AFAIK No, They would not be required to pay it back, although I imagine a company could sue them for wrongfully "pointing the finger" to get their money back.
> a few OEM pcs with preinstalled Windows98 SE, small software packages etc, but no media or license retention
This brings up a very interesting point. What about those millions of HPs, Gateways, etc that came preinstalled and there was no product identification or paper licenses given with the computer? Then there is no way to "prove" you bought the software.
Whenever someone talks about "lost jobs" anywhere, it's almost ALWAYS a case of different jobs instead of lost jobs, but they say "lost" to upset people.
> > Anyone who thinks this is sexist has a problem which your essay is not here to address.
> Anyone who thinks that using female pronouns is unproffessional [sic] has a sexist bent that really shouldn't be pandered to
Wow, you just proved his point in your FIRST SENTENCE. Amazing sense of debate you have there. It is unprofessional because it is incorrect.
Women avoid programming because they choose not to go into it. As far as I can recall I have never read anything saying women should not, can not, or will not go into programming for any reason other than lack of interest.
I don't like this argument either, but if the large majority of the audience/subjects is male (as you claim) then why shouldn't the pronouns be masculine? If the target audience is female, feminine pronouns would be more than adequate.
Personally, I think it is quite healthy for people to quit moaning about insignificant grammatical matters.
I know where I get it from. Life experience. I'm not exactly socially inept (maybe slightly retarded, but not inept). It's hard enough to get a girl to talk to me at all, let alone to tell them I'm a SysAdmin. They always ask what that is, I explain, and they say "Oh" and move on to the next subject because they don't care. I don't even spend much time on computers... I go out almost every day (I'm not a gamehead any more, I got bored of all the same old crap).
I'm well-groomed and well-dressed and well-ignored. In that, I am pissed off at your assertion that there are ladies for everyone, because I must not be part of that "everyone" group. I've been waiting, waiting, and actively searching, to get nothing but a quick conversation. Not that I blame you or anyone else for this, but some people are just destined to be alone. Hopefully I'm not one of them, but my situation is getting bleaker.
> You can clone a body, but you cannot clone a soul.
Says you... I suppose in a sense, I believe you are right, but I don't really believe in the existence of "Soul" as some kind of spiritual entity separate from the body. What we call soul, IMO, is just our way of explaining awareness.
But, maybe I'm the only or one of the few without soul (but I got rhythm).
> Just post the text anonymous. No karma gift, no problem....
While I understand the dislike of Karma whoring, WHO CARES. Karma is not a competition to see who can get the most points. If you don't want to give someone mod points, then don't. If I am posting something, I don't post AC because I don't think about checking the "Post Anonymously" box. I put more time into what I am saying instead of caring if anyone knows who I am. Hell, I don't even know what my karma is, and have never checked it. I don't even know where you find out... where do you find out? I'm assuming it's under prefs or something...?
Jesus fuck, people on slashdot don't fucking read very well before insulting others. Either that, or they ("we" actually, I claim much responsibility as well) are so arrogant that they have to put down others any chance they can get.
1. I didn't say Gobbles was stupid, I asked a question based on stated facts that seemed questionable 2. That's why I said they were "full of shit" 3. It isn't anywhere near "Clear" that this guy is a joker, since about 95% of the people on here took the same stance as me. 4. That's where the confusion in my post was. If you would have just said that, you could have avoided the flamebaitish insults, but of course that is too much to ask of anyone in the world (not just you).
The real question is: can the fragile internet economy really help local tax economies now?
"Fragile internet economy" my ass.... Hell, "Internet Economy" too while you're at it. The Internet is not its own economy, it is a part of all other economies, and sure as hell isn't fragile. It may not be in trillions of dollars, but it's not going to collapse or anything. Heck, it's less fragile IMO because it's not trillion-dollar. Of course, IANAEconomist.
Yes, they called themselves the largest not-for-profit hacking (something like that) group, with 17+ members. Wow, large group there. 17+... what's that, 18?
