is very smart, and he knows that he is not immortal. By stepping aside, like Michael Dell has done now, he's showing investors and customers that the company will live on even after they leave.

    The classic example is Oracle, where Larry Ellison is Oracle and Oracle is Larry Ellison. The problem with that is Larry likes extreme sports, he places himself in high risk situation very often. Him dieing could put the company in a tail spin in the stock market. Customers could lose faith, and the company would be sallowed up by a larger firm. Larry's had lieutenants who could have taken over for him. However, his unwillingness to leave his position caused them to look for better jobs elsewhere. Instead, now he has people who will not challenge him, and people who he might not trust to run the company.

    I applaud Michael Dell for doing this, and also not naming his company Michael Dell Corp. :)

  89. Re:Exact quote? Probably IS an exact quote... by John+Miles · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just because a SMB (small- to medium-size business) doesn't need systems running RAID arrays that can survive multiple simultaneous drive failures [which Compaq pioneered]

    Actually, no, they didn't do all the RAID pioneering in the PC world. The DDA was an in-house-designed product that was pretty darned nifty for its time, and resulted in quite a few patents for the people who worked on it.

    Back in the early 90s, Dell was actually shaping up to be a formidable engineering company in its own right. We (I worked there at the time) designed and debugged our own motherboards and ASICs, and Dell was the first PC vendor to come out with an 80486 workstation, beating Compaq (who was famous for being first with the 80386) to the punch.

    People around here seem to be selling Dell short as an engineering outfit, and that's not entirely fair or accurate. After it became clear that the PC was a commodity, Dell's engineering efforts were redirected at manufacturing and support processes rather than the products themselves, and that's when they really started to kick butt. No one -- not HP, not Compaq, not IBM -- proved able to compete with Dell's process engineering talent.

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  90. Re:AMD procs.. Why? Who is AMD to Joe Blow by Mathiau · · Score: 1

    The problem is why go with AMD when your everday Joe only knows about "Intel inside" and that more MhZ /Ghz is what is best. your average Joe - who is DELL's largest consumer - beside possible server market - hear the name Intel and think it is a gerat PC - they heard the name AMD and think - wtf is that? Intel marketing far exceeds that of AMD and because of that even though the prescott is currently a flop -your average Joe wont care - all he cares about is he is getting the latest and greatest CPU that runs @ 3.4ghz!! so it MUST be the best an fastest - he has not idea about shorter pipilines and such so Intel is the way to go! AMD seriouslyt needs to improve their marketing to direct more towards your everday user.

  91. A new career in an Indian Call Centre by fastdecade · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why doesn't Michael Dell spend 14hrs a day working the phones in Bangalore, enriching the life of his customers who spent first-world money only to put up with third-rate service.

  92. Oh, that Kevin... by Derwen · · Score: 1
    and has named Kevin Rollins, the current president and chief operating officer of Dell, as his successor.
    Damned Emacspeak, I thought it said Kevin Rowland. :-/
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  93. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, in 20 years, there'll be 1 million Linux desktops. In other words, about 15% of the OS X market today. Ooooh, I'm quakin'.

  94. CalPERS pondering... by The+Lynxpro · · Score: 1

    While it is a pet peeve of the SEC in terms of splitting the responsibilities of the chairman and CEO positions following the Enron debacle, this has been something CalPERS has been pressuring many companies they hold interests in. This is one of the reasons why CalPERS withheld its support for Michael Eisner and right afterward, Disney announced it would be splitting the responsibilities. Dell probably saw the writing on the wall, even though there's not a lot to complain about if you are a Dell stockholder, as compared with Disney...

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  95. Whew! by cyclist1200 · · Score: 2, Funny

    For a second there I was starting to think this was true!

  96. Oh, cheer up by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1

    It's the unfortunate phenomena of the joke event horizon. Individually, the jokes are amusing. Collectively, they make you want to fly a plane into a building somewhere. Don't worry. String theory shall save us all.

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  97. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shut up Bill Gates.

  98. Re:Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's ok, I'll take care of you.