Seriously, I believed it to be ALMOST totally bogus until I read the Gobbles Adfvisory. Then I was fully convinced of its bullshittedness (nice new word).
If the RIAA version spread to all those computers in a mattrer of minutes, this would do the same, and it would not go unnoticed if 95% of those computers were infected with TWO worms, let alone one, considering the massive number of people possibly noticing.
Also, something from the article:
The Berman bill, ensured a copyright owner would not be liable for "[...] otherwise impairing the unauthorized distribution, display, performance, or reproduction of his or her copyrighted work on a publicly accessible peer-to-peer file trading network, if such impairment does not, without authorization, alter, delete, or otherwise impair the integrity of any computer file or data residing on the computer of a file trader." Berman is expected to re-introduce the bill in this Congressional session.
So, to explain why I quoted that, the RIAA would not do this yet (or at least release it) since the "law" this is relying on HASN'T EVEN BEEN ARGUED, let alone voted or passed. Plus, the bold-type will point out that even if it were a law, a worm/virus could not be used, as that would alter files (data) on the computer, which is not allowed under the bill.
Seriously, I believed it to be ALMOST totally bogus until I read that. Then I was convinced it was bull.
If the RIAA version spread to all those computers in a mattrer of minutes, this would do the same, and it would not go unnoticed if 95% of those computers were infected with TWO worms, let alone one, considering the massive number of people possibly noticing.
Also, something from the article:
The Berman bill, ensured a copyright owner would not be liable for "[...] otherwise impairing the unauthorized distribution, display, performance, or reproduction of his or her copyrighted work on a publicly accessible peer-to-peer file trading network, if such impairment does not, without authorization, alter, delete, or otherwise impair the integrity of any computer file or data residing on the computer of a file trader." Berman is expected to re-introduce the bill in this Congressional session.
So, to explain why I quoted that, the RIAA would not do this yet (or at least release it) since the "law" this is relying on HASN'T EVEN BEEN ARGUED, let alone voted or passed. Plus, the bold-type will point out that even if it were a law, a worm/virus could not be used, as that would alter files (data) on the computer, which is not allowed under the bill.
Gobbles always has been, and probably will always be some poor schmuck who wants to make a name for himself by making unsubstantiated bold-faced lies.
If you disagree, too bad.... It's just my Never-Humble opinion.
> > They won't get far with just 4 digits. >...stealing personal information you provide to an unsecured site on the Internet....
Umm, I think they meant they could get the WHOLE number from unsecured sites. If you put in 4 digits and the site ended up being unsecure, they can only get those 4. The other 5 digits don't just magicaly apear on the site...
Setup: Original poster said, Palladium is ALL about DRM
The reply basically said "get your head out of your ass, Palladium is not DRM"...
Then you "call his bluff" by reinforcing his own arguments? Palladium will not require DRM, and DRM will not require Palladium
I'm not trying to be an ass (haha, of course I am, that's why I'm on/.) but some people need to read a little closer before insulting others. To strengthen this point, I will probably later find out that I misunderstood the post and just made myself look stupid. Alas, such is my life.
> if you don't want DRM, don't run DRM based software
I have wondered a bit about this point. Admittedly, I haven't read even a small percentage of all info on DRM, but I was under the impression that DRM would ask if you wanted to run the untrusted software, warning you that it isn't signed. This is quite a bit different than refusing to run the software, so assuming I am correct in this, you have created a simplisticly enlightened answer that I think is best.
> What licensing is *supposed* to do is to let customers be assured that the person you are choosing *is* competent.
Hold on, buckaroo, isn't that why we have certification? Also, what exactly would the government test for? I'm a USCSE (U.S. Cert. Systems Engineer) as well as an MCSE. Will the Gov make us know Windows, Macs, and Linux, or will there be speciality licenses?
I don't seem to remember much (if anything_ from before I was 8 or so. I guess it's just that I've always had a bad memory and never cared to think about the past. Nothing traumatic happened to me to block out memories, and I never moved or anything. Hell, I've only broken one bone in my body (a finger in High School).
So why is it that people claim to remember things at one year old, and I can (honestly) barely remember anything from grade school. I've met people who were old teachers of mine, or neighbors, etc. and I could swear that I had never seen them before in my life.
Okay I have no idea what the heck you are talking about, but it sounds interesting. Not to pull you into an off-topic (and potentially karma-killing, if you care) conversation, but what is misinterpreted, and what does it have to do with his finger?
Talk about some closed-minded flamebait. There is just as much (or possibly MORE IMO, at least people report seeing UFOs) proof that they are right as Christians. And no, it's not just the cult leaders getting laid, it's more like an orgy. The leaders might get better chicks, but power=perks.
Christianity creates a private reality as well, and anything you said about Raelians applies to them as well (except the free sex thing of course).
My favorite part of your message is the last two sentences... All major religions recruit members, AND put the welfare of the group before individuals. Recruiting children into a religion (before they are even old enough to know better) ranks around the same as enslaving their minds for their whole life. At least there are clinics to help get you off smack. Religious freaks have only Slashdot, and only part of that is nonreligious.
