> it didn't use to be this way. Time was when running a big company involved actual decision making
I'm not going to go into robber barons, as I'm too lazy (and it's too close to 5:00) to think right now, but No, it wasn't. I wonder when it started changing? Maybe it has something to do with the stock market, maybe capitalism, maybe it's just The Way Things Are. Or maybe it arose at the time people realized you can get really rich by making things complicated. *sigh* I just wish I (or anyone, for that matter) knew how to fix it.
Because that's all they have to measure success. Or at least what they think measures it. CPAs make up numbers & give them to CEOs, who tell the stockholders. Then the stockholders see that $X profit on the company means $Y profit on my stocks... So if the company can make $5X profit, I can make $5Y on the stock! Others see this & invest into the company looking for similar returns... all based on the numbers given by some CPA who may or may not be correct.
> trying to paint a polite indian tryign to diagnose a problem
By lieing? That's not very polite. Of course, as I know from your other cowardly posts, you claim to be Indian (although I have not met one IRL as rude as yourself) and haven't got a realistic thought in your head.
> I wonder what this american would call a US tech support person who, typically is pretty ignorant, and also starts a conversation with 'Yo there'!
While the typical American Tech Support center worker is pretty ignorant, they are just as ignorant as the Indian ones I have met. They are both horrible, with neither sticking out in my mind as "worse."
As I pointed out the other time you made this lie, I have never heard anyone in a professional setting EVER say "yo" on the phone. So pull your head out of your ass you racist piece of shit.
> you will get it better if I say your white masters?
Oh and you're trying to claim Indians aren't arrogant... You might have made a better point if you had said you were an American, trying to prove how obnoxious "we" are.
> those idiots start the conversation with 'Yo'!! But that's master-speak for you I guess.
I have lived in the U.S. my whole life - never have I heard a single person start a conversation with "Yo," especially not on the phone.
So, in posting, you have proved exactly what you had set out to disprove.
Any statement started like this is immediately wrong. It is just as wrong for you (or anyone) to lie about Americans as it is for any one of us to lie about Hindis. Stop being a hypocrite.
> Now my windows box (and mom and dads) on the other hand, need a IT staff of 20 to keep running.
Then you don't know how to use windows, nor do 19 of those people. If you're going to be honest on one side, be honest on the other too. OSX may be better than Windows (dunno, never used it, I'm guessing it is) but don't make ridiculous comments like that.
> Wow! Goldfish(Carp) are one of the most hardy fish around
Unless you get them from a Carnival or Fair in the U.S. It was meant to be a joke, as Goldfish (yeah I know they are carp) are often prizes at fairs for yaweh-only-knows-why, but they have a tendency to die quickly for a number of reasons: 1) They are kept in huge quantities in small tanks, making fishie-diseases (& stress) spread quickly. 2) They are given to people in plastic bags filled with tapwater -- not the best conditions. Then carried & tossed around all day while at the fair (in the heat, usually) 3) The people who get them don't know how to take care of a fish as a pet.
Please note, I'm not a Goldfish rights activist trying to spread awareness about the cruelty to little pet fishies everywhere. I don't care about them or their "unbearable conditions", just explaining my post.
> Something that is a barrier to reproduction -- which producing all males is -- is not going to spread.
No, no, it is NOT a barrier to reproduction. That would be to make them all infertile. This is a barrier to finding a mate, which is similar, but not the same. Think of it statistically:
Every male with this gene has exactly as much chance of reproducing as one without. If you put enough of them in the area, you can guarantee that some of them will pass on the gene.
I don't think that fish will mutate & grow this-gene-sensing organs within 100 years, so the chance of natural selection putting much of a dent in this seems silly to me.
This will spread, but I agree that it is nearly impossible to wipe out all carp with this method, but it can at least lower their numbers enough to come up with a more manageable (and permanent) solution.
> Until you organize you will remaim shmucks while the doctors get legislation passed
Umm, lawyers are the ones who get laws passed: that's what they do. And by "you," you do not mean me, even if you think you do. I am organized. But you just made assumptions to try & belittle me, as most do to others here.
