Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. There are corrupt people in every government. To claim that any Gov is free from corruption is either naieve or ignorant.
Personally, I feel that "civilized society" has no place existing. It hasn't brought much more REAL gain than less world hunger... which is leading to overpopulation. Retribution has its place, and to say it has zero positive applications is deluding yourself. Retribution/revenge is a perfectly natural desire and is very often deserved.
Just because something is called a felony doesn't make it worse. I've snorted coke a few times, that means I'm a bad person. Lock me away because I tried a drug (which, by the way, isn't all its cracked up to be -- no pun intended).
This is not fair at all. He isn't using his crimes to seek employment, he is using his knowledge to gain employment. He just happens to have been a felon, big deal. An even bigger point here is defining ethics -- how is it dihonest to apply for a job and disclose the fact that you have been arrested? It would only be dishonest if he claimed he was a different Kevin Mitnick.
In addition it does not penalize any law-abiders. The only possible drawback is 1 (un, ein, uno, one sole person out of 6 fucking billion) person will not be getting that job that Kevin has received because -- guess what, HE'S MORE QUALIFIED! He knows what he is talking about. So what if he was a hacker, as long as he doesn't do it to you, or to someone else while at work. Personal life is personal life, leave it out of business decisions.
Knowledge is knowledge, however you get it. If I blew shit up in my back yard as a kid, which would be illegal, is it morally unethical to use that knowledge to base my studies in nuclear propulsion? Or being closer to reality, in pyrotechnics? What if that "illegal activity" happened when I was 15? 25? Are you sure? Are you using a double-standard?
> In any event, the KDS Rad-5 is a good monitor and worth the money
I agree. The Hospital I work for bought about 20 of the RAD-5's and they have all worked beautifully, except 2 or 3 of them seemed blurry, but after having it resync a few times it went away.
I agree. Besides, why the heck should we come up with a new term? What's wrong with the old one or, in this case, a simplification of the term. Why make new words that don't mean anything.
Reading this, I get the impression the European Wireless service is crap compared to US. Why the hell should you pay more because the person you are calling is on another network? Or especially on land? I have never heard of that in America. My wireless has from-anywhere to-anywhere in the country for the same rate (free or charged minutes).
I think an important part of this bull is that these were honeypots. They are built for the exact purpose of getting malicious connections. No shit that there were a lot of them.
I didn't believe you in particular would reply with anything. When I post something to/. I make posts, not replies. I wasn't implying YOU would say something mindless, I meant "please, anyone who is reading, don't waste my (and all of our) time by posting off-the-handle replies that don't give any facts. That is a very common occurence here, so it was a valid precaution. (okay, precaution is a slightly self-indulgent way of saying it, but the meaning's still there)
You suggested I say > Could you expound on your statement a bit?
What I DID say was: > > Can you be a little more specific? What bad traits of government have[...]
So I said almost exactly what you suggested before you suggested it.
A few things to take note of yourself in the future: 1) You say "I will not bother with you," but then you DO bother trying to explain why I am rude. If you say I won't bother, then don't I think you would have made a better impact leaving it at that. Heck, I might have been stunned into not replying. HAHA, foolish mortal!
2) Your entire experience with me is one post made to a site that is generally very opinionated and rude (to be blunt) and yet you assert that I am a rude person? Talk about arrogance.
3) Assuming the worst, that I was gunning for you for some reason -- This is a public forum, and while there are usernames, it is mostly anonymous. I don't know anything about you, I don't make statements about you. Don't take things so personally, and get off your high horse (yes, that one was aimed directly for you).
4) Since I said what you suggested, obviously I was "interested in discussion." While I can't claim I don't feel small in life, because I do, I don't generally take that out on other people by pointing out their flaws (except in this case -- turnabout is fair play).
I am one of the nicest people in the world, and I get really fucking sick of assholes like you getting a superiority complex and trying to make me feel like I'm a jerk. If you don't like what I say, ignore it. It's that simple. You should figure out yourself before suggesting someone else do the same.
> It seems like no matter how embedded in our culture the idea that certain traits of governments are bad and that we must rally against them, these traits continue to crop up
Can you be a little more specific? What bad traits of government have cropped up that are similar to dystopic works that were not there previous to those works being created (or have gotten worse)? And PLEASE, don't say mindless things like "We've lost our freedoms" or "The Police State has taken away the rights of others" without backing it up with facts.
> has the U.S. become more or less like the vision of 1984 since publication?
If I must quantize "big-brother-ness", more, but not because we are achieving dystopia, but because you are looking only at specific qualities. For instance, 1984 doesn't even come close to taking into account freedom of information, such as media (who, despite its bias, usually reports the "important" things) and namely, the Internet.
> The point is, the ice caps are melting [...] we are screwed. > So whether this change is natural or man-made, we need to figure out how, or if, we can stop it, or at least slow it down.