The Raelians aren't really religious, I suppose, except that they believe that the God from the Bible, etc. is actually aliens from another planet (as opposed to aliens from our own planet, I suppose...) If you read the article, it says the aliens are called Elohim, which is an old name for God. (don't remember the language it's from tho... a little help any bible scholars?)
Blah, what crap. The U.S. isn't unsafe, it's that the people are so frickin' crazy. If it weren't for Americans, the U.S. would be a lot safer. (Just for the sake of saying so, I am against this proposed legislation)
> By that logic, we should take the seat belts out of all the cars
No, by that logic we should be allowed to drive without our seatbelts, but (in my state at least) evidently I am causing others pain by not strapping pieces of nylon across my chest and lap.
I don't care about the other games on it, I just want TriTowers... I've spent many drunken hours at local bars playing that. Well, that and Photo Hunt with the naked women. (hard to find differences in the photos when there's nekkid girls on the screen)
> Or, in this case, thinking in the can. > Isn't that where everyone does their best thinking anyway?;)
Close, in the bottle. At least I THINK I'm a genius when I'm in the bottle... Those punks at the bar didn't seem to think so though (*OUCH*, stop beating me, I'm smarter than you damnit!)
I'm (pretty) sure you're not serious, but wouldn't it be easier to build a gun that fires bullets you have instead of building explosive bullets that happen to work in the bulletless gun you own?
I'll have you know that I've wanted to firebomb large crowds since before Video games came around, and I still want to. Only difference is now I can do it on a computer when I get the urge, instead of going to Los Angeles. Maybe we WERE better off without games... I'd visit more peace rallies, toting AK's and grenades. MUWAHAHAHAHAA
> Just don't presume that what's fine for you should be good enough for the rest of us.
After a bit of thinking, I believe this pretty much sums up the whole point. Just because you don't like chocolate doesn't mean it should be illegal -- cuz' I sure like it. Thanks.
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Seriously, I believed it to be ALMOST totally bogus until I read the Gobbles Adfvisory. Then I was fully convinced of its bullshittedness (nice new word).
If the RIAA version spread to all those computers in a mattrer of minutes, this would do the same, and it would not go unnoticed if 95% of those computers were infected with TWO worms, let alone one, considering the massive number of people possibly noticing.
Also, something from the article:
The Berman bill, ensured a copyright owner would not be liable for "[...] otherwise impairing the unauthorized distribution, display, performance, or reproduction of his or her copyrighted work on a publicly accessible peer-to-peer file trading network, if such impairment does not, without authorization, alter, delete, or otherwise impair the integrity of any computer file or data residing on the computer of a file trader." Berman is expected to re-introduce the bill in this Congressional session.
So, to explain why I quoted that, the RIAA would not do this yet (or at least release it) since the "law" this is relying on HASN'T EVEN BEEN ARGUED, let alone voted or passed. Plus, the bold-type will point out that even if it were a law, a worm/virus could not be used, as that would alter files (data) on the computer, which is not allowed under the bill.
Can you say "I'm full of shit?"
Seriously, I believed it to be ALMOST totally bogus until I read that. Then I was convinced it was bull.
If the RIAA version spread to all those computers in a mattrer of minutes, this would do the same, and it would not go unnoticed if 95% of those computers were infected with TWO worms, let alone one, considering the massive number of people possibly noticing.
Also, something from the article:
The Berman bill, ensured a copyright owner would not be liable for "[...] otherwise impairing the unauthorized distribution, display, performance, or reproduction of his or her copyrighted work on a publicly accessible peer-to-peer file trading network, if such impairment does not, without authorization, alter, delete, or otherwise impair the integrity of any computer file or data residing on the computer of a file trader." Berman is expected to re-introduce the bill in this Congressional session.
So, to explain why I quoted that, the RIAA would not do this yet (or at least release it) since the "law" this is relying on HASN'T EVEN BEEN ARGUED, let alone voted or passed. Plus, the bold-type will point out that even if it were a law, a worm/virus could not be used, as that would alter files (data) on the computer, which is not allowed under the bill.
Gobbles always has been, and probably will always be some poor schmuck who wants to make a name for himself by making unsubstantiated bold-faced lies.
If you disagree, too bad.... It's just my Never-Humble opinion.
> > They won't get far with just 4 digits. ...stealing personal information you provide to an unsecured site on the Internet....
>
Umm, I think they meant they could get the WHOLE number from unsecured sites. If you put in 4 digits and the site ended up being unsecure, they can only get those 4. The other 5 digits don't just magicaly apear on the site...
Setup:
...
/.) but some people need to read a little closer before insulting others. To strengthen this point, I will probably later find out that I misunderstood the post and just made myself look stupid. Alas, such is my life.
Original poster said, Palladium is ALL about DRM
The reply basically said "get your head out of your ass, Palladium is not DRM"
Then you "call his bluff" by reinforcing his own arguments?