From what I have seen, unions are to protect the workers' rights against their employers. Associations are more general and lobby for bills, educate their members in recent technology, but I haven't heard of them doing any substantial legal representation for the lowest of their members (which is what unions were supposed to be about, although they are not).
> The geeks are shmucks
Eh, yes & no, depending on your meaning. Too smart to be fooled, too lazy to be active (but not too lazy to complain incessantly)...
> You keep calling them shit from your mothers basement
Actually, I said "shit" from the comfort of my job. Once. I didn't call anything "shit" and I certainly don't "keep calling them" anything. See, I made a statement that is not directly related to the conversation. You are supposed to think about it (not too long, hopefully) and come up with the reason I said it. I didn't call anything shit, I made ana analogy. I could have just as easily said "You can call a duck a quargle, but it's still a duck." You missed the point completely.
> You are begging the question, "What does the word 'create' mean?"
I beg for nothing. To create means to make something that did not previously exist. The Internet existed before Gore assigned to it huge gobs of money (which I am not complaining about).
> Did Beethoven "create" the Eroica Symphony? > The notes and instruments were already there. All he did was arrange them...
Oh man, the temptation to flame here is too much. Have you ever studied music for a single moment in your life? Evidently not, as Beethoven did not "create" any music. Have you ever heard of a "musical arrangement"? What about "composing"? You even used the right word (arrange)! That's what he did; he did not actually "create" anything.
Wow, talk about abuse of power by a fucking asshat moderator who either thinks he's funny or thinks he's in control. You are neither, you clueless fucking dork. I don't care about Karma, but at least mod it CORRECTLY. Geez, grow a single fucking brain cell and LEARN TO READ. Redundant means it has been said over & over, neither of which these were since they were on the FIRST THREAD. Damn, you are stupid.
Umm, that doesn't sound right... I'm not saying rabbits ARE used for food, just that people have a reason for wanting them, whereas carp are not considered quite so precious.
> If something is as publicly available as wild animal it is very easy for someone to transport it.
Okay, valid point... Except people (outside AU) like bunnies. Carp aren't cute & cuddly. Also, they are rarely used for food. Rabbits are also easier to transport -- they don't need quite as much water.
Please don't think I'm defending that whiner Gore, but he said "create." I can create a TCP/IP network, but I cannot invent a TCP/IP network, as it has already been done. They are different words. So it is not an accurate paraphrasing. I still think he was wrong, but not as intentionally wrong as you imply.
Good thing you don't have that pesky "conservation of mass" thing to deal with.
Wait, no, you PREPARED dinner last night -- using the materials you had/bought (food, spices, etc.), you arranged them in such a combination and order to produce an extremely tasty and satisfying meal. You did not create anything. You rearranged them to look different together than each does individually, but no new thing was created. It was all there before, it's all there now (ignoring chemical reactions in cooking/charring, etc. of course).
You are trying to redefine the word "create," when it is just not accurate. You are also adding words that Gore did not say. I may disagree with some of his politics, but I don't think for a second that he meant the exact words he said. I doubt he was trying to take credit for making the Internet' as he did not. He misspoke (or to be nicer, didn't choose his words well enough), that is all.
> And humanity will be forever free from this scourge!
Or until some fruitcake fucks a monkey and the next AIDS ends up in humans being easily communicable by breath. Nature has a lot more diseases than we know, and more appear all the time.
I understand that you're probably not a specialist in solar cells, but I was thinking about this and was too lazy to find a better place to post it.
If we were to put solar cells in the desert, would they have to be raised & angled so that sand doesn't collect on it? Or would that even be a problem? What about sand scratching up the surface of the collectors?
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> it didn't use to be this way. Time was when running a big company involved actual decision making
I'm not going to go into robber barons, as I'm too lazy (and it's too close to 5:00) to think right now, but No, it wasn't. I wonder when it started changing? Maybe it has something to do with the stock market, maybe capitalism, maybe it's just The Way Things Are. Or maybe it arose at the time people realized you can get really rich by making things complicated. *sigh* I just wish I (or anyone, for that matter) knew how to fix it.
> Nervous people with nuclear weapons make me nervous :(
People who are nervous about nervous people with... err, never mind.
> The capital market is obsessed with numbers.