Whether you believe environmentalist rhetoric or anti-eviromentalist rhetoric, this is a terrible idea. Accidentally changing the temperature is really bad, but doing it on purpose, regardless of cause, is good. no way, nuh-uh, fuggeddaboudit.
> These studies do not contradict the fact that human induced warming is occuring
Mostly because it is not a fact.
>Potentially, human induced warming can be much much greater than what weve seen so far
Potentially, it could be much less that we've seen so far.
Potentially, I could explode this very moment... Doesn't mean there's a good chance of it.
> The studies show that warmer temperatures lead to more extreme weather.
As do colder temperatures. The only way to not have any "extreme" weather is to be in total equilibrium. Of course then there'd be no weather at all....
Then you say the exact same thing substituting natrual factors for "human factors," since humans are obviously not natural.
>even if there are OTHER factors (solar variability etc) leading to warmer temperatures, CO2 is a well known greenhouse gas, without it, the earth would have an average temperature below freezing, solar variability or not.
Which is a good thing, so I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say here. CO2 is necessary for life.
>Other natural factors leading to warming would suggest that we do even more to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and increase sequestration of gasses, to counteract the very changes in weather that these studies suggest warmer temperatures bring.
So by doing this we will then bring about the next Ice Age? There is just as much "proof" for that as there is the inverse.
> the US wouldn't meddle in the middle east. Iraqis and Iranian governments would have no reason to hate us
That is a whole load of crap for many reasons. The US will meddle wherever it will because it can, and it would find some other commodity to bitch about. Iraq & Iran would still hate us for cultural reasons. Oil isn't the only thing going on in the M.East.
Please excuse my ignorance, but wouldn't the energy coming from the sun (and conversely the heat the earth radiates) make it not a closed system? I'm not trying to be an ass, I sincerly do not know.
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Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. There are corrupt people in every government. To claim that any Gov is free from corruption is either naieve or ignorant.
Personally, I feel that "civilized society" has no place existing. It hasn't brought much more REAL gain than less world hunger... which is leading to overpopulation. Retribution has its place, and to say it has zero positive applications is deluding yourself. Retribution/revenge is a perfectly natural desire and is very often deserved.
All prison systems are trash. It's a stupid idea that doesn't work.
Just because something is called a felony doesn't make it worse. I've snorted coke a few times, that means I'm a bad person. Lock me away because I tried a drug (which, by the way, isn't all its cracked up to be -- no pun intended).
> You have NO RIGHT to judge this guy
Bullshit, I have the right to judge whomever I damned well please! You make judgements every second of your life, there is no way about it.
Not that I think the rest of your message is wrong.
> if he didn't design the V2, those people killed by V2s wouldn't have been killed by V2s
Wow, how insightful... They would not have been killed by V2s if they didn't exist, they would have been killed by OTHER WEAPONS.
The weapons are not the problem, it is the people who have them.
This is not fair at all. He isn't using his crimes to seek employment, he is using his knowledge to gain employment. He just happens to have been a felon, big deal. An even bigger point here is defining ethics -- how is it dihonest to apply for a job and disclose the fact that you have been arrested? It would only be dishonest if he claimed he was a different Kevin Mitnick.
In addition it does not penalize any law-abiders. The only possible drawback is 1 (un, ein, uno, one sole person out of 6 fucking billion) person will not be getting that job that Kevin has received because -- guess what, HE'S MORE QUALIFIED! He knows what he is talking about. So what if he was a hacker, as long as he doesn't do it to you, or to someone else while at work. Personal life is personal life, leave it out of business decisions.
Knowledge is knowledge, however you get it. If I blew shit up in my back yard as a kid, which would be illegal, is it morally unethical to use that knowledge to base my studies in nuclear propulsion? Or being closer to reality, in pyrotechnics? What if that "illegal activity" happened when I was 15? 25? Are you sure? Are you using a double-standard?
> In any event, the KDS Rad-5 is a good monitor and worth the money
I agree. The Hospital I work for bought about 20 of the RAD-5's and they have all worked beautifully, except 2 or 3 of them seemed blurry, but after having it resync a few times it went away.
> You _can_ just buy a phone and by popping the SIM card in
Is that why they are so expensive to use?
Well, of course. I realize you can't just buy a phone and have it magically know what it's supposed to listen for, but it only takes a few minutes.
> Did you totally miss the modifier "context-sensitive"? That means it takes the context into account and shouldn't rule out chicken breast.
He said there were context-sensitive words, not that the program actually checked the context.
OR because you were in a disfavored group you did not notice that the regular employees weren't treated that much better than the temps...
Amazing how knowledge ruins humor.
I agree. Besides, why the heck should we come up with a new term? What's wrong with the old one or, in this case, a simplification of the term. Why make new words that don't mean anything.
> I'm not mistaken Americans still have there "number" programmed in the phone itself
You are very much mistaken. I have had the same number for about 3 years now and have used 3 entirely different phones during that time.