Palladium will not require DRM, and DRM will not require Palladium
I'm not trying to be an ass (haha, of course I am, that's why I'm on
> your mind will be obscured by pr0n instead. ... and how is that any different than any other day?
> if you don't want DRM, don't run DRM based software
I have wondered a bit about this point. Admittedly, I haven't read even a small percentage of all info on DRM, but I was under the impression that DRM would ask if you wanted to run the untrusted software, warning you that it isn't signed. This is quite a bit different than refusing to run the software, so assuming I am correct in this, you have created a simplisticly enlightened answer that I think is best.
(ooh, long words I didn't need to use!)
> What licensing is *supposed* to do is to let customers be assured that the person you are choosing *is* competent.
Hold on, buckaroo, isn't that why we have certification? Also, what exactly would the government test for? I'm a USCSE (U.S. Cert. Systems Engineer) as well as an MCSE. Will the Gov make us know Windows, Macs, and Linux, or will there be speciality licenses?
I don't seem to remember much (if anything_ from before I was 8 or so. I guess it's just that I've always had a bad memory and never cared to think about the past. Nothing traumatic happened to me to block out memories, and I never moved or anything. Hell, I've only broken one bone in my body (a finger in High School).
So why is it that people claim to remember things at one year old, and I can (honestly) barely remember anything from grade school. I've met people who were old teachers of mine, or neighbors, etc. and I could swear that I had never seen them before in my life.
Okay I have no idea what the heck you are talking about, but it sounds interesting. Not to pull you into an off-topic (and potentially karma-killing, if you care) conversation, but what is misinterpreted, and what does it have to do with his finger?
> If you clone yourself and it gives you a BJ, is it considered oral sex or masturabation?
And, could you rightly be accused of incest?
Talk about some closed-minded flamebait. There is just as much (or possibly MORE IMO, at least people report seeing UFOs) proof that they are right as Christians. And no, it's not just the cult leaders getting laid, it's more like an orgy. The leaders might get better chicks, but power=perks.
Christianity creates a private reality as well, and anything you said about Raelians applies to them as well (except the free sex thing of course).
My favorite part of your message is the last two sentences... All major religions recruit members, AND put the welfare of the group before individuals. Recruiting children into a religion (before they are even old enough to know better) ranks around the same as enslaving their minds for their whole life. At least there are clinics to help get you off smack. Religious freaks have only Slashdot, and only part of that is nonreligious.
The Raelians aren't really religious, I suppose, except that they believe that the God from the Bible, etc. is actually aliens from another planet (as opposed to aliens from our own planet, I suppose...) If you read the article, it says the aliens are called Elohim, which is an old name for God. (don't remember the language it's from tho... a little help any bible scholars?)
> not any better than the medical experiments conducted by the Nazis.
Ooh, ooh, I'll do the obligatory invokation of Goodwin's law...
... Assuming you died in a place where the temperature never changes... like a vacuum?
> The US is just unsafe
Blah, what crap. The U.S. isn't unsafe, it's that the people are so frickin' crazy. If it weren't for Americans, the U.S. would be a lot safer. (Just for the sake of saying so, I am against this proposed legislation)
I'm Nitpicking....
> By that logic, we should take the seat belts out of all the cars
No, by that logic we should be allowed to drive without our seatbelts, but (in my state at least) evidently I am causing others pain by not strapping pieces of nylon across my chest and lap.
zero-click shopping, where they assume what you want and send it to you after charging your credit card without your knowledge.
Imagine that, a cycle. I bet no one would see that coming.
> Amazon can not afford to defend against any law suits let alone initiate any..
You mean like the lawsuit they initiated against B&N?
I don't care about the other games on it, I just want TriTowers... I've spent many drunken hours at local bars playing that. Well, that and Photo Hunt with the naked women. (hard to find differences in the photos when there's nekkid girls on the screen)
> Or, in this case, thinking in the can. ;)
> Isn't that where everyone does their best thinking anyway?
Close, in the bottle. At least I THINK I'm a genius when I'm in the bottle... Those punks at the bar didn't seem to think so though (*OUCH*, stop beating me, I'm smarter than you damnit!)
I'm (pretty) sure you're not serious, but wouldn't it be easier to build a gun that fires bullets you have instead of building explosive bullets that happen to work in the bulletless gun you own?
> I'm very disturbed I came up with that idea
:)
Now with the blaming games again
I'll have you know that I've wanted to firebomb large crowds since before Video games came around, and I still want to. Only difference is now I can do it on a computer when I get the urge, instead of going to Los Angeles. Maybe we WERE better off without games... I'd visit more peace rallies, toting AK's and grenades. MUWAHAHAHAHAA
> US cops can only dream of the day we see as few as 3,685 gun incidents in a year
Us Government can dread the day we have only have a population of 60 million... (I guess the other 200 million were killed by guns...?)
> Just don't presume that what's fine for you should be good enough for the rest of us.
After a bit of thinking, I believe this pretty much sums up the whole point. Just because you don't like chocolate doesn't mean it should be illegal -- cuz' I sure like it. Thanks.