Because that's all they have to measure success. Or at least what they think measures it. CPAs make up numbers & give them to CEOs, who tell the stockholders. Then the stockholders see that $X profit on the company means $Y profit on my stocks... So if the company can make $5X profit, I can make $5Y on the stock! Others see this & invest into the company looking for similar returns... all based on the numbers given by some CPA who may or may not be correct.
> I for one welcome our new American overlords
New?
> trying to paint a polite indian tryign to diagnose a problem
By lieing? That's not very polite. Of course, as I know from your other cowardly posts, you claim to be Indian (although I have not met one IRL as rude as yourself) and haven't got a realistic thought in your head.
> I wonder what this american would call a US tech support person who, typically is pretty ignorant, and also starts a conversation with 'Yo there'!
While the typical American Tech Support center worker is pretty ignorant, they are just as ignorant as the Indian ones I have met. They are both horrible, with neither sticking out in my mind as "worse."
As I pointed out the other time you made this lie, I have never heard anyone in a professional setting EVER say "yo" on the phone. So pull your head out of your ass you racist piece of shit.
> you will get it better if I say your white masters?
Oh and you're trying to claim Indians aren't arrogant... You might have made a better point if you had said you were an American, trying to prove how obnoxious "we" are.
> those idiots start the conversation with 'Yo'!! But that's master-speak for you I guess.
I have lived in the U.S. my whole life - never have I heard a single person start a conversation with "Yo," especially not on the phone.
So, in posting, you have proved exactly what you had set out to disprove.
> you americans
Any statement started like this is immediately wrong. It is just as wrong for you (or anyone) to lie about Americans as it is for any one of us to lie about Hindis. Stop being a hypocrite.
> the Amiga and Atari ST.... have you opened up one of those plastic-cased wonders?
Hold on there just one second, buckaroo... My Amiga 2000 came in a metal box! Ha! That means they were cool, right? err, no?
> people usually take 1000 meters per second as a bullet speed
From the article:
> dust grains will fly by the spacecraft at about 13,000 mph, or six times faster than a speeding bullet.
> Now my windows box (and mom and dads) on the other hand, need a IT staff of 20 to keep running.
Then you don't know how to use windows, nor do 19 of those people. If you're going to be honest on one side, be honest on the other too. OSX may be better than Windows (dunno, never used it, I'm guessing it is) but don't make ridiculous comments like that.
> Wow! Goldfish(Carp) are one of the most hardy fish around
Unless you get them from a Carnival or Fair in the U.S. It was meant to be a joke, as Goldfish (yeah I know they are carp) are often prizes at fairs for yaweh-only-knows-why, but they have a tendency to die quickly for a number of reasons:
1) They are kept in huge quantities in small tanks, making fishie-diseases (& stress) spread quickly.
2) They are given to people in plastic bags filled with tapwater -- not the best conditions. Then carried & tossed around all day while at the fair (in the heat, usually)
3) The people who get them don't know how to take care of a fish as a pet.
Please note, I'm not a Goldfish rights activist trying to spread awareness about the cruelty to little pet fishies everywhere. I don't care about them or their "unbearable conditions", just explaining my post.
> Something that is a barrier to reproduction -- which producing all males is -- is not going to spread.
No, no, it is NOT a barrier to reproduction. That would be to make them all infertile. This is a barrier to finding a mate, which is similar, but not the same. Think of it statistically:
Every male with this gene has exactly as much chance of reproducing as one without. If you put enough of them in the area, you can guarantee that some of them will pass on the gene.
I don't think that fish will mutate & grow this-gene-sensing organs within 100 years, so the chance of natural selection putting much of a dent in this seems silly to me.
This will spread, but I agree that it is nearly impossible to wipe out all carp with this method, but it can at least lower their numbers enough to come up with a more manageable (and permanent) solution.
> Until you organize you will remaim shmucks while the doctors get legislation passed
Umm, lawyers are the ones who get laws passed: that's what they do. And by "you," you do not mean me, even if you think you do. I am organized. But you just made assumptions to try & belittle me, as most do to others here.
From what I have seen, unions are to protect the workers' rights against their employers.