> RIAA gets one day to make the P2P networks all DDOS themselves
Another poster responded pointing out that the RIAA version is not the DDoS, which is correct (or at least as correct as a discussion of a hoax can get), but Gobbles claimed to have a DDoS version of their own. So, as soon as KaZaA et al. comes crashing to a halt (don't hold your breath) we know exactly who to blame and to kill.
Now you've hit the hammer on the head or something. I am (fairly) sure the RIAA wouldn't be dumb enough to try this or even to suggest this. I believe you are correct that either Gobbles hates the RIAA and wants to make themselves (or himself, I'm not convinced it's more than 1-2 people) look big and get some free press.
Don't think I've heard that one before. Does that actually work? (no, my dog does not have worms, so I'm not about to go out & buy some Big Red on the suggestion of/., I was just curious)
I guess that depends.... IANAL and don't claim to have any understanding of the law at all, but I'm not sure it's illegal to suggest/ask someone to do something illegal. I think you would "have to" report it if you actually did the illegal thing, or witnessed someone else doing it.
But of course, I don't know and am throwing my half-pfennig in.
I looked at that for a second, out of curiosity, and noticed this: GOBBLES understand that there are some confusion concerning the operation of his group website www.bugtraq.org
Is he saying that "Gobbles" runs Bugtraq.org? Am I missing something here, or is he full of shit? Am I confusing two different sites or something?
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> Jesus of Nazareth did not die so we could enjoy eggs and chocolate bunnies!
Blasphemer! The Holy One himself created Peeps from the sands of time for all to enjoy for eternity!
> Or maybe that war was "contrived and forced down people's throats"
Well, really it was. Most people didn't want to be independent from England, they didn't care that much. They were too busy trying to survive.
BUT, I get your point.
> War sucks, especially when it's for no good reason
Yes, thankfully there are plenty of good reasons for this one, so it doesn't suck quite as bad.
AFAIK No, They would not be required to pay it back, although I imagine a company could sue them for wrongfully "pointing the finger" to get their money back.
> Does the average Joe User know how to make a bootable CD?
Does Joe User have any idea what flashing a BIOS is? Will they ever need to do it? no.
> a few OEM pcs with preinstalled Windows98 SE, small software packages etc, but no media or license retention
This brings up a very interesting point. What about those millions of HPs, Gateways, etc that came preinstalled and there was no product identification or paper licenses given with the computer? Then there is no way to "prove" you bought the software.
Whenever someone talks about "lost jobs" anywhere, it's almost ALWAYS a case of different jobs instead of lost jobs, but they say "lost" to upset people.
Yes, but it is the power of SIX BILLION rubber bands (or however many people are "alive" during the movie setting)...
> > Anyone who thinks this is sexist has a
problem which your essay is not here to
address.
> Anyone who thinks that using female pronouns is unproffessional [sic] has a sexist bent that really shouldn't be pandered to
Wow, you just proved his point in your FIRST SENTENCE. Amazing sense of debate you have there. It is unprofessional because it is incorrect.
Women avoid programming because they choose not to go into it. As far as I can recall I have never read anything saying women should not, can not, or will not go into programming for any reason other than lack of interest.
I don't like this argument either, but if the large majority of the audience/subjects is male (as you claim) then why shouldn't the pronouns be masculine? If the target audience is female, feminine pronouns would be more than adequate.
Personally, I think it is quite healthy for people to quit moaning about insignificant grammatical matters.
> With these 4 easy steps, you too can be one of the last people to be laid by your employer!
Think I'll NOT follow these, as that doesn't sound too appealing to me.
I know where I get it from. Life experience. I'm not exactly socially inept (maybe slightly retarded, but not inept). It's hard enough to get a girl to talk to me at all, let alone to tell them I'm a SysAdmin. They always ask what that is, I explain, and they say "Oh" and move on to the next subject because they don't care. I don't even spend much time on computers... I go out almost every day (I'm not a gamehead any more, I got bored of all the same old crap).