> none of that ridiculous "get charged for receiving calls" that they have in the US
Don't know where you get your information, but I've never been charged to receive calls.
Reading this, I get the impression the European Wireless service is crap compared to US. Why the hell should you pay more because the person you are calling is on another network? Or especially on land? I have never heard of that in America. My wireless has from-anywhere to-anywhere in the country for the same rate (free or charged minutes).
I think an important part of this bull is that these were honeypots. They are built for the exact purpose of getting malicious connections. No shit that there were a lot of them.
I didn't believe you in particular would reply with anything. When I post something to /. I make posts, not replies. I wasn't implying YOU would say something mindless, I meant "please, anyone who is reading, don't waste my (and all of our) time by posting off-the-handle replies that don't give any facts. That is a very common occurence here, so it was a valid precaution. (okay, precaution is a slightly self-indulgent way of saying it, but the meaning's still there)
You suggested I say
> Could you expound on your statement a bit?
What I DID say was:
> > Can you be a little more specific? What bad traits of government have[...]
So I said almost exactly what you suggested before you suggested it.
A few things to take note of yourself in the future:
1) You say "I will not bother with you," but then you DO bother trying to explain why I am rude. If you say I won't bother, then don't I think you would have made a better impact leaving it at that. Heck, I might have been stunned into not replying. HAHA, foolish mortal!
2) Your entire experience with me is one post made to a site that is generally very opinionated and rude (to be blunt) and yet you assert that I am a rude person? Talk about arrogance.
3) Assuming the worst, that I was gunning for you for some reason -- This is a public forum, and while there are usernames, it is mostly anonymous. I don't know anything about you, I don't make statements about you. Don't take things so personally, and get off your high horse (yes, that one was aimed directly for you).
4) Since I said what you suggested, obviously I was "interested in discussion." While I can't claim I don't feel small in life, because I do, I don't generally take that out on other people by pointing out their flaws (except in this case -- turnabout is fair play).
I am one of the nicest people in the world, and I get really fucking sick of assholes like you getting a superiority complex and trying to make me feel like I'm a jerk. If you don't like what I say, ignore it. It's that simple. You should figure out yourself before suggesting someone else do the same.
> It seems like no matter how embedded in our culture the idea that certain traits of governments are bad and that we must rally against them, these traits continue to crop up
Can you be a little more specific? What bad traits of government have cropped up that are similar to dystopic works that were not there previous to those works being created (or have gotten worse)? And PLEASE, don't say mindless things like "We've lost our freedoms" or "The Police State has taken away the rights of others" without backing it up with facts.
> has the U.S. become more or less like the vision of 1984 since publication?
If I must quantize "big-brother-ness", more, but not because we are achieving dystopia, but because you are looking only at specific qualities. For instance, 1984 doesn't even come close to taking into account freedom of information, such as media (who, despite its bias, usually reports the "important" things) and namely, the Internet.
> The point is, the ice caps are melting [...] we are screwed.
> So whether this change is natural or man-made, we need to figure out how, or if, we can stop it, or at least slow it down.
Whether you believe environmentalist rhetoric or anti-eviromentalist rhetoric, this is a terrible idea. Accidentally changing the temperature is really bad, but doing it on purpose, regardless of cause, is good. no way, nuh-uh, fuggeddaboudit.
> These studies do not contradict the fact that human induced warming is occuring
Mostly because it is not a fact.
>Potentially, human induced warming can be much much greater than what weve seen so far
Potentially, it could be much less that we've seen so far.
Potentially, I could explode this very moment... Doesn't mean there's a good chance of it.
> The studies show that warmer temperatures lead to more extreme weather.
As do colder temperatures. The only way to not have any "extreme" weather is to be in total equilibrium. Of course then there'd be no weather at all....
Then you say the exact same thing substituting natrual factors for "human factors," since humans are obviously not natural.
>even if there are OTHER factors (solar variability etc) leading to warmer temperatures, CO2 is a well known greenhouse gas, without it, the earth would have an average temperature below freezing, solar variability or not.
Which is a good thing, so I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say here. CO2 is necessary for life.
>Other natural factors leading to warming would suggest that we do even more to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and increase sequestration of gasses, to counteract the very changes in weather that these studies suggest warmer temperatures bring.
So by doing this we will then bring about the next Ice Age? There is just as much "proof" for that as there is the inverse.
> the US wouldn't meddle in the middle east. Iraqis and Iranian governments would have no reason to hate us
That is a whole load of crap for many reasons. The US will meddle wherever it will because it can, and it would find some other commodity to bitch about. Iraq & Iran would still hate us for cultural reasons. Oil isn't the only thing going on in the M.East.
> Does anone know where one could find the yearly mean temperature for say the last 2000 years?
You can't, that's why we're still arguing about it.
> the Earth is a gigantic closed system
Please excuse my ignorance, but wouldn't the energy coming from the sun (and conversely the heat the earth radiates) make it not a closed system? I'm not trying to be an ass, I sincerly do not know.