Associations are more general and lobby for bills, educate their members in recent technology, but I haven't heard of them doing any substantial legal representation for the lowest of their members (which is what unions were supposed to be about, although they are not).
> The geeks are shmucks
Eh, yes & no, depending on your meaning. Too smart to be fooled, too lazy to be active (but not too lazy to complain incessantly)...
> You keep calling them shit from your mothers basement
Actually, I said "shit" from the comfort of my job. Once. I didn't call anything "shit" and I certainly don't "keep calling them" anything. See, I made a statement that is not directly related to the conversation. You are supposed to think about it (not too long, hopefully) and come up with the reason I said it. I didn't call anything shit, I made ana analogy. I could have just as easily said "You can call a duck a quargle, but it's still a duck." You missed the point completely.
> You are begging the question, "What does the word 'create' mean?"
I beg for nothing. To create means to make something that did not previously exist. The Internet existed before Gore assigned to it huge gobs of money (which I am not complaining about).
> Did Beethoven "create" the Eroica Symphony?
> The notes and instruments were already there. All he did was arrange them...
Oh man, the temptation to flame here is too much. Have you ever studied music for a single moment in your life? Evidently not, as Beethoven did not "create" any music. Have you ever heard of a "musical arrangement"? What about "composing"? You even used the right word (arrange)! That's what he did; he did not actually "create" anything.
> > FP (Score:-1, Redundant)
> Re:FP (Score:0, Redundant)
Wow, talk about abuse of power by a fucking asshat moderator who either thinks he's funny or thinks he's in control. You are neither, you clueless fucking dork. I don't care about Karma, but at least mod it CORRECTLY. Geez, grow a single fucking brain cell and LEARN TO READ. Redundant means it has been said over & over, neither of which these were since they were on the FIRST THREAD. Damn, you are stupid.
> they are rarely used for food
Umm, that doesn't sound right... I'm not saying rabbits ARE used for food, just that people have a reason for wanting them, whereas carp are not considered quite so precious.
> If something is as publicly available as wild animal it is very easy for someone to transport it.
Okay, valid point... Except people (outside AU) like bunnies. Carp aren't cute & cuddly. Also, they are rarely used for food. Rabbits are also easier to transport -- they don't need quite as much water.
> "Invent" is an accurate paraphrasing
Please don't think I'm defending that whiner Gore, but he said "create." I can create a TCP/IP network, but I cannot invent a TCP/IP network, as it has already been done. They are different words. So it is not an accurate paraphrasing. I still think he was wrong, but not as intentionally wrong as you imply.
> I created dinner last night
/.!!!
Holy crap, I didn't know God was on
Good thing you don't have that pesky "conservation of mass" thing to deal with.
Wait, no, you PREPARED dinner last night -- using the materials you had/bought (food, spices, etc.), you arranged them in such a combination and order to produce an extremely tasty and satisfying meal. You did not create anything. You rearranged them to look different together than each does individually, but no new thing was created. It was all there before, it's all there now (ignoring chemical reactions in cooking/charring, etc. of course).
You are trying to redefine the word "create," when it is just not accurate. You are also adding words that Gore did not say. I may disagree with some of his politics, but I don't think for a second that he meant the exact words he said. I doubt he was trying to take credit for making the Internet' as he did not. He misspoke (or to be nicer, didn't choose his words well enough), that is all.
> they're resting!
Should be "They're pining for the fjords."
> I am pretty sure that not all people can afford the choice of buying an SUV.
Nope, but they can choose to ride the bus. Bus vs. SUV... Hmmm...
> And humanity will be forever free from this scourge!
Or until some fruitcake fucks a monkey and the next AIDS ends up in humans being easily communicable by breath. Nature has a lot more diseases than we know, and more appear all the time.
> so that they really get the birds attention when moving.
:)
I think the point is to keep birds AWAY from turbines, not to get them curious and inspect it close-up.
I understand that you're probably not a specialist in solar cells, but I was thinking about this and was too lazy to find a better place to post it.
If we were to put solar cells in the desert, would they have to be raised & angled so that sand doesn't collect on it? Or would that even be a problem? What about sand scratching up the surface of the collectors?
> I say go nuclear, the true green energy source
:)
Yes, and it's a glowing green. Much more visually pleasing.