I'm well-groomed and well-dressed and well-ignored. In that, I am pissed off at your assertion that there are ladies for everyone, because I must not be part of that "everyone" group. I've been waiting, waiting, and actively searching, to get nothing but a quick conversation. Not that I blame you or anyone else for this, but some people are just destined to be alone. Hopefully I'm not one of them, but my situation is getting bleaker.
> You can clone a body, but you cannot clone a soul.
Says you... I suppose in a sense, I believe you are right, but I don't really believe in the existence of "Soul" as some kind of spiritual entity separate from the body. What we call soul, IMO, is just our way of explaining awareness.
But, maybe I'm the only or one of the few without soul (but I got rhythm).
Or a fifth of whiskey...
> Just post the text anonymous. No karma gift, no problem....
While I understand the dislike of Karma whoring, WHO CARES. Karma is not a competition to see who can get the most points. If you don't want to give someone mod points, then don't. If I am posting something, I don't post AC because I don't think about checking the "Post Anonymously" box. I put more time into what I am saying instead of caring if anyone knows who I am. Hell, I don't even know what my karma is, and have never checked it. I don't even know where you find out... where do you find out? I'm assuming it's under prefs or something...?
Jesus fuck, people on slashdot don't fucking read very well before insulting others. Either that, or they ("we" actually, I claim much responsibility as well) are so arrogant that they have to put down others any chance they can get.
1. I didn't say Gobbles was stupid, I asked a question based on stated facts that seemed questionable
2. That's why I said they were "full of shit"
3. It isn't anywhere near "Clear" that this guy is a joker, since about 95% of the people on here took the same stance as me.
4. That's where the confusion in my post was. If you would have just said that, you could have avoided the flamebaitish insults, but of course that is too much to ask of anyone in the world (not just you).
You can't handle the truth!
I didn't see anyone else post it, so I did. (Probably already said by an AC, but oh well)
> Besides, "if you are not doing anything illegal, you have nothing to worry about."
I hate that phrase, even when used in jest. It gives me this nasty pit in my stomach. And I'm not even a total privacy freak.
The real question is: can the fragile internet economy really help local tax economies now?
"Fragile internet economy" my ass.... Hell, "Internet Economy" too while you're at it. The Internet is not its own economy, it is a part of all other economies, and sure as hell isn't fragile. It may not be in trillions of dollars, but it's not going to collapse or anything. Heck, it's less fragile IMO because it's not trillion-dollar. Of course, IANAEconomist.
> Then again, they're supposedly a large group.
Yes, they called themselves the largest not-for-profit hacking (something like that) group, with 17+ members. Wow, large group there. 17+... what's that, 18?
> RIAA gets one day to make the P2P networks all DDOS themselves
Another poster responded pointing out that the RIAA version is not the DDoS, which is correct (or at least as correct as a discussion of a hoax can get), but Gobbles claimed to have a DDoS version of their own. So, as soon as KaZaA et al. comes crashing to a halt (don't hold your breath) we know exactly who to blame and to kill.
Now you've hit the hammer on the head or something. I am (fairly) sure the RIAA wouldn't be dumb enough to try this or even to suggest this. I believe you are correct that either Gobbles hates the RIAA and wants to make themselves (or himself, I'm not convinced it's more than 1-2 people) look big and get some free press.
Never use "RIAA" and "not [...] stupid enough" in the same sentence... It's bound to get you proved wrong.
> you force feed the pooch a huge wad of "Chaw".
/., I was just curious)
Don't think I've heard that one before. Does that actually work? (no, my dog does not have worms, so I'm not about to go out & buy some Big Red on the suggestion of
I guess that depends.... IANAL and don't claim to have any understanding of the law at all, but I'm not sure it's illegal to suggest/ask someone to do something illegal. I think you would "have to" report it if you actually did the illegal thing, or witnessed someone else doing it.
But of course, I don't know and am throwing my half-pfennig in.
I looked at that for a second, out of curiosity, and noticed this:
GOBBLES understand that there are some confusion concerning the operation of his group website www.bugtraq.org
Is he saying that "Gobbles" runs Bugtraq.org? Am I missing something here, or is he full of shit? Am I confusing two different sites or something?